[lace-chat] Re: not serious...

2004-11-17 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Nov 17, 2004, at 1:36, Patty Dowden wrote:
This rang bells in my head.  I had some mango tapioca at a Chinese 
restaurant and while it was appealing, it seemed to lack body or to be
watery.   I added salt and the flavor rounded out and was simply 
smashing.  American sweets have a good deal of salt,  oriental sweets 
typically do not.
Salty black beans may be just the ticket (in the right proportion).
Just a thought. . .
I'll leave it there - as a thought. Considered, and rejected :)
American sweets do, indeed, have a lot of salt... :) I look at the 
recipes - a handful of salt, a bucket of soda/baking powder to make the 
confection fairy light, and two barrels of sugar to counteract the 
bitter tastes of both... Subtle is a suspect word not only in 
politics, but in cooking as well...

Y'all kill all natural flavour with the excess of salt... Even your 
*butter* is salted; something I encountered in Poland *once*... In '81 
(I was visitng), Poland was in dire straights, and importing as much 
food as it could. Some of the help came from Holland, in the form of 
salted butter... And, just as we tossed the UNRRA-gifted processed 
cheese against the ceiling (to see how long it would stick there) when 
I was a teenager  (in the early 60ties), so did all Poles refuse to buy 
salted butter in the 80ties... Living without is preferable to an 
unpalatable compromise (had Bush asked me, before he invaded Iraq, I 
could have told him g), especially when your stomach's enzymes have 
not prepared you for a radical change...

To this day, I only use salted butter in baking in moderation (and 
*never* to grease the pan). If I use it at all, it replaces *any 
thought* of adding salt... You say that oriental sweets typically have 
no salt. Neither do Polish ones, which is why I can can bond with my 
Chinese stepdaughter-in-law (who'd learnt cooking from her father - an 
owner of several NYCity restaurants). We both sit and snigger at our 
American relatives who bring their salt-shovels to the table the way 
the French used to bring their flea-hammers before the Revolution...

Geez...
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Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Fondue set

2004-11-17 Thread Jenny Barron
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Yes the 70's have returned. In Victoria fondue sets are all the rage again.
Just shows you, everything old is new again!



not just in Australia - I bought my son a fondue set for his 18th birthday as a 
bit of a joke but he was delighted - he'd discovered cheese fondue on a skiing 
holiday and loved it. Mind you he's only used it the once!

jenny barron

 Scotland

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Re: [lace-chat] blanc mange

2004-11-17 Thread DonLynn
When my mother made tapioca pudding, we used to tell my sister it was worm 
egg pudding so she would go away and we could have her share.
Lynn Scott, Wollongong, Australia 

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Something to think about

2004-11-17 Thread DonLynn
Thanks Lousie for quoting the Flanders Field poem, as a Canadian Air Force 
brat I knew it off by heart at one time, its good to see it in the whole 
once more.

Lynn Scott, Wollongong, Australia 

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[lace-chat] quiet list

2004-11-17 Thread WaltonVS
I think lots of people are running around trying to get ready for Christmas. 
Also some of the lace group ladies tell me they are busy trying to sort next 
years programs. I am trying to get ready for Havant and the NEC. Free gifts at 
our stall for both fairs and even more at the NEC!

 KEEP LACING, TATTING, CROCHETING AND EMBROIDERING, VIVIENNE, BIGGINS

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[lace-chat] First Snowfall

2004-11-17 Thread Pene Piip
Dear gentle spiders,
Yesterday (Tuesday) we had several snow flurries  a light dusting overnight.
Then mid-morning it started snowing for several hours  now there is a good
couple of centimeters which has accumulated on all the trees  the ground.
So winter is finally here in Tartu. And I've been tatting some snowflakes.
Mary Piper's Tatting book has some interesting patterns. I adapted one
four-pointed motif I liked into six points. I found that by using mock rings
 split rings, cutting  tying off after making a round can be eliminated.
I would like to remind everyone about celebrating St Catherine's Day on
the 25th, next Wednesday. I'm hoping to make some Cattern Cookies.
Stay warm  happy,
Pene Piip,
who now lives in the white city of Tartu in the Republic of Estonia.  

