[lace-chat] Re: Katrina
Sorry for posting twice on the same subject, within such a short time... On Sep 11, 2005, at 0:19, Carol Melton wrote: When calling up the National Guard, the troops have 72 hours to get their personal affairs in order BEFORE they are deployed. Sounds a bit...relaxed? to me in emergency situation, but no worse than the instructions I received as a 15yr old in the "military preparedness" class back in Poland. "In case you see a mushroom-shaped cloud, locate the the nearest cemetery, drop down low and start moving in that direction. It will help the survivors to dispose of the radioactive remains faster" OTOH... When all the relief agencies descended - helter-skelter, without co-orddination -on the tsunami-affected areas, they were as much help as hindrance precisely because they were un-coordinated. On the one hand you had tons of underwear, on the other not enough drinking water... the disaster covers an area approximately the size of Great Britain. Three states, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. The size of the affected area alone is enough to boggle one's mind (a lot of cities which had been only partially wiped out were taking in refugees from the areas totally wiped out, thus straining their resources to the utmost), esp if one is from Europe... And then you have to add in all the piddling jealousies about who lifts their leg over which territory... I read a lot of mysteries, among them Brit ones. From them, I get an idea that the local police hate it like poison when the Scotland Yard (or other national force) is called in over their heads. In US, you multiply it and multiply it and multiply it - the bigger the community, the more layers of toes which one needs to be careful about stepping on. Lexington - 4.5 thousand population plus ca 2.5 thou between the two institutions of higher learning (Washington and Lee University and Virginia Militaty Institute) has a police force, and each of the above-mentioned institutions has its own security force. Additionaly, the county (17 thousand population) has property in the city, so its not uncommon to see the sheriff's cars in the city and, certainly, the prospective sheriffs come to our door (within the city limit) come election time... Bureaucracy is necessary and it may have been created to make things easier for me and thee (you don't have to think, you don't have to make - responsible - decisions) but it tends to flourish like a weed in times of comfort, and gets bogged down in times of crisis... As we say in Poland, "this is bad, and that's no good" and I'd personally contribute to a Nobel prize for anyone who comes up with a perfect social model which *works* :) For those not familiar with who Jefferson Davis was, he was the first and only president of the Confederate States of America during the civil war era. And, reputedly, a nice guy, even to his slaves. Of course, we bombed the hell out of the national museum in Baghdad, where history of thousands of years was lost too Hard to apply a scale to calamities... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Katrina - unbelieveable
On Sep 10, 2005, at 14:55, Lynn Carpenter wrote:
I heard a radio interview early on with some man who sounded a complete
lower-level-flunky, "not my job" idiot, only to find out later he was
Michael Brown, head of FEMA!
Same "Mike" who, according to Prex, was "doing a heck of a job!
"(that's complimentary, not critical, BTW) *His* head has already
rolled and I expect, in time, there'll be others over the fiasco.
However... As much as I enjoy seeing the current administration get
their just deserts, and while I do (happily) blame them for a *lot* of
what had happened (and didn't happen) in Louisana, once I cooled off a
tad... Both my Libra-ish persona and my contrary nature baulk a bit at
such wholesale condemnation...
There had been prior/early warning of the hurricane coming; true. Why
hadn't the *city's* emergency evacuation plan been put into operation
immediately? Sure, the hardest hit were the poor who, often, couldn't
afford to evacute (either through lack of cars, or through lack of
money for gas, which had been cliimbing up throughout Augst). So, where
were the city buses and the schooolbuses? They, too, had been standing
still instead of being on the road two days *before* Katrina hit. They
got flooded where they stood and are now no good to anyone..
Why hadn't the city ask for FEMA's help immediately (federal agencies
aren't supposed to interfere, uninvited). What about the people who
refused to be evacuated, making life even more difficult for the few
rescue services which did manage to get through in the first couple of
days? I'm not surprised they're now being evacuated in handcuffs.
OTOH... Alice said:
Hurricanes will keep coming, year after year. There's no way to stop
them, or control them.
They do. But there are more of them every year, and fiercer every time.
Possibly, it's God's will/punishment, in which case we shouldn't be
doing anything at all to countermand it.
