Re: [Leaf-devel] dachstein rc1 cd won't boot.

2001-10-12 Thread arne @ loopback . org

On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 03:30:28PM -0500, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> i just had a look and a i like the idea of putting this on CD (We are
> selling our systems with an IDE Flashdisk, though). But,
> i would like to see the config scripts be seperate from the configs itself,
> thats one difference to the release i made for myself.
> 
> CS> What exactly do you mean here?

AB> Well i mean that in LRP 2.9.8 you have only the settings in the network.conf
(e.g. IF0_IFNAME=...) and not functions defined like in Dachstein.
I find this confusing. i have only "real config files" as network.conf and
network_direct.conf and all the shell script stuff in /etc/init.d/network.
But thats caused by the base (LRP 2.9.8) too...
Is it now clearer ?? 

> 
>  The other is of course Kernel 2.4...
> 
> CS> I plan on re-working pretty much everything and making a 2.4 kernel
> based firewall, with uClibc (for small floppies & limited functionality
> systems) and optional support for current glibc libraries for folks with the
> space and need to run it.

AB> Sounds nice. i am dreaming of that since half a year, but i could not get
the needed binary to compile with uClibc (i needed isdnutils and especially
the ipsec stuff and iptables. Did not get this to work). And i do not want
to use any Firewall systems with kernel 2.2, 2.4 is so much easier and
cooler for the way i design my rules...

> 
> CS> I'll change this in the next release.  As a seperate issue, would it be
> better to use the package names, or stick with the numbers, or maybe even
> support both (should be possible, as long as no-one makes a 3.lrp package
> :)?  Also, you can use E and L (upper or lower case) for package "numbers"
> with the b, d, and t commands, as well (this may also not be obvious).
> 

AB> i think package names are to long (so much characters to type in ;-)

> CS> Actually, I couldn't wait...Being a firm believer in the concept that
> things should work as expected, I modified the script to accept either a
> package name or number, with the following package names as special cases:
> e E all everything - Backup all packages
> l L - Backup everything but logs
> 
> Now, whatever you think  is, the scripts will probably do what you
> want...this functionality will be in the next release.

yep, sound good.

Are you planning to upgrade to a new busybox version ?? It works o.k. for me
(including bb ifconfig and bb route and even ash). If you would use even
init and syslogd from bb root.lrp gets quite small, and i think the
functionality is o.k for a router , or am i wrong ??

> 
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> http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
> http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)
> 

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Re: [Leaf-devel] Holy Cow

2001-10-12 Thread speck

I remember that Rick was getting laid off and looking for work. You might ask our 
maillist manager if Rick's email is bouncing..

He used to hang out on the openprojects.net irc channel, so you could check there as 
well.

Like Ray, I was out of work myself when my contract ended 3 weeks ago, unlike Ray, I 
got VERY lucky and picked up another job a week later.  Very different envirnment, so 
it'll be interesting.

Heck, may even be able to afford xDSL again!  :)

Good luck Ray.  What are you looking for?  I realize it's a long shot, but if I hear 
of anything in the Bay Area, I'll hollar.

-sp



On Thu, 11 October 2001, Matt Schalit wrote:

> 
> Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> > 
> > Anyone seen or heard from Rick lately?  His domain name stopped resolving,
> > and his web-server seems to be down (even on port 81).  Anyone know what's
> > up?
> 
> 
>  I was wondering the same thing.  Where RickO and Ray0?
> Hopefully they're just busy earning $$.
> 
> Matt



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Re: [Leaf-devel] dachstein rc1 cd won't boot.

2001-10-12 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

i just had a look and a i like the idea of putting this on CD (We are
selling our systems with an IDE Flashdisk, though). But,
i would like to see the config scripts be seperate from the configs itself,
thats one difference to the release i made for myself.

CS> What exactly do you mean here?

 The other is of course Kernel 2.4...

CS> I plan on re-working pretty much everything and making a 2.4 kernel
based firewall, with uClibc (for small floppies & limited functionality
systems) and optional support for current glibc libraries for folks with the
space and need to run it.

But i like the new lrcfg interface it looks nice. But please change the
description there:
b ) Backup
d ) Set Backup Destination
and so on,

i tried multiple time to insert:
d root
...
 or something like that would be nicer...

CS> I'll change this in the next release.  As a seperate issue, would it be
better to use the package names, or stick with the numbers, or maybe even
support both (should be possible, as long as no-one makes a 3.lrp package
:)?  Also, you can use E and L (upper or lower case) for package "numbers"
with the b, d, and t commands, as well (this may also not be obvious).

CS> Actually, I couldn't wait...Being a firm believer in the concept that
things should work as expected, I modified the script to accept either a
package name or number, with the following package names as special cases:
e E all everything - Backup all packages
l L - Backup everything but logs

Now, whatever you think  is, the scripts will probably do what you
want...this functionality will be in the next release.

