Re: [leaf-user] Wanted: easy way to see load over time

2005-07-28 Thread Philippe Jayet
Eric,

A very effective but not so easy way to see exactly what sort of traffic
your router has been moving, is to install a NetFlow probe on your
router. It will forward flows to a NetFlow collector, permitting further
analysis and graphing on the traffic. You would then be able to
categorize the traffic (for example http/ftp/mail/p2p/other for in/out,
by host/subnet, period of time) quite precisely.

Some pointers:
* A NetFlow probe that runs on Bering-uClibc: fprobe-ulog (I compiled it
successfully but no extensive tests done) [1]
* A NetFlow collector / processor: NfDump [2]
* A NetFlow web-based reporting engine: NfSen [3]

Hope this may help you,

Philippe J.


[1] http://fprobe.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://nfdump.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://nfsen.sourceforge.net/


Eric House wrote:
 I'd like to be able to see at a glance what sort of traffic my LEAF
 router's been moving over the past hours/days/weeks/whatever.  Is
 there any way to do that now given packages available (for the uClibc
 version, ideally.)
 
 If not, I'm imagining writing something to plug into webmin.  It might
 look like this:
 
 * cron jobs to log cumulative traffic on eth0 (say), probably by
   calling 'ip addr', every 1 or 5 or 10 minutes or so.
 
 * cgi scripts to parse the above, producing a crude bar graph using a
   borderless table
 
 * the page produced could probably allow display by hour, day, week,
   etc., with links to drill down into bars or look at a larger view.
   Typical parameterized cgi stuff.
 
 I'm not sure when I'd have time for this, but does it strike folks as
 useful and not duplicating something we already have?
 
 Thanks,
 
 --Eric


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Re: [leaf-user] Wanted: easy way to see load over time

2005-07-28 Thread tom . erjavec
| * the page produced could probably allow display by hour, day, week,
|   etc., with links to drill down into bars or look at a larger view.
|   Typical parameterized cgi stuff.
|
| I'm not sure when I'd have time for this, but does it strike folks as
| useful and not duplicating something we already have?

Hi Eric,

like Charles answered yesterday, I too used snmp lrp packages on my LEAF boxes 
and created views of the stored data with Cacti, a MRTG like package on a 
separate 233 MHz Redhat box. But Cacti seems rather demanding on the 
processor so my monitoring (though on a dedicated machine) was slow in 
response.

If you are after a solution that could generate the badwidth reports through 
HTTP 
directly out of the LEAF box without seriously eating the processing power for 
packet handling, that would be - by my oppinion - a nice and simple option to 
the 
user.

Tom


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Re: [leaf-user] Wanted: easy way to see load over time

2005-07-28 Thread Jaime Nebrera
  Hi,

 A very effective but not so easy way to see exactly what sort of traffic
 your router has been moving, is to install a NetFlow probe on your
 router. It will forward flows to a NetFlow collector, permitting further
 analysis and graphing on the traffic. You would then be able to
 categorize the traffic (for example http/ftp/mail/p2p/other for in/out,
 by host/subnet, period of time) quite precisely.
 
 Some pointers:
 * A NetFlow probe that runs on Bering-uClibc: fprobe-ulog (I compiled it
 successfully but no extensive tests done) [1]

  We are currently using nprobe without any problem in various
production environments in the Lince branch.

 * A NetFlow collector / processor: NfDump [2]

  There are plenty of those.

 * A NetFlow web-based reporting engine: NfSen [3]

  We have developed our own (propietary) as none of the open source
alternatives had the features we needed. You can see some screens at:

http://www.eneotecnologia.com/mambo/ = Software = Eneo Flow = View
screen

  Hope it helps.

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RE: [leaf-user] Wanted: easy way to see load over time

2005-07-28 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Eric,

You could try the pmacct package, it may be exactly what you need.

Eric Spakman

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Subject: [leaf-user] Wanted: easy way to see load over time

I'd like to be able to see at a glance what sort of traffic my LEAF
router's been moving over the past hours/days/weeks/whatever.  Is
there any way to do that now given packages available (for the uClibc
version, ideally.)

If not, I'm imagining writing something to plug into webmin.  It might
look like this:

* cron jobs to log cumulative traffic on eth0 (say), probably by
  calling 'ip addr', every 1 or 5 or 10 minutes or so.

* cgi scripts to parse the above, producing a crude bar graph using a
  borderless table

* the page produced could probably allow display by hour, day, week,
  etc., with links to drill down into bars or look at a larger view.
  Typical parameterized cgi stuff.

I'm not sure when I'd have time for this, but does it strike folks as
useful and not duplicating something we already have?

Thanks,

--Eric
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[leaf-user] Wanted: easy way to see load over time

2005-07-27 Thread Eric House
I'd like to be able to see at a glance what sort of traffic my LEAF
router's been moving over the past hours/days/weeks/whatever.  Is
there any way to do that now given packages available (for the uClibc
version, ideally.)

If not, I'm imagining writing something to plug into webmin.  It might
look like this:

* cron jobs to log cumulative traffic on eth0 (say), probably by
  calling 'ip addr', every 1 or 5 or 10 minutes or so.

* cgi scripts to parse the above, producing a crude bar graph using a
  borderless table

* the page produced could probably allow display by hour, day, week,
  etc., with links to drill down into bars or look at a larger view.
  Typical parameterized cgi stuff.

I'm not sure when I'd have time for this, but does it strike folks as
useful and not duplicating something we already have?

Thanks,

--Eric
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Re: [leaf-user] Wanted: easy way to see load over time

2005-07-27 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

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Eric House wrote:

| I'd like to be able to see at a glance what sort of traffic my LEAF
| router's been moving over the past hours/days/weeks/whatever.  Is
| there any way to do that now given packages available (for the uClibc
| version, ideally.)
|
| If not, I'm imagining writing something to plug into webmin.  It might
| look like this:
|
| * cron jobs to log cumulative traffic on eth0 (say), probably by
|   calling 'ip addr', every 1 or 5 or 10 minutes or so.
|
| * cgi scripts to parse the above, producing a crude bar graph using a
|   borderless table
|
| * the page produced could probably allow display by hour, day, week,
|   etc., with links to drill down into bars or look at a larger view.
|   Typical parameterized cgi stuff.
|
| I'm not sure when I'd have time for this, but does it strike folks as
| useful and not duplicating something we already have?

I track bandwidth (and other stats) on several (about 8) LEAF boxes I have
in production.

I just use SNMP (on the LEAF boxes) and MRTG (running on a debian system,
and tracking lots of other stuff besides just my firewall load).

Firewall rules keep SNMP visible to only trusted hosts (fixed IP blocks), as
SNMP isn't really something you want visible to the raw internet unless you
*REALLY* know what you're doing when locking it down.

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