Re: [Lazarus] TTreenode.data
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Richard Mace richard.m...@gmail.com wrote: And I am now getting an exception when my app run? Use debugger to see what goes wrong. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Install/Uninstall package form: Do not install more
The Install/Uninstall package form has two lists: a) installed packages (or those marked for installation. Caption above: Install b) available but not installed packages. Caption: Do not install WHen I started using Lazarus, the Do not install caption made it unclear that this is actually the list of available packages, and Lazarus will not actually e.g. uninstall anything that is in that list when you click Saven and rebuild IDE. (I know, I might be easily confused, not RTFM etc). 1. Would it be a good idea to rename the caption to Available? Some additional remarks/requests: 2. In additition to the red overlay for packages marked for uninstalleation, and the green one for packages marked for installation, perhaps a hint/tooltip could appear mentioned Marked for installation/Marked for removal so people who don't know what those icons mean are told? Alternatively I suppose mentioning this in Package info in current state may also be considered. 3. Perhaps it's a good idea to have a search box for the left list (installed packages) as well... depends on the amount of stuff you have installed but it can be useful. 4. A long time ago I sent a reminder to package maintainers that it would be a good idea to fill out the Description field of the package... There's still quite some packages that have no info (aarrebase, cocoa_pkg, customdrawn, demoidehelp, etc.) Thanks, Reinier -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Help needed for issue #20311: IDE always tailors Target processor options for Intel CPUs
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote: What do you need for this: fpc -i output? Yes, running on different CPUs. It is this section: Supported CPU instruction sets: My version shows only ATHLON64 which I fixed now in the code for x86_64 CPU. Mattias earlier told me about fpc -P option for selecting the CPU, but it would require a cross-compiled fpc or something. For me only this works: $ fpc -i -Px86_64 Other values like fpc -i -Pi386 or fpc -i -Parm give an error: Error: ppc386 can't be executed, error message: Failed to execute ppc386, error code: 127 One thing is that selecting a different CPU family and processor type in Lazarus IDE is not supported by FPC in most cases, but at least we should see realistic choices in the list. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Help needed for issue #20311: IDE always tailors Target processor options for Intel CPUs
Am 13.09.2013 09:50, schrieb Juha Manninen: On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote: What do you need for this: fpc -i output? Yes, running on different CPUs. It is this section: Supported CPU instruction sets: My version shows only ATHLON64 which I fixed now in the code for x86_64 CPU. Mattias earlier told me about fpc -P option for selecting the CPU, but it would require a cross-compiled fpc or something. For me only this works: $ fpc -i -Px86_64 Other values like fpc -i -Pi386 or fpc -i -Parm give an error: Error: ppc386 can't be executed, error message: Failed to execute ppc386, error code: 127 One thing is that selecting a different CPU family and processor type in Lazarus IDE is not supported by FPC in most cases, but at least we should see realistic choices in the list. When you only do a make all CPU_TARGET=Whatever_CPU OS_TARGET=Whatever_Target then a compiler for that target will be created (e.g. ppc386, ppcx64, ppc68k, etc.). You should not use that compiler for production however as it is compiled using the RTL of your starting compiler. For checking the supported CPUs using -i this will be sufficient however. Thereby Whatever_CPU is one of FPC's supported CPUs (e.g. i386, x86_64, m68k, mips, etc.) and Whatever_Target is a target supported on that CPU (mostly you can use linux, for AVR you'll need to use embedded AFAIK). Alternatively you can just take a look at the compiler/$cpu/cpuinfo.pas units where there is a tcpuinfo enum and a cputypestr array. The latter is what you can pass using -Cp. Regards, Sven -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Help needed for issue #20311: IDE always tailors Target processor options for Intel CPUs
Sven Barth wrote: Am 13.09.2013 09:50, schrieb Juha Manninen: On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote: What do you need for this: fpc -i output? Yes, running on different CPUs. It is this section: Supported CPU instruction sets: Alternatively you can just take a look at the compiler/$cpu/cpuinfo.pas units where there is a tcpuinfo enum and a cputypestr array. The latter is what you can pass using -Cp. In any event, I'll work through the various compilers (running natively) that I've got available to me. They won't be the most recent in some cases since my fast Qemu system blew up, so e.g. somebody else could usefully check e.g. 68k and in particular ARM. Is there anything else that I could usefully grab at the same time, e.g. ABI types? In particular, noting that you've fixed http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=20310 but is there some variant of fpc -i etc. that lists applicable assembler styles? -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Help needed for issue #20311: IDE always tailors Target processor options for Intel CPUs
