[lace-chat] Cell phone numbers and do not call registry

2007-09-05 Thread Dora Smith
I got this from my mother in law - took two minutes to register both my 
phones (the land line as well); you can also register at 
http://www.donotcall.gov   - It's a U.S. government program.


REMINDER12 days from today, all cell phone numbers are being released 
to

telemarketing companies and you will start to receive sale calls.

YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS

To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone:
888-382-1222.

It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only take a minute of your
time.
It blocks your number for five (5) years.
You must call from the cell phone number you want to have blocked.
You cannot call from a different phone number.

HELP OTHERS BY PASSING THIS ON TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS.
It takes abo ut 20 seconds.





Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
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Re: [lace-chat] Alert -- Re Cell phone numbers and do not call registry

2007-09-05 Thread Alice Howell
I just looked up the webpage, and this is what is says
right at the top of the page:

"Did you get an email claiming that your cell phone is
about to be assaulted by telemarketing calls because
of a new cell phone number database? Those claims are
not true. In fact, federal law prohibits telemarketers
from using automated dialers to call cell phones. You
may place your personal cell phone number on the
National Do Not Call Registry, but there is generally
no reason to do so. For more information, see the
FTC's press release "The Truth about Cell Phones and
the Do Not Call Registry". 

Alice in Oregon


--- Dora Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I got this from my mother in law - took two minutes
> to register both my 
> phones (the land line as well); you can also
> register at 
> http://www.donotcall.gov   - It's a U.S. government
> program.
> 
> > REMINDER12 days from today, all cell phone
> numbers are being released 
> > to
> > telemarketing companies and you will start to
> receive sale calls.
> >
> > YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS
> >
> > To prevent this, call the following number from
> your cell phone:
> > 888-382-1222.
> >
> > It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only
> take a minute of your
> > time.
> > It blocks your number for five (5) years.
> > You must call from the cell phone number you want
> to have blocked.
> > You cannot call from a different phone number.
> >
> > HELP OTHERS BY PASSING THIS ON TO ALL YOUR
> FRIENDS.
> > It takes abo ut 20 seconds.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Yours,
> Dora Smith
> Austin, TX
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
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[lace-chat] Re: Cell phone numbers and do not call registry

2007-09-05 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Sep 5, 2007, at 8:29, Dora Smith wrote:

I got this from my mother in law - took two minutes to register both 
my phones (the land line as well); you can also register at 
http://www.donotcall.gov   - It's a U.S. government program.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp

The cell-phone providers *do not* and *will not* release phone numbers 
to telemarketers. Only to spook organisations (NSA, FBI, CIA etc), for 
entirely different purposes (listening in though they don't want you to 
know that) and that doesn't come out of your pocket.


I suspect that the phone number given to call might not lead to the 
official do-not call registry (which does exist for *landlines*, even 
though it's only half-efficient) but to some place which collects the 
cell-phone numbers (otherwise hard to find, since they're not in any 
phonebook) in order to sell them to telemarketers.


This rumour has been going on for over a year now.
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RE: [lace-chat] Re: Cell phone numbers and do not call registry

2007-09-05 Thread Carolyn Hastings
I found out one thing the hard way: if you are already a customer, a company
can phone you (legally) for mass marketing purposes.  Found that out when
Verizon kept on calling me dispite my repeated demands that I be placed on
their "do not call" list, and I've been on the federal "do not call" list
since its inception.  I was getting up to four calls a day -- a sure way to
turn off a customer.  Solution: I'm switching to the local cable company for
telephone service. Now I won't be a Verizon customer, and I hope they will
have to stop the phone solicitations.

