[leaf-user] Lince future (was lets talk about something--anything!)

2005-06-28 Thread Jaime Nebrera
  Hi all,

  As main coordinator of Lince project (Juan Jesus is its main
developer) I want to comment on future of Lince as it has been mentioned
in this list latelly.

  Some of the features some people are asking about in the list (mainly
easy perdurable updates and flexibility) have been incorporated in
Lince, but this release has not been made public. The reason? In this
time our company has gone a major redo and has been very hard to explain
to our business angels that it was a good idea to release to the public
something we have done and are charging our clients :)

  In this time we have been mainly busy discussing this, and at the end
we have reached an agreement. Most probably we will release to the
public old releases and keep current ones to our paid customers. We are
planning on a new public release in about a week or so.

  So whats new in Lince?

  1) As said when Lince was born, we keep to the idea of including more
software than standard leaf. The reason is we use Compact Flash as
storage system and this days 128MB is really cheap. So some decisions
and features are not very polished, we could reduce space a bit more,
but frankly, we dont care we have plenty of space to use :) Currently we
are migrating Lince from a Leaf based glibc distro to a GNAP uClibc
based distro (Gentoo), so this public release might be one of the latest
to be done based on Debian.

  2) Even when we think of Lince as a whole (firmware) sometimes we have
needed to include extra packages, thats why is still compatible with old
lrp style packages (Now supports cloop, cramfs and lrp packages).

  3) We have developed our own propietary Management App in JAVA called
MarteGUI. Currently it manages all aspects of Lince. Still, its possible
to use Lince without this management app (actually, thats what we
release to the public). This app is done in such a way that we dont need
to modify the core system. We pack Lince and this app in some hardware
appliances that we sell to our clients (as a box or as a managed
service). You can see pictures of the boxes and software in
www.eneotecnologia.com/mambo/ - Hardware / Software. BTW, the app is in
english too and we are seeking for resellers :)

  4) Lince (core) currently has the following features:

  * Standard and bridged system
  * Advanced firewall (Shorewall 2.4)
  * QoS
  * NetFlow Probe
  * Automatic update (via http)
  * Web proxy and filtering
  * Web user auth (LDAP, MSAD)
  * High availability (VRRP and STP)
  * Load Balancing (IPVS)
  * IPSec VPN

  All of them are managed from the GUI but can be managed without it.

  We are releasing this to the public again as a way to foster
development around Lince. If we have success on this and some people
step forward and give us a hand, we will continue releasing Lince to the
public. We could even pay for this help for long term contributers with
our software :) If not, well we will need to discuss this topic again
with the investors :(

  5) We are currently working on:

  * Snort Inline integration
  * IPVS syncronization between different load balancers

  As said, we intend to stay using Debian for a short time, just until
we get GNAP working properly. That means porting to 2.6 and many others,
but this needs a different email :)

  What do you think? Good enough to increase the emails in the
list? :

  Regards

-- 
Jaime Nebrera - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Consultor TI - ENEO Tecnologia SL
Telf.- 95 455 40 62 - 619 04 55 18



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Re: [leaf-user] Lince future (was lets talk about something--anything!)

2005-06-28 Thread Paul Traina

Jaime Nebrera wrote:

  Some of the features some people are asking about in the list (mainly
easy perdurable updates and flexibility) have been incorporated in
Lince, but this release has not been made public. The reason? In this
time our company has gone a major redo and has been very hard to explain
to our business angels that it was a good idea to release to the public
something we have done and are charging our clients :)


Do you have a strategy for doing this while remining compliant with the 
terms of the software you have licensed (the GPL)?


Netgear and linksys are two very profitable organizations who produce 
GPL derived router products and release the source code and development 
kits for their GPL based products.



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Re: [leaf-user] Lince future (was lets talk about something--anything!)

2005-06-28 Thread Jaime Nebrera
  Hi Paul,

 Do you have a strategy for doing this while remining compliant with the 
 terms of the software you have licensed (the GPL)?

  Yes, we have been very careful on that. Actually all of the code in
the core system (what you know as Lince) is under GPL, LGPL, BSD
except antivirus (if used). We have done some improvements to some of
the GPL apps used but they are in the core too as GPL (of course).

  MarteGUI is just a manager that connects to a system, donwloads a
config database, parses new configuration files, copies them to the
system and restarts services as needed. In essence, it mimics the
commands the admin executes. That way we dont have problems with GPL.

 Netgear and linksys are two very profitable organizations who produce 
 GPL derived router products and release the source code and development 
 kits for their GPL based products.

  Actually we are thinking on using their hardware to port our software
solution. BTW, we have done the same with a Crossbeam X40 system :)

  Regards

-- 
Jaime Nebrera - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Consultor TI - ENEO Tecnologia SL
Telf.- 95 455 40 62 - 619 04 55 18



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Re: [leaf-user] Lince future (was lets talk about something--anything!)

2005-06-28 Thread Paul Traina
Cool, glad to hear it.  Getting slammed with the Oh crap, we're 
polluted thing at the last minute can really cause heartburn.


Paul



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