Re: [Lazarus] netbook? running lazarus on android?
On 01/26/2013 11:56 PM, Andrew Brunner wrote: Ubuntu is building Arm editions. Have you explored the possibility of Ubuntu on any repurposed device like Samsung? Yeah, I could do ubuntu. Thanks for the suggestion! Thanks also to leledumbo for that clarification - sounds like I cannot rely on android at this time to be my working OS Andrew Brunner, Aurawin LLC 512.574.6298 http://aurawin.com/ Aurawin is great new way to store and share your pictures, videos, and more, featuring our innovative Pure Cloud social computing platform. On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:08 PM, David Emersondle...@angelbase.com wrote: I'm in the market for a netbook computer - you know, a low-cost, ultra-portable laptop. I want to use it as an on-the-go development computer (more for editing code, with the capability to compile, maybe slowly) One possibility is to get an android chromebook. Does fpc 2.6 + lazarus work on android? Another possibility is an OLPC XO. Thoughts? I was disappointed to discover that microsoft more or less killed the linux netbook market. I would really prefer to get a netbook with some sort of linux pre-installed, but I'd consider deleting windows and installing linux. As you can see I'm also considering running an android OS. But my first choice would be to get something I can install debian on. Thanks! ~David -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] netbook? running lazarus on android?
I'm in the market for a netbook computer - you know, a low-cost, ultra-portable laptop. I want to use it as an on-the-go development computer (more for editing code, with the capability to compile, maybe slowly) One possibility is to get an android chromebook. Does fpc 2.6 + lazarus work on android? Another possibility is an OLPC XO. Thoughts? I was disappointed to discover that microsoft more or less killed the linux netbook market. I would really prefer to get a netbook with some sort of linux pre-installed, but I'd consider deleting windows and installing linux. As you can see I'm also considering running an android OS. But my first choice would be to get something I can install debian on. Thanks! ~David -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] GDB - cannot perform pointer math on incomplete types
This error message has often befuddled me when debugging. I've got a dynamic array, usually a type that I've created, e.g. type longint_arr = array of longint I'm using the Watch List and want to inspect one of the elements of such an array, e.g. f_list[0]. But I get this error, which I guess comes from GDB. Is there any way I can coerce it into giving me f_list[0], or even f_list[1]? Thanks, David -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] GDB - cannot perform pointer math on incomplete types
Original Message From: Martin laza...@mfriebe.de On 04/12/2012 01:54, David Emerson wrote: This error message has often befuddled me when debugging. I've got a dynamic array, usually a type that I've created, e.g. type longint_arr = array of longint I'm using the Watch List and want to inspect one of the elements of such an array, e.g. f_list[0]. But I get this error, which I guess comes from GDB. Is there any way I can coerce it into giving me f_list[0], or even f_list[1]? I would need a complete example Also Laz/fpc version... Sometimes this message appears, if you declare an array without a type name. So instead of type TMyArray = array of integer; var Foo: TMyArray; you do: var Foo: array of integer; If the type of the element is named, then do ^integer(Foo)[1] Nested Array ^^integer(Foo)[1][2] If it is a static array array[3..5] then the pointer type cast still starts at index 0 (so you must subtract the low bound from all indices) It may also happen with nested arrays, and (unnamed (inline in var declared) records) var Foo: array of record ... end; You may also try switching between stabs and dwarf (project options / /linking) Thanks much!! The first suggestion ^integer(foo)[1] works great! -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] GDB - cannot perform pointer math on incomplete types
Martin wrote: Still if you can get me the log + unit source ? because the IDE in many cases tries to work those out. So I wonder what happens behind the curtains... Hmm I am working on it ... can't really share the sources :( but I am trying to build a miniature version to reproduce it. In the meantime: The watch item I created looks like this: tsrl_ag_cp(f_ag).f_curve.f_cps.f_list[0] and after your suggestion, was fixed like this: ^pointer(tsrl_ag_cp(f_ag).f_curve.f_cps.f_list)[0] SELF is a class with field f_ag : tsrl_ag tsrl_ag_cp descends from tsrl_ag tsrl_ag_cp has field f_curve : tsrl_curve tsrl_curve has field f_cps : tsrl_ag_cp_list tsrl_ag_cp_list descends from t_ordered_ag_list t_ordered_ag_list = specialize gt_unsorted_pointer_list tsrl_ag generic gt_unsorted_pointer_list _class = class (t_unsorted_pointer_list) t_unsorted_pointer_list is a class with field f_list : ptr_array and type ptr_array = array of pointer So as you can see it is a little complicated :-) -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] GDB - cannot perform pointer math on incomplete types
Still if you can get me the log + unit source ?
because the IDE in many cases tries to work those out. So I wonder what
happens behind the curtains...
I just constructed this program, which allows me to reproduce the issue. I
put a breakpoint on the writeln.
Watch List items:
tsrl_ag_cp(cf.f_ag).f_curve.f_cps.f_list[0] -- gives GDB error
^tsrl_ag_cp(tsrl_ag_cp(cf.f_ag).f_curve.f_cps.f_list)[0] -- succeeds
I'll see how much of this I can cut out and still reproduce :)
program dumdum;
{$mode objfpc}
uses classes;
type
ptr_array = array of pointer;
tsrl_ag = class (tobject);
t_list_frame = class (tobject)
f_list : ptr_array;
end;
t_unsorted_pointer_list = class (t_list_frame)
procedure add (p : pointer);
end;
generic gt_unsorted_pointer_list _class = class
(t_unsorted_pointer_list)
end;
t_ordered_ag_list = specialize gt_unsorted_pointer_list tsrl_ag;
tsrl_ag_cp_list = class (t_ordered_ag_list);
tsrl_shape = class
f_ag : tsrl_ag;
end;
tsrl_crowsfoot_icon = tsrl_shape;
tsrl_curve = class (tsrl_shape)
f_cps : tsrl_ag_cp_list;
end;
tsrl_ag_cp = class (tsrl_ag)
f_curve : tsrl_curve;
end;
procedure t_unsorted_pointer_list.add (p : pointer);
var l : longint;
begin
l := length(f_list);
setlength (f_list, l+1);
f_list[l] := p;
end;
var
cf : tsrl_crowsfoot_icon;
cf_ag, other_cp : tsrl_ag_cp;
curve : tsrl_curve;
begin
cf_ag := tsrl_ag_cp.create;
other_cp := tsrl_ag_cp.create;
curve := tsrl_curve.create;
curve.f_cps := tsrl_ag_cp_list.create;
curve.f_cps.add(other_cp);
curve.f_cps.add(cf_ag);
cf_ag.f_curve := curve;
cf := tsrl_crowsfoot_icon.create;
cf.f_ag := cf_ag;
writeln ('hi');
end.
