RE: [Ldsoss] Boy Scouts get a Respect Copyrights activity badge
I guess they feel that they are losing money to the internet culture and that they need to re-educate people that it is wrong to steal. While 30 years ago, truly honest people would never have dared photocopy a book (even if it was free and instantaneous), the internet culture has changed that mindset. This new culture has given us other 'experts' such as Napster, torrents, etc. that make it technologically easy to do what once was considered wrong by the mainstream. I remember church talks telling us that it was wrong to steal cable TV. The response of some was, oh, come on, they're not actually losing money on me, because I wouldn't subscribe anyway and it doesn't really cost them more for just 1 more viewer... It was still stealing even though some had really compelling rationalizations... What's interesting about this particular piece is that Hollywood is taking an explain and educate angle rather than a more confrontational intimidate and litigate. That's a noteworthy twist given how much piracy costs Hollywood. If the next generation of net user grows up having learned that it is wrong to copy [not just photocopy], then we may just end up with less litigation and that would be a good thing. Wouldn't it? Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan Murdock Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:51 PM To: LDS Open Source Software Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Boy Scouts get a Respect Copyrights activity badge The movie industry has developed the curriculum. Oh good, an impartial and fair party, experts in law and the constitution. :-P Bryan ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Boy Scouts get a Respect Copyrights activity badge
Sounds good to me, depending on how you look at it. Giving away freely is celestial. Stealing is telestial. Respecting property rights is terrestrial. The world aspires to keep a terrestrial law. On 10/23/06, Steven H. McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess they feel that they are losing money to the internet culture andthat they need to re-educate people that it is wrong to steal.While 30years ago, truly honest people would never have dared photocopy a book (even if it was free and instantaneous), the internet culture has changed thatmindset.This new culture has given us other 'experts' such as Napster,torrents, etc. that make it technologically easy to do what once was considered wrong by the mainstream.I remember church talks telling us that it was wrong to steal cable TV.Theresponse of some was, oh, come on, they're not actually losing money on me,because I wouldn't subscribe anyway and it doesn't really cost them more for just 1 more viewer...It was still stealing even though some had reallycompelling rationalizations...What's interesting about this particular piece is that Hollywood is takingan explain and educate angle rather than a more confrontational intimidate and litigate.That's a noteworthy twist given how much piracycosts Hollywood.If the next generation of net user grows up having learned that it is wrongto copy [not just photocopy], then we may just end up with less litigation and that would be a good thing.Wouldn't it?Steve-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bryan MurdockSent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:51 PMTo: LDS Open Source SoftwareSubject: Re: [Ldsoss] Boy Scouts get a Respect Copyrights activity badge The movie industry has developed the curriculum.Oh good, an impartial and fair party, experts in law and the constitution.:-PBryan___ Ldsoss mailing listLdsoss@lists.ldsoss.orghttp://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss___ Ldsoss mailing listLdsoss@lists.ldsoss.orghttp://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss -- Tom Haws 480-201-5476Who is your teacher? ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Boy Scouts get a Respect Copyrights activity badge
On AD 2006 October 23 Monday 01:34:29 AM -0600, Steven H. McCown wrote: I guess they feel that they are losing money to the internet culture and that they need to re-educate people that it is wrong to steal. While 30 years ago, truly honest people would never have dared photocopy a book (even if it was free and instantaneous), the internet culture has changed that mindset. This new culture has given us other 'experts' such as Napster, torrents, etc. that make it technologically easy to do what once was considered wrong by the mainstream. I don't think the whole issue here is to steal or not to steal. The issue is also the abuse of copyright law and changes made to copyright law that harm the public domain and the original intent of copyright. I think the movie studios want to redefine the debate in terms of stealing and pirating to cover up their own nefarious law changing tactics, the produce of pork dealing senators, with a rhetoric that smacks of a sinister propaganda just so they can incriminate (filesharing) and cripple (DRM) new technology that *should* have been beneficial to society. I don't believe that you can't make money in movies without DRM and DCMA, not for a single instant. Copyright is no longer a fair deal. Lifetime plus copyright terms only enshrine content into a staple income supporting entities that are too lazy to figure out a real livelihood. The ironic effect is that those who demand and get greater and greater control over their creations will successfully cut themselves off from culture and posterity by their legal and technical protections. Justin ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
