Re: [Leaf-user] Connecting to my company's Win2k server via VPN with L2TP/IPsec

2002-01-14 Thread Mike Noyes

At 2002-01-14 09:37 -0600, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
>There's a VPN-Masquerading HOWTO available:
>http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/VPN-Masquerade-HOWTO.html

Charles,
There is an article in issue 93 of Linux Journal that may help Eric. He can 
read it on-line at:

Issue 93: Setting up a VPN Gateway
January 01, 2002 by Duncan Napier
http://linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4772

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Re: [Leaf-user] Connecting to my company's Win2k server via VPN

2002-01-14 Thread Scott C. Best


DOH. Forgot a small piece: as Charles pointed out, in
order to get VPN passthru to work, you need to uncomment the
ip_masq_ipsec line in your /etc/modules file, backup the changes,
and reboot. Since you're running Dachstein, you don't need to
upgrade the kernel or anything too tricky.

Good luck!

-Scott

On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Scott C. Best wrote:

> Eric:
>   Heya. My wife connects to her corporate VPN server in very
> much the same way. Yes, it's true: I keep echoWall well-maintained
> because she makes me. :)
>   Give echowall.lrp a try. I do not think you need to install
> ipsec.lrp into your firewall: that will connect your entire home
> LAN into the corporate LAN and you probably want just one machine.
> That is, if you put ipsec.lrp onto your firewall, all of your home
> machine's requests to the Internet will "emerge" from behind your
> company's firewall. If you simply connect your one machine, though,
> your other machines will be unaffected.
>
>   I refer to this easier mode of IPSec usage as "VPN passthru",
> and I'm fairly confident your IT group at work will support it. Most
> home users have some "DSL router" appliance, like a LinkSys box, on
> their broadband connection, and the low-end boxes don't support the
> more complicated "VPN endpoint" mode. So, give echowall.lrp a try,
> and see if it flies for you. You'll notice in the .conf file that
> IPSec is already in the WANTED_SERVICES list. Yes, really, blame my
> wife for that one. :)
>
> cheers,
> Scott
>
> > First, let me apologize if I get any (or all!) of the technical jargon
> > here confused, backwards, or just plain wrong.
> >
> > Second, let me describe my situation.  I am using a Pentium 133mhz with
> > 16MB RAM to run Dachstein 1.0.2 to share my internet connection among
> > the numerous computers in my house.  The router runs a DHCP server for
> > the computers on my internal network and runs a DHCP client to connect
> > with my ISP, but this is just for convienence as my ISP provides me with
> > a static IP.  The computers (Win98, Win2k, and WinXP) on my internal
> > network all work flawlessly through the router for "normal" internet
> > access.
> >
> > My company provides access to its network over the Internet in the form
> > of a VPN (operated by a Windows 2000 Server, I believe).  I connect to
> > this VPN using Windows 2000 Professional.  All worked fine connecting to
> > the VPN through my home router until my company began using L2TP/IPsec
> > for the VPN connections.  Now, I get no response from the company VPN
> > server when trying to connect.  (Note, however, that I *can* connect
> > just fine when my computer is connected directly to my ISP, i.e. without
> > the interference of my LRP box.  So my sense is that there are no
> > configuration problems on the client computer, but rather something
> > wrong with my LRP configuration.)
> >
> > Third, I know very little about Linux -- largely because I lack
> > experience -- but I was wondering if someone might point me in the right
> > direction on this problem.  As an additional bit of information, a guy
> > in the IS department informed me that UDP ports 500 and 1701 would be
> > involved in the solution, but I am not certain how to act on this
> > information in configuring my router.
> >
> > I have begun to look at the ipsec.lrp package available for Dachstein,
> > but I have not been able to use it to solve my problems.  I do not know,
> > however, if this is a fault in my configuration of the package or if the
> > package does not support Level 2 Tunneling (L2TP).
> >
> > If anyone has some experience in a similar situation or would be willing
> > to help a poor old guy trying to get his LRP box to work again, I would
> > much appreciate it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eric Friedman
> >
> >
> > P.S. Please note as well that while I am currently running Dachstein off
> > of a single floppy, I also have access to a CD or additional floppy
> > drive that I could install in the router box.  So do not worry about
> > offering solutions that may require more space than is available on a
> > single floppy: I just want something that will work.
>
>
>