But the currenly prevalent theory is that it's due to global warming
which, in turn is due to our unbriddled cosumption of gasoline (to
simplify matters *greatly*). It may only be a theory, even less proven
than that of evolution, but, one would have thought it'd have been
worth pursuing, if only to disprove its validity ("the drowning man
holds onto a razor to save himself" as we say in Poland) But, no;
US is one of the very few countries which refused to sign the Kyoto
agreement, even though we're probably the worst offenders in that area.
So, quite possibly, we're *in some degree* responsible, if not for the
last year's tsunami and this year's Katrina themselves, then for the
viciousness with which they'd struck...
Jean wrote:
Sorry, but the same bodies have been shown still in the same place in
*live* reports a week after the hurricane.
Could you really tell? How close to the bodies was the camera? In 92
degree temperatures, I'd have expected a mass of magggots, not bodies
(much less recognisable as "the same bodies"), after a week. The
*reports* might have been live, but the most dramatic photos could have
been used over and over again; it's not an unknown procedure - cheap,
effective, and easy to splice in.
And back to Lynn:
Oh for the days when Alexis de Tocqueville commented on Americans
building
a bridge or clearing a road because they saw what needed to be done
and did
it.
Thankfully, we can still do it. Sometimes. Especially in smaller
communities where various people's needs don't contrast as much and
where what needs to be done is fairly clear to everyone. Some years
ago, Lexington collected small amounts of money for a year, then turned
out in force, and built a splendiferous playground for kids in two days
(I was there for one day, heaving boards and pounding nails. Took me a
week to recover, since it's entirely different muscles as get engaged
in such activities than those used in lacemaking ). The free clinic
runs almost entirely on volunteer time and private donations. The
Pantry (supplying food to those who need it most either on the regular
basis or due to a temporary crisis) has not run out of supplies in the
10 yrs of its existence.
Of course, what's "nice" (for lack of a better word) about those and
the examples Lynn quotes from de Tocqueville, is that they happened
*not* during the direst of emergencies, but in the course of everyday
life - something needed done and it got done
Then again, he also had a lot to say about elected politicians being
beholden to the voters, and how they would bend to the passing whim of
the
majority. And how right he was.
Almost hard to belive that someone writing so early could have had such
a clear-cut vision of what was what, no? De Toqueville was *the first*
American author we had to read at Warsaw U in the Americaln Lit course,
and I've always had a soft spot for him since (once I got over the
outrage of having to read him in English; I couldn't find any Polish
trans
[lace-chat] Katrina
To everyone on the list who has an interest in Katrina and the disaster response teams. Perhaps no one else on the list is involved with disaster and emergency preparedness nor are they a member of a local emergency response team. My husband and I have been active amateur radio operators since the late 1970's. Our other moniker is "The Hams". As hams we are trained to provide emergency communications in time of disaster whether it is weather or man made or other natural disasters. This includes tornados, earthquakes, storms of all kinds, forest fires, monsoon floods, and terrorist activities, anything where communications are needed and cannot be accomplished in the normal manner. We are also involved with our local and county government and police to provide communications if we are ever needed. I am not an expert in this field but I feel I have benefited from some limited experience and some training. It is very apparent to me that most people do not understand the first thing about disaster and emergency response. You seem to believe that an emergency happens and the federal government has troops on the scene inside the first hour. Not so. If the National Guard from Arizona was called up the instant Katrina happened, they would not have arrived in New Orleans, Louisiana for a minimum of 4 days. When calling up the National Guard, the troops have 72 hours to get their personal affairs in order BEFORE they are deployed. Right there is 3 full days. I looked on Yahoo maps to figure out the milage and we live 1,552 miles from Bourbon Street, New Orleans, La. That would be 2,497.7 kilometers for those of you who are more familiar with that measurement. It takes 23 hours and 52 minutes to drive there from here. That is no stops for gas fill ups, potty breaks, food, and etc. The troops that came from northern Illinois - Chicago area - had over 900 miles to travel to get to New Orleans. Can you fly the troops there? Did you plan on landing in New Orleans? If not, where? So, they have to be landed someplace else, hundreds of miles away. Keeping in mind how far north of the gulf coast was affected. How then is the transportation into the disaster area and specifically to New Orleans going to work? Vehicles from New Orleans are not going to be available, they are under water so they have to come from "someplace" else. Where? We