[lace-chat] Queen's dress

2005-12-26 Thread Jean Nathan

Avital wrote:



Predictable turquoise. That seems to be her favourite at the moment. She 
wore that colour in the portrait painted for her 80th birthday by Rolf 
Harris.


Part of it can be seen at:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10360934

and the face detail at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4541388.stm

Jean in Poole, Dorset UK 


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[lace-chat] Taking the mickey

2005-12-26 Thread Jean Nathan
"Taking the mickey" is done to someone's face as Tamara said, and sometimes 
the "victim" isn't sure whether or not what's being said to them is a 
compliment or "taking the mickey". The most recent example I can think would 
be someone saying to Evanda Holyfield that he danced a very good jive in 
"Dancing with the Stars" in the US and "Strictly Come Dancing" in the UK. 
Not something I'd take a chance on doing if he realised that you were taking 
the mickey!


Taking the mickey can have quite serious consequences if the victim thinks 
they're being paid a compliment rather than having fun poked at them and 
acts on the compliment.


It's not usually intended to be malicious, and the victim usually joins in 
the joke - we should all be able to see the funny side of things we do.


Found this on the web:

<<: Who or what was Mickey, and why do we take him?

: [Obviously there are also cruder versions of this phrase.]

Here's what it says in "The Dictionary of Contemporary Slang" by Tony Thorne 
(Pantheon Books):


"take the mick/mickey/michael -- vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun 
at. These expressions are milder versions of 'take the piss.' Unbeknownst to 
most users, they employ rhyming slang: Mickey is short for a mythical 
'Mickey Bliss,' providing the rhyme for 'piss.' 'Michael' is a humorous 
variant. The phrases, like their more vulgar counterpart, have been in use 
since the 1940s."


"take the piss (out of someone) vb. British -- to mock, deride, poke fun 
(at). This vulgarism has been in widespread use since the late 1940s. The 
original idea evoked by the expression was that of deflating someone, 
recalling the description of a self-important blusterer as 'all piss and 
wind.'" >>


Jean in Poole, Dorset UK

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Re: [lace-chat] Queen's dress

2005-12-26 Thread spindexr
Wearing the same colour for a few decades must save a lot of shopping and 
dressing time. Not to mention that your kids would always know what to get you 
for your birthday.

I enjoyed the article about her portrait. I'm not sure *I* would have the 
courage to say 'I was afraid she'd look like a Norwich butcher,' even if I'd 
already been paid!

Avital

> Predictable turquoise. That seems to be her favourite at the 
> moment. She 
> wore that colour in the portrait painted for her 80th birthday by 
> Rolf 
> Harris.
> 
> Part of it can be seen at:
> 
> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10360934
> 
> and the face detail at:
> 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4541388.stm
> 
> Jean in Poole, Dorset UK 

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Re: [lace-chat] Queen's dress

2005-12-26 Thread Brenda Paternoster
The turquoise dress she wore for the Christmas Day message was much 
more frumpy looking than the one in Rolf's portrait.
There's currently a picture from teh Christmas day broadcast and a link 
to watch/listen to the whole message at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4558418.stm

Brenda

On 26 Dec 2005, at 08:29, Jean Nathan wrote:


Avital wrote:



Predictable turquoise. That seems to be her favourite at the moment. 
She wore that colour in the portrait painted for her 80th birthday by 
Rolf Harris.


Part of it can be seen at:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10360934

and the face detail at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4541388.stm

Jean in Poole, Dorset UK
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Brenda
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Re: [lace-chat] Queen's dress

2005-12-26 Thread spindexr
Quite the hat on Camilla! I didn't realise they were wearing them below the 
eyebrows this year. ;-)

I'll watch when I get home. Our network at work blocks video and streaming 
because of the high bandwidth usage. Thanks. It takes me back to Christmas at 
Granny's, where we had to drop everything and gather around the TV when the 
queen appeared.

Avital

> The turquoise dress she wore for the Christmas Day message was 
> much 
> more frumpy looking than the one in Rolf's portrait.
> There's currently a picture from teh Christmas day broadcast and a 
> link 
> to watch/listen to the whole message at:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4558418.stm
> 
> Brenda
>

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[lace-chat] Taking the mickey

2005-12-26 Thread spindexr
I'm moving this over to chat.

Jenny Barron wrote:
> you are welcome to take the mickey any time you like Avital, I 
> have 2 boys at home at the moment whose main pastime is just that 

They must have taught my son.  He's 12. I think it comes with the age.

> sport - sigh. Seriously a lovely island to visit would be Lindisfarne
>  http://www.lindisfarne.org.uk/
>  that is off the north east coast of England. No lace though.

Gorgeous! I like old monasteries and churches, too. I'd love to visit someday.

Avital

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Re: [lace-chat] Taking the mickey

2005-12-26 Thread Jenny Barron
mine are 17 and 19 and the favouite sport at the moment is patting me on the 
head, (I'm 5'5", they are both over 6') and commenting unfavouribly on my dwarf 
like size - it is actually very funny so I don't really mind. Mind you at 12 
you've got quite a lot of mickey taking to come - look on the bright side - he 
is talking to you and you understand what he is saying
  jenny barron

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  I'm moving this over to chat.

Jenny Barron wrote:
> you are welcome to take the mickey any time you like Avital, I 
> have 2 boys at home at the moment whose main pastime is just that 

They must have taught my son. He's 12. I think it comes with the age.