Charles Steinkuehler
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[Leaf-devel] Re: [Leaf-user] Dachstein-CD available

2001-10-12 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

> Regarding /etc/network.conf, what are the differences between LRP-CD and
> Dachstein-CD?
>
> Or, are all of the differences in the other scripts that call variables
> instantiated in network.conf?
>
> I ask this, because I am interested in quickly converting several
> instances of LRP-CD to Dachstein-CD -- of course, *after* extensive
> testing -- and I need to gauge the amount of effort required to convert
> network.conf . . .

In general, the Dachstein scripts are a superset of LRP-CD, which was based
on Eiger.  For upgrading, you have a few options:

1) Keep all of your existing configuration files.  You *should* be able to
simply replace the LRP-CD with a Dachstein-CD, and reboot, although you'll
probably have to modify etc in the lrpkg.cfg file on your floppy to be
etc:R, due to the new packaging scheme.  The big drawback to this is you
won't have the new network scripts, but there's nothing wrong with the
eiger-based LRP-CD scripts, if you don't need the extra functionality.  You
may also need to be careful about packages with init scripts.  If the init
scripts changed (I think this only applies to IPSec) you may have to merge
the changes manually.  I will typically boot w/o loading my local config in
this case, and manually unpack the config files to /tmp, then move them to
the appropriate location.  Of course many packages (like ssh) haven't
changed at all, so you can use your old configuration w/o worry.

2) Migrate the configuration information to the new CD.  This is mainly
merging the contents of /etc/network.conf to the new network.conf file.
There should be little or no change required to the variables in your
existing network.conf...the settings should just copy over.

3) Re-configure the system from scratch.  This really isn't too hard, but
you'll loose things like your ssh host ID, and IPSec private keys (assuming
you're using RSA keys for authentication).

What I would probably do, on a per-package basis:

bwidth22.lrp - No configuration needed
dhcpd.lrp - Identical...keep existing config
etc.lrp - create from scratch using Dachstein base & old config files
ipsec.lrp - manually copy old /etc/ipsec.* files to new package (when it
comes out :)
local.lrp - keep old config
log.lrp - no config necessary
modules.lrp - create from scratch using Dachstein base
nmbd-207.lrp - Identical...keep existing config
ramdisk.lrp - edit from Dachstein base, if required
root.lrp - no config required...use the new one :)
snmp.lrp - Identical...keep old config
socks5-c.lrp - Identical...keep old config
socks5.lrp - Identical...keep old config
ssh-1.lrp - Identical...keep old config
ssh1-key.lrp - Identical...keep old config
sshd-1.lrp - Identical...keep old config
update.lrp - Not required anymore...do not load

So...take a look at etc, modules, and ipsec from a configuration standpoint,
and edit your lrpkg.cfg file, removing update, changing etc to etc:R, and
adding any new packages you want.  I think that will do it...

Charles Steinkuehler
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[Leaf-devel] Re: [Leaf-user] Dachstein-CD available

2001-10-12 Thread Michael D. Schleif

Charles ==>

Regarding /etc/network.conf, what are the differences between LRP-CD and
Dachstein-CD?

Or, are all of the differences in the other scripts that call variables
instantiated in network.conf?

I ask this, because I am interested in quickly converting several
instances of LRP-CD to Dachstein-CD -- of course, *after* extensive
testing -- and I need to gauge the amount of effort required to convert
network.conf . . .

Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> 
> I have released a preliminary version of Dachstein-CD.  Based on Dachstein,
> LRP-CD, and extensive modifications to the backup scripts, it's getting
> easier than ever to boot from a CD.  The files, and some documentation are
> available from my website:
> http://lrp.steinkuehler.net/files/diskimages/dachstein-CD/
> 
> But if you're grabbing the CD image, you'll probably have better luck with
> the faster mirrors:
> http://lrp1.steinkuehler.net/files/diskimages/dachstein-CD/
> http://lrp2.steinkuehler.net/files/diskimages/dachstein-CD/
> 
> The mods are described in the README file, and the new backup system should
> be pretty easy to understand.  The big change is you can now select the
> desired backup type and destination on a per-package basis, making it easy
> to control the generation of full or partial (config information only)
> backups, and to save them to floppy, hard-disk, or where-ever.
> 
> I'm headed out of town for a long weekend (back Wedensday), so I may not be
> able to answer questions immediately.  Don't let that worry you though...the
> new system is much easer to use than the previous LRP-CD release, and I
> think anyone reasonably familiar with LRP won't get too lost.  The main
> thing to watch is getting your package path setting correct (remember, the
> kernel parameter is overridden by the pkgpath.cfg file on your floppy...see
> the README).
> 
> I don't have time to update my website to reflect the changes, so keep the
> links above handy for now, and get a jump on the rest of the world for being
> a LEAF list member!

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Re: [Leaf-devel] dachstein rc1 cd won't boot.