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[lace-chat] Re: ia the list quiet

2004-11-17 Thread Jean Nathan
Jane wrote:

If only the powers that be in 'charge' would actually see what is
happening across this great country, if only they themselves would
experience a bit of these circumstances, perhaps we really would be a
great country.

Don't think so. It's the same here. A couple of times politicians have tried
to live on Job Seeker's Allowance (unemployment benefit) or as a single
parent with a couple of children holding down a couple of low-paid jobs
(because that's all that's available to them), and found it impossible. But
it hasn't made any difference.

When politicians are voted out of office (and sometimes while they're still
in) they get paid directorships and consultancy work through the connections
they've made, as well as a nice pension. So why should they worry about the
rest of us. Tony's got his retirement home organised in one of the best
parts of London.

I think they reckon on at least three career changes in a person's working
life now. There's no job security any more. Company pension schemes are
being withdrawn, the stock market isn't doing too well for private pensions
and people are getting into debt and not caring about it. Those who need
help can only get credit at loan shark rates, and if they get extra help
from Social Security (like to buy a cooker), they have to pay the money back
out of what welfare they get.

Help isn't targeted to those in need, so I get free loft insulation and
cavity wall insulation because of my illness, even though I can afford to
pay for it myself, but someone who needs it doesn't get it because they
don't know about it. But if people like me don't claim it, these schemes
will stop because they're underused. All I can do is spread the word to
people I know can do with help and who otherwise would know it's available.
(In the UK, look up British Gas at http://www.house.co.uk then improve your
home, energy efficiency, schemes and initiatives, Warm a Life - energy
efficiency programme for households on goverment benefits, which includes
the lowest rate DLA - that's how I qualified - and even the smallest amount
of Pension Credit. You don't have to be a British Gas customer).

The state pension isn't enough to live on, so you need some form of extra
income like interest from savings or an occupational or private pension, but
most in their 70s and 80s haven't got that. It's recognised that it costs
more to live as you get older, so when you reach 65 and 75 you can keep more
of your money before tax (that's assuming you get enough to have to begin
paying tax) and when you reach 80 you get an extra 25 pence a week (won'
even buy a loaf of bread)

DH and I are fortunate in that we both had secure jobs with good pension
schemes, and we made additional provision. So that now we're both retired,
we don't have to worry. I certainly wouldn't like to be starting out trying
decide a career path, buy a home and have a family now.

Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Re: Busy lists?

2004-11-17 Thread Scotlace
It's not so silly to send christmas cards to Muslims as I received many from 
over the years.  I've worked in university libraries all my working life and 
Muslim students like to send Christmas cards to the library staff and to their 
tutors.  One of my part-timers, married to a lecturer, used to loff for dove 
of peace cards for him to give to his post grad students.

Patricia in wales
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P.S. Isn't it interesting how, as soon as someone talks about quiet lists, 
they become busy again? :-)

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re: [lace-chat] not serious

2004-11-17 Thread Bev Walker
Hi all

 almonds and sweetness its only flavours. I was told, since, that it's
 made of soy milk and set with agar-agar

The lunch-time buffets at Chinese restaurants around here offer few
desserts, most often jello cubes and ice cream, or an
uninteresting milk pudding, usually chocolate. My favourite calls
itself 'the best Chinese buffet in town.' Besides the standard
jello and pineapple cubes, you can help yourself to a square of
cool, gelled coconut milk. It goes down well after a plateful of
healthy stir-fry.

