Re: [Lazarus] Fw: new message
On Sun, 8 May 2016 17:42:21 -0400, you wrote: >On 05/08/2016 03:43 PM, Lazarus mailing list <sascha.hesterm...@gmx.de> wrote: >> Hello! >> >> *You have a new message, please read* >> hxxp://thesafeandlockshop.co.uk/loud.php?lh >> >> Lazarus mailing list > >would an admin handle this infested account, please? > I'd suspect that the sender address is forged. Nothing that the alleged sender can do about it if so. Nuking their account seems a little harsh. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Humour
On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 16:20:37 +0200, you wrote: >On 4/19/16, brian <br...@meadows.pair.com> wrote: > >> Anybody still reading might find this amusing... I'd not seen it >> before. > >I find it quit impossible to read the subtitles and here them talk at >the same time. >(In fact it took me about 30 seconds to spot the discrepancy.) > Ah, sorry - my knowledge of German is so negligible that it didn't occur to me not to look for subtitles. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Humour
Anybody who thinks there should never be any reference made to Hitler and/or the Third Reich, please hit 'delete' now. Anybody still reading might find this amusing... I'd not seen it before. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDeG4S-mJts=RDMhllo1xQer8=4 Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus on my ancient computer?
On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 14:34:45 +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > >Alternatively, I run Debian "Lenny" with KDE on a number of machines of >that sort of spec. For later Debians consider XFCE irrespective of >system spec. > +1 from me on that one. My wife and I both run Debian (Wheezy on hers, Jessie on mine), and she insisted on trying both KDE and GNOME before she'd let me install XFCE on hers. The difference in responsiveness on her older PC now that I've persuaded her to use XFCE is truly phenomenal. You can always run some of the programs associated with the other desktops under XFCE if you need to, e.g. xfburn is quite a limited program when compared with K3b. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Debian (Sid): fpc 3.0.0+dfsg-2 cannot compile lazarus trunc
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 20:39:59 +0100, you wrote: >Am 01.02.2016 um 18:47 schrieb Mattias Gaertner: >> On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 18:20:59 +0100 >> John Landmesser <jmlandmes...@gmx.de> wrote: >> >> Is this the new FPC 3.0.0 from Debian unstable? >> >> Mattias >> > >yes it's from unstable ( sid ) I've seen a couple of Debian's fpc "upgrades" break Lazarus, but I'm running Jessie (stable). All I did to fix the problem was disallow upgrades to either Lazarus or fpc, and I download the .debs from SourceForge. I do also have an installation from getlazarus that's working just fine once someone sent me a replacement script, that's fpc 3.1.1 and Lazarus 1.7. Once again, though, this is Jessie, not sid. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Linux mint install
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 16:10:28 -0500, you wrote: Larry, Are you by any chance using the Debian version of Mint? It's a few versions ago, but I had all kinds of weird problems with Lazarus/FPC/LMDE, and after a few iterations with the LMDE users, I switched to plain old Debian, and things have worked just fine since then. If you're using the Ubuntu-based Mint, then forget all the above, that used to work OK. Brian. I have tried to remove the default lazarus install with the following commands: sudo apt-get purge fpc lazarus sudo rm -Rf /usr/lib/fpc sudo rm -Rf /usr/lib/lazarussudo rm -Rf /usr/share/fpcsr sudo rm -f ~/.fpcsudo rm -Rf ~/.lazarus, then downloaded lazarus_1.4.2-0amd64.deb. Then I get the following output: dpkg: regarding fpc_2.6.2-0_i386.deb containing fpc, pre-dependency problem: fpc pre-depends on binutils dpkg: error processing archive fpc_2.6.2-0_i386.deb (--install): pre-dependency problem - not installing fpc (Reading database ... 220087 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb ... Unpacking google-chrome-stable (43.0.2357.134-1) over (43.0.2357.134-1) ... Selecting previously unselected package lazarus. Preparing to unpack lazarus_1.4.2-0_amd64.deb ... Unpacking lazarus (1.4.2) ... Setting up google-chrome-stable (43.0.2357.134-1) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of lazarus: lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-compiler (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Version of fp-compiler on system is 2.6.2-8. lazarus depends on fpc-src (= 2.6.4) | fpc-source (= 2.6.4); however: Version of fpc-source on system is 2.6.2-8. lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-ide (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Package fp-ide is not installed. lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-units-base (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Package fp-units-base is not installed. lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-units-db (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Package fp-units-db is not installed. lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-units-fcl (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Package fp-units-fcl is not installed. lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-units-fv (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Package fp-units-fv is not instal dpkg: error processing package lazarus (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Processing triggers for mime-support (3.54ubuntu1.1) ... Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.22-1ubuntu1) ... Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1ubuntu1) ... Processing triggers for shared-mime-info (1.2-0ubuntu3) ... Unknown media type in type 'all/all' Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu' Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm' Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspt' Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu' Errors were encountered while processing: fpc_2.6.2-0_i386.deb lazarus On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: On 2015-07-24 17:45, Larry Dalton wrote: What am I doing wrong? No idea, but may I suggest you rather download the *.tar file instead. It is a console based installer created by the FPC team. I've used it for years on Linux and FreeBSD, and never had any problems. I can also install it to any directory (I normally choose $HOME/devel/fpc/), instead if /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin/. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Linux mint install
Fri, 24 Jul 2015 16:10:28 -0500, you wrote: I have tried to remove the default lazarus install with the following commands: As regards your error message, it seems to be complaining about binutils not being installed. Have you tried installing the package? Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Linux mint install
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 17:12:06 -0500, you wrote: Using linux mint 17.1 Rebecca OK, scratch the comment about LMDE (I assume what you're using is the Ubuntu-based version?). Brian. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2015, at 16:26, brian br...@meadows.pair.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 16:10:28 -0500, you wrote: Larry, Are you by any chance using the Debian version of Mint? It's a few versions ago, but I had all kinds of weird problems with Lazarus/FPC/LMDE, and after a few iterations with the LMDE users, I switched to plain old Debian, and things have worked just fine since then. If you're using the Ubuntu-based Mint, then forget all the above, that used to work OK. Brian. I have tried to remove the default lazarus install with the following commands: sudo apt-get purge fpc lazarus sudo rm -Rf /usr/lib/fpc sudo rm -Rf /usr/lib/lazarussudo rm -Rf /usr/share/fpcsr sudo rm -f ~/.fpcsudo rm -Rf ~/.lazarus, then downloaded lazarus_1.4.2-0amd64.deb. Then I get the following output: dpkg: regarding fpc_2.6.2-0_i386.deb containing fpc, pre-dependency problem: fpc pre-depends on binutils dpkg: error processing archive fpc_2.6.2-0_i386.deb (--install): pre-dependency problem - not installing fpc (Reading database ... 220087 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb ... Unpacking google-chrome-stable (43.0.2357.134-1) over (43.0.2357.134-1) ... Selecting previously unselected package lazarus. Preparing to unpack lazarus_1.4.2-0_amd64.deb ... Unpacking lazarus (1.4.2) ... Setting up google-chrome-stable (43.0.2357.134-1) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of lazarus: lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-compiler (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Version of fp-compiler on system is 2.6.2-8. lazarus depends on fpc-src (= 2.6.4) | fpc-source (= 2.6.4); however: Version of fpc-source on system is 2.6.2-8. lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-ide (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Package fp-ide is not installed. lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-units-base (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Package fp-units-base is not installed. lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-units-db (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Package fp-units-db is not installed. lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-units-fcl (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Package fp-units-fcl is not installed. lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-units-fv (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Package fp-units-fv is not instal dpkg: error processing package lazarus (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Processing triggers for mime-support (3.54ubuntu1.1) ... Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.22-1ubuntu1) ... Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1ubuntu1) ... Processing triggers for shared-mime-info (1.2-0ubuntu3) ... Unknown media type in type 'all/all' Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu' Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm' Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspt' Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu' Errors were encountered while processing: fpc_2.6.2-0_i386.deb lazarus On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: On 2015-07-24 17:45, Larry Dalton wrote: What am I doing wrong? No idea, but may I suggest you rather download the *.tar file instead. It is a console based installer created by the FPC team. I've used it for years on Linux and FreeBSD, and never had any problems. I can also install it to any directory (I normally choose $HOME/devel/fpc/), instead if /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin/. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Linux mint install
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 17:23:25 -0500, you wrote: Yes Give installing binutils a try, then, as that's what your previous attempt seemed to be complaining about. If that works, then go through the full cycle again = fpc - fpc-src - lazarus. Brian. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2015, at 17:19, brian br...@meadows.pair.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 17:12:06 -0500, you wrote: Using linux mint 17.1 Rebecca OK, scratch the comment about LMDE (I assume what you're using is the Ubuntu-based version?). Brian. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2015, at 16:26, brian br...@meadows.pair.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 16:10:28 -0500, you wrote: Larry, Are you by any chance using the Debian version of Mint? It's a few versions ago, but I had all kinds of weird problems with Lazarus/FPC/LMDE, and after a few iterations with the LMDE users, I switched to plain old Debian, and things have worked just fine since then. If you're using the Ubuntu-based Mint, then forget all the above, that used to work OK. Brian. I have tried to remove the default lazarus install with the following commands: sudo apt-get purge fpc lazarus sudo rm -Rf /usr/lib/fpc sudo rm -Rf /usr/lib/lazarussudo rm -Rf /usr/share/fpcsr sudo rm -f ~/.fpcsudo rm -Rf ~/.lazarus, then downloaded lazarus_1.4.2-0amd64.deb. Then I get the following output: dpkg: regarding fpc_2.6.2-0_i386.deb containing fpc, pre-dependency problem: fpc pre-depends on binutils dpkg: error processing archive fpc_2.6.2-0_i386.deb (--install): pre-dependency problem - not installing fpc (Reading database ... 