all keep talking about New Orleans as if that is the only place affected. In point of fact, the disaster covers an area approximately the size of Great Britain. Three states, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. New Orleans is only one very small place compared to the total. When the people are taken care of we can turn to the other things that were destroyed in this disaster. Things like our links to history. I have heard that the Jefferson Davis presidential library in Biloxi, Mississippi lost all of his papers. Not just wet, but gone. The building is standing though. I don't know if this is a true fact, but it is what I have heard. For those not familiar with who Jefferson Davis was, he was the first and only president of the Confederate States of America during the civil war era. That is only one item. There was so much history and culture in the area affected. It is indeed a sad loss beyond the loss of human life and suffering. Below is a link that may be of interest to those who wonder why things went the way they did in New Orleans. The other side of the story if you will. In the 7th paragraph is a link to the city of New Orleans own emergency response plan. It makes for very interesting reading. If you are not involved in your local emergency response team, consider getting involved. Because of the training you would receive as a volunteer, perhaps your own life would be saved because you took the step to be available to help someone else. http://www.catholicexchange.com/vm/index.asp?vm_id=1&art_id=29978 My best regards to all - "73's" in ham jargon. Carol Melton, AK7N Litchfield Park, Arizona, USA To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] language evolution/disappearing
There was an article in an Australian newspaper on Saturday (The Age in Melbourne, Good Weekend supplement) discussing disappearing Aboriginal languages. Thought the following may be of interest in light of the recent linguistics discussion: "A language expires on average every two years in Australia, and every fortnight worldwide. Of the 250-odd Aboriginal languages (comprising up to 700 dialects) spoken at the time of colonisation, each as different from the other as English and Dutch, some 55 have already gone, and the rate of extinction has never been higher." Jen in Melbourne (ps - Yvonne, how about one of my personal favourites "he's got a head like a half-sucked Twistie" for your list?) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fw: Finished list
Hi all this is a list I made for DD! who has been asked for some Aussie sayings whilst staying in Virginia. Australian Slang Talk 101. How to be a True Blue, Dinky Di Aussie. What do you think this is, Bush Week? - (you want me to do it now? You want me to do what? You're asking a lot of me!) -Head like a mongolian trotting duck. This one is my favourite. No-one knows where it came from, or what a mongloian trotting duck is, but you say it when you think someone is really ugly. 'Hasn't he got a head like a mongloian trotting duck!!!' -This is another favourite -As silly as a wet hen. I've seen wet hens, and they are pretty silly indeed. -You want to say everything will be fine, "she'll be right, mate!" Rhyming Slang -Tell a porkie pie (lie) -On the dog and bone (phone) -A bag of Fruit (suit) -To have a Captain Cook (a look. This is the guy who discovered Australia for the British.) -Dead Horse (sauce) -A Joe Blake (snake) -Billy Lids (kids) -to play the goanna ( rhyming slang for piano) Name Calling -A Wally - When someone is being stupid or Akward. "Your such a wally!" -Look like a stunned mullet ( to appear dazed) -Lights are on but no-one is home ( vacant in the head) -Your an odd bod ( unusual) -You're dumber than a house brick -He fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down -He's slow as a wet week of sundays ( not very clever) -Has Crows in the top paddock ( empty head) -Get on ya high horse ( to adopt a superior attitude) -Get on ya bike ( go away) -Got crows in the top paddock -He's a sausage short of a barbie ( to be intellectually inferior) -he's a sandwich short of a picnic ( to be intellectually inferior) -He jumped in the gene pool when the life guard wasn't looking ( to be intellectually inferior) -He's got a face like a robbers dog (ugly, robbers generally are depicted as having very ugly bull terrior type dogs) -He couldn't hit the side of a barn from 20 feet. ( poor sportsman, can't aim at anything)) -Butter wouldn't melt in her mouth. (just way too nice) -He has a snowball's chance in hell ( no chance at all) -On the other side of the black stump (way out in the middle of no where) -It's as rare as hen's teeth n( uncommom) -Rough as guts ( thrown together haphazardly) -The pudding club, bun in the oven( Pregnant) -Run's on the smell of an oily rag. ( cheap to run, like it runs on that little fuel) -Your blood's worth bottling ( you're a great person) -I'd kill for a drink ( I'm very thirsty) -Go for your life ( do what you like and enjoy it) -As crooked as a dog's hind leg (suspect, wrong, a person who tells lies or swindles people) -A Molly Duker (left hander) -Coppers (police) -Gum Boots. (please let me know if you don't know what these are...) -You little beauty! ( fantastic) -What do you do for a crust ( how do you earn your living?) -I'm