Re: [leaf-user] Firewall performance graph

2005-07-13 Thread Erich Titl
Jaime

Thanks for the info

Jaime Nebrera wrote:
...>
>   D) FreeBSD (actually dont know what BDS m0n0wall uses) is much more
> linear and predictable on its behavior, standing for higher loads.

Did you test Linux in router configuration?

cheers

Erich


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Re: [leaf-user] multiple static ip address router/firewall

2005-07-13 Thread George Metz
None of the over-the-counter router-in-a-boxes are going to be able to 
handle multiple static IPs, with the possible exception of a Linksys 
that's had it's firmware replaced with a Linux-based one from the 
hardware hacking groups.


An entry level Cisco is hideously expensive; I found two on Pricewatch 
for $389 USD from a retailer with truly bad reviews. Last time I looked 
for one (which, admittedly, was a couple of years ago) the same model 
was going for $1500 USD refurbished.


I adore Cisco equipment and the IOS, but it is way too pricey if you're 
not running a major site - and even then, it's questionable. You're 
going to be far better off with Bering uClibc and any kind of hardware 
than you are spending the money a Cisco will cost, especially since most 
of them you'll need to buy a second ethernet card for your external 
interface and actually get a license for IOS.


George


Andrew Nance wrote:

Hi group,
I have been using Bering uClibc for a couple of years now.  It has been rock
solid and great.  My thanks go out to everyone.
I currently use my leaf box with 5 static ip's without any major problems.

But my question to you guys and gals is do you know of an over the counter
firewall/router (like Linksys, D-Link, or Netgear) that can route multiple
public static IP's for a single cable or dsl connection?
If there are no "cheaper" solutions, what would an entry level cisco model
be? 
How would these solutions compare price wise to a WRAP running uClibc?



Thanks in advance,
Andrew



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RE: [leaf-user] multiple static ip address router/firewall

2005-07-13 Thread Andrew Nance
Thanks George,

That's what I was afraid of.  It looks like my options now are to build (or
buy cheep dell ($300 w/ no OS)) computer to handle firewall/routing or go
with the wrap or soekris.
I plan on having multiple video streams going through this router/firewall
nearly 24/7. (i.e. Lots of bandwidth, very few connections) Do you think I
need the extra cpu of a regular computer or will the wrap be able to handle
it?

Thanks,
Andrew

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Metz
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 5:27 AM
To: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [leaf-user] multiple static ip address router/firewall

None of the over-the-counter router-in-a-boxes are going to be able to 
handle multiple static IPs, with the possible exception of a Linksys 
that's had it's firmware replaced with a Linux-based one from the 
hardware hacking groups.

An entry level Cisco is hideously expensive; I found two on Pricewatch 
for $389 USD from a retailer with truly bad reviews. Last time I looked 
for one (which, admittedly, was a couple of years ago) the same model 
was going for $1500 USD refurbished.

I adore Cisco equipment and the IOS, but it is way too pricey if you're 
not running a major site - and even then, it's questionable. You're 
going to be far better off with Bering uClibc and any kind of hardware 
than you are spending the money a Cisco will cost, especially since most 
of them you'll need to buy a second ethernet card for your external 
interface and actually get a license for IOS.

George


Andrew Nance wrote:
> Hi group,
> I have been using Bering uClibc for a couple of years now.  It has been
rock
> solid and great.  My thanks go out to everyone.
> I currently use my leaf box with 5 static ip's without any major problems.
> 
> But my question to you guys and gals is do you know of an over the counter
> firewall/router (like Linksys, D-Link, or Netgear) that can route multiple
> public static IP's for a single cable or dsl connection?
> If there are no "cheaper" solutions, what would an entry level cisco model
> be? 
> How would these solutions compare price wise to a WRAP running uClibc?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [leaf-user] multiple static ip address router/firewall

2005-07-13 Thread George Metz
Honestly, I'm not up on the specs for the WRAP or Soekris boards, but 
I'd be fairly surprised if they wouldn't serve admirably. I'm currently 
using, of all things, a Microsoft wireless router that normally just 
serves as my AP point (we just moved, and I have to rebuild my LEAF box 
now that I have a connection the old ISA 3Com cards would throttle) and 
I've had a radio stream, 2 connections to World of Warcraft, and about 5 
threads downloading large files without a real problem. Given that the 
thing is probably the most underpowered router-in-a-box I've seen, just 
about anything should work fine for you.