220087 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb ... Unpacking google-chrome-stable (43.0.2357.134-1) over (43.0.2357.134-1) ... Selecting previously unselected package lazarus. Preparing to unpack lazarus_1.4.2-0_amd64.deb ... Unpacking lazarus (1.4.2) ... Setting up google-chrome-stable (43.0.2357.134-1) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of lazarus: lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-compiler (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Version of fp-compiler on system is 2.6.2-8. lazarus depends on fpc-src (= 2.6.4) | fpc-source (= 2.6.4); however: Version of fpc-source on system is 2.6.2-8. lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-ide (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Package fp-ide is not installed. lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-units-base (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Package fp-units-base is not installed. lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-units-db (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Package fp-units-db is not installed. lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-units-fcl (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Package fp-units-fcl is not installed. lazarus depends on fpc (= 2.6.4) | fp-units-fv (= 2.6.4); however: Package fpc is not installed. Package fp-units-fv is not instal dpkg: error processing package lazarus (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Processing triggers for mime-support (3.54ubuntu1.1) ... Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.22-1ubuntu1) ... Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1ubuntu1) ... Processing triggers for shared-mime-info (1.2-0ubuntu3) ... Unknown media type in type 'all/all' Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu' Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm' Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspt' Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu' Errors were encountered while processing: fpc_2.6.2-0_i386.deb lazarus On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: On 2015-07-24 17:45, Larry Dalton wrote: What am I doing wrong? No idea, but may I suggest you rather download the *.tar file instead. It is a console based installer created by the FPC team. I've used it for years on Linux and FreeBSD, and never had any problems. I can also install it to any directory (I normally choose $HOME/devel/fpc/), instead if /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin/. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http
Re: [Lazarus] Linux mint install
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 00:48:25 +0100, you wrote: On 2015-07-24 22:10, Larry Dalton wrote: I have tried to remove the default lazarus install with the following commands:| ||sudo||apt-get purge fpc lazarus| Try removing Lazarus first, then FPC. I don't don't know if apt-get is clever enough to figure which one to do first. Lazarus depends on FPC, no trying to uninstall FPC first would not be a good idea. If you just try apt-get purge fpc it will remove lazarus first (I just tried it with a dry-run), so I don't think Larry's ordering will make any difference, apart from the fact that he might get an error from a subsequent attempt to purge lazarus. Brian. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Returning value from a Firebird (embedded) generator into Lazarus code
On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 14:12:44 +, you wrote: brian wrote: Hi folks, Can someone please give me a hint with this problem. I'm new to Firebird, but I needed a database which could be used in embedded fashion, and seemed to have a choice of one under Linux. What I need to do is to return a value generated by a Firebird generator into my Pascal code. Doing it what seemed to me to be the obvious way returns zero rows, do I need to update an interim table and then query that table? Or is there some other method which I've missed? Embedded in what way? I use Firebird on occasion as an alternative to PostgreSQL (i.e. in a client-server scenario), but I'd have thought for a single-system application SQLite would have been worth a look. Embedded as in there is no requirement for the user to do anything except unpack a zip file and run the executable. No installation of any kind of server on the host system. Having said that, apart from Firebird's poor documentation I've had no significant problem querying and updating tables. What exactly are you trying to do? Retrieve a value generated by a Firebird generator (in other words, an autoincremented value stored within the database) and get that incremented value into a Pascal variable. The SQL code to increment the value in the Firebird database is SELECT (generator,increment) FROM RDB$DATABASE; but I'm struggling to find a way to retrieve that incremented value. Simply attaching a data source to the query returns zero rows when the SQL is executed. I'm wondering whether I need to use a dummy table and then use the generator to update a field, then retrieve the data with a separate query. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Returning value from a Firebird (embedded) generator into Lazarus code
On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 16:18:18 +0200 (CEST), you wrote: On Sat, 25 Apr 2015, brian wrote: Hi folks, Can someone please give me a hint with this problem. I'm new to Firebird, but I needed a database which could be used in embedded fashion, and seemed to have a choice of one under Linux. What I need to do is to return a value generated by a Firebird generator into my Pascal code. Doing it what seemed to me to be the obvious way returns zero rows, do I need to update an interim table and then query that table? Or is there some other method which I've missed? Do a SELECT GEN_ID(YOUR_GENERATOR,1) AS THEVALUE FROM RDB$DATABASE in a TSQLQuery instance. Then call Open and you can get the value. Something like: With TSQLQuery.Create(Nil) do try Database:=MyDatabase; SQL.Text:='SELECT GEN_ID(YOUR_GENERATOR,1) AS THEVALUE FROM RDB$DATABASE'; Open; MyGenValue:=Fields[0].AsLargeInt; Finally Free; end; Michael. Ahh.. OK, I knew it was something obvious. Thanks, Michael. I guess I've forgotten more of my (Oracle) SQL than I thought. I see what I've been doing wrong. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Impressive web development
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 15:26:50 -0700, you wrote: Brian can I ask what is your average internet speed? It depends on the time of day. My net connection is capped two ways, firstly total throughput, up and down combined, is limited to 250 MB/day, except between 0200 and 0700 my time, when it's unmetered. Secondly, the connection is capped at 3 Megabits/sec down, 256 Kilobits/sec up, but I only see that in the off-peak periods. In the early evening, I've seen download speeds as low as dialup (i.e. 50 kilobits per second) and you don't even want to know about upload - it can take 15-20 seconds to send a standard e-mail. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Impressive web development
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 21:32:30 +0100, you wrote: Hi, I just came across this on Google+ - probably the most impressive web app I've ever seen. It is called Codenvy and is a fully functional zero-configuration integrated development environment. http://ow.ly/LBJUa ? Are we going to see such a web based Lazarus IDE soon? ;-) It should help stop all those FPC Lazarus installation issue support emails. :) On behalf of those of us with the misfortune to live in areas where you have no alternative to capped satellite internet connections (or worse yet, dial-up - there are still a few such unfortunates here in Maine) I sincerely hope not! Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] External SIGSEGV when trying to use data module components
Hi all, I'm writing an application which uses Firebird embedded. My setup is currently Lazarus 1.2.6 with FPC 2.6.4, but I have the 1.4 RC3 files to install if anybody thinks that should make a difference. I'm using the AMD64 version of Lazarus and Debian 7.6 multihome, with i386 architecture also installed. My problem is a simple one to describe - the program compiles correctly, but the moment I try to do anything with the objects in the data module, I get an immediate 'external SIGSEGV'. When I say do anything with them, this is as simple as adding a line of SQL to a query. The program compiles OK, of course, and removing gdb from the mix and recompiling just gives me the same error, but now the ASM window pops up at a different address. Any help gratefully received, because I don't know what else to try... Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] External SIGSEGV when trying to use data module components
On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:01:13 +0200, Luca Olivetti wrote: El 11/04/15 a les 17:48, brian ha escrit: My problem is a simple one to describe - the program compiles correctly, but the moment I try to do anything with the objects in the data module, I get an immediate 'external SIGSEGV'. When I say do anything with them, this is as simple as adding a line of SQL to a query. Check in project options, forms that the datamodule is in the auto create forms. Yes, that's there. Also, if you're trying to use the datamodule in the OnCreate event handler of the main form, that's going to cause a sigsev since the datamodule hasn't been created yet. Use OnShow instead. I've got a tabbed notebook on the main form, and the database stuff is in the OnShow of one of the tabs. Thanks for the ideas, Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] External SIGSEGV when trying to use data module components
On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 11:48:57 -0400, you wrote: I moved checking for the file and then creating the database if it didn't already exist from the OnShow event of the tab to the last possible moment in the processing, and that seems to have sorted it. I don't understand why, but I'm not complaining. Thanks for the assistance, folks. Brian. Hi all, I'm writing an application which uses Firebird embedded. My setup is currently Lazarus 1.2.6 with FPC 2.6.4, but I have the 1.4 RC3 files to install if anybody thinks that should make a difference. I'm using the AMD64 version of Lazarus and Debian 7.6 multihome, with i386 architecture also installed. My problem is a simple one to describe - the program compiles correctly, but the moment I try to do anything with the objects in the data module, I get an immediate 'external SIGSEGV'. When I say do anything with them, this is as simple as adding a line of SQL to a query. The program compiles OK, of course, and removing gdb from the mix and recompiling just gives me the same error, but now the ASM window pops up at a different address. Any help gratefully received, because I don't know what else to try... Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Promoting Lazarus: A Case Study Video
On 25-02-2015 14:10, Marcos Douglas wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Anthony Walter sys...@gmail.com wrote: Go back to a mailing list archive, other people have made suggestions which ';ve implemented. http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/New-Get-Lazarus-Initiative-td5720922.html Including making it clear who I am and why, linking back to the official sites on every mention of Free pascal or Lazarus, that these versions are tests and are being updated accordingly, and a page dedicated to doing it yourself: http://free-pascal-lazarus.989080.n3.nabble.com/Lazarus-Guide-Making-Free-Pascal-and-Lazarus-from-sources-td4040321.html Build scripts and instructions are mirrored on github: https://github.com/sysrpl/Codebot.Setup/blob/master/linux/install.fpc-3.0.linux.sh Here is a link to other material I've released in the past as well as other walk throughs: http://www.baregame.org/#bare_game http://www.getlazarus.org/videos/baregame http://www.getlazarus.org/videos/baresprites Codebot.Cross, which includes a new cross platform graphics rendering interface, is a port of this my Delphi content which was first released more than 10 years ago: http://www.codebot.org/delphi/ I've thanked Sven Barth as well as the rest of the team multiple times. I've also offered to spend time enhancing the Lazarus code tools: http://free-pascal-lazarus.989080.n3.nabble.com/Lazarus-Offer-Fixing-CodeTools-td4040620.html Everything I've done has always been released for free, without ads, and I've never asked for anything in return. I've only given. I say this because I'm not sure if you're thinking this is some elaborate trick. I assure you it's not. I think the only problem is using not stable versions... that's all! Your codes are amazing. Please, do not stop -- coding, getlazarus.org, etc -- just think if is better use stable versions. Best regards, Marcos Douglas -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus Yes, don't stop contributing, I like the idea of the installer script, it makes cross compiling so much easier, a thing that is very tricky to setup manually, specially for new users. I only took a brief look, but it (the script) has many comments and the code is quite clean, which is very nice too. But I understand the concern about the version used, and the naming, and I guess it would be good to have it explicitly in the website that it is a fan site (not sure what the correct term is), and not a project endorsed by the official Lazarus project. (and of course, the big fat warning when using unstable branches). Just my 2 cents :) Best regards, Brian Chalega da Silva. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Promoting Lazarus: A Case Study Video