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Re: [Lazarus] Major flaw with trunk and unit cases
On Fri 4 Nov 2011, Andrew Brunner wrote: Updated to todays Lazarus from svn/trunk and started work... Only to have my entire project build folder nuked by DoOpenEditorFile fixing case routine... /Developer/Source/Linux/64 was transformed into a binary file and wiped out all sub folders. I had to rm 64 and restore :-( This has happened to me several times. When it does, I find that lazarus creates a folder called backups and moves my entire project directory over there. I am using the following version (via Graeme's git repo): git-svn-id: http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk@32710 4005530d-fff6-0310-9dd1-cebe43e6787f I've observed it occurring when I am debugging an error, and I click on the call stack to access a file for which I don't have the source unit. Then the source editor shows ... I don't remember, maybe it's a binary, or assembler, or something-- I can't recall. Anyway, the style is wrong: the source editor is not using my fonts and colors. Then it crashes and my source folder is replaced by a binary, and the source folder moved to the backups folder (thank God for that!) ~David. Ubuntu 11.10 x64 running Gnome3 shell Please fix asp !!! dbmUserStorage.pas(2216,12) Error: identifier idents no member cntEncoding 2300 178.311/182.624 Kb Used dbmUserStorage.pas(2394,3) Fatal: Syntax error, ; expected but ELSE found TMainIDE.DoOpenEditorFile Fixing file case: /Developer/Source/Builds/SCS/Linux/64/ - /Developer/Source/Builds/SCS/Linux/64 ### TCodeToolManager.HandleException: identifier not found: MainP at Line=2131 Col=3 in /Developer/Source/Projects/SCS/Stored/dbmUserStorage.pas ### TCodeToolManager.HandleException: identifier not found: PMime at Line=2131 Col=9 in /Developer/Source/Projects/SCS/Stored/dbmUserStorage.pas TApplication.HandleException Unable to create file /Developer/Source/Builds/SCS/Linux/64/Console.ico Stack trace: $007FE3A2 line 546 of ../objpas/classes/streams.inc $0105C80B line 191 of projecticon.pas $0105C22F line 130 of projecticon.pas $00BD72F5 line 375 of projectresources.pas $00BD7AA4 line 497 of projectresources.pas $00DDC9AF line 1360 of buildmanager.pas $007BD1E5 line 10672 of main.pp $007C30A2 line 11922 of main.pp $007C0344 line 11325 of main.pp $007C17F2 line 11605 of main.pp $0079B904 line 3251 of main.pp $00CDA75E line 7058 of sourceeditor.pp $00CC9F63 line 3122 of sourceeditor.pp $00ED796D line 6735 of synedit.pp $00ED52E7 line 6105 of synedit.pp $00EC9005 line 2436 of synedit.pp $0094A40B line 5501 of include/wincontrol.inc [TMainIDE.Destroy] A WARNING: TLCLComponent.Destroy with LCLRefCount0. Hint: Maybe the component is processing an event? [TMainIDE.Destroy] B - inherited Destroy... TMainIDE [TMainIDE.Destroy] END -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Major flaw with trunk and unit cases
Reproduced again, and took a screenshot. I get a standard dialog, Debugger Exception Notification for an exception that I have raised in my program. Looking at the call stack, the top line (index 0) shows for the source what looks like a memory address; Line 0; function fpc_raiseexception Then I double-click that line to bring it up in the source window. The source window shows binary garbage, and the name of the tab is saralatools -- also the name of my project folder. The source (garbage) mutates when selecting and moving the cursor around. Stop the debugger, exit lazarus, and SAVE the project-- if I don't save, that binary garbage is discarded; if I do save, it replaces my project folder. Here is a screenshot: http://david9.freepgs.com/i/callstack2.png I have an unusual color scheme, and usually my source editor has the same scheme, but when bringing up this weird thing, it abandons that scheme. You can see the selected tab (far right) has a slightly lighter color. ~David. On Sat 5 Nov 2011, David Emerson wrote: On Fri 4 Nov 2011, Andrew Brunner wrote: Updated to todays Lazarus from svn/trunk and started work... Only to have my entire project build folder nuked by DoOpenEditorFile fixing case routine... /Developer/Source/Linux/64 was transformed into a binary file and wiped out all sub folders. I had to rm 64 and restore :-( This has happened to me several times. When it does, I find that lazarus creates a folder called backups and moves my entire project directory over there. I am using the following version (via Graeme's git repo): git-svn-id: http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk@32710 4005530d-fff6-0310-9dd1-cebe43e6787f I've observed it occurring when I am debugging an error, and I click on the call stack to access a file for which I don't have the source unit. Then the source editor shows ... I don't remember, maybe it's a binary, or assembler, or something-- I can't recall. Anyway, the style is wrong: the source editor is not using my fonts and colors. Then it crashes and my source folder is replaced by a binary, and the source folder moved to the backups folder (thank God for that!) ~David. Ubuntu 11.10 x64 running Gnome3 shell Please fix asp !!! dbmUserStorage.pas(2216,12) Error: identifier idents no member cntEncoding 2300 178.311/182.624 Kb Used dbmUserStorage.pas(2394,3) Fatal: Syntax error, ; expected but ELSE found TMainIDE.DoOpenEditorFile Fixing file case: /Developer/Source/Builds/SCS/Linux/64/ - /Developer/Source/Builds/SCS/Linux/64 ### TCodeToolManager.HandleException: identifier not found: MainP at Line=2131 Col=3 in /Developer/Source/Projects/SCS/Stored/dbmUserStorage.pas ### TCodeToolManager.HandleException: identifier not found: PMime at Line=2131 Col=9 in /Developer/Source/Projects/SCS/Stored/dbmUserStorage.pas TApplication.HandleException Unable to create file /Developer/Source/Builds/SCS/Linux/64/Console.ico Stack trace: $007FE3A2 line 546 of ../objpas/classes/streams.inc $0105C80B line 191 of projecticon.pas $0105C22F line 130 of projecticon.pas $00BD72F5 line 375 of projectresources.pas $00BD7AA4 line 497 of projectresources.pas $00DDC9AF line 1360 of buildmanager.pas $007BD1E5 line 10672 of main.pp $007C30A2 line 11922 of main.pp $007C0344 line 11325 of main.pp $007C17F2 line 11605 of main.pp $0079B904 line 3251 of main.pp $00CDA75E line 7058 of sourceeditor.pp $00CC9F63 line 3122 of sourceeditor.pp $00ED796D line 6735 of synedit.pp $00ED52E7 line 6105 of synedit.pp $00EC9005 line 2436 of synedit.pp $0094A40B line 5501 of include/wincontrol.inc [TMainIDE.Destroy] A WARNING: TLCLComponent.Destroy with LCLRefCount0. Hint: Maybe the component is processing an event? [TMainIDE.Destroy] B - inherited Destroy... TMainIDE [TMainIDE.Destroy] END -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Can't find unit LCLProc
On Sat 5 Nov 2011, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:22:53 -0700 David Emerson dle...@angelbase.com wrote: I have a unit (sarala_text.pas) which is part of a package (sarala_tools) that uses the LCLProc unit. My package file lists LCLBase as a requirement I am able to compile the package from the package viewer I can ctrl+click on the unit name LCLProc and it takes me there I can ctrl+click on procedures defined in LCLProc and it takes me there But when I try to compile my project which uses lists sarala_tools (and LCLBase) as requirements, then Lazarus says it can't find unit LCLProc. Why? I recompiled fpc, with make clean all Then I recompiled lazarus, with make clean all What Lazarus version? git-svn-id: http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk@32710 4005530d-fff6-0310-9dd1-cebe43e6787f Have you tried Run / Clean up build files? I tried that, and I can compile/run my project. However, even when that is possible, I still cannot Build File -- then it gives me the error again. So maybe the problem is with Build File. ~David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Can't find unit LCLProc