Am 13.09.2013 10:37, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd: Sven Barth wrote: Am 13.09.2013 09:50, schrieb Juha Manninen: On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote: What do you need for this: fpc -i output? Yes, running on different CPUs. It is this section: Supported CPU instruction sets: Alternatively you can just take a look at the compiler/$cpu/cpuinfo.pas units where there is a tcpuinfo enum and a cputypestr array. The latter is what you can pass using -Cp. In any event, I'll work through the various compilers (running natively) that I've got available to me. They won't be the most recent in some cases since my fast Qemu system blew up, so e.g. somebody else could usefully check e.g. 68k and in particular ARM. m68k has (since a few days) the following: 68000 68020 isaa isaa+ isab isac Is there anything else that I could usefully grab at the same time, e.g. ABI types? In particular, noting that you've fixed http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=20310 but is there some variant of fpc -i etc. that lists applicable assembler styles? The assembler styles are reported in the -h output at -R. They are adjusted for each target. The FPU type for -Cf might also be interesting (especially for ARM). The output is available in fpc -i as well. Regards, Sven -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] TTreenode.data
On 13/09/2013 09:37, Antonio Fortuny wrote: Le 13/09/2013 07:48, Richard Mace a écrit : OK, I now have this code: Details are missing about your implementation: Lzarus FPC, OS, etc. Guessing Windows x86 - not writing a FreeSwitch control application, by any chance [1] ;) http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.freeswitch.user/64508 -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Help needed for issue #20311: IDE always tailors Target processor options for Intel CPUs
-h output at -R says here: -Rx Assembler reading style: -Rdefault Use default assembler for target Well, I would be happy if somebody provides a patch for the remaining lists. The code is structured so that it is easy to add processor type lists. See TCompilerConfigTargetFrame.UpdateByTargetCPU This issue is now low priority for me because of 3 reasons: 1. In a way it is fixed now as wrong values cannot be selected any more. Now this issue is something between a bug and a feature. 2. This development is parallel to the All Options parser and GUI that I made earlier. It reads options directly from FPC, but only for the current platform / CPU. How these two things could be combined? I don't know and I don't think about it now. Later maybe... 3. I want to get some bugs fixed for the coming Lazarus 1.2 branch. They get higher priority. Next week I start new work at a place far away from my home. I stay there for 2 weeks and then continue by tele-cummuting. I keep my thumbs up for myself that it will work out. In any case my resources for this project will be limited then. Regards, Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Help needed for issue #20311: IDE always tailors Target processor options for Intel CPUs
Am 13.09.2013 11:50, schrieb Juha Manninen: -h output at -R says here: -Rx Assembler reading style: -Rdefault Use default assembler for target Yes, some have only one assembler reader. On i386 and AFAIK x86_64 there are different styles possible. Don't know on other CPUs. Regards, Sven -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Help needed for issue #20311: IDE always tailors Target processor options for Intel CPUs
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, some have only one assembler reader. On i386 and AFAIK x86_64 there are different styles possible. Don't know on other CPUs. This is x86_64. Apparently it only has one reader. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Help needed for issue #20311: IDE always tailors Target processor options for Intel CPUs
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: 2. This development is parallel to the All Options parser and GUI that I made earlier. It reads options directly from FPC, but only for the current platform / CPU. Correction: actually the options are read with user defined TargetOS and TargetCPU as parameters for FPC, like : ParsedTarget := '-T$(TargetOS) -P$(TargetCPU)'; GlobalMacroList.SubstituteStr(ParsedTarget); Lines:=RunTool(fCompilerExecutable, ParsedTarget + ' -i'); But it works only if the compiler supports them. Regards, Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
