Re: [Leaf-devel] MTD/DOC2000 question

2002-07-30 Thread Conrad Steenberg

Hi Jacques

I'll gladly write something, but let me first get it to boot from the
DoC ;-)

The hold-up is that the leaf install script is heavily geared towards
booting from a floppy and then installing on a ramdisk.

Anyway, I'm still trying to hack the install script to install to the
DoC. 

Cheers!

Conrad

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 13:37, Jacques Nilo wrote:
> Conrad, SImon:
> I would really like to  add a new chapter in the Bering user's guide about 
> "Booting Bering from DoC". Would you be ready to   draft something ?
> Jacques
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Re: [Leaf-devel] MTD/DOC2000 question

2002-07-30 Thread Jacques Nilo

Conrad, SImon:
I would really like to  add a new chapter in the Bering user's guide about 
"Booting Bering from DoC". Would you be ready to   draft something ?
Jacques


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Re: [Leaf-devel] MTD/DOC2000 question

2002-07-30 Thread Conrad Steenberg

Hi Simon

I used the installer's ability to load modules at startup to get the DOC
to work (after doing it a couple of times by hand to get it to work ;-)

The kernel that Bering ships with has all the right modules available
(go to the Bering download page, which links to
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13751 and get
Bering_1.0-rc3_modules_2.4.18.tar.gz)

I was trying to hack the installer to be able to install on the DOC so
that I could distribute the result, but it seems the installer wants to
load packages and modules from a mounted device, and install the system
on a ramdisk, while I want to load packages and modules from a directory
and install on a mounted device and make the device bootable.

So it seems like just making a custom install like yu did would be a lot
less trouble.

Cheers!

Conrad

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 02:05, Simon Blake wrote:
> Hi Conrad
> 
> What kernel are you booting off?  As far as I know, the stock bering
> kernel doesn't have DOC support built in, so even though you have the
> device files, you won't be able to access ntfla1 unless you build your
> own kernel with DOC support..  
> 
> When I last setup a DOC based system, I booted it off an IDE drive
> running DOS, formatted the DOC with a FAT filesystem (in fact installed
> DOS), copied all the Bering stuff over, along with a customer kernel
> with DOC support, ran syslinux on the DOC as boot loader.  Seemed to
> work fine.
> 
> Cheers
> Si
> 
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 09:37:16AM -0700, Conrad Steenberg said:
> > Hi Jacques 
> > 
> > Thanks for your reply. I think my question was a little unclear, though:
> > 
> > Making the devices works fine, whether by hand or using root.dev.mk.
> > What has me stumped is formatting the partition (using either mke2fs of
> > mkfs.minix from busybox) which gives me the errors described below.
> > 
> > The Netier doesn't have a hard drive, so it has to be booted using
> > PXE/dhcp/tftp until I can get the DOC formatted. And I'd very much like
> > to keep it HD-less since it is blissfully quiet :-)
> > 
> > Cheers!
> > 
> > Conrad
> > 
> > On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 01:27, Jacques Nilo wrote:
> > > > I'm new to LEAF and embedded devices, so please bear 
> > > with me :-)
> > > > 
> > > > I trying to create a filesystem on a 72M DOC2000 
> > > (Netier XL1000), and
> > > > get up to creating a partition (/dev/nftla1). This is 
> > > with Bering-rc3.
> > > > 
> > > > When I try mke2fs /dev/nftla1, the following gets 
> > > reported:
> > > > 
> > > > NFTL_writeblock(): Cannot find block to write to
> > > > end_request; I/O error, dev 5d:01 (unknown) sector X
> > > > Argh! No free blocks found LastFreeEUN = 4603, FirstEUN 
> > > = 3
> > > > No Virtual Unit Chains available for folding. Failing 
> > > request
> > > > 
> > > > This gets repeated lots of times with different values 
> > > for X.
> > > > 
> > > > (I _think_ that the utility nftl_format might be able 
> > > to free the blocks
> > > > on the DOC, but I don't know where to get one that's 
> > > been compiled for
> > > > Bering.)
> > > > 
> > > > Does anybody have an idea why the error mesages happen, 
> > > and maybe what
> > > > to do about it? Or better yet, have copies of the nftl 
> > > utilities
> > > > compiled with the right libc(+kernel?) to work with 
> > > Bering?
> > > >From Bering rc3 Changelog:
> > > root.dev.mk updated to create mtd, nftla1->4, lp0, lp1 
> > > devices for DoC and parallel printer support
> > > 
> > > The relevant devices are created automatically at boot 
> > > time (check the /dev directory).
> > > 
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Re: [Leaf-devel] MTD/DOC2000 question