On 25-02-2015 17:31, Marc Weustink wrote: On February 25, 2015 8:51:11 PM CET, Travis Ayres tray...@gmail.com wrote: I like the getlazarus version better so far than the official one (assuming it isn't an elaborate trick...). Free software is all about choice - I'm glad to have another option. I'm kinda surprised other people seem not to like it. More exposure for fpc/lazarus is good isn't it? That is not the problem. More exposure is ok. The problem with at least the download section is that it is absolutely not clear that you are downloading a alpha/beta version of Lazarus/fpc Imo it should point to the official download with the getlazarus version as alternative. That way visitors not knowing about Lazarus have a choice. When you now visit getlazarus and click download, it offers the option to download setup.exe When you don't know about Lazarus you expect this to be an official version. In my case where I professionally use Lazarus, I only want released versions of both Lazarus an FPC. Marc I disagree, since it's their website, it is logical that they would deliver their version of the software, I only think that it would be good if in the website they made it clear that this isn't the official site and not an official Lazarus initiative, to don't confuse people who don't know Lazarus. To summarize, IMO it basically needs to be more clear in the point that it's not endorsed by the Lazarus project, and that the version there is an unstable one (like Osvaldo, I personally prefer to use the unstable version too, but I'm only a hobbyist). And if it won't be too difficult maybe do a stable script / bundle too? But I guess I'm asking too much and doing too little hehe Best regards, Brian Chalega da Silva. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] ./fpcup_linux_x64 won't create lazarus executable
On 02/24/2014 05:52 PM, Allan E. Registos wrote: Anybody who is using fpcup on Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit? Not Ubuntu, but its ancestor. I'm using 64-bit Debian 7, and the last time I updated (about a week ago, I think) everything worked OK for me. Brian. Tried installing lazarus through fpcup, it seems the fpcup installer is successful. While it manage to create a lazarus_fpcup shortcut at the desktop, it did not create the lazarus executable in ~/development/lazarus dir. I uninstalled all my fpc/lazarus installations to be sure and installed the required libraries and did a clean install two times but the same problem with no ~/development/lazarus/lazarus executable. Regards, Allan -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] strange linux problem
On 02/19/2014 08:42 AM, brian wrote: On 02/19/2014 04:07 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:46:51 -0500 brian br...@meadows.pair.com wrote: [...] on a network drive. This is using Debian 7.2, and a recent svn version of Lazarus (I actually use fpcup to do the downloads and builds). The information on the 'About' page is version 1.3, date 2014-02-12, fpc version 2.6.3, svn revision 44027, x86_64-linux-gtk 2 [...] chmods and/or deletes on the files on the network drive. Stepping through with the debugger, some, but not all, of the attempted chmods return a status of -1. Some, but not all, of the calls to sysutils.deletefile return false. What is puzzling me is that if, instead of calling fpchmod and sysutils.deletefile I instead call fpsystem and do the operations that way, it works. I can also run up a command prompt and do the failed operations that way with no problem. [...] Is it reproducable on the same file? On the basis of two examples of each, yes. Can you give an example file name? Two of the files which failed to delete are unknown.mp4 and video_ts.vob. Two files where the attempt to chmod them failed are The_Buddhas_Instruction_to_his_son.mp4 and Yogis_Of_Tibet_Rare_Documentary.mp4 In all cases, the full paths are made up of ['A'..'Z','a'..'z','0'..'9','_'] only (well, also '/' and '.', obviously!) What kind of network share? It's a Western Digital 4TB My Cloud drive, with the shared /nfs directory on the drive mounted to a root-level directory on my PC. Nobody else is using the drive - I've only two PCs on the LAN, and my wife's machine was switched off. The drive is hanging off one of the ports of my four-port Linksys router. Special characters, wrong encoding, server lock, faulty network. Definitely not the first. I've written out the full paths to a log file, and they are correct - editing the logs and putting an 'ls ' in front of the file names provides the expected results. The drive is powered down overnight, and I'm the only user, so I can't see how there could be a server lock unless there's something wrong with the drive. I've seen nothing else to indicate a faulty router. I know this all sounds crazy. I wouldn't have believed it had I not been seeing it for myself. The only thing I could come up with (and the reason for my post here) was that single-stepping under the debugger somehow caused the problem. I'm not asking anybody to do any amount of research on this - it's trivial for me to tweak the program so that it writes commands to a file rather than tries to run the chmods and deletes, and I can just run the resulting file from the CLI. I'm sorry for the delay in replying, folks. Programming is now just a hobby for me, and other things got in the way. Mattias: I was single stepping in the debugger just to check I'd not made any mistakes in the code - I didn't have the nerve to run the program in its entirety yet, it would be a lot of work if I'd made a mistake somewhere and had to rebuild all the network drive stuff. What I did was to write a small test application, all it is is a button on a form (I wanted to stick with the GUI, as that's what the real program is) and the OnClick tries to chmod and delete those two pairs of files which I mentioned above. I compiled this and then ran it outside of the IDE (I can send you the project if you wish, but it really is that simple). The program worked just fine. Mark: The directory and file ownerships, permissions etc was the first thing I checked, they're not symlinks, and no, nothing else had them open. Bart and Reinier: It's an NFS share, no Samba involved. Waldo: I think you've got the answer. I added the suggested delay (0.25 second) before each of the chmod and delete operations, and while the deletions are done, I let the chmods all run again, and got no errors whatsoever. It does begin to look like the drive couldn't keep pace with it all. I don't have enough experience with this sort of configuration to know whether that's something to expect or whether it's a problem with my particular setup, but since I now have three workrounds that work (add a delay, use an fpSystem call instead or write a script) then that's fine by me. Thanks for the suggestions, all. Brian. Thanks for the assistance, folks. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] strange linux problem
Hi all, I'm trying to write a small utility program to clean up a LOT of files on a network drive. This is using Debian 7.2, and a recent svn version of Lazarus (I actually use fpcup to do the downloads and builds). The information on the 'About' page is version 1.3, date 2014-02-12, fpc version 2.6.3, svn revision 44027, x86_64-linux-gtk 2 This may well be a lack of experience with Linux programming on my part, but it has me baffled. The program I've written needs to do a bunch of chmods and/or deletes on the files on the network drive. Stepping through with the debugger, some, but not all, of the attempted chmods return a status of -1. Some, but not all, of the calls to sysutils.deletefile return false. What is puzzling me is that if, instead of calling fpchmod and sysutils.deletefile I instead call fpsystem and do the operations that way, it works. I can also run up a command prompt and do the failed operations that way with no problem. The files on the network drive are all owned by me, the chmod is trying to set permissions to 644 rather than 777. The delete is just deleting a whole bunch of log files which got mixed up in there when the data was copied to the drive. I have no idea why the above should happen, it makes no sense to me, but as I said, I'm still a relative novice as regards coding for Linux. Everything is being run from the same account. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks, Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] strange linux problem
On 02/19/2014 04:07 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 03:46:51 -0500 brian br...@meadows.pair.com wrote: [...] on a network drive. This is using Debian 7.2, and a recent svn version of Lazarus (I actually use fpcup to do the downloads and builds). The information on the 'About' page is version 1.3, date 2014-02-12, fpc version 2.6.3, svn revision 44027, x86_64-linux-gtk 2 [...] chmods and/or deletes on the files on the network drive. Stepping through with the debugger, some, but not all, of the attempted chmods return a status of -1. Some, but not all, of the calls to sysutils.deletefile return false. What is puzzling me is that if, instead of calling fpchmod and sysutils.deletefile I instead call fpsystem and do the operations that way, it works. I can also run up a command prompt and do the failed operations that way with no problem. [...] Is it reproducable on the same file? On the basis of two examples of each, yes. Can you give an example file name? Two of the files which failed to delete are unknown.mp4 and video_ts.vob. Two files where the attempt to chmod them failed are The_Buddhas_Instruction_to_his_son.mp4 and Yogis_Of_Tibet_Rare_Documentary.mp4 In all cases, the full paths are made up of ['A'..'Z','a'..'z','0'..'9','_'] only (well, also '/' and '.', obviously!) What kind of network share? It's a Western Digital 4TB My Cloud drive, with the shared /nfs directory on the drive mounted to a root-level directory on my PC. Nobody else is using the drive - I've only two PCs on the LAN, and my wife's machine was switched off. The drive is hanging off one of the ports of my four-port Linksys router. Special characters, wrong encoding, server lock, faulty network. Definitely not the first. I've written out the full paths to a log file, and they are correct - editing the logs and putting an 'ls ' in front of the file names provides the expected results. The drive is powered down overnight, and I'm the only user, so I can't see how there could be a server lock unless there's something wrong with the drive. I've seen nothing else to indicate a faulty router. I know this all sounds crazy. I wouldn't have believed it had I not been seeing it for myself. The only thing I could come up with (and the reason for my post here) was that single-stepping under the debugger somehow caused the problem. I'm not asking anybody to do any amount of research on this - it's trivial for me to tweak the program so that it writes commands to a file rather than tries to run the chmods and deletes, and I can just run the resulting file from the CLI. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Ubuntu 14.04 LTS - Any plans to include 1.0.x on it?
On 12/24/2013 02:10 PM, Michael Van Ham wrote: On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Alexsander Rosa alexsander.r...@gmail.com wrote: Just ran the getlaz shell, it tried to install an old version: Os NOVOS pacotes a seguir serão instalados: fp-compiler fp-compiler-2.6.0 fpc fpc-2.6.0 fpc-source fpc-source-2.6.0 lazarus lazarus-0.9.30.4 lazarus-ide-0.9.30.4 lazarus-ide-gtk2-0.9.30.4 Anything newer anywhere? I've had some luck using fpcup from https://bitbucket.org/reiniero/fpcup fpcup works just fine for me on Debian v7.0 64-bit. Lazarus announces itself as v1.3 on the splash screen. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Jedi Code Format barfs on an Octal number