feeling a bit snakey (cranky) ( angry) -It's as clear as mud ( not obvious to me) -a fag (cigarette) -She'll be apples (it'll be fine) -A load of old cobblers ( a big lie) -a bunch of odds and sods ( a few bits and pieces) -As fit as a Mallee bull ( healthy) -More front than Myers (Myers is a BIG department store, this means very bold and brash ) -As game as Ned Kelly (our most famous bush ranger again means very bold and brash) -You have two chances, Buckley's and none (when you have buckley's chance of something you have no chance whatsoever.) -to yank someones chain ( to fool some one) -to pull the wool over their eyes ( again to fool some one) -to be a Galah (be stupid, thick headed) -to feel like a dog's breakfast ( feel ill) -to play the fool ( to be silly) -to have a gander (is to have a look, a gander has a really long neck) -to mosey on over ( to go at a slow pace) -to throw out the baby with the bathwater (don't get rid of the good with the bad) -to get your knickers in a knot ( to get upset) -to spit the dummy ( have a temper tantrum) -to be within cooee (to be nearby) -to grasp at straws ( to try something despite little chance of success) -to give someone a bell (call on the phone) -to have a blue (a fight) -to conk out (run out of energy, stop going) -to bludge (not do any work) -to do your block (get really angry) -to stick your beak in (butt into something your not supposed to, like someones argument) -to have a sticky beak (is to have a look at something) -to have a quick squiz ( a quick look, a squizzy is a look at something) -to be a slow coach -to be crook (sick) -to be cockeyed (crooked) -to drive the porcelain bus ( to vomit or throw up because you hold the sides of the toilet bowl like a bus driver holds the steering wheel) -to come the raw prawn ( to try to fool some one, you usually say, 'Don't come the raw prawn with me.') -to be cut up (
[lace-chat] Katrina - unbelieveable
David - we felt the same as you. In fact DH was so disgusted, and upset that he phoned the TV station and complained about that footage. He felt they had no respect for human life. After all the dead bodies were someone's family a week ago. One really wonders about the organizers of the rescue. They don't seem to have a clue what to do. I think back to Cyclone Tracey, which flattened Darwin - Yes, I know there was not water inundation, but it was Xmas morning, and within hours there were planes there from all the airlines, evacuating people out, as they had no homes or safe places to go. And Darwin is so far from any other city, but people were taken out of there within hours, not days or weeks, Public Holiday (Christmas) or not. Regards from Liz in Melbourne,Oz. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace-chat] Scary site - National Drivers' license
Sue, Did you try to look at your own or another license? I did, because I thought that you had, and I wanted mine removed. It is a prank. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Babbs > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 3:23 PM > To: lace-chat@arachne.com > Subject: [lace-chat] Scary site - National Drivers' license > > > I was pretty surprised to discover there is such a thing > available. You can > click on a box > at the end to have yours removed, but I'm surprised such info > should be > accessible on the internet to start off with > > http://www.license.shorturl.com/ > > > Sue > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, > write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Katrina - unbelievable
Hi All -- In a message dated 9/10/2005 1:12:01 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the first few days, when the National Guard arrived, one of their officers said that there were parts of the city they were afraid to go because of armed looters. I was shocked last weekend to see a live report from New Orleans, right after things were finally being taken in hand by a massive influx of military forcves, when the reporter was standing on a freeway overpass, and pointed out a single light burning in the night in the city below. I thought they were probably working on restoring power, or the pumps or something, but no. He said they were busy building -- a jail! This was after the reports had been they were intending to totally evacuate the city. What's up with that? The authorities were stating yesterday that people were not being forcibly removed from the city in handcuffs, but the live reports showed a different story. The rest of the world is quite appalled at the way this disaster has been handled by what is supposed to be the most powerful nation in the world - the tsunami victims were helped faster and treated more humanely than those I keep waiting for someone to bring up that old story, "The Emporer Has No Clothes." Regards, Ricky To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Scary site - National Drivers' license
I was pretty surprised to discover there is such a thing available. You can click on a box at the end to have yours removed, but I'm surprised such info should be accessible on the internet to start off with http://www.license.shorturl.com/ Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Katrina - unbelieveable