2001-10-12 Thread arne @ loopback . org

Hi, i am sending this only to the list, so you want get it twice...

On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 10:13:04AM -0500, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> CS>
> For some reason, the system is not automatically detecting your CD-Rom on
> /dev/hdd.  I'll try to re-create this here and fix the init-scripts (if
> they're broken), but in the meantime, you can probably get going with the
> following procedure:
> 
> Start with a blank floppy, or the bootdisk.bin image if your system won't
> boot from CD with a floppy disk in the drive.
> 
> Create a file called "pkgpath.cfg" on the blank floppy.
> 
> edit pkgpath.cfg, so it contains a single line with the text:
> /dev/hdd:iso9660
> NOTE:  This file may need a unix EOL...I'm not sure what will happen if the
> init script sees a carrige return as well as a line-feed...another thing to
> test :)

well as i do not have any non UNIX System here around (except for testing
ipsec clients), no Problem ;-)

Yes and this works! (with the pkgpath.cfg).

i just had a look and a i like the idea of putting this on CD (We are
selling our systems with an IDE Flashdisk, though). But,
i would like to see the config scripts be seperate from the configs itself,
thats one difference to the release i made for myself. The other is of
course Kernel 2.4... 
But i like the new lrcfg interface it looks nice. But please change the
description there:
b ) Backup
d ) Set Backup Destination
and so on,

i tried multiple time to insert:
d root
...
 or something like that would be nicer...

> 
> Charles Steinkuehler
> http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
> http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)
> 

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Re: [Leaf-devel] dachstein rc1 cd won't boot.

2001-10-12 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

i have problems with the dachstein rc1 cd. The machine boots from cd,
identifies the cdrom at hdd as ATAPI 2xCDROM and then cannot load the other
packages (etc.lrp ...).
it just says: could not mount the boot device can't install packages.
I have not floppy inserted and no harddisk (now) in this machine...

CS>
For some reason, the system is not automatically detecting your CD-Rom on
/dev/hdd.  I'll try to re-create this here and fix the init-scripts (if
they're broken), but in the meantime, you can probably get going with the
following procedure:

Start with a blank floppy, or the bootdisk.bin image if your system won't
boot from CD with a floppy disk in the drive.

Create a file called "pkgpath.cfg" on the blank floppy.

edit pkgpath.cfg, so it contains a single line with the text:
/dev/hdd:iso9660

NOTE:  This file may need a unix EOL...I'm not sure what will happen if the
init script sees a carrige return as well as a line-feed...another thing to
test :)

Charles Steinkuehler
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[Leaf-devel] dachstein rc1 cd won't boot.

2001-10-12 Thread arne @ loopback . org

Hi,

i have problems with the dachstein rc1 cd. The machine boots from cd,
identifies the cdrom at hdd as ATAPI 2xCDROM and then cannot load the other
packages (etc.lrp ...). 
it just says: could not mount the boot device can't install packages.
I have not floppy inserted and no harddisk (now) in this machine... 

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Re: [Leaf-devel] Anyone heard from....?

2001-10-12 Thread Jack Coates

On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, David Douthitt wrote:

> Anyone heard from Morgan Reed?
>
> If I'm not mistaken, he's near the U.S.Capitol - which means the
> terrorist attacks were very close, and had a Big Impact on Daily Life.
> Anyone know how he's doing?
>
> I sent an email, and got nothing.  Didn't want to bother him too much...
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There was an interview request with him on Slashdot last week -- check
their search engine

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Re: [Leaf-devel] Minor trouble with Dachstein release-candidate

2001-10-12 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

> Thanks for all your work with LEAF Charles.
>
> I tried your Dachstein RC and had a bit of trouble. I followed your
> instructions and entered my static ip info. On bringing up the network I
> got: "Starting interface: RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument." A quick
> search on deja pointed to a possible problem with QOS. I switched to the
> dachstein normal kernel and modules that includes the QOS code and all is
> fine now.
>
> I'm fairly certain I had the configuration correct because changing the
> kernel and modules fixed the problem. I didn't even change the net card
> module as I use a tulip based card. I'm not well versed enough in Linux or
> Eigherstein to troubleshoot any further than this. Sorry.

Hmm...the Invalid argument error can happen for any of a number of reasons.
It's quite odd that changing your kernel fixed the problem...nothing related
to QoS is enabled unless you specifically set several network.conf
varilables, and install the user-space QoS configuration tools.  Can you
possibly e-mail me a copy of your network.conf file so I can see if I can
reproduce the problem here on a test system?

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[Leaf-devel] Re: [Leaf-user] Dachstein-CD available

2001-10-12 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

> Just a note:
>
> If you are going to use bootdisk.bin instead of bootdisk.ima, please,
> replace all references to bootdisk.ima in README.TXT };Þ

Doh!!  I'll get it fixed in the next release...

Charles Steinkuehler
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