Re: [leaf-devel] [Fwd: Re: Mike Noyes]

2004-04-14 Thread Juan Jesus Prieto
El Mar 13 Abr 2004 22:55, K.-P. Kirchdörfer escribió:
 Am Dienstag, 13. April 2004 13:09 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler:
  Mike Noyes has been in a bicycle accident (see message below).
 
  If I get any more details, I'll let everyone know.

 Thx for info Charles - bad news.
 Best wishes to Mike - I hope he'll be back soon and healthy again.

  I whish a quick and good recovery for our colleague.

Best regards.
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Re: [leaf-devel] Feature Request: Shorewall 2.0 LocalConfDir

2004-04-14 Thread Erich Titl
Tom

At 03:04 14.04.2004, you wrote:
Erich Titl wrote:
..
My point is that /var/lib/lrpkg/shorwall.conf should not point to files 
that do not exist.
Oh sorry, this is for the configuration tool  my fault :-(

Mhhh an egg and hen problem. If we include it in the initial distribution 
then an upgrade will overwrite it. IIRC LEAF does not have a postinstall 
function yet.



I think that Charles's suggestion about using two packages makes this a 
bit more friendly. The main problem that I see with that approach is 
that it doesn't allow any way for me to add a new config file in the 
future and have it reflected in the Shorewall configuration menu.
Well, I believe they are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
If we include let's say /etc/shorewalluser/* in 
/var/lib/lrpkg/shorewall.list and /etc/shorewalluser/shorewall.conf in 
the /var/lib/lrpkg/swconf.list then, if swconf.lrp  _was_ installed, the 
user configuration would be saved to swconf.lrp, else it would be saved 
to shorewall.lrp. In any case you would not need to populate 
/etc/shorewalluser/shorewall.conf as the backup script would take care of 
user config data. This sounds complicated, but from a user's perspective 
would be almost invisible.
Well, it sounds complicated to me -- I'm lost :-)
Sorry, probably my fault being unclear :-(

I am referring to the lrcfg backup tool in LEAF.

The respective .list files in the directory /var/lib/lrpkg define what 
files are part of a .lrp package.

Files that are defined in multiple .list packages are not archived at all, 
but files implicitly included in a directory path in one file _and_ 
explicitly included in the other are backed up in the package which 
explicitly includes them.

If the /var/lib/lrpkg/shorwall.list file _and_ the 
/var/lib/lrpkg/swconf.list file both contain 
/etc/shorewalluser/shorewall.conf _and_ both packages are installed on a 
LEAF system then this file would never be backed up. This can be avoided by 
including /etc/shorewalluser to /var/lib/lrpkg/shorewall.list _and_ 
/etc/shorewalluser/shorewall.conf to /var/lib/lrpkg/swconf.list, e.g. 
naming the file explicitly in swconf.list.

If _both_ packages (shorewall.lrp and swconf.lrp) are installed then the 
/etc/shorewalluser/shorewall.conf will be saved to the swconf.lrp package.

If only shorewall.lrp is installed then the file will go to shorewall.lrp.

...
I assume that by configuration file you mean shorewall.conf (as opposed 
to shorwall.conf in /var/lib/lrpkg/).
yes.

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Re: [leaf-devel] Feature Request: Shorewall 2.0 LocalConfDir

2004-04-14 Thread Tom Eastep
Erich Titl wrote:


At 03:04 14.04.2004, you wrote:

Erich Titl wrote:
..
My point is that /var/lib/lrpkg/shorwall.conf should not point to 
files that do not exist.


Oh sorry, this is for the configuration tool  my fault :-(

Mhhh an egg and hen problem. If we include it in the initial 
distribution then an upgrade will overwrite it. IIRC LEAF does not have 
a postinstall function yet.

Now we are on the same page :-)

Well, it sounds complicated to me -- I'm lost :-)


Sorry, probably my fault being unclear :-(

I am referring to the lrcfg backup tool in LEAF.

The respective .list files in the directory /var/lib/lrpkg define what 
files are part of a .lrp package.

Files that are defined in multiple .list packages are not archived at 
all, but files implicitly included in a directory path in one file _and_ 
explicitly included in the other are backed up in the package which 
explicitly includes them.

If the /var/lib/lrpkg/shorwall.list file _and_ the 
/var/lib/lrpkg/swconf.list file both contain 
/etc/shorewalluser/shorewall.conf _and_ both packages are installed on a 
LEAF system then this file would never be backed up. This can be avoided 
by including /etc/shorewalluser to /var/lib/lrpkg/shorewall.list _and_ 
/etc/shorewalluser/shorewall.conf to /var/lib/lrpkg/swconf.list, e.g. 
naming the file explicitly in swconf.list.