Put me on that list of people who find the happenings in Louisiana unbelievable. I heard a radio interview early on with some man who sounded a complete lower-level-flunky, "not my job" idiot, only to find out later he was Michael Brown, head of FEMA! Oh for the days when Alexis de Tocqueville commented on Americans building a bridge or clearing a road because they saw what needed to be done and did it. Then again, he also had a lot to say about elected politicians being beholden to the voters, and how they would bend to the passing whim of the majority. And how right he was. Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Katrina - unbelievable
Alice wrote: Sorry, but the same bodies have been shown still in the same place in *live* reports a week after the hurricane. If reports aren't not live, you can approximate, by the state of the bodies and the level of the flood water in specific areas of New Orleans, when the reports were recorded. David said: This was shown in the UK (and probably other countries around the world) as well as Australia) in the last couple of days and was in response to a question about why bodies weren't being removed because the water was now so toxic that there had been several deaths from bacterial infections. Obviously this was not in the first few days, but in the past few. In the first few days, when the National Guard arrived, one of their officers said that there were parts of the city they were afraid to go because of armed looters. The authorities were stating yesterday that people were not being forcibly removed from the city in handcuffs, but the live reports showed a different story. The rest of the world is quite appalled at the way this disaster has been handled by what is supposed to be the most powerful nation in the world - the tsunami victims were helped faster and treated more humanely than those in New Orleans. I'll share the flames as well. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] walking, was Re: Tesco
Tamara P Duvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Sep 9, 2005, at 3:27, Lynne Cumming wrote: > >> Luckily we live 10 mins walk away from our nearest Tesco so only the >> major >> shop has to be done by car > >Oooh, how I laughed at that one... :) I do recognise the attitude from >Europe but, in US, a 10 minute walk (one way, I presume) is 7 minutes >too long Why, do you think, we're locked into the vicious circle of >"whale watching"? When I lived in "the city", I used to walk 10 minutes to the library, with a lovely bakery right across the street. It was called "The American Bakery", and in true melting-pot tradition, was in a neighborhood that had long been Polish, was turning Hispanic, and was owned and run by an Indian couple who had bought it, recipes and all, when the original Polish owners retired. (That's India-Indian, not Native American, for the PC folk.) Lovely cream horns they sold there. Almost always with a police car parked nearby for their coffee break. We used to say, "If we really wanted more police protection, we would open a bakery and sell good donuts." If I walked for 10 minutes from my house today out in rural Michigan, I would be by an asparagus field if I went west, soybeans & corn if I walked east, asparagus and potatoes north, or cucumbers (this year) south. Not to mention I'd start walking on a secondary highway used by double-bottom gravel trucks going about 70 mph on a 55 mph road. So many places here, not only does the culture lean against walking, it's downright dangerous. I usually walk on the looping path we put that goes to the back of our 10-acre lot. It's a lot safer than the road, a lot prettier, and I can usually pick wild strawberries, blackberries, raspberries, or Concord grapes. Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Language Evolution
Sorry to be behind ... What continues to tickle my fancy is that in selling a house, for example, a new furnace is newer than a "newer furnace". Susan Webster To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Katrina - unbelieveable
At 08:25 AM 9/9/2005, you wrote: . He asked each of them if they had any intention of removing the bodies, but no, it was not part of their job statement! We've probably had more coverage than went out around the world, but no one hears everything, or even all the facts behind an action. Admittedly, there were gross errors in action at the federal level, and probably state and local. The quoted statement does not give a time line. During the first days, the edict went out from the people in charge to help the survivors **first** and deal with the bodies later. "Not part of their job statement" may not have been the best expression of their direct orders --at that time!. It is a disaster that will take years to recover from. It will permanently affect many lives. Hopefully, people will learn from it, and be better prepared when the next hurricane comes. Hurricanes will keep coming, year after year. There's no way to stop them, or control them. People need to respect that, and have plans in effect to deal with them -- or other types of disasters. Let's hope the hindsight of this disaster becomes the foresight for future ones. Meanwhile, ordinary people are doing what they can. People around here who have relatives in the affected area are bringing them here, and setting them up with new homes, etc. Oregon had a shelter set up to take 1000 people, but