2002-07-30 Thread Simon Blake

Hi Conrad

What kernel are you booting off?  As far as I know, the stock bering
kernel doesn't have DOC support built in, so even though you have the
device files, you won't be able to access ntfla1 unless you build your
own kernel with DOC support..  

When I last setup a DOC based system, I booted it off an IDE drive
running DOS, formatted the DOC with a FAT filesystem (in fact installed
DOS), copied all the Bering stuff over, along with a customer kernel
with DOC support, ran syslinux on the DOC as boot loader.  Seemed to
work fine.

Cheers
Si

On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 09:37:16AM -0700, Conrad Steenberg said:
> Hi Jacques 
> 
> Thanks for your reply. I think my question was a little unclear, though:
> 
> Making the devices works fine, whether by hand or using root.dev.mk.
> What has me stumped is formatting the partition (using either mke2fs of
> mkfs.minix from busybox) which gives me the errors described below.
> 
> The Netier doesn't have a hard drive, so it has to be booted using
> PXE/dhcp/tftp until I can get the DOC formatted. And I'd very much like
> to keep it HD-less since it is blissfully quiet :-)
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Conrad
> 
> On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 01:27, Jacques Nilo wrote:
> > > I'm new to LEAF and embedded devices, so please bear 
> > with me :-)
> > > 
> > > I trying to create a filesystem on a 72M DOC2000 
> > (Netier XL1000), and
> > > get up to creating a partition (/dev/nftla1). This is 
> > with Bering-rc3.
> > > 
> > > When I try mke2fs /dev/nftla1, the following gets 
> > reported:
> > > 
> > > NFTL_writeblock(): Cannot find block to write to
> > > end_request; I/O error, dev 5d:01 (unknown) sector X
> > > Argh! No free blocks found LastFreeEUN = 4603, FirstEUN 
> > = 3
> > > No Virtual Unit Chains available for folding. Failing 
> > request
> > > 
> > > This gets repeated lots of times with different values 
> > for X.
> > > 
> > > (I _think_ that the utility nftl_format might be able 
> > to free the blocks
> > > on the DOC, but I don't know where to get one that's 
> > been compiled for
> > > Bering.)
> > > 
> > > Does anybody have an idea why the error mesages happen, 
> > and maybe what
> > > to do about it? Or better yet, have copies of the nftl 
> > utilities
> > > compiled with the right libc(+kernel?) to work with 
> > Bering?
> > >From Bering rc3 Changelog:
> > root.dev.mk updated to create mtd, nftla1->4, lp0, lp1 
> > devices for DoC and parallel printer support
> > 
> > The relevant devices are created automatically at boot 
> > time (check the /dev directory).
> > 
> > Jacques
> > --
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Re: [Leaf-devel] MTD/DOC2000 question

2002-07-23 Thread Conrad Steenberg

Hi Jacques 

Thanks for your reply. I think my question was a little unclear, though:

Making the devices works fine, whether by hand or using root.dev.mk.
What has me stumped is formatting the partition (using either mke2fs of
mkfs.minix from busybox) which gives me the errors described below.

The Netier doesn't have a hard drive, so it has to be booted using
PXE/dhcp/tftp until I can get the DOC formatted. And I'd very much like
to keep it HD-less since it is blissfully quiet :-)

Cheers!

