[lace-chat] English is hard to learn

2003-09-05 Thread Jean Nathan
From Tamara:

 Then there are words invented by the young find their way into the
 language,
 like hoodies, which is how the youngsters that gather together on
 street
 corners refer to themselves after the hooded fleece tops they wear.

Are you sure? It's been my understanding that the ethymology of this
one comes from 'hood -- as in neighbourhood

'Hoodie' in the US might come from neighbourhood, but we tend not to use
that word here. About the only time it's heard is in Neighbourhood Watch,
where we're all supposedly watching out for crime in our immediate
surroundings. It doesn't happen in practice. Most people don't know who
their neighbours are. I was talking to the lady who lives next door to me
yesterday saying that the only way I see anyone, or we get to know what's
going on, is because I've got a dog who thinks everyone's his friend and
people talk to me because of him. The British reserve isn't a myth - we tend
to keep ourselves to ourselves. In winter you might not see anyone for
months as those who work go leave home in the dark and come home in the
dark. We refer to the area where we live as just that this area, or just
the district of Poole it's known by Creekmoor which covers an area of a
few square miles.

The kids (boys) here probably picked up the word from the US, but, not
knowing anything about neighbourhood, they say it's from their hooded tops.
They gather in their 'gangs' and wear them with the hoods up so they can't
be recognised - they're not always up to no good, it's just what they do.
They'll also put the hoods up if they walk towards someone at night to look
menacing. We've only one group of youngsters in this area, and we all know
who they are, so putting the hoods up to look menacing doesn't actually cut
much ice with the people round here. It's just a teenage thing.

They don't like school uniforms and will do anything to make themselves look
individual, but they're quite happy to wear the current teenage 'uniform'
outside school, currently trainers, crop trousers, hooded top and baseball
cap on back to front, preferably either wearing roller blades or carrying a
skateboard. Girls wear a tight skimpy top and parachute trousers (trousers
with a lot of straps hanging from them).

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace-chat] English is hard to learn

2003-09-05 Thread Tregellas Family
Hi Spiders,

At 09:09 AM 04-09-03 +0100, you wrote:
Dear Lace Chatters,

Jean Nathan wrote:-

 (snip)
 They said was that people who move to another region keep using some of
the
 words from their region of origin to hang on to their roots, but that it
 isn't done consciously.

My husband says that I regain my Lancashire accent when I'm visiting my home
area, and I notice that he regains his in Wiltshire:  neither of us were
conscious of this until it was pointed out.

And according to my DH, my Geordie accent reveals itself when I talk
to little kids, animals or lose my temper :-)

Bye for now,
Shirley T. - Adelaide, South Australia where my 'host of golden daffodils'
are throwing golden light everywhere.

 

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Re: [lace-chat] English is hard to learn

2003-09-05 Thread Sue Babbs
 'Hoodie' in the US might come from neighbourhood, but we tend not to use
 that word here.

Teenage boys in both Chicago and London currently refer to their hooded tops as
hoodies, not sweatshirts as they were once called, but I don't know about gangs
Sue Babbs (in Chicago, with a teenage son who still has friends in 

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Re: [lace-chat] English is hard to learn

2003-09-05 Thread Linda
I don't much care which way they wear them - I'd jusl like them to remove
them indoors!  Cowboy (the dimestore variety, expecially) fall into this
category, too!!!  Just a little ettiquite!

Linda, the string-a-holic in Oregon


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  they're quite happy to wear the current teenage
 'uniform'.snipbaseball
  cap on back to front 

 Re: the baseball cap worn backwards.my husband has always found this
 fashion trend objectionable (to put it mildly).  I found his solution
 amusingHe said he'd like to walk up to people wearing their hats this
way, take them
 off, turn them around and replace them on the head correctly, with the
 admonition, I know this didn't come with directions, but this is the way
it's to be
 worn.

 Vicki in Maryland where the humidity is down and the temps are hinting at
 autumn

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