If _both_ packages (shorewall.lrp and swconf.lrp) are installed then the 
/etc/shorewalluser/shorewall.conf will be saved to the swconf.lrp package.

If only shorewall.lrp is installed then the file will go to shorewall.lrp.

Ok -- now I understand. Thanks,

-Tom
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Re: [leaf-devel] [Fwd: Re: Mike Noyes]

2004-04-14 Thread Mike Noyes
On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 04:09, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
 Mike Noyes has been in a bicycle accident (see message below).
 
 If I get any more details, I'll let everyone know.

Everyone,
Sorry for the delay on the website. I just got back from the hospital
today. I dot know what problems I'll have, but I intend to start working
on our website ASAP.

Apparently I got lucky with some good neurosurgeons. They drilled a hole
in my brain to relive pressure. Without this they said I was gone. All
this from riding head first into a stationary garbage truck at full
speed. Not the smartest thing I've done in my life.

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Re: [leaf-devel] [Fwd: Re: Mike Noyes]

2004-04-14 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Mike,

Glad to hear something from you so soon, but please take your time! 
Your health is more important than the website ;)

Eric Spakman

 On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 04:09, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
  Mike Noyes has been in a bicycle accident (see message below).
  
  If I get any more details, I'll let everyone know.
 
 Everyone,
 Sorry for the delay on the website. I just got back from the hospital
 today. I dot know what problems I'll have, but I intend to start working
 on our website ASAP.
 
 Apparently I got lucky with some good neurosurgeons. They drilled a hole
 in my brain to relive pressure. Without this they said I was gone. All
 this from riding head first into a stationary garbage truck at full
 speed. Not the smartest thing I've done in my life.
 
 -- 
 Mike Noyes mhnoyes at users.sourceforge.net
 http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/
 SF.net Projects: ffl, leaf, phpwebsite, phpwebsite-comm, sitedocs
 
 
 
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Re: [leaf-devel] [Fwd: Re: Mike Noyes]

2004-04-14 Thread Martin Hejl
Hi Mike,

Everyone,
Sorry for the delay on the website. I just got back from the hospital
today. I dot know what problems I'll have, but I intend to start working
on our website ASAP.
Apparently I got lucky with some good neurosurgeons. They drilled a hole
in my brain to relive pressure. Without this they said I was gone. All
this from riding head first into a stationary garbage truck at full
speed. Not the smartest thing I've done in my life.
I too am very glad to see that you're out of hospital again - and like 
Eric and Tom, I ask you to please take whatever time you need to fully 
recover - as Eric said, getting the website done is nice, but making 
sure you fully recover is by far more important.

Best wishes, and next time, please try to miss the garbage truck ;-) 
That news of you being in hospital surely was a shock to me, and most 
likely to most people on this list.

Martin



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Re: [leaf-devel] [Fwd: Re: Mike Noyes]

2004-04-14 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 12:16 PM 4/14/2004 -0700, Mike Noyes wrote:
On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 04:09, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
 Mike Noyes has been in a bicycle accident (see message below).

 If I get any more details, I'll let everyone know.
Everyone,
Sorry for the delay on the website. I just got back from the hospital
today. I dot know what problems I'll have, but I intend to start working
on our website ASAP.
Apparently I got lucky with some good neurosurgeons. They drilled a hole
in my brain to relive pressure. Without this they said I was gone. All
this from riding head first into a stationary garbage truck at full
speed. Not the smartest thing I've done in my life.
But I hope the dumbest (though if your teen years were anything like mine, 
probably not).

Seriously, I'm glad you are OK, and relieved to see that you're well enough 
to be updating us yourself on your condition. As you might imagine, I've a 
special dread of bicycle accidents, and I'm glad that you came through 
yours reasonably well.





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Re: [leaf-devel] [Fwd: Re: Mike Noyes]

2004-04-14 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Mike Noyes wrote:
On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 04:09, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
Mike Noyes has been in a bicycle accident (see message below).

If I get any more details, I'll let everyone know.
Everyone,
Sorry for the delay on the website. I just got back from the hospital
today. I dot know what problems I'll have, but I intend to start working
on our website ASAP.
Apparently I got lucky with some good neurosurgeons. They drilled a hole
in my brain to relive pressure. Without this they said I was gone. All
this from riding head first into a stationary garbage truck at full
speed. Not the smartest thing I've done in my life.
Glad to hear you're OK!  I've had a few bike accidents myself, with the 
worst knocking me out for about 5 minutes and sending me to the hospital 
to get my head scanned (yes, that's the only reason I've ever had to 
have my head examined!).  The upside was I was pretty much limp when I 
hit the ground (my head hit first), so I had very little road rash.