Carolyn

Carolyn Hastings
in Stow, MA USA

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> Subject: [lace-chat] Re: Cell phone numbers and do not call registry
> 
> On Sep 5, 2007, at 8:29, Dora Smith wrote:
> 
> > I got this from my mother in law - took two minutes to register both
> > my phones (the land line as well); you can also register at
> > http://www.donotcall.gov   - It's a U.S. government program.
> 
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp
> 
> The cell-phone providers *do not* and *will not* release phone numbers
> to telemarketers. Only to spook organisations (NSA, FBI, CIA etc), for
> entirely different purposes (listening in though they don't want you to
> know that) and that doesn't come out of your pocket.
> 
> I suspect that the phone number given to call might not lead to the
> official do-not call registry (which does exist for *landlines*, even
> though it's only half-efficient) but to some place which collects the
> cell-phone numbers (otherwise hard to find, since they're not in any
> phonebook) in order to sell them to telemarketers.
> 
> This rumour has been going on for over a year now.
> --
> Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
> Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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Re: [lace-chat] How to replace corningware dishes

2007-09-05 Thread Dora Smith

Alice;  I purchased the e-bay plates you let me know about.

Then I went back to order the set you sent me to below, but it won't let me 
put them in the shopping cart.  I found the corresponding listing on Amazon, 
and it says they're out of it and don't know when they'll have it in stock. 
I searched for the set in google and apparently this was something that 
store exclusively carried through Amazon.


Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
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To: "Dora Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "chat" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] How to replace corningware dishes



Try this webpage  -- it this it?
http://www.tictap.com/s/B000FE0AEW-CorningWare-Just-White-Amazoncom-Exclusive-24Piece-Set-Service-for-6

I searched Corningware Plates, and it came up with one
that said Corningware Just White plates -- square with
rounded corners.

If this is it, you have a style name.
Alice



--- Dora Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I can't find it on the corningware web page.

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
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To: "Dora Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "chat"

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] How to replace corningware
dishes


> --- Dora Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I need to replace some dinnerware; I've looked
>> everywhere and can't find this. 
>> white, square with rounded corners, salad plates
are
> maybe eight inches across.
>
> Check with the corningware webpage to get the
style
> name, then search eBay for it.  I replaced an
older
> style of dishes for my church through eBay when a
> bunch of plates were broken.
>
> Alice in Oregon -- tired after a long day at state
fair
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Cell phone numbers and do not call registry

2007-09-05 Thread Dora Smith

I read it - and I'm totally confused.

What's that do-not-call registry, bogus?   It sure accepted phone numbers, 
and it it's a scam, it 's certainly well done.


What's the point of registering phone numbers if noone is going to call us? 
Why would they bother to have a registry if no need for it?


Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
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From: "Tamara P Duvall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Chat Arachne" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:51 PM
Subject: [lace-chat] Re: Cell phone numbers and do not call registry



On Sep 5, 2007, at 8:29, Dora Smith wrote:

I got this from my mother in law - took two minutes to register both my 
phones (the land line as well); you can also register at 
http://www.donotcall.gov   - It's a U.S. government program.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp

The cell-phone providers *do not* and *will not* release phone numbers to 
telemarketers. Only to spook organisations (NSA, FBI, CIA etc), for 
entirely different purposes (listening in though they don't want you to 
know that) and that doesn't come out of your pocket.


I suspect that the phone number given to call might not lead to the 
official do-not call registry (which does exist for *landlines*, even 
though it's only half-efficient) but to some place which collects the 
cell-phone numbers (otherwise hard to find, since they're not in any 
phonebook) in order to sell them to telemarketers.


This rumour has been going on for over a year now.
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Cell phone numbers and do not call registry

2007-09-05 Thread Dora Smith

Carolyn:

You can always tell anyone in writing to never contact you again, and if 
they do, file a complaint.


I've worked in a call center.   I've also worked for survey research firms. 
The problem could be that you told the wrong person - ie, told a 
subcontractor like a telemarketing company or a survey research company to 
tell the company to never call you again - and the person you spoke to had 
no means to do that.


You have to write to the company directly, and tell them never to call you 
again - if that is how you feel.   What if you have to call them about a 
problem with the product you bought?


Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
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To: "'Tamara P Duvall'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chat Arachne'" 


Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 6:08 PM
Subject: RE: [lace-chat] Re: Cell phone numbers and do not call registry


I found out one thing the hard way: if you are already a customer, a 
company

can phone you (legally) for mass marketing purposes.  Found that out when
Verizon kept on calling me dispite my repeated demands that I be placed on
their "do not call" list, and I've been on the federal "do not call" list
since its inception.  I was getting up to four calls a day -- a sure way 
to
turn off a customer.  Solution: I'm switching to the local cable company 
for

telephone service. Now I won't be a Verizon customer, and I hope they will
have to stop the phone solicitations.

