Re: [leaf-user] Upgrade to uClibc

2004-04-24 Thread K.-P. Kirchdörfer
Hello;

I'm sorry, but to be safe you better start from scratch.
The binaries are incompatible and beginning with Bering-uClibc 2.0 a lot of 
improvements and changes to various files in etc.lrp and other non-binaries 
has slipped in, so an easy update path cannot be provided.

Even the modules.lrp is affected, because of new kernel version, which should 
be a reason on it's own to move on due to the security fixes.

Be shure to read the Bering-uClibc Installtion Guide
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buc-install.html
and the Bering-uClibc Users Guide
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buc-user.html

To find the packages you need, have a look at:
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/mod.php?mod=userpagemenu=91017page_id=51


hope that helps
kp



Am Freitag, 23. April 2004 16:30 schrieb ALParada:
 Hi Everyone,

 A newbie question. I have been using Bering for about 6 months now and want
 to try uClibc. I was hoping to bring in all my lrp's and modules and
 basically reboot. Is this possible or do I need to start from scratch? I
 did read something about packages needing to be recompiled but not sure if
 this applies to Bering packages. My main reason in doing this is to use the
 openvpn package. I understand the Bering package may have some issues. Any
 suggestions or shortcuts will be appreciated.

 TIA



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[leaf-user] Re: BGP

2004-04-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-04-22 23:01:21, schrieb William Burns:

I was thinking of building a BGP aware router (W/ only ethernet 
interfaces) and having it communicate w/ the 2 ISPs through the existing 
cisco routers.
I've been told that BGP routers can't do that and that I need a single 
BGP aware router w/ 2 v.35 interfaces on it.
Is that true?
If so, where do I get V.35 interfaces for use w/ LEAF?

I've got 2 T1s w/ two different ISPs (hence the desire to use BGP)
I already have two dinky cisco routers w/ v.35 interfaces.

If you have only two T1's you will never get your AS-Number for 
BGP-Routing. I planing to do this in Morocco with 4 BGP-4 Routers
(Do not know wether Debian or CISCO) but with much more the OC3's

The minimum is an E3 (34 MBit) en Europe or T3 (45 MBit) in the USA

It is new for me to and I have to learn many things about this.. =8O

Greetings
Michelle

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Re: [leaf-user] Re: BGP

2004-04-24 Thread George Metz
This is not entirely correct. There is, in fact, an RFC1918 equivalent 
for AS routing numbers, for one. Of course, a private AS should only 
really be used if you're multihoming to two different gateways on the 
same provider network.

Additionally, ARIN only requires that you have a unique routing policy 
that differs from that of your border gateway peers or that you are 
multi-homed, in the sense that you are connected to two or more upstream 
providers - one provider with two gateway locations can be handled, if 
necessary, by a Private AS.

Most likely, the connection size limitation is enforced either by an LIR 
providing the number, or (possibly) the nation's laws, though that would 
be a stretch. RIPE itself only requires that you have your own, 
independently owned address space, that your routing policy is 
consistent and unique in comparison to your peers, that you can't use a 
private ASN, and that you are multi-homed. If you're having issues with 
bandwidth limitations preventing you from getting an AS, bypass the LIR 
and go straight to RIPE (or ARIN, in the States) for it.

Oh, and from experience, Michelle, if you're setting that system up on 
BGP for redundancy purposes, make damned sure that if all the fibre is 
going to the same site that they do not pass through the same locations 
on their way to the upstream providers. It really stinks when your 
redundant connections all die at once because of a power loss at the 
central office.

Michelle Konzack wrote:
Am 2004-04-22 23:01:21, schrieb William Burns:

I was thinking of building a BGP aware router (W/ only ethernet 
interfaces) and having it communicate w/ the 2 ISPs through the existing 
cisco routers.
I've been told that BGP routers can't do that and that I need a single 
BGP aware router w/ 2 v.35 interfaces on it.
Is that true?
If so, where do I get V.35 interfaces for use w/ LEAF?

I've got 2 T1s w/ two different ISPs (hence the desire to use BGP)
I already have two dinky cisco routers w/ v.35 interfaces.


If you have only two T1's you will never get your AS-Number for 
BGP-Routing. I planing to do this in Morocco with 4 BGP-4 Routers
(Do not know wether Debian or CISCO) but with much more the OC3's

The minimum is an E3 (34 MBit) en Europe or T3 (45 MBit) in the USA

It is new for me to and I have to learn many things about this.. =8O

Greetings
Michelle


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Re: [leaf-user] BGP

2004-04-24 Thread bino-psn
Hi all
I could not find any documentation about the relevan between BGP and the
size of capacity contract.
CMIIW that any one can request a /20 IP / AS-number allocation from the NIR
as long as they can fulfill all the condition, and AFAIK the most important
condition is about usage plan and multi-homed.
Usualy ISP have huge IP allocation and they can (or have to ?) allocate /24
to their customer as long as the customer have ability to take responsible
(technicaly and administrative) of this allocation.

Basicaly AFAIK ... IANA never bundle the IP/AS-number allocation procedure
to a pipe-size.

CMIIW

Sincerely
-bino-

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  I've got 2 T1s w/ two different ISPs (hence the desire to use BGP)
  I already have two dinky cisco routers w/ v.35 interfaces.

 You'll never get any ISP to peer BGP with you for 2 T1 lines.  Sorry.  The
 best option for you if your requirement is NAT-centric is
 http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html.  (See Julian's
kernel
 patch at the end!).  Alternatively if you need external site failover
maybe
 buying an F5-3DNS (DNS failover) or cheap round-robin DNS will work for
you.

   From what you said, I should be looking for a motherboard w/ dual
  gigabit interfaces.
  (either Intel e1000 or Broadcom bcm5700)

 NICs are important, but not at dual-T1 speed.  It becomes important in
 20mbit+.  I think you'd be fine with eepro100's or bcm5700 (with tg3), or
 anything onboard on a decent server.  If you have extra $ the Intel
gigabits
 are great.  Eepro's are the most popular NIC in servers so you can't go
 wrong there.

 We use Dell PE 2650's here with CF/IDE adapters, 4 extra ports from Intel
 cards, and dual power supplies.  They are exponentially faster than what
we
 used previously, Cisco 3640 series.  They were also exponentially cheaper,
 though you might find a set of 3640's for sale on Ebay for $10k or so.
 That having been said you probably won't get fired for buying a Cisco but
 you might for your LEAF solution if it doesn't work right.  Be sure to
 budget extra time from the start to get all the pieces talking right to
each
 other.

  VRRP is... Virtual Redundancy Router Protocol?
  Is this an alternative to BGP, or is it something that complements it?

 Compliments.  It's like HSRP for Cisco.  Actually VRRP is the protocol
that
 HSRP is built on.   http://www.keepalived.org

 Cheers,

 P


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