Hi, This is probably the single biggest lacking feature of the Lazarus IDE. Is anybody working on implementing Project Groups (like Delphi has had a lifetime ago)? ps #1: If this is already in Trunk, then sorry for the noise. My Lazarus is a Trunk checkout from about 2-3 months ago, and it doesn't contain Project Groups support. ps #2: I haven't looked at the IDE source recently... If Project Groups are not implement yet, does anybody with the IDE know-how venture to guess how a large or complex task this would be? Off the bat I can't think it is a huge task, so I might try and implement it myself - unless I am missing some non-obvious stumbling block - and hence the reason it has not been implemented to date. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk hat am 13. September 2013 um 12:33 geschrieben: Hi, This is probably the single biggest lacking feature of the Lazarus IDE. Is anybody working on implementing Project Groups (like Delphi has had a lifetime ago)? Other single biggest lacking features are: docking, android, dyn packages, pkg repository, installer, offline help, ... ps #1: If this is already in Trunk, then sorry for the noise. My Lazarus is a Trunk checkout from about 2-3 months ago, and it doesn't contain Project Groups support. No, it is not implemented yet. ps #2: I haven't looked at the IDE source recently... If Project Groups are not implement yet, does anybody with the IDE know-how venture to guess how a large or complex task this would be? Off the bat I can't think it is a huge task, so I might try and implement it myself - unless I am missing some non-obvious stumbling block - and hence the reason it has not been implemented to date. If you only want one window to easily switch the active project and using that to compile a bunch of projects, then yes, it is easy. If you want to have several projects open at the same time (e.g. for debugging), then it will be a big task. Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: This is probably the single biggest lacking feature of the Lazarus IDE. Is anybody working on implementing Project Groups (like Delphi has had a lifetime ago)? Not actively. Mattias has added references to current project to some places so the code can use them instead of Project1 directly. This is very preliminary though. Soon a branch for Lazarus 1.2 will be forked. After that trunk would be open for such new big feature. does anybody with the IDE know-how venture to guess how a large or complex task this would be? Off the bat I can't think it is a huge task, so I might try and implement it myself - unless I am missing some non-obvious stumbling block - and hence the reason it has not been implemented to date. Unfortunately it is quite a complex task. The biggest challenge is to refactor the code so that Project1 is not referred to directly. A project holds lots of data including session info. A quick search for Project1 in Lazarus sources gives 846 matches. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
On 13/09/2013 12:56, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk hat am 13. September 2013 um 12:33 geschrieben: This is probably the single biggest lacking feature of the Lazarus IDE. Is anybody working on implementing Project Groups (like Delphi has had a lifetime ago)? Other single biggest lacking features are: ;) offline help, ... ??? Offline help is available+enabled in trunk; chm help is installed by the installer. See e.g. menu about/help Different story if you mean other issues such as: 1. the contents themselves which are far from complete 2. some issues such as 2.1 lack of context-sensitive help 2.2 help/about not showing the help files (a patch of mine in bug 24743 that implements part of that was implemented but more is needed) 2.3 no context-sensitive help for controls on forms in the designer Hint: I could still use help with bug 24743. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
On 2013-09-13 11:56, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Other single biggest lacking features are: docking, android, dyn packages, pkg repository, installer, offline help, ... :) the every growing to-do list. Sometimes one has to ask why we decided to become programmers. :) No, it is not implemented yet. Thanks for the info. If you only want one window to easily switch the active project and using that to compile a bunch of projects, then yes, it is easy. Yup, that's all I want for Project Groups. Being able to quickly switch between related projects, do a build all projects in group [great for release day], re-order projects in the group, and do a build projects from here. All my projects tend to consist of 4+ executables, and the project I work the most on consists of 10+ executables. Doing manual building of projects one-by-one is so labour intensive - hence I have many build scripts. Maintaining those build scripts is a pain too. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
On 2013-09-13 12:03, Juha Manninen wrote: A quick search for Project1 in Lazarus sources gives 846 matches. Ouch! Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
Am 13.09.2013 12:56, schrieb Mattias Gaertner: Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk hat am 13. September 2013 um 12:33 geschrieben: Hi, This is probably the single biggest lacking feature of the Lazarus IDE. Is anybody working on implementing Project Groups (like Delphi has had a lifetime ago)? Other single biggest lacking features are: (...) dyn packages, (...) Which requires compiler support first. :) Regards, Sven -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Help needed for issue #20311: IDE always tailors Target processor options for Intel CPUs