Conrad

On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 01:27, Jacques Nilo wrote:
> > I'm new to LEAF and embedded devices, so please bear 
> with me :-)
> > 
> > I trying to create a filesystem on a 72M DOC2000 
> (Netier XL1000), and
> > get up to creating a partition (/dev/nftla1). This is 
> with Bering-rc3.
> > 
> > When I try mke2fs /dev/nftla1, the following gets 
> reported:
> > 
> > NFTL_writeblock(): Cannot find block to write to
> > end_request; I/O error, dev 5d:01 (unknown) sector X
> > Argh! No free blocks found LastFreeEUN = 4603, FirstEUN 
> = 3
> > No Virtual Unit Chains available for folding. Failing 
> request
> > 
> > This gets repeated lots of times with different values 
> for X.
> > 
> > (I _think_ that the utility nftl_format might be able 
> to free the blocks
> > on the DOC, but I don't know where to get one that's 
> been compiled for
> > Bering.)
> > 
> > Does anybody have an idea why the error mesages happen, 
> and maybe what
> > to do about it? Or better yet, have copies of the nftl 
> utilities
> > compiled with the right libc(+kernel?) to work with 
> Bering?
> >From Bering rc3 Changelog:
> root.dev.mk updated to create mtd, nftla1->4, lp0, lp1 
> devices for DoC and parallel printer support
> 
> The relevant devices are created automatically at boot 
> time (check the /dev directory).
> 
> Jacques
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Re: [Leaf-devel] MTD/DOC2000 question

2002-07-23 Thread Jacques Nilo

> I'm new to LEAF and embedded devices, so please bear
with me :-)
>
> I trying to create a filesystem on a 72M DOC2000
(Netier XL1000), and
> get up to creating a partition (/dev/nftla1). This is
with Bering-rc3.
>
> When I try mke2fs /dev/nftla1, the following gets
reported:
>
> NFTL_writeblock(): Cannot find block to write to
> end_request; I/O error, dev 5d:01 (unknown) sector X
> Argh! No free blocks found LastFreeEUN = 4603, FirstEUN
= 3
> No Virtual Unit Chains available for folding. Failing
request
>
> This gets repeated lots of times with different values
for X.
>
> (I _think_ that the utility nftl_format might be able
to free the blocks
> on the DOC, but I don't know where to get one that's
been compiled for
> Bering.)
>
> Does anybody have an idea why the error mesages happen,
and maybe what
> to do about it? Or better yet, have copies of the nftl
utilities
> compiled with the right libc(+kernel?) to work with
Bering?
>From Bering rc3 Changelog:
root.dev.mk updated to create mtd, nftla1->4, lp0, lp1
devices for DoC and parallel printer support

The relevant devices are created automatically at boot
time (check the /dev directory).

Jacques
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[Leaf-devel] MTD/DOC2000 question

2002-07-22 Thread Conrad Steenberg

Hi

I'm new to LEAF and embedded devices, so please bear with me :-)

I trying to create a filesystem on a 72M DOC2000 (Netier XL1000), and
get up to creating a partition (/dev/nftla1). This is with Bering-rc3.

When I try mke2fs /dev/nftla1, the following gets reported:

NFTL_writeblock(): Cannot find block to write to
end_request; I/O error, dev 5d:01 (unknown) sector X
Argh! No free blocks found LastFreeEUN = 4603, FirstEUN = 3
No Virtual Unit Chains available for folding. Failing request

This gets repeated lots of times with different values for X.

(I _think_ that the utility nftl_format might be able to free the blocks
on the DOC, but I don't know where to get one that's been compiled for
Bering.)

Does anybody have an idea why the error mesages happen, and maybe what
to do about it? Or better yet, have copies of the nftl utilities
compiled with the right libc(+kernel?) to work with Bering?

Cheers!

Conrad




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