On Sat 5 Nov 2011, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 10:50:04 -0700 David Emerson dle...@angelbase.com wrote: [...] git-svn-id: http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk@32710 4005530d-fff6-0310-9dd1-cebe43e6787f Maybe you should update. Recently a better clean up was implemented. I did so (to 33355) and the bug persists. Have you tried Run / Clean up build files? I tried that, and I can compile/run my project. Ok, so you probably had some bad ppu files lying around. I guess, although I hadn't actually tried to build the whole project previously, and even after that build file is still not working, which was the original source of trouble. However, even when that is possible, I still cannot Build File -- then it gives me the error again. So maybe the problem is with Build File. What file do you want to compile and what are the parameters in Configure build+run file? I want to compile the file called sarala_text.pas which uses LCLProc (for utf8 string procs) Even directly after building and running the project, which uses sarala_text.pas, I still cannot build file for sarala_text.pas. One strange thing I am noticing is that the message window shows: /Docs/fpc/saralatools/sarala_text.pas(1,1) Fatal: Can't find unit LCLProc used by sarala_text Although the LCLProc uses statement is not until line 12. Configure build+run file... tab Options: neither is checked. tab Build: - working directory is blank - build command: $(CompPath) $(EdFile) - scan for FPC messages and Make messages are both checked - Macros: lots of stuff. tab Run: - always build before run is checked - working directory is blank - run command: $MakeExe($(EdFile)) - Macros: lots of stuff. I believe all of these are the defaults, I don't believe I've ever made any changes here. Thanks so much for your help, by the way! ~David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Can't find unit LCLProc
I have a unit (sarala_text.pas) which is part of a package (sarala_tools) that uses the LCLProc unit. My package file lists LCLBase as a requirement I am able to compile the package from the package viewer I can ctrl+click on the unit name LCLProc and it takes me there I can ctrl+click on procedures defined in LCLProc and it takes me there But when I try to compile my project which uses lists sarala_tools (and LCLBase) as requirements, then Lazarus says it can't find unit LCLProc. Why? sob I recompiled fpc, with make clean all Then I recompiled lazarus, with make clean all Still nothing. What do I have to do? Why is this so bloody difficult? I've spent 2 hours and I'm completely stuck, cannot proceed with work. Thanks for your guidance ~David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] package directory destroyed, replaced with executable of same name
So I just managed to get svn fpc and svn lazarus installed and running, yay!
now the bad news
I have a git repo (and lazarus package) called saralatools. I had just compiled
and run an example program that uses the package. Somehow lazarus crashed.
Now I see that my entire saralatools directory, containing the git repository
and all kinds of stuff, has mysteriously been deleted, and in its place is an
executable called saralatools. Poof! Gone.
It's not really an executable, it is just some GDB data (pasted at the bottom)
Here's a very odd thing: the file size is 4096 bytes, exactly the same size as
a
directory. And it has the same permissions as a directory. It's as if somehow
the filesystem received a directive to write to that (file/inode/directory/I
dunno what to call it) instead of writing to a file in that directory.
I'm restoring from backup (and getting out the file recovery tools) but... this
sucks :P
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{pc=0x080d2d49,line=188},{pc=0x080d2d62,line=189},
{pc=0x080d2e00,line=200},{pc=0x080d2e13,line=201},
{pc=0x080d2e3f,line=202},{pc=0x080d2e5e,line=203},{pc=0
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Re: [Lazarus] window classes according to WM
Thanks so much, Andrew. I couldn't possibly wish for a more concise and complete explanation; wish my own research had been as fruitful! Thanks to you, too, Martin. ~David. On Mon 12 Sep 2011, Andrew Haines wrote: On 09/12/11 21:59, David Emerson wrote: Hi all, What is the property that determines the window class, as seen by the WM / xorg? I'm asking for the purpose of grouping: I'd like to be able to have distinct groups of windows that the WM will group independently of one another. As an example, looking at the easter/holydays example, if I use KDE3's edit window-specific settings dialog I can detect window properties. It shows me Class: Holyday (holyday Holyday) and some other stuff. My assumption is that the class is used by the WM to determine which windows are grouped together. The real reason I'm asking is that in fpgui, the class is undefined and I'd like to find out how it's done in lazarus, where it IS defined. Cheers, David. Lazarus uses other toolkits in linux (gtk, qt) which set these hints already. So no special steps are done with lazarus to set the windows class. The toolkit does it for us. You can set the class on a window using the Xlib function XAllocClassHint Here's the manual page for this function http://www.xfree86.org/current/XAllocClassHint.3.html see especially http://www.xfree86.org/current/XAllocClassHint.3.html#toc5 The first param is the program name and the second is the class name you want. Lastly here's a c example of it's use http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/tree/gdk/x11/gdkwindow-x11.c#n834 You have to set the class just after the XWindow is created and before it is shown. Regards, Andrew PS I found all this searching google for: x11 window class grouping -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] window classes according to WM
Hi all, What is the property that determines the window class, as seen by the WM / xorg? I'm asking for the purpose of grouping: I'd like to be able to have distinct groups of windows that the WM will group independently of one another. As an example, looking at the easter/holydays example, if I use KDE3's edit window-specific settings dialog I can detect window properties. It shows me Class: Holyday (holyday Holyday) and some other stuff. My assumption is that the class is used by the WM to determine which windows are grouped together. The real reason I'm asking is that in fpgui, the class is undefined and I'd like to find out how it's done in lazarus, where it IS defined. Cheers, David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Status of GDB and Lazarus/FPC debugging threaded apps
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Re: [Lazarus] Status of GDB and Lazarus/FPC debugging threaded apps
On Mon 10 Jan 2011, Joost van der Sluis wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 10:19 -0600, Andrew Brunner wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Joost van der Sluis jo...@cnoc.nl wrote: What happens if you kill Lazarus/gdb/your application when the desktop freezes? Do you really have to restart gdm? Most of the times, nothing but ctrl+alt+f2 responds. The entire desktop goes into a halted state. Yes, but then you have a new terminal, in which you can kill your application/lazarus gdb. (try killall -9 gdb) That probably restores your desktop responsibility. No no no. Don't use kill -9. It doesn't give the process a chance to cleanly: 1) shut down socket connections 2) clean up temp files 3) inform its children that it is going away 4) reset its terminal characteristics and so on and so on and so on. Generally, send 15, and wait a second or two, and if that doesn't work, send 2, and if that doesn't work, send 1. Don't use kill -9. Don't bring out the combine harvester just to tidy up the flower pot. from http://partmaps.org/era/unix/award.html#uuk9letter As for killall... http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ProcessManagement#How_do_I_kill_a_process_by_name.3F__I_need_to_get_the_PID_out_of_ps_aux_.7C_grep_ http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ProcessManagement#line-81 Other times the entire laptop hangs and I have to hold the power button down. Most often it is also possible to use ssh to connect to the machine and kill some processes. Joost. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] invisible break points??
