Re: [leaf-devel] New LEAF branch?

2006-03-21 Thread Venki Iyer



Hi Nataneal,

Certainly yes - both as a contributor and as a user. Call it Alpine or 
ReBering, doesn't matter ...


-V



On 03/21/2006 09:43 AM, Natanael Copa wrote:


Hi,

I have been following the interesting discussions in this list latest
week moving on to 2.6 kernel and USB drives etc. I think that
uclibc-bering does the right thing in keeping things within a floppy.

However, at the same time it would be healthy to test some of the new
things comming in 2.6 kernel (like udev) and it would be nice having an
environment where you are not limited by a 1680MB size.

So to me, it looks like it should be good if there came another LEAF
branch doing this stuff.

I have been working on something that could turn into something that
could satisfy this desire of playing with newer stuff. It has went under
the codename Alpine and have been mentioned here in the list.

So my question is: Are there any interest in a new branch in LEAF? (I
mean anyone more than Mike Noyes ;)

My personal opinion is that cooperation is better than competition, but
it looks like there is need for something beside uclibc-bering at this
point.

What do you think?

--
Natanael Copa


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[Fwd: 2.4 vs 2.6 [WAS: Re: [leaf-devel] lwp (webconf) packages]]

2006-03-17 Thread Venki Iyer


Missed the cc: earlier ...


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2.4 is fine as-is: people using it for production systems are not likely 
to move off it for a long time (if ever). You have it, it works, there's 
little impetus in general to move to anything else, with all the 
additional effort/risk/cost involved.


In my particular case, this was a project requirement for various 
reasons - the boxes needed to be dropped off at remote locations and 
forgotten about (maintenance-wise) for the next 10 years, most 
new/custom hardware cards are targeting 2.6 rather than 2.4, and the 
trajectory of 2.4 is that of maintenance, while 2.6 is still seeing 
improvements/enhancements.
The reason for ruling out uclibc in this case was that there was a 
significant software stack above the OS, and it was lower risk to use 
libc rather than uclibc/diet/pick your low-fat libc here.


The reason for not using embedded Debian or Redhat or even something 
like M0n0wall or something else based on ipkg? There was a large legacy 
code base that was Bering/LRP based.


Hope that helps,

-Venki



On 03/15/2006 06:21 PM, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:


Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2006 16:29 schrieb Venki Iyer:
 


In any case, I did roll a 2.6-based version of Bering late last year
(started out as a project effort, turned into a labor of love - thanks
guys!), could probably push it back into one of the project trees if
there is any interest. I'm not sure  I'll be able to devote much time  
to it moving forward, though. Comments/thoughts - Mike, others?
   



Venki;

sounds interesting.

I'd like to ask, what's your experience using a 2.6 kernel compared to a 2.4 
kernel for a router?


I've read that some network cards are slower with 2.6 - maybe that's solved 
today.


What's the benefit, what does a 2.6 kernel provide you miss on a 2.4 kernel?

just curious
kp


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