Carolyn

Carolyn Hastings
in Stow, MA USA


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To: Chat Arachne
Subject: [lace-chat] Re: Cell phone numbers and do not call registry

On Sep 5, 2007, at 8:29, Dora Smith wrote:

> I got this from my mother in law - took two minutes to register both
> my phones (the land line as well); you can also register at
> http://www.donotcall.gov   - It's a U.S. government program.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp

The cell-phone providers *do not* and *will not* release phone numbers
to telemarketers. Only to spook organisations (NSA, FBI, CIA etc), for
entirely different purposes (listening in though they don't want you to
know that) and that doesn't come out of your pocket.

I suspect that the phone number given to call might not lead to the
official do-not call registry (which does exist for *landlines*, even
though it's only half-efficient) but to some place which collects the
cell-phone numbers (otherwise hard to find, since they're not in any
phonebook) in order to sell them to telemarketers.

This rumour has been going on for over a year now.
--
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Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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Re: [lace-chat] Alert -- Re Cell phone numbers and do not call registry

2007-09-05 Thread Dora Smith

I now followed teh link to the FCC page; I guess this is the truth.

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Chat Arachne" 

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Alert -- Re Cell phone numbers and do not call 
registry




I just looked up the webpage, and this is what is says
right at the top of the page:

"Did you get an email claiming that your cell phone is
about to be assaulted by telemarketing calls because
of a new cell phone number database? Those claims are
not true. In fact, federal law prohibits telemarketers
from using automated dialers to call cell phones. You
may place your personal cell phone number on the
National Do Not Call Registry, but there is generally
no reason to do so. For more information, see the
FTC's press release "The Truth about Cell Phones and
the Do Not Call Registry".

Alice in Oregon


--- Dora Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I got this from my mother in law - took two minutes
to register both my
phones (the land line as well); you can also
register at
http://www.donotcall.gov   - It's a U.S. government
program.

> REMINDER12 days from today, all cell phone
numbers are being released
> to
> telemarketing companies and you will start to
receive sale calls.
>
> YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS
>
> To prevent this, call the following number from
your cell phone:
> 888-382-1222.
>
> It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only
take a minute of your
> time.
> It blocks your number for five (5) years.
> You must call from the cell phone number you want
to have blocked.
> You cannot call from a different phone number.
>
> HELP OTHERS BY PASSING THIS ON TO ALL YOUR
FRIENDS.
> It takes abo ut 20 seconds.
>



Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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[lace-chat] Re: Cell phone numbers and do not call registry

2007-09-05 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Sep 5, 2007, at 19:08, Carolyn Hastings wrote:

I found out one thing the hard way: if you are already a customer, a 
company

can phone you (legally) for mass marketing purposes.


That's why I said the do-not-call registry is only half-effective. 
Charities and politcians are also exempt from the ban. As are, of 
course, scammers, who do not have to obey any rules or laws at all :)



Now I won't be a Verizon customer, and I hope they will
have to stop the phone solicitations.


Not for the next two years or more. It's not just current customers 
they're allowed to pester; it's the past ones as well (who knows, maybe 
you'll change your mind, just to get some relief )


As for Verizon specifically. My landline is not with them but my 
cell-phone is. My cell-phone is turned off most of the time (I only 
turn it on when I intend to make a call or expect one), so they 
couldn't bug me that way. Then I got a couple of calls, purporting to 
be from them, on my landline.


The calls smelled a bit fishy to me (asking for all kinds of info -- 
like Social Security number -- which I do not give to people who call 
me; offering a free phone, etc), so I went to the local Verizon 
franchise to talk about that. And they confirmed that the calls had, in 
all likelihood, been scams, bent on identity theft. They said Verizon 
Wireless representatives might call me to upgrade my plan, etc (at no 
cost to me, since it's Verizon-to-Verizon), but they were not allowed 
to call on the landline, only on the cell-phone.



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[lace-chat] :) Absolute certitude

2007-09-05 Thread Tamara P Duvall

It's good to have a leader who never has a doubt...

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/analysis/toons/2007/09/05/mitchell/ 
index.html

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