Am 13.09.2013 12:16, schrieb Juha Manninen: On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, some have only one assembler reader. On i386 and AFAIK x86_64 there are different styles possible. Don't know on other CPUs. This is x86_64. Apparently it only has one reader. It seems that the help output is not up to date there... Here is the list of supported assembler readers (all also support standard or default which I'll mark with a *): - i386 att (*), gas (alias for att), intel - x86_64 att (*), gas (alias for att), intel - sparc att(*) - ppc att(*) - mips att (standard/default seems to be missing here...) - m68k mot(*) - i8086 att (*), gas (alias for att), intel - avr att (*) - arm att (*) - jvm None! Regards, Sven -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
Am 13.09.2013 12:33, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: This is probably the single biggest lacking feature of the Lazarus IDE. Is anybody working on implementing Project Groups (like Delphi has had a lifetime ago)? Just in case: I reported this already some time ago: http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=18518 Regards, Sven -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 01:05:05PM +0200, Reinier Olislagers wrote: offline help, ... ??? Offline help is available+enabled in trunk; chm help is installed by the installer. See e.g. menu about/help I think Mattias meant IDE help, not library help. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2013-09-13 11:56, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Other single biggest lacking features are: docking, android, dyn packages, pkg repository, installer, offline help, ... :) the every growing to-do list. Sometimes one has to ask why we decided to become programmers. :) No, it is not implemented yet. Thanks for the info. If you only want one window to easily switch the active project and using that to compile a bunch of projects, then yes, it is easy. Yup, that's all I want for Project Groups. Being able to quickly switch between related projects, do a build all projects in group [great for release day], re-order projects in the group, and do a build projects from here. All my projects tend to consist of 4+ executables, and the project I work the most on consists of 10+ executables. Doing manual building of projects one-by-one is so labour intensive - hence I have many build scripts. Maintaining those build scripts is a pain too. Same here. At least, having this window would be a very good start. The advanced features could follow later. But then, Mattias knows this already. I bugged him enough about it :( Michael. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
On 2013-09-13 12:03, Juha Manninen wrote: Unfortunately it is quite a complex task. The biggest challenge is to refactor the code so that Project1 is not referred to directly. A project holds lots of data including session info. Thinking about it a bit more... It might not be as complex - if you only want to be able to switch between grouped projects (exclude Mattias's debugging requirement for now). For example... Currently only one active project is allowed [the reference to Project1]. Well, with grouped projects that would still be true. The Project Group window will simply allow you to switch the active project much easier - a simple double-click. The other Project Group functionality like compiling all grouped projects would simply mean that the IDE switches the active project by iterating the group list, and then at the end set the active project back to what it was before the compile all projects task was run. Loading of each project would do exactly what Project - Open Project.. does now. With this in mind, Project Group functionality could probably be implemented as a Lazarus Add-on - without affecting the lazarus project release cycle. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org hat am 13. September 2013 um 14:11 geschrieben: [...] If you only want one window to easily switch the active project and using that to compile a bunch of projects, then yes, it is easy. Create a new designtime package. Invent some GUI to load/save/edit groups. Use LazarusIDE.DoOpenProjectFile to switch project. Use LazarusIDE.DoBuildProject to compile project. If you need some hooks just ask. Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
On 2013-09-13 13:11, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: At least, having this window would be a very good start. The advanced features could follow later. Exactly. If my theory is correct [see my last post] then it really shouldn't be hard. I'll try and create a Project Groups add-on over the weekend. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
On 2013-09-13 13:33, Mattias Gaertner wrote: If you need some hooks just ask. You read my mind, I was just about to post about available IDE interface methods. Thanks for posting that info. I'll take a stab at it over the weekend. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