Thanks a lot for the tip, Graeme. Martin: I'm planning to look into it when I get back to that project where the error is occurring. Thanks for your help as well! Cheers, David On Thu 6 Jan 2011, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Op 2011-01-06 22:51, David Emerson het geskryf: Has anyone else seen anything like this? Yes I have. I have noticed something like that too... when my apps run via the IDE (which I hardly ever do anymore) they break for no reason. I have looked into it (at the time), and it seems that if you set a breakpoint in the IDE and save the project. Then modify your code so the line at which the breakpoint was, is not source code any more (eg: a blank line or a comment), the app still breaks at a point close to the original breakpoint, but the IDE doesn't show it as a breakpoint (no red dot, and not breakpoint listing in the breakpoints window). I had to delete the breakpoint entry in the XML stored in that projects info file manually to resolve the problem. As I said, this was with Lazarus dated 2010-11-09. I haven't tried to reproduce with a newer version yet. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] invisible break points??
I'm attaching some debug output. One of the logs was an execution with no
breakpoints (view debug info breakpoints list is empty; also the lpi file
has no breakpoints) and in the other execution I created one breakpoint.
In the execution with no breakpoints, everything went smoothly.
In the execution with the one breakpoint, the program stopped at debug log line
186,
*stopped,reason=breakpoint-hit,bkptno=38, [...]
(gdb)
However, when I say the program stopped, lazarus did not behave as if it had
encountered a breakpoint. The lazarus main and source windows did not raise; in
the source editor, the line with the breakpoint is marked with a red highlight
and checkmark, not with a blue highlight and arrow. Pressing F9 (while focused
on the source window) has no effect whatsoever. The call stack window is empty,
and the gdb debug output window does not show any stack info, either.
I clicked on the breakpoint line in the source editor, and pressed F5 to remove
the breakpoint. The gdb window shows:
-break-delete 38
^done
(gdb)
However the program is still not moving.
So at this point, I put the same breakpoint back in. The gdb window shows:
-break-insert -f ab_fpgui_types_unit.inc:230
^done,bkpt={number=39,type=breakpoint,disp=keep,enabled=y,addr=0x08073656,func=T_COMMAND_WINDOW__DO_MY_THING_BUTTON_PRESS,file=ab_fpgui_types_unit.inc,fullname=/ab/Pascal/ab_fpgui_types_unit.inc,line=230,times=0}
(gdb)
-break-enable 39
^done
(gdb)
-exec-continue
^running
(gdb)
*stopped,reason=signal-received,signal-name=SIGINT,signal-meaning=Interrupt,thread-id=1,frame={addr=0x08073656,func=T_COMMAND_WINDOW__DO_MY_THING_BUTTON_PRESS,args=[{name=SENDER,value=0xb76998e0},
{name=this,value=0xb7861f10}],file=ab_fpgui_types_unit.inc,fullname=/ab/Pascal/ab_fpgui_types_unit.inc,line=230}
(gdb)
-stack-info-depth
[...] and all the rest.
Martin wrote:
You mean your app forks a new process (or executes another app as new
process)?
No, it's just a procedure call.
version of gdb?
GNU gdb 6.8-debian
Also start Lazarus from console, and watch for any output of the IDE. It
may report something there
Yes, it does give this interesting output when the program myteriously stops:
ERROR: Got NO stop params at all, but was running
32 or 64 bit? or maybe a mix? 64 bit system, but running 32bit apps?
32 everything
An other issue is that if you open 2 independent copies of the same file
(via different sym links) you may be able to irritate the IDE, and the
breakpoint may be in the one copy, the execution mark in the other...
This *is* extremely annoying, actually -- the IDE often opens up multiple
copies
of the same (symlinked) source all on its own. Not at all sure why it does
this, but it's very irritating. However, in this case, I made sure no copies
were open; and even if there were, F9 should resume execution.
I guess I'll report this on Mantis, now that there's presumably enough info to
do so.
Any idea how to clean my project, so it doesn't do this? Perhaps I just need
to create a new project from scratch? Or delete the project.compiled file, or
something? I'll play around.
Cheers,
David
debug-logs-bp-prob.tgz
Description: application/tgz
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Re: [Lazarus] invisible break points??
Martin wrote: Hm, I guess part of the problem is that console output of the application does not work well with gdb. It seems to mix with the gdb output the msgs from gdb goes on the same line, as the app's output. There is nothing the IDE can do, it has no chance of identifying the gdb output, or knowing there was a breakpoint... yeah. next time I test this I'll see if I can suppress output. see http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=12172 I haven't looked at this issue further, not sure if there are updates or when there will be. (I know not the news anyone wants to hear; but it seems it's a bug that will take a while to fix / we are unfortunately bound to gdb, there isn't any better solution yet) I did try the run parameter: logfile ...a basic redirect. And it worked! program output was redirected to the file, and gdb info was seen in the debug output window. Unfortunately, the buffer doesn't get flushed until the program exits, so the usefulness is limited, but certainly better than none, as I had before. Then I tried to make it a named pipe: mkfifo logfile. The program stalls until something is listening at the other end of the pipe. So cat logfile on my terminal allowed the program to continue executing. Unfortunately, the output doesn't come in real time-- even with the named pipe, it seems only to flush after the program exits normally. In fact, if I use ctrl-f2 in lazarus to abort, the buffer is never flushed, and cat logfile exits with no output (except I guess an EOF I don't see) IIRC you are using a very recent Lazarus 0.9.29-0-20101231 So at this point, I put the same breakpoint back in. The gdb window shows: Have you tried, if you can F9 after that, and continue? yes, once I remove the breakpoint and put it back in, the program functions more or less normally. the symlinked files may come from old lpi/lps files ... either in project file or in ~/.lazarus/projectsessions the IDE did have issues creating some invalid pathes, but the ones I knew of have been fixed (but pathes in lpi/lps would remain) I created a fresh project, and got rid of some old cruft. So we'll see if things work more smoothly from here on out. As for the breakpoint error, even creating the new project file did not eliminate the problem. After that, I fudged around a bit deleting files here and there, and the problem eventually disappeared. I'll have to get my brother's files again in order to re Well it is already on mantis. the symlink bug or the breakpoint problem? Thanks so much, Martin ~David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] invisible break points??