Once every ten years I buy a honey bun from a bakery in Chinatown - they
are overly sweet,fantastically light, and totally decadent. --

bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada)
Cdn. floral bobbins
www.woodhavenbobbins.com

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[lace-chat] Foods in General

2004-11-17 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I found that most of the foods in the United States were SO sweet - loaded 
with sugar, - even Allbran, plain cornflakes, - and bread. - Try having a 
vegemite sandwich on sweet bread Yuk!
I have a sweet-tooth but the food, generally, was too sweet for my 
aste.  - well the things that should have been non-sweet, anyway - the 
savoury things.  Desserts should be sweet, but not other foods.

from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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[lace-chat] Fw: [AGENT_ORANGE_VETERANS] The Parrot

2004-11-17 Thread Lynn Weasenforth
The Parrot

A young man named John received a parrot as a gift. The parrot
had a bad attitude and an even worse vocabulary. Every word out of the
bird's mouth was rude, obnoxious, and laced with profanity. John tried
and tried to change the bird's attitude by consistently saying only
polite words, playing soft music, and anything else he could think of
to clean up the bird's vocabulary.

Finally, John was fed up, and he yelled at the parrot. The
parrot yelled back. John shook the parrot, and the parrot got angrier and
even ruder. John, in desperation, threw up his hands, grabbed the bird, and 
put him in the freezer. For a few minutes the parrot squawked  and kicked 
and screamed. Then suddenly there was total quiet. Not a peep was heard for 
over a minute.

Fearing that he'd hurt the parrot,  John quickly opened the
door to the freezer. The parrot calmly stepped out onto John's outstretched
arms and said I believe I may have offended you with my rude language
and actions. I'm sincerely remorseful for my inappropriate
transgressions and I fully intend to do everything I can to correct my rude
and unforgivable behavior.

John was stunned at the change in the bird's attitude. As he
was about to ask the parrot what had made such a dramatic change in his
behavior, when the bird continued, May I ask what the turkey did?

HAPPY  THANKSGIVING TO ALL! 

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[lace-chat] yoghurt etc.

2004-11-17 Thread rick sharon
I too have a Salton yoghurt maker and it's wonderful.  I wonder about the
directions for yours Tamara.  Mine says to process it for only 10hrs.  The
longer you leave it in the heating thingy, the more sour it gets.  could
that be the problem with your yoghurt?  I also had another kind of yoghurt
maker.  Basically it was nothing more than a very well insulated thermos.
I still have three fondue makers, haven't used any of them for years :(  The
main reason I haven't is because most fondue recipes are so high in fat.
I'd have a major guilt trip consuming that sort of thing nowadays..are there
more healthy alternatives?  Sharon on dull, cold (for us) Vancouver Island

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[lace-chat] yogurt makers

2004-11-17 Thread Janice Blair
Hey Ruth,
Can you give us your method and quantities for making yogurt in your thermos 
flask?  I left my yogurt maker with my sister when I emigrated to the States 
and I spend a fortune on yogurt over here.
Janice


Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA

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[lace-chat] Re: not serious...

2004-11-17 Thread Martha Krieg
The bean sweets I've had (Japanese, Chinese, Thai) have never been 
salty, whether the beans were red, white, or black. On the other 
hand, I hate to admit I don't much care for them either. Perhaps a 
good thing - I'm not at all tempted to overindulge in them as I am in 
some Western sweets.
I do like cornstarch-thickened chocolate pudding made with milk, and 
egg custards and flan with caramel coating, as well as 
start-from-scratch rice or bread or tapioca pudding. note: pudding in 
America is only this sort of cooked and thickened milk thing, unless 
one refers to a steamed pudding - which happens VERY rarely around 
here (I did find a tin, and make one occasionally). It *never* means 
the sweet course of a meal in general.


On Nov 17, 2004, at 1:36, Patty Dowden wrote:
This rang bells in my head.  I had some mango tapioca at a Chinese 
restaurant and while it was appealing, it seemed to lack body or to 
be
watery.   I added salt and the flavor rounded out and was simply 
smashing.  American sweets have a good deal of salt,  oriental 
sweets typically do not.
Salty black beans may be just the ticket (in the right proportion).
Just a thought. . .
I'll leave it there - as a thought. Considered, and rejected :)
American sweets do, indeed, have a lot of salt... :) I look at the 
recipes - a handful of salt, a bucket of soda/baking powder to make 
the confection fairy light, and two barrels of sugar to counteract 
the bitter tastes of both... Subtle is a suspect word not only in 
politics, but in cooking as well...