On 12/17/2013 04:17 AM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: 2013/12/17 Jürgen Hestermann juergen.hesterm...@gmx.de Am 2013-12-17 02:42, schrieb waldo kitty: yes, but it is not available in TP/BP and (IIRC) Delphi... I am wondering why octal numbers are not allowed in these modes. Why not allow them in all modes? I can't see how this would cause problems. It would only avoid them. Maybe because these modes could be used to ensure that the developer is able to switch back to TP/BP or Delphi. If these modes accepted features which TP/BP or Delphi don't understand, switching back would become difficult. Or you could create a source file which you want to be compatible with FPC and with TP. If you use octal, it won't work. That is exactly the idea. Which is fair enough, of course, but the formatter obviously isn't a compiler. I cannot see a problem with JCF reformatting code which is the *superset* of all three modes. Incompatible badly-formatted code is certainly no less of a problem than incompatible well-formatted code! Of course, it's a perfectly understandable problem if JCF hasn't been tweaked in any way for FPC, as it was no doubt written with Object Pascal as the target language. Anyway, it's hardly a problem of any great importance, if you want to keep the modes for fpChmod readable without requiring mental arithmetic then all I did was to rewrite 644 as (6*64)+(4*8)+4 Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Jedi Code Format barfs on an Octal number
Hi folks, I'm not sure where to flag this bug, whether the version of JCF included with Lazarus is just the vanilla version or whether it's been tweaked in some way, but no doubt one of you can point me to the right place if I should be posting somewhere else. The bug is a simple one, JCF won't accept the '' syntax for an octal number. There's absolutely no doubt that this was the problem, all of my units formatted correctly except for the one with the two calls to FpChmod in it, and that one formatted correctly when I changed the octal number to its decimal equivalent. I'm using the version of Lazarus as downloaded by fpcup_linux_x64 and I updated two days ago. The help page gives the revision as 43538. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] IDE problems - FIXED
On 11/28/2013 05:08 AM, Martin Frb wrote: On 28/11/2013 08:38, brian wrote: On 11/26/2013 04:02 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Run diff (e.g. kdiff3) on the old and new configuration files. Report back. Sorry for the delayed reply, now programming is just a hobby, my wife has other ideas about how I should spend my time... :( Anyway, everything is local, my desktop is XFCE. Checking the old and new directories, these are the directory listings Old setup (showing the problem) Problem is that your main window (ide bar) is maximized. I just tested, I get the same error under fedora with xfce - Start IDE - maximize main-ide-bar - restart To fix: un-maximize Also notable: The maximize IDE bar should be restrained in high, but it is not. Though that may be ok, since the WM may override the LCL decision. I've just tried it myself, Martin, and I confirm your findings. Thank you for solving the problem. Now, of course, I just have to figure out *HOW* the IDE bar got maximised, because as I said in my original posting, it appeared totally spontaneous. The first indication I had was in the middle of a debugging session when suddenly everything but the source window disappeared. If there's any way of maximising the IDE bar with the F7 and F8 keys then it's news to me! Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] IDE problems - FIXED
On 11/25/2013 06:26 PM, brian wrote: Hi folks, Something has spontaneously gone wrong with the IDE on my setup. I say spontaneously because I was in the middle of debugging a program when suddenly everything but the source window disappeared. I eventually had to abort Lazarus and re-start the program, but now I see some very strange behaviour :- 1) Pull-down menus stay pulled down, even when I've selected an entry. 2) Only the object inspector or the source editor can be visible at any one time - select one, and the other vanishes. There are probably a few other quirks too, but those are the most annoying two. In my Delphi days, there used to be a desktop configuration file which you deleted if the IDE got all screwed up, and then when you ran the program again you were back to all the defaults. Is there such a file for Lazarus? I assume this isn't a version-specific question, but anyway, I'm running Lazarus under 64-bit Debian multi-home, and the version is the latest as downloaded by fpcup_linux_x64 two days ago, SVN revision 43478. Well, not surprisingly, the nuclear option worked. Rename .lazarus and my development directory, copy the .ini files and fpcup_linux_x64 into a new directory, and rebuild the whole thing. Bit of a nuisance having to set all my preferences again, but nothing like as bad as trying to debug with the previous setup. If anyone can figure out what happened, I for one would still be interested to hear it. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] IDE problems
On 11/26/2013 03:21 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 22:17:05 -0300 Junior lazarus.li...@gmail.com wrote: Fixing the link: http://www.meadows.pair.com/Screenshot%20-%2011252013%20-%2006:57:09%20PM.png Em 25-11-2013 21:49, brian escreveu: On 11/25/2013 06:45 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 18:26:48 -0500 brian br...@meadows.pair.com wrote: Hi folks, Something has spontaneously gone wrong with the IDE on my setup. I say spontaneously because I was in the middle of debugging a program when suddenly everything but the source window disappeared. I eventually had to abort Lazarus and re-start the program, but now I see some very strange behaviour :- 1) Pull-down menus stay pulled down, even when I've selected an entry. What Lazarus version do you use? 2) Only the object inspector or the source editor can be visible at any one time - select one, and the other vanishes. There are probably a few other quirks too, but those are the most annoying two. In my Delphi days, there used to be a desktop configuration file which you deleted if the IDE got all screwed up, and then when you ran the program again you were back to all the defaults. Is there such a file for Lazarus? I assume this isn't a version-specific question, but anyway, I'm running Lazarus under 64-bit Debian multi-home, and the version is the latest as downloaded by fpcup_linux_x64 two days ago, SVN revision 43478. The config files are under Linux in $HOME/.lazarus. Thanks, Mattias. I tried renaming .lazarus and then ran lazarus up again, but no change in the behaviour. Let me show you the sort of thing I see, screenshot attached. Any time I click a pulldown menu, the source window disappears, and as you will see, the pulldown menus stay there. P.S. Didn't know about the 100 KB size triggering a moderator review. OK, the .png is here. http://www.meadows.pair.com/Screenshot - 11252013 - 06:57:09 PM.png I have never seen such a bug with the LCL. Does that happen only with Lazarus? I tried OpenOffice, and its menus worked perfectly. What window manager do you use? XFCE Is that the LCL QT widgetset? No, gtk2. Anyway, as you will see from another posting, I ran out of patience with it and nuked the setup, then set it to rebuild overnight. The new setup works just fine, and the bit of reconfiguration needed is less frustrating than trying to use the corrupted(?) setup. Thanks anyway, Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] IDE problems
Hi folks, Something has spontaneously gone wrong with the IDE on my setup. I say spontaneously because I was in the middle of debugging a program when suddenly everything but the source window disappeared. I eventually had to abort Lazarus and re-start the program, but now I see some very strange behaviour :- 1) Pull-down menus stay pulled down, even when I've selected an entry. 2) Only the object inspector or the source editor can be visible at any one time - select one, and the other vanishes. There are probably a few other quirks too, but those are the most annoying two. In my Delphi days, there used to be a desktop configuration file which you deleted if the IDE got all screwed up, and then when you ran the program again you were back to all the defaults. Is there such a file for Lazarus? I assume this isn't a version-specific question, but anyway, I'm running Lazarus under 64-bit Debian multi-home, and the version is the latest as downloaded by fpcup_linux_x64 two days ago, SVN revision 43478. Thanks, Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] IDE problems
On 11/25/2013 06:58 PM, Martin Frb wrote: On 25/11/2013 23:26, brian wrote: Hi folks, Something has spontaneously gone wrong with the IDE on my setup. I say spontaneously because I was in the middle of debugging a program when suddenly everything but the source window disappeared. I eventually had to abort Lazarus and re-start the program, but now I see some very strange behaviour :- 1) Pull-down menus stay pulled down, even when I've selected an entry. This does not sound like a config issue to me. However, I have seen some Linux, or maybe some of the Destops/Window managers getting in trouble, if gdb pauses an application in the wrong moment. e.g. in a paint event, or other events (mouse, kbd). In that case you may have to restart your desktop session, potentially the entire system. The problem has survived a full reboot. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] IDE problems
On 11/25/2013 06:45 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 18:26:48 -0500 brian br...@meadows.pair.com wrote: Hi folks, Something has spontaneously gone wrong with the IDE on my setup. I say spontaneously because I was in the middle of debugging a program when suddenly everything but the source window disappeared. I eventually had to abort Lazarus and re-start the program, but now I see some very strange behaviour :- 1) Pull-down menus stay pulled down, even when I've selected an entry. What Lazarus version do you use? 2) Only the object inspector or the source editor can be visible at any one time - select one, and the other vanishes. There are probably a few other quirks too, but those are the most annoying two. In my Delphi days, there used to be a desktop configuration file which you deleted if the IDE got all screwed up, and then when you ran the program again you were back to all the defaults. Is there such a file for Lazarus? I assume this isn't a version-specific question, but anyway, I'm running Lazarus under 64-bit Debian multi-home, and the version is the latest as downloaded by fpcup_linux_x64 two days ago, SVN revision 43478. The config files are under Linux in $HOME/.lazarus. Thanks, Mattias. I tried renaming .lazarus and then ran lazarus up again, but no change in the behaviour. Let me show you the sort of thing I see, screenshot attached. Any time I click a pulldown menu, the source window disappears, and as you will see, the pulldown menus stay there. P.S. Didn't know about the 100 KB size triggering a moderator review. OK, the .png is here. http://www.meadows.pair.com/Screenshot - 11252013 - 06:57:09 PM.png Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] New competition for Lazarus
On 05/31/2013 06:01 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2013-05-30 21:53, brian wrote: Perhaps they'll add support for Debian 7.0 multiarch. Based on someone's posting in here a while back (I *think* yours, Graeme, but I'm not certain) I've never installed or used Debian. I didn't mean to imply that you were a Debian user, Graeme, just that you (I think, I'm not 100% certain) were the one who made favourable comments about CodeTyphon. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] New competition for Lazarus
On 05/30/2013 06:58 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Perhaps they'll add support for Debian 7.0 multiarch. Based on someone's posting in here a while back (I *think* yours, Graeme, but I'm not certain), I set up a VM and downloaded CodeTyphon. I forget exactly what the problem was now (the details are all in their forums, and I was far from the only person having trouble using Debian 7.0 multiarch). Their response was that Debian 7.0 was unstable and that I would have to wait for CodeTyphon 4.0 for it to be supported. As I didn't feel able to change my distro for the differences between CodeTyphon and Lazarus, I just wiped the VM and forgot about it. Brian. Hi, I just saw this thread. The PilotLogic guys (creators of the CodeTyphoon project) has finally decided to fork Lazarus IDE and go their own route. Here are some early days screenshots. http://www.pilotlogic.com/sitejoom/media/kunena/attachments/63/OpenIntiana64_2013-05-27.jpg http://www.pilotlogic.com/sitejoom/media/kunena/attachments/63/Screenshot_2013-05-28.jpg They plan to add multi-architecture / dual personalities (32-bit 64-bit executables) on a single system, improved cross-compile support with easy switching and indicator, C/C++ support, support more platforms etc. For the full thread, here is the link. http://www.pilotlogic.com/sitejoom/index.php/forum/ct-lab-news/2509-ct-4-30-lab-new-ide?limitstart=0start=24 Regards, - Graeme - -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Sharing of large files
