Re: [Lazarus] Commercial components for Lazarus

[Matt Henley]

Thanks for the information guys.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Duncan Parsons
 wrote:
>
> Hi Matt
>
> Christian Budde set up DelphiAsioVST
> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/delphiasiovst/) to help with VST
> development in Object Pascal. It has alot of classes which you can use,
> or you can just use Frederick Vanmol's translation of the SDK, and
> implement everything yourself.
>
> Over the last couple of years there have been some problems, but mostly
> you can use FPC now. However, at the moment these will only be able to
> use the host's default UI. I am mid flow sorting out the code so that a
> plugin can supply it's own UI, then full XPlatform VST development will
> be possible using Laz/FPC :-)
>
> I'm one of the BetabugsAudio developers, and put out plugs under the
> moniker of RoughDraftAudio. I'm hoping to be doing this XPlat soon...
>
> ATB,
> DSP
>
> Matt Henley wrote:
>
>> Where could I find information on VST under Lazarus or FPC?
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Marco van de Voort 
>> wrote:
>> > Nowadays I hardly buy components. I use cport, indy9, VST and one
>> > routine from dmath/fpmath and that is about it.
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Re: [Lazarus] Commercial components for Lazarus

[Duncan Parsons]

Ah - just looked at the context of your post - do you mean audio
plugin, or Virtual String Trees?

if the former, see my previous post; if the latter, see
http://lazarusroad.blogspot.com/2008/10/status-of-virtual-treeview-port.
html :-)

ATB, DSP

Matt Henley wrote:

> Where could I find information on VST under Lazarus or FPC?
> 
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Marco van de Voort 
> wrote:
> > Nowadays I hardly buy components. I use cport, indy9, VST and one
> > routine from dmath/fpmath and that is about it.
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Re: [Lazarus] Commercial components for Lazarus

[Matt Henley]

Where could I find information on VST under Lazarus or FPC?

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Marco van de Voort  wrote:
> Nowadays I hardly buy components. I use cport, indy9, VST and one routine
> from dmath/fpmath and that is about it.
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Re: [Lazarus] Commercial components for Lazarus

[Lukas Gradl]

> I would buy such components, no problem. As long as they come with source
> included. This is a prerequisite, even when I buy delphi components.
> 
> Michael.

Full ACK on that.

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Re: [Lazarus] Commercial components for Lazarus

[Norman Schwirz]

I want to port some Programs written in Delphi to Lazarus/ Free-Pascal,
because there is no other way for further developing. The only other way
would be to completely rewrite it in another programming language.
:-(Thanks to Borland!)

So, I agree with Graeme and Michael too.

But I have an Idea: what do you think about a little (but continual)
contest of high-quality- programming?


Greetings from South-Tyrol.


Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Michael Van Canneyt
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I would buy such components, no problem. As long as they come with source
>> included. This is a prerequisite, even when I buy delphi components.
> 
> Definitely with source, otherwise there is no way I can port it to
> fpGUI. ;-)  On a more serious note, I do agree with Michael. Back in
> the day when we used Delphi, we got burnt when upgrading Delphi and
> didn't have the source for components. Never to repeat that mistake
> again. :)
> 
> 
> Regards,
>   - Graeme -
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Re: [Lazarus] Commercial components for Lazarus

[Marco van de Voort]

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 03:58:46PM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Michael Van Canneyt
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I would buy such components, no problem. As long as they come with source
> > included. This is a prerequisite, even when I buy delphi components.
> 
> Definitely with source, otherwise there is no way I can port it to
> fpGUI. ;-)  On a more serious note, I do agree with Michael. Back in
> the day when we used Delphi, we got burnt when upgrading Delphi and
> didn't have the source for components. Never to repeat that mistake
> again. :)

Same here, but our reasons were more being able to debug them in case of
problems.

Nowadays I hardly buy components. I use cport, indy9, VST and one routine
from dmath/fpmath and that is about it.

The main reason for that is that most components are not suitable for
systems where 10ms is a long time. (indy runs in a separate thread, since it
can also block longer, cport is async via windows msgs queues)

One of the components I had problems with was TeeChart. It was simply too slow
for us for everything except the slowest systems. (ate more than 300-400ms to 
draw
a simple chart, D7 version)
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Re: [Lazarus] Commercial components for Lazarus

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Michael Van Canneyt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I would buy such components, no problem. As long as they come with source
> included. This is a prerequisite, even when I buy delphi components.

Definitely with source, otherwise there is no way I can port it to
fpGUI. ;-)  On a more serious note, I do agree with Michael. Back in
the day when we used Delphi, we got burnt when upgrading Delphi and
didn't have the source for components. Never to repeat that mistake
again. :)


Regards,
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Re: [Lazarus] Commercial components for Lazarus

[Michael Van Canneyt]

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:42 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Oh no. :) Simply: What is the attitude of  the developers, who are using
> > Lazarus as their development tool?  Would  they buy commercial 3rd party
> > components to improve thier applications?  Is the  Lazarus community a
> > financially viable target for the developers of such components?
> 
> If it saves me a lot of time, I would be more than happy to pay for
> something. That goes for any tools I use - commercial or free. The
> best tool for the job wins! Just the other day I bought Nero for Linux
> simply because it worked better that the hordes of open-source cd
> writing software out there.