Pew (piffle.the.cat) wrote: let's actually try helping the OP, Martin. Hey, that's not necessary, man; Martin is very helpful, and I have solved the problem -- or at least I have a very effective workaround -- thanks to his troubleshooting. In fact I think I'm going to post it as a note to that console output mantis bug. Martin, please post the procedure up to the point where the code stops. And under the list where it stops paste the error message from the View / Messages window and some ^^^ to point to the code. That will help. Also, try to set a breakpoint one line BEFORE where you have the breakpoint set, as I believe that this is most likely the line where you code is crashing. The press F7 to step into the code and see what is going on. That way you will be able to watch what is really going on. This is all utterly irrelevant. Good luck and happy debugging. All of this talk about how the debugger works is not helping Martin, who only has one breakpoint set. Yes it is. The problem is that the debugger is not working properly!! The solution is to redirect the program's writeln output, via the Run Parameters dialog. Using a simple posix-style redirect: writeln.log Cheers, David -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] invisible break points??
I am having a very strange and frustrating experience with lazarus, in my fpGUI app. When running, after pressing a button in my app which calls a process, the app seems to freeze up. It just sits there, unresponsive. My program has no breakpoints in it. The only way I can get it to move is by *adding* a breakpoint, somewhere within the code that it is waiting to execute. Then it stops at that breakpoint. I can remove the breakpoint, tell it to run, and it continues on its merry way. If my program *does* have breakpoints in it, it will not get to them. Lazarus seems to need to have a breakpoint *added* into the code, *during* the run, before it will proceed. I'm only seeing this with one project. Within that project it is intermittent. Has anyone else seen anything like this? I guess I'd better report it on mantis... version 0.9.29-0-20101231, from debian packages on freepascal.hu i386-linux-gtk 2 Cheers, David -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Is there a tool to list all the string literals in your application?
I am interested in one that parses the source code rather than the
executable.
Can some development related utility find all the string literals and print
out their line numbers?
sed -n /'/= source.pas
sed -n /'/{=;p} source.pas
sed -n /'/{=;s/[^']*\('[^']*'\)[^']*/||| \1 /gp} source.pas
I could go on and on...
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html
Have fun. Sed is like the antithesis of elegance.
~David.
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Re: [Lazarus] new class dependency map generated
reminds me of this old article: http://web.archive.org/web/20060615055607/http://blogs.zdnet.com/threatchaos/?p=311 A graphical comparison of system calls for a simple page load in apache vs IIS. On Tue 4 Jan 2011, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Hi, I just generated a new class dependency map of the RTL and LCL. It gives a nice overview of the relationships and explains a lot of the details. I shared it online. Hopefully somebody else can also find some use out of it. http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7504/tes0001.jpg :-) Not really, I just thought it was very funny. It originated from the Daily WTF website: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Enterprise-Dependency.aspx Regards, - Graeme - -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] That pesky LazarusPackageIntf
I have had this problem on several different occasions now, and each time it seems to cost me an hour -- sometimes many -- of banging my head against a wall. Despite my repeated attempts to discover a consistent way to resolve it, it remains elusive. The problem is this: /Docs/fpc/saralatools/Extras/sarala_tools.pas(1,1) Fatal: Can't find unit LazarusPackageIntf used by sarala_tools The best part, of course, is that I don't think my sarala_tools package ought to be using LazarusPackageIntf at all. The fpgui_toolkit package does not list it as a requirement, and that package file works fine (in fact I use it as a requirement). So I go and delete LazarusPackageIntf from the uses list. But when I try to compile the package file, Lazarus PUTS THE REQUIREMENT BACK IN! And then it cannot find the thing it put in! Totally absurd! Aside from the question of what did I do to make it want this requirement, my real question is how on earth can I consistently resolve this issue? It seems to pop up at some point after upgrading lazarus (I upgraded to the 0.9.29 fixes branch from the ubuntu repo roday). But the problem did not surface for a few hours after that. Then all of a sudden the problem appeared, and that means I cannot compile my project at all. Productive work grinds to a complete halt for an hour and a half, while I pull my hair out trying to figure out how to make the thing work again: by reinstalling, removing my ~/.lazarus folder, checking paths in /etc/fpc.cfg, whatever nonsense thing might somehow be related. And then, after I do something which I've already done 4 times before, seemingly by magic, it just starts working again. Does anybody know what is behind this? thanks -- sorry for being ranty -- hopefully it was at least a little bit fun to read! ~David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] That pesky LazarusPackageIntf
Thanks very much for your reply! I am using the debian installation packages in the testing repo, described here: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_release_version_for_Ubuntu#Long_version:_step_by_step (thanks, Vincent!!) I notice that you mention LCL, and now that you mention it, it is ringing a bell. I think last night that things started working after I resolved an installation dependency conflict with two of the LCL installation packages. Might this have been the cause? If some LCL components were not installed properly, that could cause a problem with LazarusPackageIntf? Cheers, David On Mon 3 Jan 2011, José Mejuto wrote: Hello Lazarus-List, Monday, January 3, 2011, 11:02:15 AM, you wrote: DE Does anybody know what is behind this? DE thanks -- sorry for being ranty -- hopefully it was at least a little bit fun to DE read! If I'm not wrong this package is the code that glues the IDE and the components in a package so it is logical that is needed by a package as a requirement. The problem arises when you change something in the code that is being used by the lazaruspackageintf and meanwhile you change the code generator (fpc). So a typical example, you update your fpc and change something in your package, so it must be recompiled but the linker can not link the lazaruspackageintf because it was generated by an older fpc. The direct solution is going to rebuild lazarus and select the rebuild of lcl, package registration, ide interface and IDE. Usually the clean and build is not needed, so it should happend fast. You can try to only rebuild package registration. -- Best regards, José -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] That pesky LazarusPackageIntf
Yes, specially if you mix different versions/revisions. As noted, I'm using the debian packages... I'm quite hopeful that they would be close enough to the same version to work together... Usually this kind of problems are resolved with a full rebuild, cleaning files. Instead searching for the exactly root of the problem, full rebuild and voilà! You make it sound so easy, but I struggled for hours to get my fully-rebuilt lazarus-from-svn to work properly. I ultimately gave up and reverted to the debian packages, which work much more easily. Cheers, David -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] No FPC sources on lazarus start....