Remember to keep the rubber side down, and worry about getting better, 
not the website!

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Re: [leaf-devel] [Fwd: Re: Mike Noyes]

2004-04-14 Thread Lynn Avants
On Wednesday 14 April 2004 02:16 pm, Mike Noyes wrote:
 Everyone,
 Sorry for the delay on the website. I just got back from the hospital
 today. I dot know what problems I'll have, but I intend to start working
 on our website ASAP.

Amazing! I'm glad that your recovery should be quick, but please take
care of yourself first. I lost one good friend last week, I'm trying to
keep a hold of the rest for a while :)

 Apparently I got lucky with some good neurosurgeons. They drilled a hole
 in my brain to relive pressure. Without this they said I was gone. All
 this from riding head first into a stationary garbage truck at full
 speed. Not the smartest thing I've done in my life.

Very lucky indeed! My brother had a similar accident 15 months ago and 
was not nearly as lucky, something was taking care of you.

May your recovery be quick and full!
-- 
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Linux Embedded Appliance Firewall Developer
http://leaf.sourceforge.net
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Re: [leaf-devel] [Fwd: Re: Mike Noyes]

2004-04-14 Thread Larry Platzek
On Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Ray Olszewski wrote:

 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:39:33 -0700
 From: Ray Olszewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] [Fwd: Re: Mike Noyes]

 At 12:16 PM 4/14/2004 -0700, Mike Noyes wrote:
 On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 04:09, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
   Mike Noyes has been in a bicycle accident (see message below).
  
   If I get any more details, I'll let everyone know.
 
 Everyone,
 Sorry for the delay on the website. I just got back from the hospital
 today. I dot know what problems I'll have, but I intend to start working
 on our website ASAP.
 
 Apparently I got lucky with some good neurosurgeons. They drilled a hole
 in my brain to relive pressure. Without this they said I was gone. All
 this from riding head first into a stationary garbage truck at full
 speed. Not the smartest thing I've done in my life.

 But I hope the dumbest (though if your teen years were anything like mine,
 probably not).

 Seriously, I'm glad you are OK, and relieved to see that you're well enough
 to be updating us yourself on your condition. As you might imagine, I've a
 special dread of bicycle accidents, and I'm glad that you came through
 yours reasonably well.


 ---
Hi Mike,
Did not anyone tell you not to move trucks with your head or bicyles!
Glad you are home and able to update your health status your self.
I was just going to call Phil and find out what hospital you were in and
if you were up to having visitors.

Still could arrange time to visit if you would like.
You have my phone numbers.

Take care.


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RE: [leaf-devel] [Fwd: Re: Mike Noyes]

2004-04-14 Thread Steven Peck
 I was trying to figure out what hospital I was going to have to visit.
I love access advanced medical technology.

-sp

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 On Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Ray Olszewski wrote:
 
  Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:39:33 -0700
  From: Ray Olszewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] [Fwd: Re: Mike Noyes]
 
  At 12:16 PM 4/14/2004 -0700, Mike Noyes wrote:
  On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 04:09, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
Mike Noyes has been in a bicycle accident (see message below).
   
If I get any more details, I'll let everyone know.
  
  Everyone,
  Sorry for the delay on the website. I just got back from 
 the hospital
  today. I dot know what problems I'll have, but I intend to 
 start working
  on our website ASAP.
  
  Apparently I got lucky with some good neurosurgeons. They 
 drilled a hole
  in my brain to relive pressure. Without this they said I 
 was gone. All
  this from riding head first into a stationary garbage truck at full
  speed. Not the smartest thing I've done in my life.
 
  But I hope the dumbest (though if your teen years were 
 anything like mine,
  probably not).
 
  Seriously, I'm glad you are OK, and relieved to see that 
 you're well enough
  to be updating us yourself on your condition. As you might 
 imagine, I've a
  special dread of bicycle accidents, and I'm glad that you 
 came through
  yours reasonably well.
 
 
  ---
 Hi Mike,
 Did not anyone tell you not to move trucks with your head or bicyles!
 Glad you are home and able to update your health status your self.
 I was just going to call Phil and find out what hospital you 
 were in and
 if you were up to having visitors.
 
 Still could arrange time to visit if you would like.
 You have my phone numbers.
 
 Take care.
 
 
 Larry Platzek  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
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