Y'all kill all natural flavour with the excess of salt... Even your 
*butter* is salted; something I encountered in Poland *once*... In 
'81 (I was visitng), Poland was in dire straights, and importing as 
much food as it could. Some of the help came from Holland, in the 
form of salted butter... And, just as we tossed the UNRRA-gifted 
processed cheese against the ceiling (to see how long it would stick 
there) when I was a teenager  (in the early 60ties), so did all 
Poles refuse to buy salted butter in the 80ties... Living without is 
preferable to an unpalatable compromise (had Bush asked me, before 
he invaded Iraq, I could have told him g), especially when your 
stomach's enzymes have not prepared you for a radical change...

To this day, I only use salted butter in baking in moderation (and 
*never* to grease the pan). If I use it at all, it replaces *any 
thought* of adding salt... You say that oriental sweets typically 
have no salt. Neither do Polish ones, which is why I can can bond 
with my Chinese stepdaughter-in-law (who'd learnt cooking from her 
father - an owner of several NYCity restaurants). We both sit and 
snigger at our American relatives who bring their salt-shovels to 
the table the way the French used to bring their flea-hammers before 
the Revolution...

Geez...
---
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Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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[lace-chat] New grandson

2004-11-17 Thread Martha Krieg
On November 2nd, my daughter Katy went to vote... and the election 
worker with complete justification said We have a woman in labor 
here! Does anyone mind if she goes to the head of the line? By 
11:37 pm, we had a Robbie.  Good thing - I think she had appendicitis 
at the time, which she mistook for food poisoning. She's still 
working on recovering from that.  We think he's cute.  I promise not 
to overwhelm the list with cute grandkid things, but those of you 
(think Ithaca) who knew he was on the way may be relieved to know 
that he made it...2.5 weeks early.
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[lace-chat] Re: desserts

2004-11-17 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Nov 17, 2004, at 7:39, Sylvie Nguyen wrote:
Having had a fantastic Vietnamese chef as my personal
teacher for over 25 years, I've learned to make a
great variety of flans and sweet dessert soups.
Please snd the ones which *worked*? Skip the sweet soups - we have them 
in Poland also, I've always hated them, and didn't change my mind as I 
matured :)

Almond pudding is one that we've not found a recipe
for, though have found a wonderful packet.
I do have a recipe for the almond pudding (Grace Zia Chu; The 
Pleasures of Chinese Cooking, almond float) but it's definitely 
bast..., er, Americanised; it uses evaporated milk and gelatin (not 
surprising, really; the book was written in '62). And, when I tried it 
despite of that, it didn't taste *at all* like the one I had at the 
restaurant, so I never made it again.

I'll see if I can hit my stepdaughter-in-law for a packet; I don't 
particularly *like* pre-packaged puddings (love Jell-o, though g), 
but will eat them on occasion, so, why not...

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Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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[lace-chat] Looking for dust ruffles in the UK

2004-11-17 Thread Avital
Dear Spiders,

At long last I'm back on-line. My home computer was gone for nearly a month,
supposedly having its hard drive replaced. When the technician finally
showed up, he brought me a new computer and confessed that the old one had
been stolen from his car the night after he picked it up. He'd been hoping
that it would 'turn up' somewhere. They must have very considerate burglars
in Beitar. Oh, well, since I was prepared for HD failure and had backups of
everything, I wasn't heartbroken to have a new computer with a larger (80G)
hard drive.

DH will be going to England for a short visit in 3 weeks. I'd like to order
dust ruffles (aka bed skirts, those flouncy things that cover the box
springs of a bed) over the Internet to be delivered to his sister in
Manchester. I'm getting nowhere with Google (it just turns up those Web
directory sites and I have no way of knowing whether I'm dealing with a real
business). I've tried MarksSpencer's site but they only sell more common
items like sheets, duvet covers, etc. Do any UK Arachnes have suggestions?

TIA,

Avital

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