Andrew Nance wrote:

Thanks George,

That's what I was afraid of.  It looks like my options now are to build (or
buy cheep dell ($300 w/ no OS)) computer to handle firewall/routing or go
with the wrap or soekris.
I plan on having multiple video streams going through this router/firewall
nearly 24/7. (i.e. Lots of bandwidth, very few connections) Do you think I
need the extra cpu of a regular computer or will the wrap be able to handle
it?

Thanks,
Andrew

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Metz
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 5:27 AM
To: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [leaf-user] multiple static ip address router/firewall

None of the over-the-counter router-in-a-boxes are going to be able to 
handle multiple static IPs, with the possible exception of a Linksys 
that's had it's firmware replaced with a Linux-based one from the 
hardware hacking groups.


An entry level Cisco is hideously expensive; I found two on Pricewatch 
for $389 USD from a retailer with truly bad reviews. Last time I looked 
for one (which, admittedly, was a couple of years ago) the same model 
was going for $1500 USD refurbished.


I adore Cisco equipment and the IOS, but it is way too pricey if you're 
not running a major site - and even then, it's questionable. You're 
going to be far better off with Bering uClibc and any kind of hardware 
than you are spending the money a Cisco will cost, especially since most 
of them you'll need to buy a second ethernet card for your external 
interface and actually get a license for IOS.


George


Andrew Nance wrote:


Hi group,
I have been using Bering uClibc for a couple of years now.  It has been


rock


solid and great.  My thanks go out to everyone.
I currently use my leaf box with 5 static ip's without any major problems.

But my question to you guys and gals is do you know of an over the counter
firewall/router (like Linksys, D-Link, or Netgear) that can route multiple
public static IP's for a single cable or dsl connection?
If there are no "cheaper" solutions, what would an entry level cisco model
be? 
How would these solutions compare price wise to a WRAP running uClibc?



Thanks in advance,
Andrew



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RE: [leaf-user] multiple static ip address router/firewall

2005-07-13 Thread Arne Bernin
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 10:06 -0500, Andrew Nance wrote:
> I plan on having multiple video streams going through this router/firewall
> nearly 24/7. (i.e. Lots of bandwidth, very few connections) Do you think I
> need the extra cpu of a regular computer or will the wrap be able to handle
> it?
> 

Can you estimate how much bandwidth you use (average/peek) ?

> Thanks,
> Andrew

--arne

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RE: [leaf-user] lm_sensors for Bering uClibc - Lex Neo CV863A from Hacom

2005-07-13 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Richard,

>One thing I would very much like to do is monitor the health of these
>boxes using something like lm_sensors. The only thing I have found about
>this are two uClibc LEAF CVS entries regarding lmsensors.
>
>Does anyone have any information on this?
>
we indeed have added lm-sensors modules to CVS and they are also included in 
the kernel tarball for the latest Bering-uClibc beta.
I can't tell you very much about it, both teammembers who have some experience 
with it are on a well deserved vacation :-)

You need the modules that fit with your hardware, you can find info on the 
lm-sensors homepage. You can use lcd4linux to read the info from the sensors or 
you could build a lm-sensors userspace package with buildtool (packages not yet 
in CVS).

If you're not able to build the userspace package with buildtool, drop me a 
mail offlist and I will send the package to you.

Eric Spakman



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RE: [leaf-user] RE: Some questions regarding LEAF on WRAP box

2005-07-13 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello,

>it will work with madwifi drivers. The only thing is that Bering-U official 
>release does not have madwifi drivers and I need to compile them myself -:(
>
The madwifi drivers are not in the tarball (yet), but there is a setup in 
buildtool. If you are using the latest Bering-uClibc beta (kernel 2.4.31) you 
can build the madwiwifi drivers using buildtool.

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[leaf-user] Bering-uClibc packages in testing

2005-07-13 Thread KP Kirchdoerfer
Hi all;

as you probably know there some packages in "testing" for Bering-uClibc:

http://leaf.sourceforge.net/bering-uclibc/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=3&MMN_position=3:3#TESTING

Those packages has been build by user request, provided without any further 
documentation and has been gone through minimal testing, just to see if they 
start successfully.

If you want to help LEAF Bering-uClibc, you may want to test one of these 
packages, maybe provide some documentation and/or just give feedback.

(Scott Merrill: squid shouldn't be in testing anymore - you helped a lot to 
improve it).

Most notable recent additions has been the lm-sensors packages and tor 
(http://tor.eff.org/).

thx
kp


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RE: [leaf-user] Bering-uClibc packages in testing

2005-07-13 Thread Peter Mueller
> as you probably know there some packages in "testing" for 
> Bering-uClibc:

Is ethtool supposed to be in testing?  I think a lot of people use this..

Regards,

P


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