On 04/15/2013 06:26 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: ... I highly recommend you try Ubuntu One [https://one.ubuntu.com/], which is available for Linux, Windows, Mac OSX, iOS and Android. You get 5GB of data storage free, and can share files (with the public, or privately with your own devices) and sync files with great ease. Plus, NO distracting ads in the interface. Yeah! :-) Unless you know better, Graeme, it appears from what I've just read that your list should read UBUNTU, Windows, Mac OSX... That's the impression the website gives, anyway. Maybe it's distro-independent if you're using Thunderbird. I don't know, because I use Debian, Icedove is based on the LTS version of Thunderbird, and it's still on 10.x Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazdaemon and Fedora 17
Em 11-11-2012 06:04, zeljko escreveu: On Sunday 11 of November 2012 05:35:25 Andrew Brunner wrote: Does anyone have any experience with Fedora 17 and daemons? Under Debian, I use a script and start-stop-daemon to load my FPC/Lazarus Daemon. Under Fedora, there is no such start-stop-daemon command. Has anyone had any success or experience with the new service system? Fedora 17 uses systemd. Start scripts are in /lib/systemd directory and subdirs. zeljko -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus This page can be helpful: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd Brian -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Pointer woes when trying to port a Delphi program
Hi all, I'm trying to port a Delphi program to Lazarus, although I'm redoing the interface from scratch. Without getting into to much detail about what the program does, it needs an array of 72 buttons on the main screen, these buttons have their captions changed and are variously enabled and disabled as the program executes. Because of the underlying logic, it's easiest to manipulate these buttons as an array of pointers to the buttons (in fact two arrays, but that's not really relevant). So, I have Type TBtnPtr = ^TButton; TBtnArray = Array [1..36] of TBtnPtr; Var Buttons1, Buttons2 : TBtnArray; Then in a procedure called from the Form's OnCreate, I set the arrays up :- Buttons[1]^ := FirstButton; Buttons[2]^ := SecondButton; etc, etc. Everything compiles OK, but at runtime, the moment the program reaches that first assignment statement running interactively under GDB, I get an error Exception class External : SIGSEGV This is using SVN 38353M (downloaded and built this morning) with FPC 2.6.0 on an AMD Phenom X4 box running Debian SID 64-bit, and generating a 64 bit executable. I'm lost. This same code worked under Delphi 7. Can anyone give me a hint as to what I'm doing wrong? I wanted to create the buttons as design time so that I can set the initial layout, but if I need to create them dynamically I can do that. Thanks Brian -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] RE : Lazarus crashing reproducibly on startup (64-bitLinux)
On 04/01/2012 04:32 PM, brian wrote: On 04/01/2012 04:05 AM, Ludo Brands wrote: And you're running on an AMD CPU? In that case, I'm absolutely baffled You shouldn't, I have reported it working on AMD in the mantis case (http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=21515) and on the lazarus forum (http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,14881.msg89591.html#msg 89591). Well I followed Mattias's procedure, which worked for him, and all I can say is that it still doesn't work for me. I regret ever having thought of the idea of reverting to Mint - or, at least, trying LMDE. Since I was using Debian testing anyway, I thought I had little to lose and something to gain. I'm going to give up on Mint and reinstall plain old Debian. I know Lazarus works on that **on my PC**. The bottom line to all this, as probably no-one will be surprised to learn, is that wiping Mint Debian and re-installing standard Debian means that Lazarus works just fine for me once again. I understand that Mattias and Ludo both managed to run Lazarus on LMDE without a problem. I'm perfectly willing to accept that there's some complex interaction which affects only a few PCs running LMDE. I guess that whether or not you install LMDE if you want to use Lazarus depends on how lucky you feel. Certainly anyone doing so should be prepared to have to revert to another distro if they get unlucky. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus crashing reproducibly on startup (64-bit Linux)
On 03/31/2012 07:18 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:19:28 -0400 brianbr...@meadows.pair.com wrote: Well, I've done a bunch of testing with some virtual machines, plus a bunch of web searches looking for other threads on this error, and it seems to be plain that it's a multi-way incompatibility. If you are running Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) V12 on an AMD 64-bit CPU (and it doesn't matter whether you run a 32 or 64 bit version of the operating system) then Lazarus will crash, reproducibly, and that holds for any version of LAzarus between 0.9.28.2 up to a fairly recent svn version. I installed Linux Mint Debian Edition 64bit in virtualbox. And Lazarus 0.9.31 does not crash here. And you're running on an AMD CPU? In that case, I'm absolutely baffled, because I've done nothing more than install LMDE, get any upgrades, and try to install and run Lazarus. Which version did you try installing first, the one from the LMDE repos? If it's possible that you need to install the latest version and no other, then that might explain it. If you can confirm that you're running an AMD-based system, then please let me know what version of Lazarus you used, and I will set up another VM and try again. Thanks, Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus crashing reproducibly on startup (64-bit Linux)
On 03/31/2012 07:18 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: I installed Linux Mint Debian Edition 64bit in virtualbox. And Lazarus 0.9.31 does not crash here. Sorry, I missed the version number. Please just confirm for me that you're running on an AMD CPU and I'll try another VM. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus crashing reproducibly on startup (64-bit Linux)
On 03/31/2012 02:50 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: I downloaded the ISO, then did an upgrade, then installed the package lazarus and subversion to get the development packages, then uninstalled lazarus, keeping the rest, then installed fpc 2.6.0 from zip, then downloaded fpc svn trunk, compiled, installed then downloaded lazarus svn trunk, compiled, started then \O/ Thanks. I will follow exactly those steps. Watch this space... Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus crashing reproducibly on startup (64-bit Linux)
Well, I've done a bunch of testing with some virtual machines, plus a bunch of web searches looking for other threads on this error, and it seems to be plain that it's a multi-way incompatibility. If you are running Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) V12 on an AMD 64-bit CPU (and it doesn't matter whether you run a 32 or 64 bit version of the operating system) then Lazarus will crash, reproducibly, and that holds for any version of LAzarus between 0.9.28.2 up to a fairly recent svn version. If you're running on an Intel CPU, or a 32-bit AMD chip, or you're running the Ubuntu-based version of Mint, you won't have a problem. This is particularly puzzling since LMDE is built on Debian testing, and Debian testing will run Lazarus without a problem. For that reason, it seems to me that it's a problem for the LMDE folks rather than the Lazarus developers. Now, where did I put that Debian installation DVD? Brian. On 03/29/2012 04:19 AM, brian wrote: For anyone still interested in this thread, sorry it's taking me so long to post again but I'm on a satellite internet connection, I only have unrestricted downloads between 0200 and 0700, and so it takes me quite a while to set up virtual machines and do the updates. While I've had one reply from a posting to the Mint Debian forums from someone who is tracking the unstable repositories and is able to run Lazarus without a problem, there seems to be no doubt that there is a basic incompatibility between Lazarus and either the stable or testing distros of Mint Debian. I haven't been able to get Lazarus to start on either distro, whether 32 bit or 64 bit, but plain Debian stable or testing runs Lazarus just fine. I'm going to try pointing at the unstable repositories now, and I'll post again in 3-4 days when I've had time to do the final set of updates and try all the different permutations. For the moment, I strongly advise anyone who wants to run Lazarus *NOT* to install Linux Mint Debian. If you want a rolling distro, stick with plain Debian rather than the Mint version, or try one of the others. All of the above does NOT apply to the Ubuntu-based versions of Mint. They run Lazarus without problems, too. Brian. On 03/18/2012 08:36 AM, brian wrote: I've recently switched distros to Mint Debian 12 64-bit XFCE. This is on an AMD Phenom *4, 4 GB of RAM. When I was reinstalling stuff I noticed that the latest version of Lazarus that they have in the repo is 0.9.28, a bit old I know, but it works for what I do. So I installed 0.9.28, which also brought in FPC 2.4.0-2. When I try to run Lazarus from the menus, I get the splash screen and then nothing, the IDE never comes up. So, I switched to a terminal, ran startlazarus and got the following output. [WARNING] Out of OEM specific VK codes, changing to unassigned [WARNING] Out of unassigned VK codes, assigning $FF TLazarusManager.Run starting /usr/lib/lazarus/0.9.28.2/lazarus ... Runtime error 203 at $00736A16 $00736A16 $00720991 OK, maybe it's an old version. I downloaded the latest .DEBs from SourceForge, and installed those. No change in the symptoms (well, OK, I can't say the addresses were exactly the same, but the bit about the VK codes was, and it was still a runtime error 203). I cleaned out everything to do with Lazarus and FPC that I could find (using KFind to make sure I got everything) and had one more try with 0.9.28. As expected, still the same error. I know that 0.9.28 used to run on Mint 9 64-bit, but that was the Ubuntu-based version, not the Debian-based one. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this, please? Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus crashing reproducibly on startup (64-bit Linux)
For anyone still interested in this thread, sorry it's taking me so long to post again but I'm on a satellite internet connection, I only have unrestricted downloads between 0200 and 0700, and so it takes me quite a while to set up virtual machines and do the updates. While I've had one reply from a posting to the Mint Debian forums from someone who is tracking the unstable repositories and is able to run Lazarus without a problem, there seems to be no doubt that there is a basic incompatibility between Lazarus and either the stable or testing distros of Mint Debian. I haven't been able to get Lazarus to start on either distro, whether 32 bit or 64 bit, but plain Debian stable or testing runs Lazarus just fine. I'm going to try pointing at the unstable repositories now, and I'll post again in 3-4 days when I've had time to do the final set of updates and try all the different permutations. For the moment, I strongly advise anyone who wants to run Lazarus *NOT* to install Linux Mint Debian. If you want a rolling distro, stick with plain Debian rather than the Mint version, or try one of the others. All of the above does NOT apply to the Ubuntu-based versions of Mint. They run Lazarus without problems, too. Brian. On 03/18/2012 08:36 AM, brian wrote: I've recently switched distros to Mint Debian 12 64-bit XFCE. This is on an AMD Phenom *4, 4 GB of RAM. When I was reinstalling stuff I noticed that the latest version of Lazarus that they have in the repo is 0.9.28, a bit old I know, but it works for what I do. So I installed 0.9.28, which also brought in FPC 2.4.0-2. When I try to run Lazarus from the menus, I get the splash screen and then nothing, the IDE never comes up. So, I switched to a terminal, ran startlazarus and got the following output. [WARNING] Out of OEM specific VK codes, changing to unassigned [WARNING] Out of unassigned VK codes, assigning $FF TLazarusManager.Run starting /usr/lib/lazarus/0.9.28.2/lazarus ... Runtime error 203 at $00736A16 $00736A16 $00720991 OK, maybe it's an old version. I downloaded the latest .DEBs from SourceForge, and installed those. No change in the symptoms (well, OK, I can't say the addresses were exactly the same, but the bit about the VK codes was, and it was still a runtime error 203). I cleaned out everything to do with Lazarus and FPC that I could find (using KFind to make sure I got everything) and had one more try with 0.9.28. As expected, still the same error. I know that 0.9.28 used to run on Mint 9 64-bit, but that was the Ubuntu-based version, not the Debian-based one. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this, please? Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] RE : Lazarus crashing reproducibly on startup (64-bitLinux)