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Re: [Leaf-user] Connecting to my company's Win2k server via VPN

2002-01-14 Thread Scott C. Best

Eric:
Heya. My wife connects to her corporate VPN server in very
much the same way. Yes, it's true: I keep echoWall well-maintained
because she makes me. :)
Give echowall.lrp a try. I do not think you need to install
ipsec.lrp into your firewall: that will connect your entire home
LAN into the corporate LAN and you probably want just one machine.
That is, if you put ipsec.lrp onto your firewall, all of your home
machine's requests to the Internet will "emerge" from behind your
company's firewall. If you simply connect your one machine, though,
your other machines will be unaffected.

I refer to this easier mode of IPSec usage as "VPN passthru",
and I'm fairly confident your IT group at work will support it. Most
home users have some "DSL router" appliance, like a LinkSys box, on
their broadband connection, and the low-end boxes don't support the
more complicated "VPN endpoint" mode. So, give echowall.lrp a try,
and see if it flies for you. You'll notice in the .conf file that
IPSec is already in the WANTED_SERVICES list. Yes, really, blame my
wife for that one. :)

cheers,
Scott

> First, let me apologize if I get any (or all!) of the technical jargon
> here confused, backwards, or just plain wrong.
>
> Second, let me describe my situation.  I am using a Pentium 133mhz with
> 16MB RAM to run Dachstein 1.0.2 to share my internet connection among
> the numerous computers in my house.  The router runs a DHCP server for
> the computers on my internal network and runs a DHCP client to connect
> with my ISP, but this is just for convienence as my ISP provides me with
> a static IP.  The computers (Win98, Win2k, and WinXP) on my internal
> network all work flawlessly through the router for "normal" internet
> access.
>
> My company provides access to its network over the Internet in the form
> of a VPN (operated by a Windows 2000 Server, I believe).  I connect to
> this VPN using Windows 2000 Professional.  All worked fine connecting to
> the VPN through my home router until my company began using L2TP/IPsec
> for the VPN connections.  Now, I get no response from the company VPN
> server when trying to connect.  (Note, however, that I *can* connect
> just fine when my computer is connected directly to my ISP, i.e. without
> the interference of my LRP box.  So my sense is that there are no
> configuration problems on the client computer, but rather something
> wrong with my LRP configuration.)
>
> Third, I know very little about Linux -- largely because I lack
> experience -- but I was wondering if someone might point me in the right
> direction on this problem.  As an additional bit of information, a guy
> in the IS department informed me that UDP ports 500 and 1701 would be
> involved in the solution, but I am not certain how to act on this
> information in configuring my router.
>
> I have begun to look at the ipsec.lrp package available for Dachstein,
> but I have not been able to use it to solve my problems.  I do not know,
> however, if this is a fault in my configuration of the package or if the
> package does not support Level 2 Tunneling (L2TP).
>
> If anyone has some experience in a similar situation or would be willing
> to help a poor old guy trying to get his LRP box to work again, I would
> much appreciate it.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Friedman
>
>
> P.S. Please note as well that while I am currently running Dachstein off
> of a single floppy, I also have access to a CD or additional floppy
> drive that I could install in the router box.  So do not worry about
> offering solutions that may require more space than is available on a
> single floppy: I just want something that will work.



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Re: [Leaf-user] Connecting to my company's Win2k server via VPN with L2TP/IPsec

2002-01-14 Thread Ed Tetz

Eric,

In the how-to Charles refered to, read section 6.1. It basically says that
you may not be able to masquared your IPSec connection, based on the AH and
ESP protocols that are used. There-in is the problem for connecting to a
Win2000 VPN server. You IS people may be able to find a way around this, but
it weakens security. PPTP may be easier for them to configure and it
masquared better, but that goes back to security.

cheers
edt
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From: "Charles Steinkuehler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Eric Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] Connecting to my company's Win2k server via VPN
with L2TP/IPsec