Am 13.09.2013 14:23, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: On 2013-09-13 12:03, Juha Manninen wrote: Unfortunately it is quite a complex task. The biggest challenge is to refactor the code so that Project1 is not referred to directly. A project holds lots of data including session info. Thinking about it a bit more... It might not be as complex - if you only want to be able to switch between grouped projects (exclude Mattias's debugging requirement for now). For example... Currently only one active project is allowed [the reference to Project1]. Well, with grouped projects that would still be true. The Project Group window will simply allow you to switch the active project much easier - a simple double-click. The other Project Group functionality like compiling all grouped projects would simply mean that the IDE switches the active project by iterating the group list, and then at the end set the active project back to what it was before the compile all projects task was run. Loading of each project would do exactly what Project - Open Project.. does now. With this in mind, Project Group functionality could probably be implemented as a Lazarus Add-on - without affecting the lazarus project release cycle. Each project has its own session information = the source editor tabs would switch each time the project switches during a group compilation. In that case group project needs to be a project as well (with session information which overrides the single project's session information) and during group compilation the changing of source editor tabs needs to be blocked (don't know whether that is currently possible). Regards, Sven -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com hat am 13. September 2013 um 14:43 geschrieben: [...] Each project has its own session information = the source editor tabs would switch each time the project switches during a group compilation. In that case group project needs to be a project as well (with session information which overrides the single project's session information) and during group compilation the changing of source editor tabs needs to be blocked (don't know whether that is currently possible). Yes, the I in IDE is the big task. Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: All my projects tend to consist of 4+ executables, and the project I work the most on consists of 10+ executables. Doing manual building of projects one-by-one is so labour intensive - hence I have many build scripts. Maintaining those build scripts is a pain too. What improvement of that situation do you expect, when the IDE manages the build scripts/projects for you? The IDE has no idea of your problems, causing your intensive labour. As I see it, it won't be much work to add a project group pane/form to the IDE, and to invoke the build process for all projects listed there. The builds are done by external tools (FPC...) anyway. The really tricky part IMO would be the handling of the messages, returned from the various build processes. In the simplest case a click on such a message then should make the IDE load the related project, before proceeding with the usual handling of such an click. The same handling already were required when a different project is selected from a project group (treeview...). So IMO all this boils down to a *persistent* list of projects and related messages, that has to be added to the IDE. Where persistent means that this list is not affected by loading projects, in detail the project build messages should survive. Eventually the messages display has to be updated (splitted?) into multiple sections, each related to one project in the build group, and updated individually on a compile/build of that related project. DoDi -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: On 2013-09-13 13:33, Mattias Gaertner wrote: If you need some hooks just ask. You read my mind, I was just about to post about available IDE interface methods. Thanks for posting that info. I'll take a stab at it over the weekend. Great. Thanks for your time. Marcos Douglas -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Packages
http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=25013 New Linux, New Lazarus, having to reinstall the packages with this bug is a troubling case. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
http://free-pascal-lazarus.989080.n3.nabble.com/Lazarus-Lazarus-Project-Group-td2393597.html :) -- Silvio Clécio My public projects - github.com/silvioprog -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Help needed for issue #20311: IDE always tailors Target processor options for Intel CPUs
Am 13.09.2013 10:48, schrieb Sven Barth: Is there anything else that I could usefully grab at the same time, e.g. ABI types? In particular, noting that you've fixed http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=20310 but is there some variant of fpc -i etc. that lists applicable assembler styles? The assembler styles are reported in the -h output at -R. fpc -i now shows also the assembler reader modes using the data from the compiler. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Help needed for issue #20311: IDE always tailors Target processor options for Intel CPUs