On 03/20/2012 04:59 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: brian wrote: I fairly regularly build both FPC trunk and the current release on multiple platforms (but markedly /not/ on x86-64) and in many cases drop libgdb from FPC since it's only required for the fp IDE. Looking at your list of undefineds, I think the right question would have been how can I build a vanilla libgdb that doesn't require a whole lot of Python libraries etc.- and I'm afraid that's one for the gdb developers rather than us. So you're telling me that *any* program which I need to build myself and which pulls in libgdb is going to have all those undefineds? That does sound to be a bit of a shortcoming if so! I did try installing a bunch of Python libraries as well, but didn't get anywhere. I'm not going back to the October stuff right now, this could well be a distro issue particularly if it's got a libgdb package but not the underlying Python libraries. I'm afraid I've never been into Python: my style's more Horne :-) Anyway, I shall keep bashing away at trying to get the svn versions to build and install, and see whether they cure the latest problem. It will take me a little while to get it done, but I'll report back if I manage to fix it - I'm not too keen on the alternative, which is trying to resurrect my Fortran from umpty-mumble years ago. I'd suggest getting a working FPC 2.6.0, either as a binary (from the FPC servers) or building it yourself although this might require that you start with 2.4.4. In the latter case use something like $ make NOGDB=1 OPT='-gl' all followed by a make install , after which you'll probably want to make sure that you've got /usr/local/bin/ppc386 - /usr/local/lib/fpc/2.6.0/ppc386 or similar (make install doesn't mess with that symlink: I'm not sure that's a wise omission but it's the way it is). The NOGDB will make sure that there is no reference to libgdb, but as I said earlier it is only required by the fp text-mode IDE. Having to that point, get a recent Lazarus. Now I'm sure you've got your own preferences, but the one that I've built most recently was the fixes RC from SVN svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/branches/branches/release_0_9_30_4 ./lazarus-fixed If you decide that you really do need libgdb, which you DO NOT if your interest is Lazarus, then I suggest finding or building a copy around v6.7.1 and then using make GDB_V607=1 OPT='... since this definitely works on Debian (Etch/Lenny/Squeeze) x86 and others. HTH. Hi Mark, I tried rebuilding gdb and libgdb.a from source, making sure I had all the Python libraries installed. That seemed to work OK, no errors. I installed everything and tried rebuilding FPC with no switches. There were less undefined globals, but still a lot of them. So then I followed your instructions. 1) Yes, FPC from svn will build correctly with the NOGDB switch you provided. I did so, and installed it. 2) I downloaded the Lazarus that you indicate above. It built without errors, but when I try to run it, it still comes up with the error 203. Running under the debugger produces this output paste Runtime error 203 at $006EFFDA $006EFFDA $006D90ED [Inferior 1 (process 4558) exited with code 0313] /paste I've taken a look on the Linux Mint forums, and I certainly don't seem to be the only one seeing this problem, as David's posting also suggested. I have two friends who are total non-programmers. Neither FPC nor Lazarus will have been anywhere near their machines. One of them is running Debian Testing, on which Linux Mint Debian (LMDE) is built, the other is running LMDE as I am. Both are on 64-bit distros. I'm going to ask them both to try installing Lazarus and then try to run it. If, as I suspect, the LMDE user sees the crash and the plain Debian user doesn't, then I think that will be fairly conclusive. In the short term, I guess the best way out will be to set up a virtual machine with a copy of some other distro and do any Lazarus work in that. I'm still a relative novice at Linux, though I've long experience with Borland/CodeGear/Embarcadero Pascal/Delphi under Windows. If any of the developers want me to try compilations etc. under LMDE, I'd be happy to devote up to a couple of hours a day in doing so, but I'd need to be led through most of it. Thanks for your help, and I'll report back when I hear from my friends, although I will be very surprised if they do anything other than confirm what I've found, i.e. Lazarus will run just fine on plain Debian but not on LMDE. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] RE : Lazarus crashing reproducibly on startup (64-bitLinux)
On 03/20/2012 03:45 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: brian wrote: This is the Debian-based version of Mint. Standard Mint is Ubuntu-based but the Debian version is for those who prefer a rolling distribution. AFAIK, the current build is based on Debian Wheezy. I've tried downloading the svn version, and there's some problem with libgdb.a, I can't even get FPC to build, let alone Lazarus. There are YARDS of undefined globals. I finally got an answer from someone on the FPC list (after just being told fix your GDB) and I'm trying to work my way through that at the moment. Granted that not all messages get through our gateway, but is that the thread from October last year? I only ask because your recounting of that advice does sound somewhat... brutal. Yes. I'm certain that the first answer I got said precisely and ONLY that, but I can't find it in the folder now I look back. Either I'm going ga-ga or it was a private reply or I just nuked it in disgust. If that's all you have to say, why bother posting? I can't even remember the name of the responder now. Apologies to you as you did try to help - but it's not until I looked back and saw Pierre's message that I've made any progress. I fairly regularly build both FPC trunk and the current release on multiple platforms (but markedly /not/ on x86-64) and in many cases drop libgdb from FPC since it's only required for the fp IDE. Looking at your list of undefineds, I think the right question would have been how can I build a vanilla libgdb that doesn't require a whole lot of Python libraries etc.- and I'm afraid that's one for the gdb developers rather than us. So you're telling me that *any* program which I need to build myself and which pulls in libgdb is going to have all those undefineds? That does sound to be a bit of a shortcoming if so! I did try installing a bunch of Python libraries as well, but didn't get anywhere. Anyway, I shall keep bashing away at trying to get the svn versions to build and install, and see whether they cure the latest problem. It will take me a little while to get it done, but I'll report back if I manage to fix it - I'm not too keen on the alternative, which is trying to resurrect my Fortran from umpty-mumble years ago. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus crashing reproducibly on startup (64-bit Linux)
On 03/19/2012 03:02 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:13:11 + Mark Morgan Lloydmarkmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote: brian wrote: On 03/18/2012 11:45 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: brian wrote: I've recently switched distros to Mint Debian 12 64-bit XFCE. This is on an AMD Phenom *4, 4 GB of RAM. When I was reinstalling stuff I noticed that the latest version of Lazarus that they have in the repo is 0.9.28, a bit old I know, but it works for what I do. So I installed 0.9.28, which also brought in FPC 2.4.0-2. Have you tried 0.9.30.4 or 0.9.31? Yes. I downloaded the latest .DEBs from SourceForge, 0.9.30.4. The symptoms were unchanged. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] RE : Lazarus crashing reproducibly on startup (64-bitLinux)
On 03/19/2012 01:34 PM, Ludo Brands wrote: I've recently switched distros to Mint Debian 12 64-bit XFCE. This is on an AMD Phenom *4, 4 GB of RAM. When I was reinstalling stuff I noticed that the latest version of Lazarus that they have in the repo is 0.9.28, a bit old I know, but it works for what I do. So I installed 0.9.28, which also brought in FPC 2.4.0-2. When I try to run Lazarus from the menus, I get the splash screen and then nothing, the IDE never comes up. So, I switched to a terminal, ran startlazarus and got the following output. [WARNING] Out of OEM specific VK codes, changing to unassigned [WARNING] Out of unassigned VK codes, assigning $FF TLazarusManager.Run starting /usr/lib/lazarus/0.9.28.2/lazarus ... Runtime error 203 at $00736A16 $00736A16 $00720991 OK, maybe it's an old version. I downloaded the latest .DEBs from SourceForge, and installed those. No change in the symptoms (well, OK, I can't say the addresses were exactly the same, but the bit about the VK codes was, and it was still a runtime error 203). I cleaned out everything to do with Lazarus and FPC that I could find (using KFind to make sure I got everything) and had one more try with 0.9.28. As expected, still the same error. I know that 0.9.28 used to run on Mint 9 64-bit, but that was the Ubuntu-based version, not the Debian-based one. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this, please? Starting at a shell prompt, if you load Lazarus in gdb, run it, wait for the crash and then use GDB's bt command to get a backtrace, do the first few lines say anything useful? Probably not, but this is what was produced using V0.9.28 paste run Starting program: /usr/bin/startlazarus [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x005a2879 in ?? () (gdb) bt #0 0x005a2879 in ?? () #1 0x7fffe1c0 in ?? () #2 0x77de902c in ?? () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 #3 0x00502b31 in ?? () #4 0x7577dead in __libc_start_main () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 #5 0x in ?? () (gdb) /paste There was a problem with ubuntu 12 and gtk (glib2-2.31). A patch was created and committed http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=21129 . If mint 12 is derived from ubuntu 12 you'll probably running into this problem. Try lazarus from svn. This is the Debian-based version of Mint. Standard Mint is Ubuntu-based but the Debian version is for those who prefer a rolling distribution. AFAIK, the current build is based on Debian Wheezy. I've tried downloading the svn version, and there's some problem with libgdb.a, I can't even get FPC to build, let alone Lazarus. There are YARDS of undefined globals. I finally got an answer from someone on the FPC list (after just being told fix your GDB) and I'm trying to work my way through that at the moment. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Lazarus crashing reproducibly on startup (64-bit Linux)
I've recently switched distros to Mint Debian 12 64-bit XFCE. This is on an AMD Phenom *4, 4 GB of RAM. When I was reinstalling stuff I noticed that the latest version of Lazarus that they have in the repo is 0.9.28, a bit old I know, but it works for what I do. So I installed 0.9.28, which also brought in FPC 2.4.0-2. When I try to run Lazarus from the menus, I get the splash screen and then nothing, the IDE never comes up. So, I switched to a terminal, ran startlazarus and got the following output. [WARNING] Out of OEM specific VK codes, changing to unassigned [WARNING] Out of unassigned VK codes, assigning $FF TLazarusManager.Run starting /usr/lib/lazarus/0.9.28.2/lazarus ... Runtime error 203 at $00736A16 $00736A16 $00720991 OK, maybe it's an old version. I downloaded the latest .DEBs from SourceForge, and installed those. No change in the symptoms (well, OK, I can't say the addresses were exactly the same, but the bit about the VK codes was, and it was still a runtime error 203). I cleaned out everything to do with Lazarus and FPC that I could find (using KFind to make sure I got everything) and had one more try with 0.9.28. As expected, still the same error. I know that 0.9.28 used to run on Mint 9 64-bit, but that was the Ubuntu-based version, not the Debian-based one. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this, please? Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus crashing reproducibly on startup (64-bit Linux)
