[leaf-user] Bering & NAT Traversal stuff

2003-03-19 Thread Craig Caughlin
Hi folks,

1.) Do I understand it correctly that the latest Bering(s)(Bering-uClibc &
Bering) both support NAT traversal? I'm a little confused because of the
earlier post entitled "Bering 1.1 and NAT-Traversal" that referred to Alex
Rhomberg's LEAF Page at
http://leaf-project.org/mod.php?mod=userpage&menu=1402&page_id=49 seemed to
suggest you might need to do something different if you wanted your Bering
box to support traversal.

2.) Is it difficult (or even possible) to connect to a box behind Bering
using IPSec? (I have a Windows 2000 Server on my LAN that I would like to
securely connect to.) I see that Jacques says "NAT-Traversal patch allows
FreeS/WAN to be used behind any NAT device by encapsulating ESP in UDP.", so
is it a *better* approach to securely connect to my Bering box (but then how
do you "browse" your LAN?), or should I try to connect to the box directly,
since FreeS/WAN will now NAT traverse?

Thank you for your input!

Craig




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AW: [leaf-user] Bering & NAT Traversal stuff

2003-03-19 Thread Alex Rhomberg

> 1.) Do I understand it correctly that the latest Bering(s)(Bering-uClibc &
> Bering) both support NAT traversal? I'm a little confused because of the
> earlier post entitled "Bering 1.1 and NAT-Traversal" that referred to Alex
> Rhomberg's LEAF Page at
> http://leaf-project.org/mod.php?mod=userpage&menu=1402&page_id=49
> seemed to
> suggest you might need to do something different if you wanted your Bering
> box to support traversal.

Bering 1.1 should support NAT traversal, but there still seem to be some
problems. I use my own kernel available on the page you referenced, and I
have tested it successfully with NAT traversal, plus it includes some more
stuff (ipsec algorithm patches and some netfilter things)

> 2.) Is it difficult (or even possible) to connect to a box behind Bering
> using IPSec? (I have a Windows 2000 Server on my LAN that I would like to
> securely connect to.) I see that Jacques says "NAT-Traversal patch allows
> FreeS/WAN to be used behind any NAT device by encapsulating ESP
> in UDP.",

That's the point of IPSec, secure connections to boxes behind firewalls.
NAT Traversal is needed for this setup:
Server --- Bering  --- Internet  --- NAT-box  --- IPSec Client

If your IPSec Client uses a public IP address, you don't need nat traversal.
It doesn't matter if your Bering box does NAT for your server, as through
the tunnel, you will address the server by its private address without NAT

- Alex



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RE: [leaf-user] Bering & NAT Traversal stuff

2003-03-19 Thread Craig Caughlin
Hi folks,
Thank you Alex for your input! Do I need to do a kernel recompile and stuff
like that (it seems like I do), or do I simply download your kernel, the new
IPSec.lrp package, necessary modules...and then substitute those in place on
my current working Bering CD? Thank you!

Craig


-Original Message-
From: Alex Rhomberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:19 AM
To: Craig Caughlin; LEAF
Subject: AW: [leaf-user] Bering & NAT Traversal stuff



> 1.) Do I understand it correctly that the latest Bering(s)(Bering-uClibc &
> Bering) both support NAT traversal? I'm a little confused because of the
> earlier post entitled "Bering 1.1 and NAT-Traversal" that referred to Alex
> Rhomberg's LEAF Page at
> http://leaf-project.org/mod.php?mod=userpage&menu=1402&page_id=49
> seemed to
> suggest you might need to do something different if you wanted your Bering
> box to support traversal.

Bering 1.1 should support NAT traversal, but there still seem to be some
problems. I use my own kernel available on the page you referenced, and I
have tested it successfully with NAT traversal, plus it includes some more
stuff (ipsec algorithm patches and some netfilter things)

> 2.) Is it difficult (or even possible) to connect to a box behind Bering
> using IPSec? (I have a Windows 2000 Server on my LAN that I would like to
> securely connect to.) I see that Jacques says "NAT-Traversal patch allows
> FreeS/WAN to be used behind any NAT device by encapsulating ESP
> in UDP.",

That's the point of IPSec, secure connections to boxes behind firewalls.
NAT Traversal is needed for this setup:
Server --- Bering  --- Internet  --- NAT-box  --- IPSec Client

If your IPSec Client uses a public IP address, you don't need nat traversal.
It doesn't matter if your Bering box does NAT for your server, as through
the tunnel, you will address the server by its private address without NAT

- Alex





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RE: [leaf-user] Bering & NAT Traversal stuff

2003-03-19 Thread Craig Caughlin
Hi folks,
Alex - One final question: Is there a .lrp package for the Super FreeS/WAN,
or is it compiled within the kernel on your site? Is all I need to do what
you mention, "You should be able to use the kernel, modules and ipsec.lrp on
my page without a recompile. Don't forget to replace all modules in
/boot/lib/modules (initrd.lrp) and /lib/modules (modules.lrp)."???

Thank you.
Craig






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AW: [leaf-user] Bering & NAT Traversal stuff

2003-03-20 Thread Alex Rhomberg
> Alex - One final question: Is there a .lrp package for the Super
> FreeS/WAN,
> or is it compiled within the kernel on your site? Is all I need to do what
> you mention, "You should be able to use the kernel, modules and
> ipsec.lrp on
> my page without a recompile. Don't forget to replace all modules in
> /boot/lib/modules (initrd.lrp) and /lib/modules (modules.lrp)."???

For Super-FreeS/WAN, you need the kernel, the ipsec.lrp package and the
modules, but not more.
I might eventually rename the package and call it sfsipsec.lrp or something
like that (I hate 8.3 filenames)

- Alex



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RE: [leaf-user] Bering & NAT Traversal stuff

2003-03-20 Thread Craig Caughlin
Hi folks,
Alex - So there's no "package" that I need I need for
Super-FreeS/WAN?...it's already "included" (compiled?) within your
kernel...is that right? Is there any documentation you can refer me to that
would help me set up my Bering and take advantage of the NAT traversal? :-)

Thank you very much!
Craig

-Original Message-
From: Alex Rhomberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 7:16 AM
To: Craig Caughlin; LEAF-user
Subject: AW: [leaf-user] Bering & NAT Traversal stuff


> Alex - One final question: Is there a .lrp package for the Super
> FreeS/WAN,
> or is it compiled within the kernel on your site? Is all I need to do what
> you mention, "You should be able to use the kernel, modules and
> ipsec.lrp on
> my page without a recompile. Don't forget to replace all modules in
> /boot/lib/modules (initrd.lrp) and /lib/modules (modules.lrp)."???

For Super-FreeS/WAN, you need the kernel, the ipsec.lrp package and the
modules, but not more.
I might eventually rename the package and call it sfsipsec.lrp or something
like that (I hate 8.3 filenames)

- Alex





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AW: [leaf-user] Bering & NAT Traversal stuff

2003-03-21 Thread Alex Rhomberg
Craig,

> Thank you Alex for your input! Do I need to do a kernel recompile
> and stuff
> like that (it seems like I do), or do I simply download your
> kernel, the new
> IPSec.lrp package, necessary modules...and then substitute those
> in place on
> my current working Bering CD? Thank you!

You should be able to use the kernel, modules and ipsec.lrp on my page
without a recompile. Don't forget to replace all modules in
/boot/lib/modules (initrd.lrp) and /lib/modules (modules.lrp). The LEAF
construction kit on my page would do that for you :-)

If you want to compile your own kernel, you might find my description useful

Cheers
Alex



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