Sven Barth wrote: Is there anything else that I could usefully grab at the same time, e.g. ABI types? In particular, noting that you've fixed http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=20310 but is there some variant of fpc -i etc. that lists applicable assembler styles? The assembler styles are reported in the -h output at -R. They are adjusted for each target. The FPU type for -Cf might also be interesting (especially for ARM). The output is available in fpc -i as well. At least with the versions I've currently got available it looks as though -R and -Cf defer to -i. Specifically, I see something like this in all cases except x86: -Ax Output format: -Adefault Use default assembler -Aas Assemble using GNU AS -Cfx Select fpu instruction set to use, see fpc -i for possible values -Rx Assembler reading style: -Rdefault Use default assembler for target I think the -A output for SPARC Solaris might be different, but I can't easily test right now. Output for -i from native 2.6.0 or 2.6.2, unless noted. Apologies if this is excessively noisy. SPARC, Linux: - Compiler CPU Target: sparc Supported targets: Solaris for SPARC (under development) Linux for SPARC Supported CPU instruction sets: SPARC V7 SPARC V8 SPARC V9 Supported FPU instruction sets: SOFT HARD Supported ABI targets: DEFAULT SYSV AIX EABI ARMEB Supported Optimizations: REGVAR LOOPUNROLL TAILREC CSE Supported Whole Program Optimizations: All DEVIRTCALLS OPTVMTS SYMBOLLIVENESS Supported Microcontroller types: ARMEL, Linux on Qemu: - Compiler CPU Target: arm Supported targets: Linux for ARMEL WinCE for ARM GameBoy Advance PalmOS Nintendo DS Embedded Symbian OS for ARM Darwin for ARM Supported CPU instruction sets: ARMV3 ARMV4 ARMV5 ARMV6 ARMV7 ARMV7M CORTEXM3 Supported FPU instruction sets: SOFT LIBGCC FPA FPA10 FPA11 VFPV2 VFPV3 Supported ABI targets: DEFAULT SYSV AIX EABI ARMEB Supported Optimizations: REGVAR STACKFRAME LOOPUNROLL TAILREC CSE Supported Whole Program Optimizations: All DEVIRTCALLS OPTVMTS SYMBOLLIVENESS Supported Microcontroller types: LPC2114 LPC2124 LPC2194 AT91SAM7S256 AT91SAM7SE256 AT91SAM7X256 AT91SAM7XC256 STM32F103RE STELLARIS MIPS, Linux on Qemu (2.7.1, r22655): Compiler CPU Target: mipseb Supported targets: Linux for MIPSEB Supported CPU instruction sets: mips2 mips1 mips2 mips3 mips4 mips5 mips32 mips32r2 Supported FPU instruction sets: SOFT FPU_MIPS2 FPU_MIPS3 Supported ABI targets: DEFAULT SYSV AIX EABI ARMEB EABIHF Supported Optimizations: REGVAR LOOPUNROLL CSE ORDERFIELDS FASTMATH Supported Whole Program Optimizations: All DEVIRTCALLS OPTVMTS SYMBOLLIVENESS Supported Microcontroller types: MIPSEL, Linux on Qemu (2.7.1, r22655): -- Compiler CPU Target: mipsel Supported targets: Linux for MIPSEL Supported CPU instruction sets: mips2 mips1 mips2 mips3 mips4 mips5 mips32 mips32r2 Supported FPU instruction sets: SOFT FPU_MIPS2 FPU_MIPS3 Supported ABI targets: DEFAULT SYSV AIX EABI ARMEB EABIHF Supported Optimizations: REGVAR LOOPUNROLL CSE ORDERFIELDS FASTMATH Supported Whole Program Optimizations: All DEVIRTCALLS OPTVMTS SYMBOLLIVENESS Supported Microcontroller types: I've not been tracking ARM or MIPS(EL) on Linux closely over the last few months, and have never looked at them on e.g. Android. I don't have a known-working x86-64 and am assuming that somebody (anybody!) else is better placed to check x86 on e.g. Windows. I can manage Linux and probably NT if necessary. I can't conveniently test either SPARC or x86-64 Solaris at the moment. I can probably manage SPARC if necessary. I can't test PPC on Linux at the moment due to hardware failure. Last time I investigated FPC didn't run on PPC Mac classic OS. I might be able to fix Linux. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Scrollbars in SynEdit
Using Lazarus 1.0, I notice that if a SynEdit has ssAutoBoth set it appears to have a permanent horizontal scrollbar as though the width is set to around 256 characters. Is this a bug, or a feature that I can disable? -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Scrollbars in SynEdit
On 13/09/2013 20:44, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Using Lazarus 1.0, I notice that if a SynEdit has ssAutoBoth set it appears to have a permanent horizontal scrollbar as though the width is set to around 256 characters. Is this a bug, or a feature that I can disable? its config disable: Options [eoScrollPastEOL] or set MaxLeftChar So you need to trigger an update (change size, or change scrollbar setting, as changing the above does not update the visibility of the scrollbar immediately (that is a bug) with eoScrollPastEOL, the editor assumes a minimom of MaxLeftChar to be scrollable. If there is a longer line, then the longer line will take over. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Install/Uninstall package form: Do not install more
13.09.2013 11:31, Reinier Olislagers пишет: The Install/Uninstall package form has two lists: a) installed packages (or those marked for installation. Caption above: Install b) available but not installed packages. Caption: Do not install WHen I started using Lazarus, the Do not install caption made it unclear that this is actually the list of available packages, and Lazarus will not actually e.g. uninstall anything that is in that list when you click Saven and rebuild IDE. (I know, I might be easily confused, not RTFM etc). 