On 03/18/2012 11:45 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: brian wrote: I've recently switched distros to Mint Debian 12 64-bit XFCE. This is on an AMD Phenom *4, 4 GB of RAM. When I was reinstalling stuff I noticed that the latest version of Lazarus that they have in the repo is 0.9.28, a bit old I know, but it works for what I do. So I installed 0.9.28, which also brought in FPC 2.4.0-2. When I try to run Lazarus from the menus, I get the splash screen and then nothing, the IDE never comes up. So, I switched to a terminal, ran startlazarus and got the following output. [WARNING] Out of OEM specific VK codes, changing to unassigned [WARNING] Out of unassigned VK codes, assigning $FF TLazarusManager.Run starting /usr/lib/lazarus/0.9.28.2/lazarus ... Runtime error 203 at $00736A16 $00736A16 $00720991 OK, maybe it's an old version. I downloaded the latest .DEBs from SourceForge, and installed those. No change in the symptoms (well, OK, I can't say the addresses were exactly the same, but the bit about the VK codes was, and it was still a runtime error 203). I cleaned out everything to do with Lazarus and FPC that I could find (using KFind to make sure I got everything) and had one more try with 0.9.28. As expected, still the same error. I know that 0.9.28 used to run on Mint 9 64-bit, but that was the Ubuntu-based version, not the Debian-based one. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this, please? Starting at a shell prompt, if you load Lazarus in gdb, run it, wait for the crash and then use GDB's bt command to get a backtrace, do the first few lines say anything useful? Probably not, but this is what was produced using V0.9.28 paste run Starting program: /usr/bin/startlazarus [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x005a2879 in ?? () (gdb) bt #0 0x005a2879 in ?? () #1 0x7fffe1c0 in ?? () #2 0x77de902c in ?? () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 #3 0x00502b31 in ?? () #4 0x7577dead in __libc_start_main () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 #5 0x in ?? () (gdb) /paste Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] repository error
Not sure whether this is the right place to post this, or whether anyone cares about it, but my update manager has been failing for a couple of weeks now, I'm running Linux Mint 9 64-bit, the error message is Failed to fetch http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/dists/lazarus-stable/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] repository error
On 09/18/2011 01:55 PM, Vincent Snijders wrote: 2011/9/18 brianbr...@meadows.pair.com: Not sure whether this is the right place to post this, or whether anyone cares about it, but my update manager has been failing for a couple of weeks now, I'm running Linux Mint 9 64-bit, the error message is Failed to fetch http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/dists/lazarus-stable/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch Thanks for reporting. I think I fixed it. Hi Vincent, Just to confirm an apt-get update now completes without errors. Thanks, Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Problems with the v0.9.30 AMD 64 DEBs on Sourceforge
On 04/07/2011 01:31 PM, Flávio Etrusco wrote: ... You could use the lazarus repository for debian/ubuntu: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_release_version_for_Ubuntu At the point at which I started trying to do the installation, the repositories were still offering 0.9.28-2 Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Problems with the v0.9.30 AMD 64 DEBs on Sourceforge
Hi all, I downloaded and installed the AMD 64 DEBs from Sourceforge, cleaned off my 0.9.28 setup onto DVD and then installed v0.9.30 from scratch. The process has been a bit fraught. :( This is all using Linux Mint 9, which is a fork from Ubuntu. The first problem was that installing the DEBs gives a couple of unresolved dependencies, basically the QT4 stuff. Don't use QT4, so I can ignore that, Lazarus still started up OK after a apt-get -f, so no worries there. Next thing missing was one package, pack_powerpdf or something like that, but I knew I'd seen that in the CCR, so no problems, download and install that. Then there were a few file and directory permissions to be changed. Now the problem which has got me stuck - trying to rebuild Lazarus from within the IDE, I get an error /usr/lib/lazarus/0.9.30/ide/idecmdline.pas(1,1) Fatal: Can't find unit exploreidemenu used by Lazarus This is NOT some kind of mangled path problem - I used Dolphin to do a *case-insensitive* search of my *entire* file system for exploreidemenu.* No files were found. So, my question - I did, yes **I DID**, install all the .DEBs within those two files on Sourceforge, including both the FPC and the Lazarus sources. I don't want to end up with an incompatible set of sources, and I've not enough experience with Lazarus to want to work through building everything from an SVN download. Does anyone know if/where I can get a set of the sources used to build the release of Lazarus that's available on Sourceforge, so that I can try to fix the problem myself? Thanks, Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Problems with the v0.9.30 AMD 64 DEBs on Sourceforge
Hi Mattias, On 04/05/2011 06:48 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: brian br...@meadows.pair.com hat am 5. April 2011 um 11:11 geschrieben: Hi all, I downloaded and installed the AMD 64 DEBs from Sourceforge, cleaned off my 0.9.28 setup onto DVD and then installed v0.9.30 from scratch. The process has been a bit fraught. :( This is all using Linux Mint 9, which is a fork from Ubuntu. The first problem was that installing the DEBs gives a couple of unresolved dependencies, basically the QT4 stuff. Don't use QT4, so I can ignore that, Lazarus still started up OK after a apt-get -f, so no worries there. Perhaps you tried to install the lcl-qt4-0.9.30_0.9.30-0_i386.deb ? Unquestionably. As you know, the files on SourceForge unpack to 19 .debs (FreePascal) and 13 .debs (Lazarus) with no indication as to whether there's any particular order in which to install them. I just took the unsubtle approach, unpacked each into their own subdirectory and then ran a couple of sudo dpkg -i *.deb, first on the FreePascal directory and then on the Lazarus directory, figuring that if there was any sensitivity as to the installation order, the second pass would probably fix it. Next thing missing was one package, pack_powerpdf or something like that, but I knew I'd seen that in the CCR, so no problems, download and install that. Then there were a few file and directory permissions to be changed. Can you give some more details? Maybe this can be added to the installation hints. I'm afraid I didn't keep a note of them. I do remember that there was an x86_64-linux somewhere in the path, but that won't come as too much of a surprise to you. :) Since I'm the only user of this PC, I just said the hell with it, did a recursive chown on /usr/lib/lazarus and had no further problems. The unit Exploreidemenu is an example package (examples/exploremenu). It is not installed by default. Problably you had it installed in a former version and the IDE tried to restore your old set of packages. It's hard for me to prove a negative, but I really did take pains to remove the old version - I did an apt-get purge on both fpc and lazarus, and then did a search on both and removed anything else I could find. The debian package maintainer has set all packages (lpk files) to compile manually, even those that the debian packages not provided in compiled form (ppu files). Either uninstall the package exploreidemenu or open the package and compile it manually. I will give that a try, thanks. On Sourceforge are debs, rpms and zip. The zip contains only the sources. Ah. I'd missed the zip file. Thanks for the pointer. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Problems with the v0.9.30 AMD 64 DEBs on Sourceforge
On 04/05/2011 09:20 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: brian br...@meadows.pair.com hat am 5. April 2011 um 14:54 geschrieben: ... The dpkg is clever enough to order the packages automatically. Unfortunately the debian packages are made for repositories, which is somewhat awkward for downloaders. OTOH if you use repositories the debian packages are really great. The repositories configured for Mint are still offering 0.9.28-2. The old lazarus stored your user configs in ~/.lazarus. There is also the list of your installed packages. This list is applied when you rebuild the IDE. I just checked the timestamps in that directory, and of course you're correct. Obviously apt-get's attempt to purge the configuration files from the previous installation was a bit short of comprehensive. I should have thought of a hidden directory and checked... :( Eventually there should be a check and a dialog to help migrating old package sets. Although I'm not sure how this should work. The one thing I did note is that I had the 'build lazarus' configuration set to NOT do anything with the examples. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] fpchess
To communicate with internet chess servers that are compatible with ICC/FICS I
know zippy
but it is for engines, and not for human players, the code are embedded in the
xbord/winboard interfaces:
http://tim-mann.org/zippy.html
(and, of course, it is not written in Pascal)
But the software behind FICS is free software, and many interfaces are free too.
I will try to improve the project but I'm still a newbie in Lazarus.
And I don't know if I should do that but I comment the line {$R *.res} to make
the program to compile, I'm using Fedora 14 64bits. I guess you compiled in
windows, right?.
Regards,
Brian Chalega da Silva
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:23:11 +0100
Subject: Re: [Lazarus] fpchess
From: felipemonteiro.carva...@gmail.com
To: brianchal...@hotmail.com
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Brian Chalega da Silva
brianchal...@hotmail.com wrote:
The compiler don't find the TUNBPage component.
Rename it to TPage in the pas file and in the LFM file
The same for TUntabbedNotebook - TNotebook
Would be more difficult, but I think that will be necessary to add
connection with
one server like FICS or ICC to make this program more atractive.
You mean one of those internet chess servers? I read that this is an
option, but I couldn't find any documentation about how to communicate
with them.
--
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
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[Lazarus] fpchess
Hi, I read here: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Free_Pascal_Application_Suite About the fpChess an chess application under development by Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho, but I don't find information about that in anywhere else, this project still exist? Regards. Brian Chalega -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] fpchess
I'm having this problem: http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?topic=12148.0 The compiler don't find the TUNBPage component. Also I had to add the class Process in the uses clause of the chesstcputils. Would be more difficult, but I think that will be necessary to add connection with one server like FICS or ICC to make this program more atractive. Thanks for the reply, Brian Chalega. Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:54:32 +0100 Subject: Re: [Lazarus] fpchess From: felipemonteiro.carva...@gmail.com To: lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org CC: brianchal...@hotmail.com I put a link where you can download it here: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/fpChess I started writing it, but at some point got stuck trying to implement internet playing and recently I've been very busy at work, so I had no time for anything... You can download and build it and check what is missing. I think that the drawing is implemented, and even basic piece moving, although probably without restrictions. patches are welcome =) -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] VK codes error message
I have a fairly simple Lazarus program, just a few edit boxes on a form to enter some filenames and then it's doing a bunch of simple manipulations on a text file. Using Linux Mint 9 (a fork from Ubuntu), Free Pascal 2.4.0 and Lazarus 0.9.28.2, all 64-bit versions, when I run the program from konsole (run from within GNOME) I get the following messages, before the program (appears to?) run correctly [WARNING] Out of OEM specific VK codes, changing to unassigned [WARNING] Out of unassigned VK codes, assigning $FF Can anyone tell me what's going on? The only things I can find about VK codes pertain to Windows. Thanks, Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Tagging 0.9.30
Vincent, Does this proposed new release run all the included examples on all the supported operating systems correctly? I am particularly interested in the Mac OS X i386 version. Brian Prentice On Feb 22, 2011, at 4:51 AM, Vincent Snijders wrote: Hi, The last call for testing on the Lazarus list didn't reveal any important new issues, I propose to tag the current fixes_0_9_30 branch without any further additions for the 0.9.30 release tonight or tomorrow. Any objections? Vincent -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Project conversion Delphi - FreePascal: success!