Sounds like you installed the compiler part, but not the fpc sources. Try here: http://www.freepascal.org/down/source/sources.var On Mon 3 Jan 2011, Bo Berglund wrote: I installed FPC on Win XP-Pro from the 2.4.2 installer. Then I retrieved the lazarus sources from SVN. Then I did make clean all for lazarus. All this worked OK. But now when I start lazarus it complains about missing fpc sources and it looks like the fpc 2.4.2 does indeed *not* deposit any source files... At least I cannot find any in the dir I installed FPC into. All subfolders there are: bin demo doc examples msg units (which does not contain the sources) So no source folder. :-( What can I do now? -- Bo Berglund Developer in Sweden -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] console output
thanks, Martin probably Run menu: Run params, launcher application But: http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=7867 http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=12172 Under windows you can compile your application with -WC (actually uncheck -WC Gui App on the linker page) You may also google debugserver. not sure, but there is some support somewhere IIRC... Martin -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] console output
Hi list, While upgrading, I wiped out my .lazarus folder, and upon getting started again was charmed to see this xterm window that popped up during execution and showed me all the console output. It was great!!! However I hadn't configured the debugger yet; and when I did that, the xterm window disappeared! How can I get that wonderful xterm window back up while the debugger is in use? writeln is such a handy way to output information during execution which can be difficult to access or to see all at once using lazarus Thanks, David -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] horizontal scrolling in gtk2
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[Lazarus] open pas file from command line
Hi there, Suppose I have a lazarus source editor open. I would like to, from my command line shell, issue a command to open a new source in the already-open source editor. Is this possible? Why? If I have a shell open in a directory, it's very quick to tab-complete a file within a directory. It's nice to be able to issue a quick command to open that file in my editor, rather than using the cumbersome gui file selection interface. I've written scripts to do this with a few other apps, but it requires support from the app in question. Thanks, David -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] debian packages now have testing/unstable requirements
Mattias Gaertner wrote: David Emerson wrote: lazarus packages at hu.freepascal.org are now requiring libatk 1.29.3 (or greater) whereas debian stable has 1.22 AFAIK the libatk dependency is automatically setup by the dpkg tool using the version of the building machine. I asked on oftc's #debian-devel and the advice was to use pbuilder and set up a different environment there to build inside. It sounds like the deb creation process could use some refinement. I don't have much experience here but would be happy to do some research and see if I can assist in the process. I see there is a creation script here: http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk/tools/install/create_lazarus_deb.sh Vincent previously mentioned he maintained the repo at hu.freepascal. I am not sure if this is the same script that Vincent runs to create debs. I notice that it has gtk stuff hardcoded in, however from what I can see it appears that this script is only making one .deb rather than several. Mattias, Vincent, is there anything I can do to assist you guys in cleaning up the deb packages? One thing I can definitely offer is refinement of bash scripts. Ugly things, but I've learned that bastard of a language decently, for some reason. Cheers, David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] debian packages now have testing/unstable requirements
Vincent Snijders wrote: David Emerson schreef: I asked on oftc's #debian-devel and the advice was to use pbuilder and set up a different environment there to build inside. Clear instructions how to accompplish that would be welcome, kind of like the how to setup a ubuntu repo on the wiki. I'll see what I can find. I am thinking that the best thing for me to do would be to see if I can replicate the build process you are performing right now, and then see what can be done differently. Would it be possible for you to send me a copy of the scripts that you use for the deb building process? I could also set up a machine (real or virtual) with sid and work on this issue. Currently (snapshot) debs are build using make deb in a debian-sid chroot on a ubuntu 9.10 virtual machine. Previously it was done on plain ubuntu 9.10 virtual, but then there were some problems with dependencies of the gtk2 libs. They were set too high. debian-sid has the advantage, that at least fpc is up to date. Do other debian versions have 2.4.0 already? No, stable has 2.2.4. For this reason I access the sid repos for fpc only. Cheers, David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] debian packages now have testing/unstable requirements
Hey y'all, I'm disappointed to discover that the lazarus packages at hu.freepascal.org are now requiring libatk 1.29.3 (or greater) whereas debian stable has 1.22 What's the status on this? Is there any chance that this requirement might be relaxed in the future? I tried installing lazarus-ide-qt, but the lazarus-ide package still seems to have a bunch of gtk requirements. Perhaps the lazarus-ide package needs to be cleaned up? Maybe I need to start using svn now, in order to avoid some of these library dependencies? Thanks, David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] scripting lazarus commands from external programs
Mattias Gaertner wrote: David wrote: I see that in KDE I can drag-n-drop files from konqueror onto the lazarus source editor. What I'd really like to do is drop a file into the source editor from the command line (of an xterm). How would I go about doing so? Select the text in the xterm, then middle click in the source editor. When I do this, the name of the selected file is pasted into the open source. Any mouse-free method? As a workaround, I'm trying to figure out how to create an XDND event from the command-line ... but ... there must be a better way! Cheers, David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] scripting lazarus commands from external programs
I see that in KDE I can drag-n-drop files from konqueror onto the lazarus source editor. What I'd really like to do is drop a file into the source editor from the command line (of an xterm). How would I go about doing so? Thanks, David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Newcomers with Debian based systems
It also should work for other systems. Some time ago I could install Lazarus from RPM's on openSuse, so why not on Ubuntu from DEB packages? I've been using fpc and debian stable for several years now. I used to download the debs from the freepascal website because the debian stable repo didn't have them. Then fpc made it into debian stable and I used that for a while. Then I wanted an up-to-date version so I switched to the debian unstable repo just for free pascal, and I still use that. Nowadays I use the hu.freepascal.org repo for lazarus, although I've been considering going svn on that one. Hasn't happened yet. You can add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/ lazarus-stable universe Unfortunately the hu.fpc repo doesn't have fpc 2.4 yet; only fpc 2.2.4 -- but if you're happy with 2.2.4 for now then go for it, this is probably your best solution. One time there was a bug in the declared package dependencies so I couldn't upgrade properly, but it got fixed after not too long. I'm not sure what the state of ubuntu's repos are wrt fpc, but debian's unstable repo keeps up to date fairly well. It's usually not long after a new fpc version announcement that it becomes available on debian unstable. I would expect the ubuntu repo to keep fairly up to date as well but I don't really know what they do. ~David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] floating point mask
David Emerson wrote:
at first I overlooked e+ which is valid for val (string, real)
Alexander Klenin wrote:
No, it is not:
Val('e+', x, d);
What I meant is that I first overlooked 'e' and '+' as valid characters
that can appear together within a string to be converted to a float.
The following compiles and works as expected:
var x : real;
begin
val ('4.1e+5', x); // e+ is valid for val (within context)
writeln (x);
end.
The point I was making was that if someone is going to make a floating
point mask (note the subject...) that one should be careful not to
exclude any valid characters if restricting input by character. I'm not
sure if the set I suggested ['-', '.', '0'..'9', 'e', 'E', '+'] is
complete.
Cheers,
~David.
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Re: [Lazarus] floating point mask
You can use any input component, and check e.g. in OnKeyPress whether the resulting string would be valid. If not, reject the input character. You can use any regex library for the check, but IMO that's overkill with a single constant format. In your case I'd use the conversion function itself, e.g. Val(), to determine whether the input is valid. This has the disadvantage of sometimes making it difficult to type things naturally. e.g. if I started by typing - that could be rejected, since I haven't yet input a number to make negative. For this reason I much prefer to have some kind of visible indication as to whether an input is presently valid: show the user whether their input is presently in a good state, but don't restrict the input in that way. One must do some validation later on, but that should probably be done anyway. Of course, if you have a set of all the valid characters ['-', '.', '0'..'9', 'e', 'E', '+'], it's not unreasonable to restrict characters outside that set. But make sure the set is complete-- at first I overlooked e+ which is valid for val (string, real) ~D. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] QT binding works!
