Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys via Lazarus
On 2018-03-23 08:27, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:
> This is lazarus, after all - it should work on all supported platforms.

ROFL.


Sorry, I couldn't resist. ;-)


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  Graeme
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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-23 Thread Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus

On 23.03.2018 10:51, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:

I need it for FPReport, meaning it must be in Lazarus itself, so I will
write a minimalistic dialog that supports Alpha and include it in the 
report

designer package.


Yes, that makes sense. In Lazarus itself the same problem is solved by 
selecting the color and alpha channel independently:




But I am aware it doesn't need to suit your needs either.

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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-23 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus



On Fri, 23 Mar 2018, Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus wrote:


On 23.03.2018 8:11, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:
Since I don't want dependencies on other packages - only the LCL can 
be used - this is not an option...


Unfortunately LCL always uses native widgets - including dialogs. 
Non-native and custom widgets (that are not in the VCL) are left for 3rd 
party vendors. The Lazarus CCR (where mbColorLib is hosted) is a good 
place for such 3rd party custom components. E.g. virtual tree view and 
fpspreadsheet are hosted there as well. I am sure you can get commit 
rights for it if you want to improve libraries stored there.


If you like to write your own alpha channel color dialog (based on 
mbColorLib or not), you are welcome to host it on LazarusCCR as well.


I need it for FPReport, meaning it must be in Lazarus itself, so I will
write a minimalistic dialog that supports Alpha and include it in the report
designer package.

Michael.
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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-23 Thread Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus

On 23.03.2018 8:11, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:
Since I don't want dependencies on other packages - only the LCL can 
be used - this is not an option...


Unfortunately LCL always uses native widgets - including dialogs. 
Non-native and custom widgets (that are not in the VCL) are left for 3rd 
party vendors. The Lazarus CCR (where mbColorLib is hosted) is a good 
place for such 3rd party custom components. E.g. virtual tree view and 
fpspreadsheet are hosted there as well. I am sure you can get commit 
rights for it if you want to improve libraries stored there.


If you like to write your own alpha channel color dialog (based on 
mbColorLib or not), you are welcome to host it on LazarusCCR as well.


Ondrej
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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-23 Thread zeljko via Lazarus

On 03/23/2018 10:27 AM, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:
ported platforms.


Well, Qt works on all supported desktop platforms :)


Oh please, you know what I meant :)

s/platforms/platforms+widgetsets/g  :)


Of course I know :)

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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-23 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus



On Fri, 23 Mar 2018, zeljko wrote:


On 03/23/2018 09:27 AM, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:



On Fri, 23 Mar 2018, zeljko wrote:


On 03/22/2018 08:49 PM, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:


Hello,

Is there a version of TColorDialog which allows to specify an Alpha 
channel ?


Qt4/Qt5 ws have alpha option in standard color dialog.


That's no good to me. It needs to work on all platforms, all widgetsets.

This is lazarus, after all - it should work on all supported platforms.


Well, Qt works on all supported desktop platforms :)


Oh please, you know what I meant :)

s/platforms/platforms+widgetsets/g  :)

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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-23 Thread zeljko via Lazarus

On 03/23/2018 09:27 AM, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:



On Fri, 23 Mar 2018, zeljko wrote:


On 03/22/2018 08:49 PM, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:


Hello,

Is there a version of TColorDialog which allows to specify an Alpha 
channel ?


Qt4/Qt5 ws have alpha option in standard color dialog.


That's no good to me. It needs to work on all platforms, all widgetsets.

This is lazarus, after all - it should work on all supported platforms.


Well, Qt works on all supported desktop platforms :)

zeljko

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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-23 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus



On Fri, 23 Mar 2018, zeljko wrote:


On 03/22/2018 08:49 PM, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:


Hello,

Is there a version of TColorDialog which allows to specify an Alpha channel 
?


Qt4/Qt5 ws have alpha option in standard color dialog.


That's no good to me. It needs to work on all platforms, all widgetsets.

This is lazarus, after all - it should work on all supported platforms.

Michael.
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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-23 Thread zeljko via Lazarus

On 03/22/2018 08:49 PM, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:


Hello,

Is there a version of TColorDialog which allows to specify an Alpha 
channel ?


Qt4/Qt5 ws have alpha option in standard color dialog.

zeljko
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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-23 Thread Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus

On 23.03.2018 1:25, Werner Pamler via Lazarus wrote:
Looking at the demo of the mbColorLib again after some time I see now 
a terrible flicker on Windows. Ondrej, I fear your change in 
double-buffering killed a majority of third-party components. It may 
take some time until all authors will fix this (and most of them left 
their babies...).


