[Leaf-user] dhclient and dnscache

2002-03-29 Thread \Will Clements\

Hi,

I recently setup a Dachstein floppy firewall/gateway for
someone using ATT cable, (no problems, thanks to the
archives).  Currently I have (2) remaining questions:

1]  The machine being used is a Compaq P133, (and old
but really really solid machine), with a built in network
card.  Without the relase mechanism built into
dhclient that is currently included with Dachstein,
is there a non-Windows way I can release the dhcp lease?

2]  I want to automatically update the external servers
that dnscache, (DJB version), quries externally from the
dhclient lease information when the client lease is renewed.
It is possible that the DNS servers provied by ATT might
change, and since I won't be able to monitor this firewall
on a regular basis, I'd like dnscache to automatically get
this info.  There dosen't seem to be any mechanism to
do this currently, but perhaps someone can enlighten me.


Thanks,

Will


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[Leaf-user] can't access internal www server

2002-03-29 Thread Lauren Commons

Howdy.
I am using Eigerstein2Beta.  I have recently tried to
add/change a couple of features
First, I have a www server running on my internal
network.  I can only access it from inside my network
if I run it on a high port (e.g. 8080), but not port
80.
A related problem (I think it's related) is that I
can't ssh from one machine to another on my internal
network unless I run sshd on a different, higher port.


Second, I installed sshd on my lrp machine.  When I
try to connect to the lrp box (ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED])
I get this message:
ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by
remote host.

Any ideas.?

Thanks.

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[Leaf-user] ssh/sftp through dachstein firewall

2002-03-29 Thread David Goodrich

I set up portforwarding to point ssh to my fileserver, in the hopes that i
would be able to secure-ftp into it, but it doesn't seem to like the
portforwarding.

svi network ipfilter list portfw says that port 22 is pointed to the
apropriate internal machine, and i can ssh/sftp into it from the internal
network, just not from the external network.  i'm using dach. 1.02 floppy...
any thoughts?  thanks in advance
 -david

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Re: [Leaf-user] dhclient and dnscache

2002-03-29 Thread Matt Schalit

\Will Clements\ wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I recently setup a Dachstein floppy firewall/gateway for


 1]  The machine being used is a Compaq P133, (and old

Don't know.  Maybe.



 2]  I want to automatically update the external servers

People have described some sort of exit script that
you can cusomize that gets run just before dhclient
finishes and exits.  It's part of the dhclient package.
Check it's files and search the archives for dhclient,
exit, and/or exit hooks.  I don't run it but thought
I'd throw it out there until someone else replies.

Good Luck,
Matthew


 Thanks,
 
 Will


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Re: [Leaf-user] ssh/sftp through dachstein firewall

2002-03-29 Thread Matt Schalit

David Goodrich wrote:
 I set up portforwarding to point ssh to my fileserver, in the hopes that i
 would be able to secure-ftp into it, but it doesn't seem to like the
 portforwarding.
 
 svi network ipfilter list portfw says that port 22 is pointed to the
 apropriate internal machine, and i can ssh/sftp into it from the internal
 network, just not from the external network.  i'm using dach. 1.02 floppy...
 any thoughts?  thanks in advance
  -david


Is your ssh client truely on a the external network?
Do you have any relevant messages appear in any one
of you syslogs?

Have you read the newish Dachstein Port Forwading FAQ?
Look for it on the LEAF site.

You mentioned that the port was forwarded as listed
in the ipfilter output, but is the port open in the
first place so that traffic can get in to be forwarded?