Hm. 
And here I am, hoping that K3B will finally be included in the next windows... 
:)

Michael.
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Re: [Lazarus] Commercial components for Lazarus

[Michael Van Canneyt]

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> > "Would the lazarus community pay commercial developers to port their 
> > components ?"
> >
> > Am I correct ?
> 
> 
> Oh no. :) Simply: What is the attitude of  the developers, who are using 
> Lazarus as their development tool?  Would  they buy commercial 3rd party 
> components to improve thier applications?  Is the  Lazarus community a 
> financially viable target for the developers of such components?

I would buy such components, no problem. As long as they come with source
included. This is a prerequisite, even when I buy delphi components.

Michael.
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Re: [Lazarus] Commercial components for Lazarus

[Graeme Geldenhuys]

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:42 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oh no. :) Simply: What is the attitude of  the developers, who are using
> Lazarus as their development tool?  Would  they buy commercial 3rd party
> components to improve thier applications?  Is the  Lazarus community a
> financially viable target for the developers of such components?

If it saves me a lot of time, I would be more than happy to pay for
something. That goes for any tools I use - commercial or free. The
best tool for the job wins! Just the other day I bought Nero for Linux
simply because it worked better that the hordes of open-source cd
writing software out there.


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Re: [Lazarus] Commercial components for Lazarus

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>> I do not object the idea that some of key deveoppers of are being paid 
>> for their effort to make lazarus a good product

Me neither, but as you can see from my previous mail clarifying my 
intentions, the original post was about something else. :)

Regards,
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Re: [Lazarus] Commercial components for Lazarus

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> "Would the lazarus community pay commercial developers to port their 
> components ?"
>
> Am I correct ?


Oh no. :) Simply: What is the attitude of  the developers, who are using 
Lazarus as their development tool?  Would  they buy commercial 3rd party 
components to improve thier applications?  Is the  Lazarus community a 
financially viable target for the developers of such components?

Regards,
Leslie
 

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Re: [Lazarus] Commercial components for Lazarus

[Michael Van Canneyt]

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello List,
> 
> I have written a post to the database section of the Lazarus forum about a 
> commercial database engine recently ported for Lazarus, which made me think 
> about the whole "Commercial components for Lazarus" issue. This is a part of 
> that post: (It can be found here 
> http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=27411#27411)
> 
> 
> < get the chance to develop crossplatform in a Delphi like style. I believe it 
> is important for the future of Lazarus to attract the developers of quality 
> commercial components to port their work for Lazarus. And it is already 
> happening. The big question is if the Lazarus community is willing to realize 
> how valuable it is to have the wealth of quality commercial components for 
> Lazarus we already have for Delphi. Are they willing to pay for it? I 
> certainly hope they see that it is for the benifit of everyone. It could open 
> the way to port a lot of Widows only Delphi projects for different platforms. 
> Many times a suitable 3rd party component can save lots of time and money, so 
> it is more efficient to spend the money on buying a good 3rd party product. >>
> 
> 
> What everyone thinks about this?

What is the question exactly ?  I understand it as:

"Would the lazarus community pay commercial developers to port their components 
?"

Am I correct ?

Michael
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Re: [Lazarus] Commercial components for Lazarus

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello List,
>  
> I have written a post to the database section of the Lazarus forum
> about a commercial database engine recently ported for Lazarus, which
> made me think about the whole "Commercial components for Lazarus"
> issue. This is a part of that post: (It can be found here
> http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=27411#27411
> )
>  
>  
> < just to get the chance to develop crossplatform in a Delphi like
> style. I believe it is important for the future of Lazarus to attract
> the developers of quality commercial components to port their work for
> Lazarus. And it is already happening. The big question is if the
> Lazarus community is willing to realize how valuable it is to have the
> wealth of quality commercial components for Lazarus we already have
> for Delphi. Are they willing to pay for it? I certainly hope they see
> that it is for the benifit of everyone. It could open the way to port
> a lot of Widows only Delphi projects for different platforms. Many
> times a suitable 3rd party component can save lots of time and money,
> so it is more efficient to spend the money on buying a good 3rd party
> product. >>
>  
> What everyone thinks about this?
>
> Regards,
> Leslie
> 
> I do not object the idea that some of key deveoppers of are being paid for 
> their effort to make lazarus a good product
>   

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[Lazarus] Commercial components for Lazarus

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Hello List,

I have written a post to the database section of the Lazarus forum about a 
commercial database engine recently ported for Lazarus, which made me think 
about the whole "Commercial components for Lazarus" issue. This is a part of 
that post: (It can be found here 
http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=27411#27411)


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What everyone thinks about this?

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