Ah, now I've found it, and it is compiling! Thank you! Now, after many parts are successfully compiled, it is stumbling on the qt part. I'm getting about 250 messages like this: /usr/local/lib/libqt4intf.so: undefined reference to `QTabBar::moveTab(int, int)' (each message lists a different function) then Error while linking. any tips from here? Thanks, David On Mon 30 Nov 2009, Phil Hess wrote: David, I believe that refers to Environment | Options, then on the Environment Files tab, look for Lazarus directory. Thanks. -Phil - David Emerson dle...@angelbase.com wrote: I'm sorry for being so dense, but where are these Options? I have looked in Environment Options, Tools Configure Build Lazarus Options, Project Compiler Options ... maybe I missed it? Thanks! David On Tue 24 Nov 2009, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:12:16 -0800 David Emerson dle...@angelbase.com wrote: I also have an svn installation (actually git) and the same problem occurs there: make: Entering directory `/usr/lib/lazarus/0.9.28.2/lcl' I'm not sure why my svn version wants to go to /usr/lib ... maybe the problem is that I have both installed? Check Options / Paths / Lazarus source directory Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] QT binding works!
zeljko wrote: David Emerson wrote: qt part. I'm getting about 250 messages like this: /usr/local/lib/libqt4intf.so: undefined reference to `QTabBar::moveTab(int, int)' then Error while linking. Yes, you are using old libqt4intf.so and/or old qt libs. Read http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/Qt_Interface and you can download latest libqt4intf from http://users.telenet.be/Jan.Van.hijfte/qtforfpc/fpcqt4.html of course latest bindings works with = qt-4.5 (just tested released 4.6.0 and it works) :) I have libqt4intf.so.5.1.72 which I believe is the latest. However I also have libqt4 4.4.3 which is 4.5 mentioned on the libqt4intf page. So it looks like I would need to upgrade my qt4 libs into the world of debian testing/unstable, in order to compile laz with qt. This is not exactly comfortable, as I'm concerned that doing so could break my kde desktop and many apps. I wish I could have garnered that requirement by reading those pages. Though it does list the higher versions of qt4, it nowhere says that I would be required to install those versions of all qt4 libs. I am not sure how it ought to read, but my guess would be something like this: Version info The latest libqt4intf requires Qt = 4.5.2 V1.72: 21 Sep 2009: Improved signal hooking/method overriding, Windows:renamed types likes HDC to avoid name clashes V1.71: 15 Sep 2009: requires Qt = 4.5.2, WebKit improvements (qlclwebpage/qlclwebview/qlclnetworkcookie),qlclthread, versioning, lclwebkit demo sigh. Thanks for all your help! Maybe some time in the future I will be able to upgrade to qt lazarus. ~David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] QT binding works!
well, I took the dive and upgraded to the testing packages, and ... it works! Nice. Thanks a lot for all the help. Cheers, ~David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] trouble with packages~
On Mon 30 Nov 2009, Phil Hess wrote: David, Can you right click in the Message window (at bottom) and copy all messages to the clipboard, then send the last few lines here. I'm curious to see whether it's a checksum issue that I've been wrestling with. PPU Loading units/gamma_draw_unit.ppu PPU Source: gamma_draw_unit.pas not found Recompiling gamma_draw_unit, checksum changed for fpg_base gamma_draw_unit.pas(143,23) Fatal: Can't find unit gamma_draw_unit used by ab_db_access_unit Deleting all my old .o and .ppu files appears to have solved this problem (although I haven't gotten the program compiled yet because of code-breaking changes in my libraries... but it looks like it's not having trouble finding the units, as it was before) Thanks Graeme for that hint! ~David. Thanks. -Phil - David Emerson dle...@angelbase.com wrote: I have created a package called sarala_tools which I'm using in a couple projects. I've found it fun, interesting, and incredibly useful to create packages. All was working great for a while, but now one of my projects has decided that it cannot find one of the units that is part of the sarala_tools package. I can compile the package just fine from the open loaded package package sarala_tools window. When I create a new project that uses the package I don't see such a problem. I'm really not sure how to go about fixing my project. Any tips? Thanks, David -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] QT binding works!
I'm sorry for being so dense, but where are these Options? I have looked in Environment Options, Tools Configure Build Lazarus Options, Project Compiler Options ... maybe I missed it? Thanks! David On Tue 24 Nov 2009, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:12:16 -0800 David Emerson dle...@angelbase.com wrote: I also have an svn installation (actually git) and the same problem occurs there: make: Entering directory `/usr/lib/lazarus/0.9.28.2/lcl' I'm not sure why my svn version wants to go to /usr/lib ... maybe the problem is that I have both installed? Check Options / Paths / Lazarus source directory Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] trouble with packages
I have created a package called sarala_tools which I'm using in a couple projects. I've found it fun, interesting, and incredibly useful to create packages. All was working great for a while, but now one of my projects has decided that it cannot find one of the units that is part of the sarala_tools package. I can compile the package just fine from the open loaded package package sarala_tools window. When I create a new project that uses the package I don't see such a problem. I'm really not sure how to go about fixing my project. Any tips? Thanks, David -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] QT binding works!
I also have an svn installation (actually git) and the same problem occurs there: make: Entering directory `/usr/lib/lazarus/0.9.28.2/lcl' I'm not sure why my svn version wants to go to /usr/lib ... maybe the problem is that I have both installed? Thanks, David On Tue 24 Nov 2009, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:37:15 -0800 David Emerson dle...@angelbase.com wrote: Mattias Gaertner wrote: How did you install lazarus? debian packages on http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/ lazarus-stable The debian package can not recompile the LCL, codetools, synedit and IDEIntf. Use lazarus svn or copy the debian files /usr/lib/lazarus to your home folder, change owner recursively and set environment option lazarus source directory. The IDE first checks if the directory $(LazarusDir) is writable. If it is not writable it uses ~/.lazarus/bin/. Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] QT binding works!
Mattias Gaertner wrote: How did you install lazarus? debian packages on http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/ lazarus-stable The IDE first checks if the directory $(LazarusDir) is writable. If it is not writable it uses ~/.lazarus/bin/. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] QT binding works!
Mattias Gaertner wrote: The debug output window is for the debugger output. The above line is more likely in the 'Messages' window and you can right click it and do 'Save all messages to file'. Ah, thanks, wonderful -- I see now what the problem is: it is trying to build in the root-owned /usr/lib/lazarus instead of my user-owned /Docs/fpc/Lazarus/ or ~/.lazarus/ How can I set this up properly? Setting Target Directory seems to have no effect (and the wiki notes that this is for the IDE only, not other components). I've been looking around the wiki, but can't find anything that explains this. Thanks! ~David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] QT binding works!