Why killed? You can still set the DoubleBuffered property to True.

In 1.8 the DoubleBuffered property was ignored on Windows for all 
controls. Instead DoubleBuffered=True was forced without the chance to 
disable it. I.e. the property was absolutely useless since it is not 
used on Linux/OSX either.


I just disabled the forced DoubleBuffered=True - the same what Delphi 
does. The only thing LCL misses is ParentDoubleBuffered that makes 
things easier.


If you don't like the Delphi way but like the Lazarus 1.8 way - it's a 
valid scenario as well, but then the DoubleBuffered property should be 
deprecated/removed and DoubleBuffered should be handled automatically 
with protected methods to override the default behavior.


If you want to discuss it, it will be better to open a new thread.

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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-23 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus



On Fri, 23 Mar 2018, Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus wrote:


On 22.03.2018 21:41, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus wrote:


On 22.03.2018 20:49, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:

Maybe you can try to build one using 
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/mbColorLib#RGB_color_pickers


It looks like I will have to make one myself :(


This is exactly what I meant by "you can try to build one using ...". It 
shouldn't be that hard - just use the color picker you like (e.g. 
THSColorPicker) and put a spinedit next to it for the alpha channel value.


Since I don't want dependencies on other packages - only the LCL can be used 
- this is not an option...


Michael.
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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-23 Thread Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus

On 22.03.2018 21:41, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus wrote:


On 22.03.2018 20:49, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:

Maybe you can try to build one using 
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/mbColorLib#RGB_color_pickers


It looks like I will have to make one myself :(


This is exactly what I meant by "you can try to build one using ...". It 
shouldn't be that hard - just use the color picker you like (e.g. 
THSColorPicker) and put a spinedit next to it for the alpha channel value.


Ondrej
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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-22 Thread Anthony Walter via Lazarus
I've written a pascal version of some color controls which I've ported to
Lazarus. Here is a link to a page with demo video:

https://www.codebot.org/delphi/?doc=9524

These controls includes a hue picker that has 2 styles (radial as shown and
bar), a saturation pick again with 2 styles, and an alpha picker. I also
have a color value slider edit box, where you can type out a R, G, B values
in bytes or floats, and it has a drop down with a left right slider that
shows you the colors.

They should be enough to create a decent pascal native color picker. Quick
example, adding the alpha picker and drop down edit is trivial:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/cache.codebot.org/videos/color-lazarus-example.mp4
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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-22 Thread Vojtěch Čihák via Lazarus

Hello,
 
native TColorDialog in Qt4 has slider and edit for Alpha channel but this value 
is never in the result (i.e. TColorDialog.Color property). TColor uses upper 8 
bits for other purposes than alpha.
 
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Hello,

Is there a version of TColorDialog which allows to specify an Alpha channel ?

Michael.
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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-22 Thread Werner Pamler via Lazarus

Am 22.03.2018 um 21:36 schrieb Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus:


Not in the LCL itself. Maybe you can try to build one using 
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/mbColorLib#RGB_color_pickers


I did the port to Lazarus. But no - none of them supports an alpha 
channel, they focus on color selection based on a variety of color 
models. Maybe you should have a look at BGRABitmap and associated controls.


Looking at the demo of the mbColorLib again after some time I see now a 
terrible flicker on Windows. Ondrej, I fear your change in 
double-buffering killed a majority of third-party components. It may 
take some time until all authors will fix this (and most of them left 
their babies...).


Werner

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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-22 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus



On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus wrote:


On 22.03.2018 20:49, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:
Is there a version of TColorDialog which allows to specify an Alpha 
channel ?


Not in the LCL itself. Maybe you can try to build one using 
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/mbColorLib#RGB_color_pickers


I didn't use it myself, it just popped up in a Google search.


Hm. I didn't find that. Must have used the wrong terms. 
However, none of them seems to support Alpha.


It looks like I will have to make one myself :(

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Re: [Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-22 Thread Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus

On 22.03.2018 20:49, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:
Is there a version of TColorDialog which allows to specify an Alpha 
channel ?


Not in the LCL itself. Maybe you can try to build one using 
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/mbColorLib#RGB_color_pickers


I didn't use it myself, it just popped up in a Google search.

Ondrej
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[Lazarus] Color and transparancy selection ?

2018-03-22 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus


Hello,

Is there a version of TColorDialog which allows to specify an Alpha channel ?

Michael.
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