> > Third, I know very little about Linux -- largely because I lack
> > experience -- but I was wondering if someone might point me in the right
> > direction on this problem.  As an additional bit of information, a guy
> > in the IS department informed me that UDP ports 500 and 1701 would be
> > involved in the solution, but I am not certain how to act on this
> > information in configuring my router.
> >
> > I have begun to look at the ipsec.lrp package available for Dachstein,
> > but I have not been able to use it to solve my problems.  I do not know,
> > however, if this is a fault in my configuration of the package or if the
> > package does not support Level 2 Tunneling (L2TP).
>
> You probably don't want the IPSec software running on your firewall.  You
> can leave the IPSec client on your windows box, but you'll need
masquerading
> support for the IPSec protocol.  There's a VPN-Masquerading HOWTO
available:
> http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/VPN-Masquerade-HOWTO.html
>
> Basically, you need to load the ip_masq_ipsec masquerade helper module,
and
> allow UDP port 500 and IP protocol 50 traffic between your firewall and
the
> VPN peer.
>
> For the kernel module, just make sure ip_masq_ipsec.o is in /lib/modules,
> and make sure it's being loaded in /etc/modules.
>
> To setup the firewall rules, you'll need something like:
> EXTERN_UDP_PORTS="0/0_500"
> EXTERN_PROTO0="50 0/0"
>
> NOTE:  You can change the 0/0 (the whole internet) to the particular IP
> address(es) of the far end of your VPN system, if there's a short list of
> IP's you'll be connecting to.
>
> Charles Steinkuehler
> http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
> http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)
>
>
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Re: [Leaf-user] Connecting to my company's Win2k server via VPN with L2TP/IPsec

2002-01-14 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

> Third, I know very little about Linux -- largely because I lack
> experience -- but I was wondering if someone might point me in the right
> direction on this problem.  As an additional bit of information, a guy
> in the IS department informed me that UDP ports 500 and 1701 would be
> involved in the solution, but I am not certain how to act on this
> information in configuring my router.
>
> I have begun to look at the ipsec.lrp package available for Dachstein,
> but I have not been able to use it to solve my problems.  I do not know,
> however, if this is a fault in my configuration of the package or if the
> package does not support Level 2 Tunneling (L2TP).

You probably don't want the IPSec software running on your firewall.  You
can leave the IPSec client on your windows box, but you'll need masquerading
support for the IPSec protocol.  There's a VPN-Masquerading HOWTO available:
http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/VPN-Masquerade-HOWTO.html

Basically, you need to load the ip_masq_ipsec masquerade helper module, and
allow UDP port 500 and IP protocol 50 traffic between your firewall and the
VPN peer.

For the kernel module, just make sure ip_masq_ipsec.o is in /lib/modules,
and make sure it's being loaded in /etc/modules.

To setup the firewall rules, you'll need something like:
EXTERN_UDP_PORTS="0/0_500"
EXTERN_PROTO0="50 0/0"

NOTE:  You can change the 0/0 (the whole internet) to the particular IP
address(es) of the far end of your VPN system, if there's a short list of
IP's you'll be connecting to.

Charles Steinkuehler
http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
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Re: [Leaf-user] Connecting to my company's Win2k server via VPN with L2TP/IPsec

2002-01-12 Thread Ed Tetz

Hi Eric,

Here are two main points about IP/Sec, which is the problem you are having.

* IP/Sec can be configured in two methods, Endpoint and Tunnel.
* The IP address of the encrypting computer is used in the encryption
algorithm. (So it cannot be modified).

I believe that most people who are using ipsec.lrp are using it as a tunnel
between two LRP boxes. This allows all traffic flowing between two segments,
separated by the Internet to be encrypted. In this case, both computers have
non-translated(non-masq'ed), public addresses, but the computers on the
segment can have translated addresses, since they are doing the encryption.

The other method of using IP/Sec is endpoints. If you Lan is not using a
tunnel to create a secure connection, then an individual host can; but, that
host must have a public, non-translated address as that would invalidate the
encrpytion. In your case, that is why your system works when plugged
directly into, but not when translated.

Your department was correct about the ports, but that would only apply if
you were using a non-translating firewall. Most home users are not using
these, but some corporate LANs are.

I hope that helps, and if anybody has *first hand* knowledge that disagrees
with this, please let me know.  I teach security courses, and this has been
true to the extent of my testing, but I haven't tried this with LRP or DCD.