Mattias Gaertner wrote: make[2]: *** [../../units/i386-linux/qt] Error 1 The important lines are in front of this message. Please send all the messages. This is the only message I see. The debug output window is empty. Perhaps I could get more info by compiling from the command line (as opposed to using build lazarus within lazarus) but I can't figure out how to get make clean all to use the qt widget set. I did install libqt4-dev (libqt4-core was already installed) but it hasn't made any difference. Thanks! ~David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] cross platform [Re: Lazarus Goal]
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Some quick examples were applications don't follow the look feel rules of the platform, yet users have no problems in using them. * Windows Media Player. * latest Microsoft Office with it's new menu+toolbar design * Pixel image editor. It fakes native look. But looking closer at it, it is quite different to native platforms, yet users don't seem to have any issue with using it. * And the biggest one of them all. The INTERNET. Websites and Web Applications like Gmail, Facebook etc... It adheres to NO single platform, yet billions of users use the internet every day and don't have problems using it. If you can read the screen, you can use the interface. I suspect these are the exceptions, rather than the rule. The vast majority of the time I am presented with a non-standard interface, I find it to be awkward and difficult to use, and it doesn't usually get any better from there. A few examples that come to mind: * anything by hp (printer/scanner software in particular) * non-standard installer programs (thinking of hp again) * vi * emacs * the earthlink totalaccess toolbar * almost any antivirus / antispyware program ...there are many others, but it's hard for me to think of them because I don't use them! The best broad example I can think of that may be in agreement with what you're suggesting is SymphonyOS and the Mezzo ui. I thought it was very cool when I first learned about it in 2006, but it looks like the project has been abandoned. I've got this MezzoGreyPaper.pdf here, but I can't find a working link to it. It's almost like it disappeared off the internet... very strange. Cheers, David -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] QT binding works!
I've done all this, but at the very beginning of the compilation, I get: make[2]: *** [../../units/i386-linux/qt] Error 1 and it gives up. Using debian stable, kde 3.5.9/10. Tried with the packaged lazarus 0.9.28.2-0 as well as svn $ /sbin/ldconfig -p | grep qt libqt4intf.so.5 (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libqt4intf.so.5 libqt4intf.so (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libqt4intf.so libqtmcop.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libqtmcop.so.1 libqt-mt.so.3 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 libdbus-qt-1.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libdbus-qt-1.so.1 libavahi-qt3.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libavahi-qt3.so.1 Cheers, David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] QT binding works!
Juha Manninen wrote: I compiled the whole Lazarus to use QT widgets and it works! Yes. I've been wanting to do the same, though I failed at my previous attempt. What did you do to make it work? Are there guidelines somewhere? What versions are you using? Thanks, David -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus debug issues
On Mon 9 Nov 2009, JoshyFun wrote: This could also happend when you do not full recompile the code and debug an .inc file, as this file may had not been recompiled at all because the .pas one was not modified. I believe this is alleviated when the inc file is properly added to the project or package, via the project inspector or package dialog. ~David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] debugger crashing
On Sat 7 Nov 2009, Marc Weustink wrote: Have a look at the debugger output dialog (View-debug windows-debug output). Tell us whats on the lines before it enters the error state. Marc Thanks for the tip, I solved it: the drive was mounted noexec, and the debug output noted permission denied on execute. ~David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] debugger crashing
I have lazarus installed on another development machine in addition to this one. I haven't used the other much lately, but I fired it up today, and upgraded to laz 0.9.28.2 Much to my chagrin I discovered that I keep getting these debugger has entered the error state messages, which prevent me from doing anything at all. I copied my config (the whole /home/david/.lazarus directory) from this computer, as well as /etc/lazarus/. Both are running debian stable (incl gdb 6.8-3) I'm also compiling/running the same source code on both machines. Any idea as to what the problem could be? Thanks, David -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] disable JEDI Code Format keymapping
I have tried and tried and tried, over and over and over again to disable this confounded JEDI Code Format Current Editor Window [Ctrl+D] (as it is shown in options editor key mappings) It seems like no matter what I do -- grab a key, assign it manually, edit the config ~/.lazarus/editoroptions.xml file (I have done each of these numerous times) -- the thing keeps getting reassigned to Ctrl+D. I don't want ctrl+d to destroy all of my tab formatting. I press it frequently, out of habit for comment. It scares the bejesus out of me every time. Thanks for any suggestions :) ~David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] blocking that pesky assembler window
Wow, thanks! For those of us who use stable packaged lazarus... I was able to use KDE's window-specific settings to Force Keep Below on the assembler window. Cheers, ~David. On Fri 30 Oct 2009, JoshyFun wrote: Hello Lazarus-List, Friday, October 30, 2009, 9:17:57 AM, you wrote: LAPC David Emerson escreveu: whenever a fatal error occurs in my programs, an assembler window pops up. I never use it, and I don't want to see it. I close it dozens (or hundreds) of times every day. How can I make it stop appearing? LAPC +1 Please check today commit about debugger. -- Best regards, JoshyFun -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] blocking that pesky assembler window
On Thu 29 Oct 2009, JoshyFun wrote: I'm quite sure this problem will be fixed soon (maybe this weekend). Assembler window is intented to appear only when no callstack information is available (no debug information), but currently it appears almost always. It is great to hear that this is on the radar! I would add that it would be nice to be able to disable the thing in all cases, even when there is no callstack info. Cheers, David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] more locals: variable values in sub-functions
On Tue 27 Oct 2009, Martin wrote: But all versions of lazarus can do it, using the stack window. In the stack window you can set the current frame to any stack-frame you want. The local-var window, the hint, and the watches window, will all follow this Thanks, Martin! Works beautifully, just what I needed. Cheers, David -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus .deb repos!
Anyone want to team up and set up a debian-style repository for fpc/lazarus? Read the bottom paragraph... On Tue 13 Oct 2009, Peter Williams wrote: My question is this: How can I get MintUpdate to update / upgrade Lazarus automatically -- I suppose using repositories. Is this possible or not?!? It is certainly theoretically possible, but it depends upon two things: 1. Someone has to package each new version for your distro 2. The package must be placed in a repository that you can access since ubuntu is based on debian, mintlinux has also inherited debian's excellent packaging system -- you use .deb's. It would seem that someone on the lazarus team already makes debian-style packages, so step 1 is done. That means it's relatively easy to go to the sourceforge site and download a lazarus deb and install it using dpkg -i. http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/files/ (click on Lazarus Linux i386 DEB (assuming you're on a 32-bit system) otherwise you'll want amd64 DEB) or use the direct link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/files/Lazarus%20Linux%20i386%20DEB/Lazarus%200.9.28/lazarus_0.9.28-0.i386.deb.tar/download There are three different ways of achieving step 2 (the automatic part of updating) (A) The lazarus deb might be in the mint linux distros (B) It might be in the repositories of another distro, e.g. ubuntu or debian (C) There could be a dedicated repo just for fpc/lazarus It sounds like (A) is not the case. As for (B) lazarus 0.9.28 is not yet in debian's unstable or experimental repos; I have no idea about ubuntu. Also beware of (B) because you wouldn't want to accidentally install other packages from another distro's repository, unless you really know what you are doing. These are the paths toward broken systems. (C) is a nice option, particularly for fpc/laz because it doesn't depend on much other system stuff and is not usually very version-specific when it does. I would love to see an fpc+laz debian repo, and would be happy to help set one up if someone has a server and bandwidth somewhere. I don't have much experience with this, but I do have a little -- I've set up a trivial repo, and wrote a script to update it and gpg-sign it when adding new packages. Cheers, ~David. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
