Re: [lazarus] Delphi Source/Samples/*.pas units

2007-10-31 Thread Tiziano_mk

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:

To ALL developers,

I got confirmation from Dave Nottage on the borland non-technical
newsgroup that ALL source code included in Delphi are copyright
material, including the sample units. Only files mentioned in the
deploy text file as redistributable are allowed.



This matter should go in a new page in the FPC/Lazarus wiki...

...along with guidelines to help re-building of new units/components in 
respect of other author's copyrights?


Someone have some hints about that?

tiziano

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Re: [lazarus] Delphi Source/Samples/*.pas units

2007-10-30 Thread ik
On 10/30/07, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To ALL developers,
>
> I got confirmation from Dave Nottage on the borland non-technical
> newsgroup that ALL source code included in Delphi are copyright
> material, including the sample units. Only files mentioned in the
> deploy text file as redistributable are allowed.

It was expected, and it's kinda sad. I think that all over the history
development of open source products that are collapse to Borland,
Borland always choose not to give any type of support for the
development etc.. and sometimes they are too quite with their
reactions... With free-vision there where also some legal issues as
well...

But that's another discussion..

>
> [ Forwarded email ]---
>
> > > Could somebody please tell me if I am allowed to use those as public
> > > domain in Open Source projects?
>
> You're not allowed to distribute *any* of the source files.
>
> --
>
> Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
>
> > > I would like an official reference please.
>
> For CodeGear RAD Studio, Section 3 of license.rtf. In particular, 3.1.
> Also refer to Deploy.htm for descriptions of files that can be
> redistributed.
> ---
>
>
> Regards,
>   - Graeme -
>
>
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Re: [lazarus] Delphi Source/Samples/*.pas units

2007-10-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
To ALL developers,

I got confirmation from Dave Nottage on the borland non-technical
newsgroup that ALL source code included in Delphi are copyright
material, including the sample units. Only files mentioned in the
deploy text file as redistributable are allowed.

[ Forwarded email ]---

> > Could somebody please tell me if I am allowed to use those as public
> > domain in Open Source projects?

You're not allowed to distribute *any* of the source files.

--

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:

> > I would like an official reference please.

For CodeGear RAD Studio, Section 3 of license.rtf. In particular, 3.1.
Also refer to Deploy.htm for descriptions of files that can be
redistributed.
---


Regards,
  - Graeme -


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Re: [lazarus] Delphi Source/Samples/*.pas units

2007-10-29 Thread Joao Morais

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:

I'll try and find a support email for CodeGear and see
what they say.


Try borland.public.delphi.non-technical at newsgroups.borland.com.

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Re: [lazarus] Delphi Source/Samples/*.pas units

2007-10-29 Thread Giuliano Colla

Graeme Geldenhuys ha scritto:

On 29/10/2007, Marc Weustink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

My first thought would be that they are copy protected by Borland, but
they don't seem to have the usual copy protection header in the units.
So could they be public domain?
  

I don't know, I treat them as they are.
Better ask Borland.



Thanks Marc.  I'll try and find a support email for CodeGear and see
what they say. The reason I ask, is because I got the same issue as
you did two days ago. I got a code contribution which is a near exact
copy of the gauge.pas unit and don't want to study it to hard or
commit it to the fpGUI repository until I know the legal issues with
using those Sample units.


Regards,
  - Graeme -


  
FWIW, of the components in the Samples directory of Delphi 4 (the one I 
have at hand), colorgrid.pas has a Copyright notice, and so do 
ibctrls.pas, ibevnts.pas ibproc32.pas, while the other units (i.e. 
calendar.pas, diroutln.pas, gauges.pas ibconst.pas and spin.pas) do not.


As far as gauges.pas is concerned, if I remember well, they should be 
ashamed of coypyrighting it, because they didn't even bother to test it: 
as it was it didn't work, because of some error I don't remember.


Giuliano

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Re: [lazarus] Delphi Source/Samples/*.pas units

2007-10-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 29/10/2007, Marc Weustink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My first thought would be that they are copy protected by Borland, but
> > they don't seem to have the usual copy protection header in the units.
> > So could they be public domain?
>
> I don't know, I treat them as they are.
> Better ask Borland.

Thanks Marc.  I'll try and find a support email for CodeGear and see
what they say. The reason I ask, is because I got the same issue as
you did two days ago. I got a code contribution which is a near exact
copy of the gauge.pas unit and don't want to study it to hard or
commit it to the fpGUI repository until I know the legal issues with
using those Sample units.


Regards,
  - Graeme -


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Re: [lazarus] Delphi Source/Samples/*.pas units

2007-10-29 Thread Marc Weustink

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:

Hi,

Anybody know if we may use the following units or are they copy
protected by Borland as well?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:$ pwd
/mnt/windows/Program Files/Borland/Delphi7/Source/Samples


[snip]


My first thought would be that they are copy protected by Borland, but
they don't seem to have the usual copy protection header in the units.
So could they be public domain?


I don't know, I treat them as they are.
Better ask Borland.

Marc

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[lazarus] Delphi Source/Samples/*.pas units

2007-10-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi,

Anybody know if we may use the following units or are they copy
protected by Borland as well?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:$ pwd
/mnt/windows/Program Files/Borland/Delphi7/Source/Samples
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:$ ls -l
total 104
-r-xr-x--- 1 root plugdev  8605 2002-08-20 18:40 Calendar.pas
-r-xr-x--- 1 root plugdev 17123 2002-08-20 18:40 ColorGrd.pas
-r-xr-x--- 1 root plugdev 10948 2002-08-20 18:40 DirOutln.pas
-r-xr-x--- 1 root plugdev 10980 2002-08-20 18:40 Gauges.pas
-r-xr-x--- 1 root plugdev   787 2002-08-20 18:40 IBConst.pas
-r-xr-x--- 1 root plugdev 13867 2002-08-20 18:40 IBCtrls.pas
-r-xr-x--- 1 root plugdev  2138 2002-08-20 18:40 IBEvnts.pas
-r-xr-x--- 1 root plugdev  4082 2002-08-20 18:40 IBProc32.pas
-r-xr-x--- 1 root plugdev 17538 2002-08-20 18:40 Spin.pas


My first thought would be that they are copy protected by Borland, but
they don't seem to have the usual copy protection header in the units.
So could they be public domain?


Regards,
  - Graeme -


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