the Red Cross couldn't find people willing to go this far from their home state. They'd rather stay in the mob in Houston. We had to close the shelter, unused. Idaho did take in 70 hospital patients, I heard. However, we are sending money in droves through the established relief agencies to aid the people there. We're too far away to send 'stuff' because of the cost, and it would bog down the shipping services. And the Northwest Medical Teams are there, working. As you all know, there's usually more happening that meets the eye. Especially when broadcast by the media. They'll focus on one aspect, and many other things are ignored. Please take reports with a grain of salt, and know there's another side to the story. The latest report is that they think there will be fewer deaths than first predicted. We'll have to wait to hear, after the cadaver dogs have located all the bodies. Alice in Oregon To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Disappearing words
We still see some of them here. Usually on pickup trucks and larger trucks, rarely on cars. Lorri Do you remember those Insect Deflectors? Another passing fad, I think. You fixed it at the front of your car's bonnet (UK; hood? US). It was like two smallish sheets of rigid plastic joined together down their front edges, and if a fly came at you as you drove (or vice versa ) it would be deflected away from your windscreen. Haven't seen one for many years - didn't have a car back then. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Katrina - unbelieveable
le 10/09/05 17:27, BrambleLane à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > > Margaret in PA, ducking the flames that are sure to arise... lol ... margaret .. we'll share them . dominique from Paris, France . To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Katrina - unbelieveable
le 9/09/05 17:25, David Collyer à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > Dear Friends, > He asked each of them if they had any intention of removing the bodies, but > no, it was not part of their job statement! Then finally some > paramedics came along and he knew the bodies would be removed. But no - > no-one had told them to do it either. They simply got out their digital > cameras and started taking photos of half submerged houses! > > Next thing people will be wondering why on earth all that water is becoming > so polluted!! > > I'm sorry if I've offended anyone, certainly not me .. i've been wondering for days why on earth they allowed all those dead human bodies to decay in the water as if they were animals . and learning that people dont even think of it because it's not written on their job statement tells a lot about the respect they have for humanity ... i'm still wondering how a country that's supposed to be the world leader can neglect both the living and the dead after a natural disaster that was announced . and i can't understand either how you can send people to a sports stadium and expect them to live on thin air for several days .. I know a lot of people are helping throughout the country and i'm glad of it but honestly , town, state and federal government should resign and bend their heads in shame dominique from paris, france. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace-chat] Katrina - unbelieveable
David in Ballarat writes: I'm sorry if I've offended anyone, but people here on talk-back radio are beginning to say things like, "when the USA finds itself totally bankrupt after another 5 years in Iraq, then they will only be the 3rd world country they are fast becoming!" and "from what we see here, there is no difference at all between Vietnam and Iraq, and they will lose this one too". Why should anyone be so surprised? Look at how we treat our elders. Margaret in PA, ducking the flames that are sure to arise... Margaret Holsinger On The Wing Mailing Services Presorting & List Hygiene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Katrina - unbelieveable
Dear Friends, I have been following closely the lack of response to those in need of help in New Orleans. But tonight what I saw on TV confirmed my worst beliefs!! There was an Australian journalist standing beside a number of decaying bodies in the street as soldiers, police and rescue workers walked on by. He asked each of them if they had any intention of removing the bodies, but no, it was not part of their job statement! Then finally some paramedics came along and he knew the bodies would be removed. But no - no-one had told them to do it either. They simply got out their digital cameras and started taking photos of half submerged houses! Next thing people will be wondering why on earth all that water is becoming so polluted!! I'm sorry if I've offended anyone, but people here on talk-back radio are beginning to say things like, "when the USA finds itself totally bankrupt after another 5 years in Iraq, then they will only be the 3rd world country they are fast becoming!" and "from what we see here, there is no difference at all between Vietnam and Iraq, and they will lose this one too". I watched "Platoon" again yesterday - perhaps I shouldn't have done so - it always stirs me up. David in Ballarat -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.19/94 - Release Date: 9/09/05 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