1. Would it be a good idea to rename the caption to Available? I improved captions in r42784. Please test. Some additional remarks/requests: 2. In additition to the red overlay for packages marked for uninstalleation, and the green one for packages marked for installation, perhaps a hint/tooltip could appear mentioned Marked for installation/Marked for removal so people who don't know what those icons mean are told? Alternatively I suppose mentioning this in Package info in current state may also be considered. These descriptions are present in 'Package Info' memo, as far as I can see. 3. Perhaps it's a good idea to have a search box for the left list (installed packages) as well... depends on the amount of stuff you have installed but it can be useful. Please create a feature request for this. 4. A long time ago I sent a reminder to package maintainers that it would be a good idea to fill out the Description field of the package... There's still quite some packages that have no info (aarrebase, cocoa_pkg, customdrawn, demoidehelp, etc.) Thanks, Reinier -- Best regards, Maxim Ganetsky mailto:gan...@narod.ru -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Multiple copies of same form
I would like to write an app that has the following properties: 1) A main form exists, one of which is spawned at program start; 2) Additional copies of the main form may be spawned; 3) The program exits only when no copies of the main form are in existence. I've tried a few things when spawning additional forms, such as form.Create, but when I close the *first* form spawned, *all* such forms are destroyed. I also tried Application.CreateForm, but that doesn't seem to do anything. Google has failed me, as well. What's my best option for this? -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Multiple copies of same form
Timothy Groves schrieb: I would like to write an app that has the following properties: 1) A main form exists, one of which is spawned at program start; 2) Additional copies of the main form may be spawned; 3) The program exits only when no copies of the main form are in existence. I've tried a few things when spawning additional forms, such as form.Create, but when I close the *first* form spawned, *all* such forms are destroyed. That's the specified behaviour: the first created form becomes Application.MainForm, and the program terminates when exactly that form is closed. I also tried Application.CreateForm, but that doesn't seem to do anything. Google has failed me, as well. What's my best option for this? I'd keep a dummy MainForm hidden, and count the instances of the other forms. DoDi -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Multiple copies of same form
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 03:08:46 +0200 Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com wrote: Timothy Groves schrieb: I would like to write an app that has the following properties: 1) A main form exists, one of which is spawned at program start; 2) Additional copies of the main form may be spawned; 3) The program exits only when no copies of the main form are in existence. I've tried a few things when spawning additional forms, such as form.Create, but when I close the *first* form spawned, *all* such forms are destroyed. That's the specified behaviour: the first created form becomes Application.MainForm, and the program terminates when exactly that form is closed. No. The first form created by Application.CreateForm becomes the MainForm. Except for splash and mdi forms. I also tried Application.CreateForm, but that doesn't seem to do anything. Google has failed me, as well. What's my best option for this? Create forms with Form1:=TForm1.Create(Application); or: I'd keep a dummy MainForm hidden, and count the instances of the other forms. Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project Group support in the IDE
On Fr, 2013-09-13 at 14:11 +0200, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Fri, 13 Sep 2013, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2013-09-13 11:56, Mattias Gaertner wrote: No, it is not implemented yet. Thanks for the info. If you only want one window to easily switch the active project and using that to compile a bunch of projects, then yes, it is easy. Yup, that's all I want for Project Groups. Being able to quickly switch between related projects, do a build all projects in group [great for release day], re-order projects in the group, and do a build projects from here. All my projects tend to consist of 4+ executables, and the project I work the most on consists of 10+ executables. Doing manual building of projects one-by-one is so labour intensive - hence I have many build scripts. Maintaining those build scripts is a pain too. Same here. At least, having this window would be a very good start. The advanced features could follow later. Curiously asked: could a package and lazbuild be used for this task? I don't know if packages can handle bulding executables. Maybe it would be easy to extend it doing a lot less work than having to write a GUI and lazarus extension for it. If I'm doing releases having to start lazarus, finding and opening the project, setting some config values, would all be far to many actions. I really prefer using makefiles or something similar. Using lazbuild would have the advnatage of being able to have the makefiles holding anything needed (compiler switches, etc.) generated. Marc -- Marc Santhoff m.santh...@web.de -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