Good Luck,
Matthew



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Re: [Leaf-user] ssh/sftp through dachstein firewall

2002-03-29 Thread David Goodrich

yes.  64.x.x.x
 -david
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From: rwtech.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: David Goodrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] ssh/sftp through dachstein firewall


 do both dachstein boxes have external (real)ips?  
 brett
 
 --- David Goodrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  i did a bit more testing.  the first external box i
  was testing on is also
  behind a dachstein firewall, but a /different/
  dachstein firewall.  I
  ssh'ing into my server from one of the lab
  computers, and didn't have any
  problem.  is this some weird dachstein-dachstein
  interaction?
   -david
  
  - Original Message -
  From: rwtech.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: David Goodrich
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 3:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] ssh/sftp through dachstein
  firewall
  
  
   that is odd, i can both ssh and stfp into my
  machine
   from the outside.  i always thought if one works
  so
   would the other.
   sorry, i have nothing helpful at this point.
   brett
  
   --- David Goodrich
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
yes, i did.  and it turns out i can ssh into it,
just not sftp.  both ssh
and sftp work on the internal network.
 -david
   
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To: David Goodrich
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Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] ssh/sftp through
  dachstein
firewall
   
   
 hi,
 did you open tcp port 22 on the firewall?

 --- David Goodrich
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I set up portforwarding to point ssh to my
  fileserver, in the hopes that i
  would be able to secure-ftp into it, but it
doesn't
  seem to like the
  portforwarding.
 
  svi network ipfilter list portfw says that
  port
22
  is pointed to the
  apropriate internal machine, and i can
  ssh/sftp
into
  it from the internal
  network, just not from the external network.
i'm
  using dach. 1.02 floppy...
  any thoughts?  thanks in advance
   -david
 
 
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Re: [Leaf-user] Celeron/Pentium vs Duron/Athlon

2002-03-29 Thread Greg Morgan



Michael E.T. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for all the replies to '.. speed and workload'.
 
 I have another question.
 
 Is there a significant performance penalty when using a Celeron or Duron
 processor vs an Athlon or Pentium. Not just in speed but in in the
 ability to process.

This is a really broad question.  It all depends on what you want to do.
I read a performance review on www.tomshardware.com.  I don't recall the
link but the data is almost a year old.  It influenced how I look at
hardware now.  Tom showed how at around 800 mhz to 1000 mhz all the
processors were about the same in the video game arena and office
applications.  An 800 mhz processor bottle necked at the same point the
1000 mhz did.  They choke on graphics through put.  His conclusion was
to spend your money on the best graphics card you can get and that you
only need an 800mhz processor.  At these speeds it is really hard to see
the difference anymore.  For example my 500mhz k62 adm Samba server is
fast enough.  I have a 300amhz celeron on the shelf that would serve up
files equally well.  More memory on a file server for caching helps than
cpu speed.

Tom's Hardware has made other comparisons.  He has found Duron and
Athlon's out perform Intel chips.  I get the picture that the food chain
looks like celeron, pentium, duron, athlon...this is a genralization.
The other problem when looking at speed is that Intel use this a
marketing tool.  AMD chips perform better at lower speeds suggesting
that the ability to process is held by AMD chips.

Closer home to LEAF, I'd worry more about bus speeds.  Remember a 486 is
good enough for LEAF.  But a pentium, etc perform better because the
system runs at a 66mhz bus speed.  When I got my first 166mhz pentium, I
realized that multimedia began to work because the bus speed could
support video and sound.  Likewise, your through put for network
performance will be better on a celeron/pentium/duron/atlon than a 486
because of the improved bus speed.

I hope this helps.  I shot broad because you had a broad question.  If
you hang out on http://www.tomshardware.com or similar sites you'll get
a feel for these issues.  As you read a hardware site you may get a
better answer for the specific ideas you are looking for.  LOL to me it
is all junk anymore. Especially when I purchased a mainboard and 1000mhz
processor for $99US several months ago.