> sport - sigh. Seriously a lovely island to visit would be Lindisfarne
> http://www.lindisfarne.org.uk/
> that is off the north east coast of England. No lace though.

Gorgeous! I like old monasteries and churches, too. I'd love to visit someday.

Avital

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[lace-chat] Message for Jeri

2005-12-26 Thread Malvary J Cole
Jeri - I tried to send you a reply to yesterday's messages this morning, but
it has been returned twice.

Malvary

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[lace-chat] I'm wrong!

2005-12-26 Thread CLIVE Rice
Forgive me!! I was a bit out of my clear-thinking element when I wrote the 
message below yesterday.  We couldn't decide if red or white wine would go 
better with Christmas dinner, and since no one under 18 was present, we had 
both.  And, the egg nog-well-fortified-with-bourbon certainly did not add to 
my clear thinking!
"Blessing someone's heart" certainly *does not* conform to "Taking the 
Mickey" out of anyone. Taking the wind out of their sails *would* however.


Sorry for the boozey answer,
Betty Ann in Roanoke Virginia USA

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Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Expressions


Taking the Mickey out of anyone is sort of "Bless Her/His Heart"  Say 
anything you want as long as you bless hearts.  Example, "Bless her heart, 
she's so fat she can't fit in the church pew!"  or "Her green bean 
casserole tastes like it was made last week, bless her heart." Or, "Lord 
only knows, bless her heart, she can't carry a tune in a gallon bucket!" 
Since FH Clive is English, I am familiar with taking the mickey out of 
someone, so blessing hearts is a comparable expression in the South - 
maybe not North of the Potomac...


Merry Christmas to All
Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA



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Re: [lace-chat] I'm wrong!

2005-12-26 Thread Malvary J Cole
To me - taking the wind out of someone's sails is not the same as taking the 
Mickey.


To take the wind out of someone's sails would be like you are having an 
argument with someone and they expect you throw a punch, but you turn round 
and walk away - or turn to them and give them a big hug.  Something that 
they really don't expect given the situation at the time.


Both expressions are explained on the page below.

http://users.tinyonline.co.uk/gswithenbank/sayingst.htm

While both of them say "to deflate", I wouldn't use them interchangeably.

Malvary in Ottawa where it has been snowing a little, supposed to rain later


- Original Message - 
From: "CLIVE Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Chat" 
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 11:05 AM
Subject: [lace-chat] I'm wrong!


Forgive me!! I was a bit out of my clear-thinking element when I wrote the 
message below yesterday.  We couldn't decide if red or white wine would go 
better with Christmas dinner, and since no one under 18 was present, we 
had both.  And, the egg nog-well-fortified-with-bourbon certainly did not 
add to my clear thinking!
"Blessing someone's heart" certainly *does not* conform to "Taking the 
Mickey" out of anyone. Taking the wind out of their sails *would* however.


Sorry for the boozey answer,
Betty Ann in Roanoke Virginia USA

- Original Message - 
From: "CLIVE Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Chat" 
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Expressions


Taking the Mickey out of anyone is sort of "Bless Her/His Heart"  Say 
anything you want as long as you bless hearts.  Example, "Bless her 
heart, she's so fat she can't fit in the church pew!"  or "Her green bean 
casserole tastes like it was made last week, bless her heart." Or, "Lord 
only knows, bless her heart, she can't carry a tune in a gallon bucket!" 
Since FH Clive is English, I am familiar with taking the mickey out of 
someone, so blessing hearts is a comparable expression in the South - 
maybe not North of the Potomac...


Merry Christmas to All
Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA



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[lace-chat] Boxing Day Poem

2005-12-26 Thread Whitham

Hi Alice and all,

That's a great poem, and what a great way to spend Boxing Day!!!

Did you get any lace made, or was there too much socializing and eating ;o)

Thanks for sharing,

Irene Whitham

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Re: [lace-chat] I'm wrong!

2005-12-26 Thread CLIVE Rice

Malvery,
I thought the original question asked for the opinion of a USA woman.  Last 
time I looked, Ottawa was in Canada (^_^) Your intrepretation of taking the 
wind out may be Canadian, but it is not USA.  I stand by my sober 
interpretation of "taking the Mickey"


Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA

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Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] I'm wrong!


To me - taking the wind out of someone's sails is not the same as taking 
the Mickey.


To take the wind out of someone's sails would be like you are having an 
argument with someone and they expect you throw a punch, but you turn 
round and walk away - or turn to them and give them a big hug.  Something 
that they really don't expect given the situation at the time.


Both expressions are explained on the page below.

http://users.tinyonline.co.uk/gswithenbank/sayingst.htm

While both of them say "to deflate", I wouldn't use them interchangeably.

Malvary in Ottawa where it has been snowing a little, supposed to rain 
later




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RE: [lace-chat] I'm wrong!

2005-12-26 Thread Avital
LOL! Never mind. You had a good excuse if you were going through red and white
wine and bourbon in the same meal. It sounds as though you had a merry time!

Avital

> Forgive me!! I was a bit out of my clear-thinking element when I wrote the
> message below yesterday.  We couldn't decide if red or white wine would go
> better with Christmas dinner, and since no one under 18 was present, we had
> both.  And, the egg nog-well-fortified-with-bourbon certainly did not add to
> my clear thinking!
> "Blessing someone's heart" certainly *does not* conform to "Taking the
> Mickey" out of anyone. Taking the wind out of their sails *would* however.
>
> Sorry for the boozey answer,
> Betty Ann in Roanoke Virginia USA
>

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