Cheers
edt

- Original Message -
From: "Eric Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:23 PM
Subject: [Leaf-user] Connecting to my company's Win2k server via VPN with
L2TP/IPsec


> First, let me apologize if I get any (or all!) of the technical jargon
> here confused, backwards, or just plain wrong.
>
> Second, let me describe my situation.  I am using a Pentium 133mhz with
> 16MB RAM to run Dachstein 1.0.2 to share my internet connection among
> the numerous computers in my house.  The router runs a DHCP server for
> the computers on my internal network and runs a DHCP client to connect
> with my ISP, but this is just for convienence as my ISP provides me with
> a static IP.  The computers (Win98, Win2k, and WinXP) on my internal
> network all work flawlessly through the router for "normal" internet
> access.
>
> My company provides access to its network over the Internet in the form
> of a VPN (operated by a Windows 2000 Server, I believe).  I connect to
> this VPN using Windows 2000 Professional.  All worked fine connecting to
> the VPN through my home router until my company began using L2TP/IPsec
> for the VPN connections.  Now, I get no response from the company VPN
> server when trying to connect.  (Note, however, that I *can* connect
> just fine when my computer is connected directly to my ISP, i.e. without
> the interference of my LRP box.  So my sense is that there are no
> configuration problems on the client computer, but rather something
> wrong with my LRP configuration.)
>
> Third, I know very little about Linux -- largely because I lack
> experience -- but I was wondering if someone might point me in the right
> direction on this problem.  As an additional bit of information, a guy
> in the IS department informed me that UDP ports 500 and 1701 would be
> involved in the solution, but I am not certain how to act on this
> information in configuring my router.
>
> I have begun to look at the ipsec.lrp package available for Dachstein,
> but I have not been able to use it to solve my problems.  I do not know,
> however, if this is a fault in my configuration of the package or if the
> package does not support Level 2 Tunneling (L2TP).
>
> If anyone has some experience in a similar situation or would be willing
> to help a poor old guy trying to get his LRP box to work again, I would
> much appreciate it.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Friedman
>
>
> P.S. Please note as well that while I am currently running Dachstein off
> of a single floppy, I also have access to a CD or additional floppy
> drive that I could install in the router box.  So do not worry about
> offering solutions that may require more space than is available on a
> single floppy: I just want something that will work.
>
>
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[Leaf-user] Connecting to my company's Win2k server via VPN with L2TP/IPsec

2002-01-11 Thread Eric Friedman

First, let me apologize if I get any (or all!) of the technical jargon
here confused, backwards, or just plain wrong.

Second, let me describe my situation.  I am using a Pentium 133mhz with
16MB RAM to run Dachstein 1.0.2 to share my internet connection among
the numerous computers in my house.  The router runs a DHCP server for
the computers on my internal network and runs a DHCP client to connect
with my ISP, but this is just for convienence as my ISP provides me with
a static IP.  The computers (Win98, Win2k, and WinXP) on my internal
network all work flawlessly through the router for "normal" internet
access.

My company provides access to its network over the Internet in the form
of a VPN (operated by a Windows 2000 Server, I believe).  I connect to
this VPN using Windows 2000 Professional.  All worked fine connecting to
the VPN through my home router until my company began using L2TP/IPsec
for the VPN connections.  Now, I get no response from the company VPN
server when trying to connect.  (Note, however, that I *can* connect
just fine when my computer is connected directly to my ISP, i.e. without
the interference of my LRP box.  So my sense is that there are no
configuration problems on the client computer, but rather something
wrong with my LRP configuration.)

Third, I know very little about Linux -- largely because I lack
experience -- but I was wondering if someone might point me in the right
direction on this problem.  As an additional bit of information, a guy
in the IS department informed me that UDP ports 500 and 1701 would be
involved in the solution, but I am not certain how to act on this
information in configuring my router.

I have begun to look at the ipsec.lrp package available for Dachstein,
but I have not been able to use it to solve my problems.  I do not know,
however, if this is a fault in my configuration of the package or if the
package does not support Level 2 Tunneling (L2TP).

If anyone has some experience in a similar situation or would be willing
to help a poor old guy trying to get his LRP box to work again, I would
much appreciate it.

Thanks,
Eric Friedman


P.S. Please note as well that while I am currently running Dachstein off
of a single floppy, I also have access to a CD or additional floppy
drive that I could install in the router box.  So do not worry about
offering solutions that may require more space than is available on a
single floppy: I just want something that will work.


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