[Leaf-devel] Re: SF changes TOS
Message: 2 From: guitarlynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] SF changes TOS Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:48:07 -0600 Canadian would be great, but legally you can't contribute from the US to their projects as I understand it. As a Canadian citizen, I do not know what you are taking about. We have NO restrictions on cryptography and our copyright laws are pretty much in sync with the international community. ISPs all over the world are seeking the protection granted to carriers such as telcos rather than the burden of being the publisher. The former are immune from what you say on the line: they lease wires... The later are responsible for everything YOU do, unless they can prove that you deceived them. Easier said than done. Usually, people are looking for venture capital from ANY source :-) and I don't see why an open source project based in Canada would not be able to accept contributions from the US or anywhere else. Theo de Raadt has a lot of success with OpenBSD, distributed from Calgary, Canada. Here is some dope on the Canadian Export Control List (http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ECL.html). However, if you have specifics, I will have a lawyer research this. Regards, Serge Caron ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: SF changes TOS
On Thursday 14 February 2002 15:45, Serge Caron wrote: As a Canadian citizen, I do not know what you are taking about. We have NO restrictions on cryptography and our copyright laws are pretty much in sync with the international community. snip Here is some dope on the Canadian Export Control List (http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ECL.html). However, if you have specifics, I will have a lawyer research this. OK, thanks for that info. Around six months ago I was looking into helping a couple of Canadian-based projects and they implictely stated that due to the US laws on cryt., they appreciated the offer but wished to decline due to the possible conflict. Things may not be true for any other projects and they may have changed their minds, but since some of these laws have passed within the US I have to respect their concerns :) Thanks once again for enlightening my concern! -- ~Lynn Avants aka Guitarlynn guitarlynn at users.sourceforge.net http://leaf.sourceforge.net If linux isn't the answer, you've probably got the wrong question! ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
[Leaf-devel] Re: SF changes TOS
Message: 5 From: guitarlynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: SF changes TOS Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 15:41:38 -0600 [snip] OK, thanks for that info. Around six months ago I was looking into helping a couple of Canadian-based projects and they implictely stated that due to the US laws on cryt., they appreciated the offer but wished to decline due to the possible conflict. Things may not be true for any other projects and they may have changed their minds, but since some of these laws have passed within the US I have to respect their concerns :) Ha! Now I understand. If, for example, you pickup an Intel PRO/100S nic with 168-bit encryption (Made in Malaysia if my memory serves me right) you should read on the label Unlawful to export outside US or Canada except under an approved US Dept of commerce export or applicable license exception. You will find the exact same warning on a Microsoft high encryption pack and on different encryption products. You, as a US citizen will break the law if you do export it to Europe, for example. I, as a Canadian citizen, am under license not to re-export this product. It cannot even go back to the US. (No refund policy :) Trust me, the terms of the license are basically a direct contract between me and the US government. As I stated before, we have no restrictions on cypher strengh, algorithms and the like. Since you, as a US citizen, implicitly have access to technology that cannot be exported, these people protected themselves. It used to be the same thing with France, up until 2 years ago I believe (Jacques could tell us). There, you could not even 40-bit encrypt a dial-in connection. Importing the stuff was a crime against the state and I dare not think what they did to suppliers. On older Microsoft development CDs, for example, you have French NT Server and then France NT Server. The former for Canada, Africa, etc. The later for France and its territories. So I guess some of these people mean business. Regards, Serge Caron ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