On 01/05/2011 10:18 PM, waldo kitty wrote: On 1/5/2011 12:33, Micha Nelissen wrote: Bo Berglund wrote: 2) The fortran code failed to translate when it turned out that Fortran could change the type of a matrix multiplication depending on the dimensions of the two input matrices. You couldn't translate the code or the function declarations? Calling the fortran code from freepascal might be possible, then you don't have to translate the code itself, just call it. this was discussed but IIRC it seemed that determining the proper calling procedures came up... if the library wasn't callable in pascal or C format or some such... one would need to be able to compile those libraries in a FPC/Lazarus compatible format for the normal callouts (is that the proper term) to work... since this was hard to do (ie: no compiler with this capability??) it was looked into that those routines could be recoded in pascal format... this too has not been able to be done because there's no available FORTRAN - PASCAL coder who can make the conversion... Many moons ago, when I was writing projects in both FORTRAN and Pascal on a DEC PDP-11, the limitations of the hardware were such that we used to have to compile to assembler and then patch breakpoints into the code in order to debug it. Things have almost certainly changed since those days, but I do remember that while the Pascal compiler we used pushed and popped parameters via the stack, as you would expect, the FORTRAN compiler instead pointed a register at a parameter list in memory. The compilers then were DEC's FORTRAN-IV-PLUS and Oregon Pascal, which DEC later bought and renamed RSX Pascal. I also had to do some digging into assembly language listings from Hewlett-Packard's FORTRAN-1000 compiler running under RTE-A, and found that used the same technique, passing a pointer to a parameter list via a register. This is all ancient history now, I'm talking about back in the 1980s, but it may be relevant to doing parameter list conversions. I don't know how much of my FORTRAN I can remember, but I do know that mismatched COMMON blocks were a superb way of having your program disappear up its own CPU stack, I ended up putting in place a standard whereby all COMMON blocks had to be declared in an INCLUDE file, so that there was no possibility of mismatches. FORTRAN's parameter and type checking made C (note, no ++) look good. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus
Vincent, That is a ridiculous statement and is one of the main reasons why this project is such a miserable failure. All formal releases should be stable. What is needed is a comprehensive test suit that covers all features of Lazarus. This test software should be used for regression testing and run on all platforms whenever new features are added. Also new tests should be added to the suit to test these new features. If this is done all that is required is to obtain a clean run of this test suit on all platforms before each formal release. As a bonus the test suit should be included with each release to provide clear examples of how to use Lazarus. The other main reason why this project is going nowhere is because the stated goal to write once and compile everywhere is completely incompatible with the desire to follow the native interface and design guidelines of each operating system that is supported. The project is further badly hindered by the stubborn refusal of the designers to implement Layout Managers. Brian Prentice On Sun 19/12/10 06:40 , Vincent Snijders vincent.snijd...@gmail.com sent: 2010/12/18 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com: To Vincent, This is the exact thing I am talking about. Saying a stable release is a few weeks away, things like this should not be happening in Trunk. The mailing list is full of such reports. I guess I am eager to release when it is ready. If it is ready, I don't want to wait for weeks to be sure it is stable. Vincent -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Error message
Hi, I get the following error message when I try to run a test program: C:\Lazarus\LcL\forms.pp(45,3) Error: source not found: unit C\Lazarus\fpc\2.2.4\units\i386-win32\flc-base\gettext.ppu The file referred to gettext.ppu is in the folder indicated by the error message. How do I resolve this error? Thanks for your help. Brian Smart -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Resolve an error message
Hi, When I try to add an event to a button added to my program, I get the following error message: C:\Lazarus\LcL\forms.pp(45,3) Error: source not found: unit C\Lazarus\fpc\2.2.4\units\i386-win32\flc-base\gettext.ppu The file indicated is in the directory listed. How to I resolve this error? Thanks BrianS -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Embedded database for Lazarus/Linux
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, brian wrote: Birger Jansen wrote: Something like Firebird Embedded? http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/fb_embedded2_Laz It seems not. Quoting from the first line of the introduction Currently, fb_embedded2.pas works only on Windows. As per my post, I already know the answer if I have to use Windows. I'm looking for something which works under ***Linux***. I don't know where you read it, but it's definitely false. or outdated. firebird embedded works on linux, windows, mac. Follow the link which Birger sent me (above). The introduction is right near the top of the Wiki article. But anyway, if you say it works, OK, I'll give FB embedded a try. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Embedded database for Lazarus/Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I suspect I already know the answer to this, but is anyone aware of an *embedded* database for Lazarus and Linux, similar to NexusDB for Delphi and Windows for example (http://www.nexusdb.com)? The need is to be able to distribute a database application as a single program, no installation of MySQL or similar can be assumed. Thanks, Brian. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkwYuxMACgkQDLwN6j3kblbgfQCfeEzsFQ3R0s1EgAkS+MyoRuZ1 GQ4AoMt3BN8QvVPh2wS4ZO0HkfCJT4ph =THc6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Embedded database for Lazarus/Linux
Henry Vermaak wrote: On 16 June 2010 12:53, brian br...@meadows.pair.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I suspect I already know the answer to this, but is anyone aware of an *embedded* database for Lazarus and Linux, similar to NexusDB for Delphi and Windows for example (http://www.nexusdb.com)? The need is to be able to distribute a database application as a single program, no installation of MySQL or similar can be assumed. Try sqlite. It's completely free and only requires one dll (afaik). Well, sqlite does at least have a Linux distribution! Thanks - I'll do a bit of digging. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Misleading error message
Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:33:30 -0500 brian br...@meadows.pair.com wrote: Hi all, Since it seems I have some kind of compatibility problem preventing my using mantis, I'm going to describe what seems at least a VERY misleading error message, if not actually a bug. Hopefully someone associated with the software will notice it. I'm using Lazarus 64-bit v 0.9.28.2-0 beta (so it says) and FPC 2.2.4 under Kubuntu 9.1, BTW. I know it's old, but that's apparently the latest that has been packaged for 64-bit Kubuntu. I should also say that I started with computers in the mid-1970s, so I have some archaic ways of doing things. :) One of those is putting an include file with some global definitions in ALL of my source units, and I include it with an absolute path, /home/brian/sources/Lazarus/defines.inc to be exact. I changed a $define in there a few days ago, and when I next compiled the project, I got a dialog pop up stating that the include file couldn't be found. Huh? *Of course* it was there... After much head-scratching, I looked carefully through the file, and found that I must have used the scroll wheel on my mouse, because pasted in the middle of the include file was a chunk of obviously invalid text (the scroll wheel acts as the center button, and if I press rather than scroll, it does a 'paste'). I deleted the text, and all was back to normal, but that's the problem. An obvious syntax error in an include file, instead of generating an error, pops up a dialog saying that there's no such include file. In my case, it looked to the compiler like an identifier when 'interface' was expected. It would be an improvement to have no pop-up dialog at all, then I would have looked at the underlying messages, and found the syntax error. Please create a FPC bug report and add a small example. This way it will be fixed soon. Please read again the first sentence of my posting. I have forwarded you more details via private e-mail. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Misleading error message
Hi all, Since it seems I have some kind of compatibility problem preventing my using mantis, I'm going to describe what seems at least a VERY misleading error message, if not actually a bug. Hopefully someone associated with the software will notice it. I'm using Lazarus 64-bit v 0.9.28.2-0 beta (so it says) and FPC 2.2.4 under Kubuntu 9.1, BTW. I know it's old, but that's apparently the latest that has been packaged for 64-bit Kubuntu. I should also say that I started with computers in the mid-1970s, so I have some archaic ways of doing things. :) One of those is putting an include file with some global definitions in ALL of my source units, and I include it with an absolute path, /home/brian/sources/Lazarus/defines.inc to be exact. I changed a $define in there a few days ago, and when I next compiled the project, I got a dialog pop up stating that the include file couldn't be found. Huh? *Of course* it was there... After much head-scratching, I looked carefully through the file, and found that I must have used the scroll wheel on my mouse, because pasted in the middle of the include file was a chunk of obviously invalid text (the scroll wheel acts as the center button, and if I press rather than scroll, it does a 'paste'). I deleted the text, and all was back to normal, but that's the problem. An obvious syntax error in an include file, instead of generating an error, pops up a dialog saying that there's no such include file. In my case, it looked to the compiler like an identifier when 'interface' was expected. It would be an improvement to have no pop-up dialog at all, then I would have looked at the underlying messages, and found the syntax error. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Installing Lazarus
Hi, Thanks for all the help re the installation of Lazarus. All OK now. Regards Brian Smart -Original Message- From: John vd Waeter [mailto:j...@jvdw.nl] Sent: 16 November 2009 11:33 To: Lazarus mailing list Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Installing Lazarus Hi Brian, I had the about the same problem... found this one: http://unplugd.com/install_lazarus.html but not sure if its completely ok.. Also make sure you don't have older versions of lazarus or older versions of settings .lazaraus in homedir hanging around goodluck, John Brian Smart wrote: Hi, As a new Linux user with Ubuntu 9.04, I am trying to install Lazarus. I am becoming totally confused. Can somebody explain in simple steps, exactly what I need to do, including the installation of any required packages. I have looked on the list but all the instructions seen to assume that the reader is an experienced Linux user. Thanks for your help. Brian -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- John vd Waeter www.jvdw.nl www.gps-carpool.net www.shotinthedark.nl www.pdaforms.nl www.dbapocket.nl j...@jvdw.nl -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Goal
My point about showing the differences in the dialogs, one acceptable and one clearly not acceptable, is that the solution seems to require the construction of two dialogs one for OS X and one for WindowsXP. Perhaps I'm wrong here but if I'm right this violates the Lazarus and FPC goal of write once. I don't want to start a war here but as you probably know Java has solved this problem nicely with layout managers. If layout managers were implemented in Lazarus the IDE would also be simpler, an additional advantage. Earlier in this thread it was stated that when designing an application consideration should be given to the differences in the underlying operating systems. This might be true but if you do this you severly weaken the stated goal which would then read something like: 'Lazarus and Free Pascal aim to be write once, compile anywhere for those programs which only use the supported operating system features that share a common design'. Surely a better approach for Lazarus and FPC is to hide operating system difference from users. Brian -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Lazarus Goal
Is this statement 'Lazarus and Free Pascal aim to be write once, compile anywhere' still a goal? If so can someone please provide me with the source code of a non trivial program which runs on Windows, Linux and OS X (Intel) using the current stable software available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/files/ Brian Prentice -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Examples
Here is the result of opening the first example address_book http://linuxenvy.com/bprentice/Lazarus/Snapshot%202009-11-11%2006-18-48.jpg Brian On Nov 11, 2009, at 6:09 AM, Vincent Snijders wrote: Brian Prentice schreef: I have recently installed fpc 2.2.4 and lazarus 0.9.28.2 on my intel mac which is running OS X 10.5.8 from here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/files/ Included with this software are examples which are installed in directory /Developer/lazarus/examples. I've tried some of these examples and those that I've tried don't work! Can someone please tell me which examples should work, which examples require modification to get them to work and which examples will not work. In general all example in that directory should work. What error messages do you get? What problems do you have? Vincent -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Examples
Thank you for your replies on this matter. No one addressed the underlying problem here. I believe that all the examples should be run prior to a major release and those that do not run should be removed. This should be a significant part of regression testing. This was clearly not done on the Intel Mac version and from your replies has never been done for this version. My original request repeated below remains unanswered. I have recently installed fpc 2.2.4 and lazarus 0.9.28.2 on my intel mac which is running OS X 10.5.8 from here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/files/ Included with this software are examples which are installed in directory /Developer/lazarus/examples. I've tried some of these examples and those that I've tried don't work! Can someone please tell me which examples should work, which examples require modification to get them to work and which examples will not work. Brian-- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Goal
On Nov 11, 2009, at 6:18 AM, Vincent Snijders wrote: I don't believe that Lazarus is an example. Here is a program that Compiles and runs under Windows XP and compiles but does not run under OS X on an Intel Mac. http://linuxenvy.com/bprentice/Lazarus/LazarusSquareCell.zip I suspect that there are many more examples. Brian 2009/11/11 Brian Prentice bprent...@webenet.net: Is this statement 'Lazarus and Free Pascal aim to be write once, compile anywhere' still a goal? If so can someone please provide me with the source code of a non trivial program which runs on Windows, Linux and OS X (Intel) using the current stable software available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/files/ One of the them is Lazarus, download the source from http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/files/ :-) Vincent -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Latest version of Lazarus for Mandriva 2008.0?
Vincent Snijders wrote: brian schreef: Thanks, Vincent, but unfortunately getting GTK 2.8 to build also requires a whole bunch of upgrades - it needs a later GLIB than I have for starters, and it all cascades down from there. What version of gtk 2.x and gtk 1.x is installed on your system? 2.4 and 1.2 Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Latest version of Lazarus for Mandriva 2008.0?
Vincent Snijders wrote: brian schreef: Vincent Snijders wrote: brian schreef: Thanks, Vincent, but unfortunately getting GTK 2.8 to build also requires a whole bunch of upgrades - it needs a later GLIB than I have for starters, and it all cascades down from there. What version of gtk 2.x and gtk 1.x is installed on your system? 2.4 and 1.2 Then you have the option to use gtk1 and compile Lazarus with: make all LCL_PLATFORM=gtk Thank you. I will give it a whirl. Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Latest version of Lazarus for Mandriva 2008.0?
I have a PC which seems to have some strange feature whereby versions of the Linux kernel newer than 2.6.22.19 will give clusters of NMIs because it thinks my CPU is in some strange mode (so the error message tells me). Mandriva's tech support have given up on the problem, and told me to flag it as a kernel bug, which I've done, but it means that my planned upgrade is a non-starter, and I'm locked into Mandriva 2008.0 (even 2008.1 will cause the problem). I tried the latest version of Mint as an alternative, but the same problem occurs. So, a simple question. Does anyone know what would be the latest version of Lazarus and Free Pascal that I can run? Yes, there *is* a limit - for example, I tried to install WINE, and couldn't do so without the installer wanted to wipe out half of my base KDE setup as part of the upgrade. :( Trying to install the latest Lazarus caused the same type of problem. Thanks, Brian. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
