Re: [leaf-user] My leaf crashed
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 08:21, Erich Titl wrote: > Al > > At 00:10 11.11.2004 -0500, ALParada wrote: > >I did backup root but never considered the memory issue. I'm using a 128 MB > >stick and allocating 10 MB to the system with 3 MB for the logs. I can't say > >I looked at the space thinking there must be plenty. > > I found one of the most frequent glitches I made was leaving the disk mounted > when backing up root.lrp. As you can imagine this recursion eats up all > available space. ditto, i allways used to do this. in the old releases i made a /mnt/disk /mnt/floppy and fstab entrys to match and made sure the /mnt was excluded in the root backups, to avoid doing this again. i think ??? maybee ??? the /mnt is included in the exclusion as default nowadays.. -- Ronny Aasen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: FW: [leaf-user] My leaf crashed
You may have run out of memory space on your RAM disk while you were doing the full backup (Or something like that ;) This could have caused the package to go corrupted. My experience of kernel panic in leaf is often due to some lack of memory. This is what I would investigate if I were you. Regards, Livio @ ravetto DOT org Joe Nelson wrote: Apparently, I didn't realize that when I responded to this earlier, it went to ALParada personally and not to the list. (Sorry, I'm new on this particular list.) I'm resending this to the list so that everyone can benefit from the discusion: -Original Message- From: ALParada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:46 PM To: Joe Nelson Subject: Re: [leaf-user] My leaf crashed Now that you mention it, I did do a full backup before I rebooted. I am using a Flash Drive so it isn't a big deal to back up everything. I tend to backup everything and not only just the package that I modified. Even though I have done this countless times, I wonder. - Original Message - From: "Joe Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'ALParada'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:26 PM Subject: RE: [leaf-user] My leaf crashed I'm not sure if its related, but last week we added bash.lrp to our leaf router and then we made some changes to it. After the changes we backed it up. Then we ended up rebooting the device while we moved it to a new power plug. When we tried to boot it back up, bash was missing and that caused some issues cause the default shell for root was bash. After some digging we found out that anytime we backed up bash.lrp, it would somehow create a very small file. Its like it doesn't know what to put in the .lrp or maybe its being truncated or something. I guess I just throwing out some ideas. Your root.lrp may have been a victim of the same issue as our bash.lrp. ??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ALParada Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 7:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leaf-user] My leaf crashed Hello, I had a problem with Leaf yesterday that surprised me a little bit. Last night I rebooted it via Putty and well it never came back up. This morning I showed up to find a kernel panic. This was a working system not something new. It has been flawless for about 6 months now. It goes to load root and stalls then loads some more packages and then it says can't find \var\lib\lrpkg\root.dev.own. I opened the *.lrp and the file was there. I ended up replacing the root.lrp with a backup and it was happy again. Has anyone seen this before or know why this would happen. I am using uClibc 2.1.0. TIA --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idU88&alloc_id065&op=click leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] My leaf crashed
Al At 00:10 11.11.2004 -0500, ALParada wrote: >I did backup root but never considered the memory issue. I'm using a 128 MB >stick and allocating 10 MB to the system with 3 MB for the logs. I can't say >I looked at the space thinking there must be plenty. I found one of the most frequent glitches I made was leaving the disk mounted when backing up root.lrp. As you can imagine this recursion eats up all available space. Erich THINK Püntenstrasse 39 8143 Stallikon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: BC9A 25BC 3954 3BC8 C024 8D8A B7D4 FF9D 05B8 0A16 --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idU88&alloc_id065&op=click leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
FW: [leaf-user] My leaf crashed
Apparently, I didn't realize that when I responded to this earlier, it went to ALParada personally and not to the list. (Sorry, I'm new on this particular list.) I'm resending this to the list so that everyone can benefit from the discusion: -Original Message- From: ALParada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:46 PM To: Joe Nelson Subject: Re: [leaf-user] My leaf crashed Now that you mention it, I did do a full backup before I rebooted. I am using a Flash Drive so it isn't a big deal to back up everything. I tend to backup everything and not only just the package that I modified. Even though I have done this countless times, I wonder. - Original Message - From: "Joe Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'ALParada'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:26 PM Subject: RE: [leaf-user] My leaf crashed I'm not sure if its related, but last week we added bash.lrp to our leaf router and then we made some changes to it. After the changes we backed it up. Then we ended up rebooting the device while we moved it to a new power plug. When we tried to boot it back up, bash was missing and that caused some issues cause the default shell for root was bash. After some digging we found out that anytime we backed up bash.lrp, it would somehow create a very small file. Its like it doesn't know what to put in the .lrp or maybe its being truncated or something. I guess I just throwing out some ideas. Your root.lrp may have been a victim of the same issue as our bash.lrp. ??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ALParada Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 7:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leaf-user] My leaf crashed Hello, I had a problem with Leaf yesterday that surprised me a little bit. Last night I rebooted it via Putty and well it never came back up. This morning I showed up to find a kernel panic. This was a working system not something new. It has been flawless for about 6 months now. It goes to load root and stalls then loads some more packages and then it says can't find \var\lib\lrpkg\root.dev.own. I opened the *.lrp and the file was there. I ended up replacing the root.lrp with a backup and it was happy again. Has anyone seen this before or know why this would happen. I am using uClibc 2.1.0. TIA --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idU88&alloc_id065&op=click leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] My leaf crashed
I did backup root but never considered the memory issue. I'm using a 128 MB stick and allocating 10 MB to the system with 3 MB for the logs. I can't say I looked at the space thinking there must be plenty. - Original Message - From: "Victor McAllister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ALParada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [leaf-user] My leaf crashed > ALParada wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >I had a problem with Leaf yesterday that surprised me a little bit. Last > >night I rebooted it via Putty and well it never came back up. This morning I > >showed up to find a kernel panic. This was a working system not something > >new. It has been flawless for about 6 months now. It goes to load root and > >stalls then loads some more packages and then it says can't find > >\var\lib\lrpkg\root.dev.own. I opened the *.lrp and the file was there. I > >ended up replacing the root.lrp with a backup and it was happy again. Has > >anyone seen this before or know why this would happen. I am using uClibc > >2.1.0. > > > >TIA > > > > > backing up root itself can sometimes cause this if the box doesn't have > enough memory. Normally root does not need backup unless you are > modifying something out of the ordinary. > > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] My leaf crashed
Bad floppy drive/disks can give said effects. My drive/disk is currently in that transient-problem state itself (I'm fairly certain it's the drive, not the disk). scott; canada ALParada wrote: Hello, I had a problem with Leaf yesterday that surprised me a little bit. Last --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
[leaf-user] My leaf crashed
Hello, I had a problem with Leaf yesterday that surprised me a little bit. Last night I rebooted it via Putty and well it never came back up. This morning I showed up to find a kernel panic. This was a working system not something new. It has been flawless for about 6 months now. It goes to load root and stalls then loads some more packages and then it says can't find \var\lib\lrpkg\root.dev.own. I opened the *.lrp and the file was there. I ended up replacing the root.lrp with a backup and it was happy again. Has anyone seen this before or know why this would happen. I am using uClibc 2.1.0. TIA --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