Greg Morgan

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Re: [Leaf-user] ssh firewall

2002-03-29 Thread Greg Morgan

Henning, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 hello-
 
 I am using echowall on dachstein LRP. I have a windows 2k pro machine that i
 can ssh into from the outside. i am also running an http server on my w2k
 machine. I am port forwarding ssh through my router/firewall.  My problem is
 I am not sure how to tunnel the http to the *outside world*. I am not sure
 if it is possible. Any thoughts or suggestions?
 
 thanks
 
 brian
 

Charles gave you the answer to this before, but if you are coming from a
windows world it may not make sense. I attached his original post at the
end of this message.  Here's what I'll presume about you.  You are on a
windows client at work or somewhere else connecting to your LEAF box. 
As you described you have a Windows 2000 box with a web page you want to
see.  There are allot of things to keep straight in ones mind when you
start playing with port forwarding and SSH.  In short, you are not
trying to tunnel the http to the *outside world* but you tell your
clients how to tunnel to the service.

First off think of your LEAF box as just a patch cord.  You have taken a
cord and plugged it into a receptacle named 22 available to the rest of
the world.  The other end of the cord has been plugged into 22 on your
W2K box.  That's all port forwarding does in LEAF.  LEAF is completely
out of the picture now.  All that is is is a pipe for data to flow
over.  You have successfully done that as you describe above.

Now let's talk about the magic of SSH.  SSH is one protocol.  It allows
a person to setup an encrypted link between two computers.  Typically, a
telnet like feature is used within the SSH suite to talk to another
server and run commands on it.  A but there are a few more tricks up
SSH's sleeve.  SSH allows you to build other pipes within the port 22
pipe.  This is normally referred to as tunneling.  Within the port 22
pipe you can create multiple tunnels.  For example I have both regular
SSH and web tunneled to a windows machine.  I created these tunnels to
try and explain what you'll need to do.  If I wanted to ftp through SSH,
then you could add this too.  Name a protocol and try it.  You are
really just redirecting a port that the protocol normally uses on your
localhost to the desired port on your server.

There are several SSH packages for Windows.  I'll describe putty.  You
will need version 0.52. My prior version, 0.51, did not have the
features to perform the tasks you're asking for.  (And yes I upgraded
today to try it out. :)   ) 
A.8.8 How do I pronounce PuTTY?
Exactly like the normal word putty. Just like the stuff you put on
window frames. (One of the reasons it's called PuTTY is because it makes
Windows usable. :-)
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/faq.html

Download the executables from
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html.  You
will want plink.exe especially.  plink is short for putty link.  You
will want to setup your private key on the windows client computer that
attaches to LEAF.

plink.exe takes the SSH part and simplifies building tunnels within the
port 22 pipe on a Windows PC.  I have a Samba Server on a Linux box that
acts like your W2K box.  I used a windows PC with putty and plink to
connect to it.  Here's the command I used where

 myLEAFipAddress is the address to LEAF performing port forwarding.
 myuser is the userid on the W2K box.
 myW2kboxIPorName is the ip or name of your W2k box.  You would need
to add the name in c:\windows\host
 file for a server name to work.

 plink -L 80:myLEAFipAddress:80 myuser@myW2kboxIPorName

This establishes the tunnel.  I do not have a web server on my windows
PC.  However, when I use 

  http://localhost/ 

in the web browser, I see my what my Apache server is providing me.
Remember port 80 is the default port used by browsers i.e.
http://localhost/ is the same as http://localhost:80/.  SSH through
plink is creating a tunnel to my local machine or a secure patch cord. 
plink forwards whatever connects on my local windows box at port 80 to
the other server on port 80.  You have to just believe this until it
makes sense.  Also note the localhost is the name for ip address
127.0.0.1.  Every networking host has this available to it.

Perhaps the -L 80:myLEAFipAddress:80 is confusing because the command is
using the same port numbers on both ends of the pipe or tunnel.  Let's
try this since I am putting off filling out my 1040 tax forms :}

 plink -L 1040:myLEAFipAddress:80 myuser@myW2kboxIPorName

Now use

 http://localhost:1040/

in the web browser.  Once again I see the pages Apache is serving up to
me.  If you will, plink makes a web server available on your client
windows PC.  Without plink forwarding the web server over SSH to the
windows client, you would receive the typical 404 http error message.

Note that SSH is a server process in this configuration.  If you need
two way communication that is where both ends of the tunnel need to