Re: [Leaf-user] How not to log a deny'ed packet/ip address

2001-11-30 Thread guitarlynn


Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] How not to log a deny'ed packet/ip address
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:16:57 -0600
From: guitarlynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


On Friday 30 November 2001 17:59, you wrote:
>   Dachstein handles the log rotation better than ES2B does,
> sure. For my liking though, I want the stuff in my log files to
> be at least interesting. :)

Yes and the ruleset to Dachstein is nice enough that I have to check
it with the weblet to understand what is going where. Charles posted
the info on the SILENT_DENY option I couldn't figure out.

# Traffic to completely ignore...define here to prevent filling your
logs
# Space seperated list: protocol_srcip/mask_dstport
#SILENT_DENY="udp_207.235.84.1_route udp_207.235.84.0/24_37"

So you want something like:
SILENT_DENY="88_x.y.z.158"

I wasn't thinking about the changes in regards to a subnet compared
to a host. Something as a commented suggestion would have been much
clearer to me, like:

#SILENT_DENY="ProtoNumber_SourceAddress/Netmask_DestinationPort"
#Netmask and DestinationPort are optional

I edited my network.conf file to match these parameter on the web
trash, and waalaa it works perfect.!

Thanks to all again,
Lynn Avants
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Re: [Leaf-user] How not to log a deny'ed packet/ip address

2001-11-30 Thread Scott C. Best

Lynn:

Heya. Late suggestion: try either the echowall.lrp package,
or cut&paste from the end of the echowall.rules file inside of
that package. I built echowall for a 486 with only 16M of RAM
that firewalled me from a cable-modem environment. As you prolly
know, I had to reboot every week or so as the log files got so
hefty.
Dachstein handles the log rotation better than ES2B does,
sure. For my liking though, I want the stuff in my log files to
be at least interesting. :)

cheers,
Scott

> I've got a rogue 10.x.x.x/32 server polling my Dachstein firewall
> twice every 16 seconds for a dhcp server and a port 80 scan every
> 2 minutes. I can't find any info in the archives and sites about
> "dropping" (not logging) these packets when they are deny'ed.
> The packets (webtrash) I am looking to stop logging are being
> denied by rules 10, 12, and 41. What is the syntax or change
> I need to make to quit logging these.
>
> Other than this, Dachstein is perfect, already surviving two DoS
> attacks without a reboot to date.
>
> Thanks all,
> Lynn Avants
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Re: [Leaf-user] How not to log a deny'ed packet/ip address

2001-11-29 Thread guitarlynn

On Thursday 29 November 2001 08:44, you wrote:

> There is a SILENT_DENY setting in network.conf.  Extract details of
> the packets you don't want logged from your existing log files, and
> add them to SILENT_DENY to stop logging them.
>
> Charles Steinkuehler

That wonderful, I've been trying to get the syntax down correctly,
but I can't seem to get it right. I did look at the firewall script...
it's beyond me to completely understand how it is working with
all the variables in this short of a time.

Anyway, I have included my log (messages.txt) as an attachment.
If someone could help me with the SILENT_DENY line(s) that are
needed to block this trash, it would save me countless hours of
trial and error here. I've already played with it for about 3 hours
with no luck.


Thanks again,
Lynn Avants
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Re: [Leaf-user] How not to log a deny'ed packet/ip address

2001-11-29 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

> Is this available in EigerStein2BETA.exe?  I did not see this variable in
> the network.conf file.  Can I just add it?

You can, but it won't work :(

The SILENT_DENY variable was initially added as part of my extended scripts,
so if you install these, you can use SILENT_DENY...or you could just tack on
some rules at the end of ipfilter.conf

Charles Steinkuehler
http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)



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RE: [Leaf-user] How not to log a deny'ed packet/ip address

2001-11-29 Thread Kevin Kropf

Is this available in EigerStein2BETA.exe?  I did not see this variable in
the network.conf file.  Can I just add it?


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> I've got a rogue 10.x.x.x/32 server polling my Dachstein firewall
> twice every 16 seconds for a dhcp server and a port 80 scan every
> 2 minutes. I can't find any info in the archives and sites about
> "dropping" (not logging) these packets when they are deny'ed.
> The packets (webtrash) I am looking to stop logging are being
> denied by rules 10, 12, and 41. What is the syntax or change
> I need to make to quit logging these.
>
> Other than this, Dachstein is perfect, already surviving two DoS
> attacks without a reboot to date.

There is a SILENT_DENY setting in network.conf.  Extract details of the
packets you don't want logged from your existing log files, and add them to
SILENT_DENY to stop logging them.

Charles Steinkuehler
http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)



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Re: [Leaf-user] How not to log a deny'ed packet/ip address

2001-11-29 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

> I've got a rogue 10.x.x.x/32 server polling my Dachstein firewall
> twice every 16 seconds for a dhcp server and a port 80 scan every
> 2 minutes. I can't find any info in the archives and sites about
> "dropping" (not logging) these packets when they are deny'ed.
> The packets (webtrash) I am looking to stop logging are being
> denied by rules 10, 12, and 41. What is the syntax or change
> I need to make to quit logging these.
>
> Other than this, Dachstein is perfect, already surviving two DoS
> attacks without a reboot to date.

There is a SILENT_DENY setting in network.conf.  Extract details of the
packets you don't want logged from your existing log files, and add them to
SILENT_DENY to stop logging them.

Charles Steinkuehler
http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)



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Re: [Leaf-user] How not to log a deny'ed packet/ip address

2001-11-29 Thread Kiril

hello lynn

it is the option -l which is responsible for the logging.

you can redefine a rule like this:

ipchains -R input 7 -s 10.0.0.0/8 -j DENY

this replaces rule nr. 7 on the input chain. (rule nr. 7 was _my_ rule to
deny traffic from 10.0.0.0/8 and log it, i used the above command to replace
it.)

you can of course decide to be more concious then me and log everything else
but your rogue server. in this case you would have to insert a more specific
rule

ipchains -I input 6 -s 10.1.1.2/32 -j DENY

which will silently deny the traffic from that specific server before the
more general rule denies it and loggs it.

it is impossible to determine the exact commands you would have to issue on
your system (i do not use dachstein, so rules 10, 12 and 41 mean nothing to
me). generally you should be able to use the same syntax that generated your
rules in the first place, just avoiding -l.

it is the IPCHAINS-HOWTO
(http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/IPCHAINS-HOWTO-4.html) where more information
can be found.

there is also a great quick reference:
http://users.owt.com/msensney/lrp/ipchains-quickref.pdf

>I've got a rogue 10.x.x.x/32 server polling my Dachstein firewall
>twice every 16 seconds for a dhcp server and a port 80 scan every
>2 minutes. I can't find any info in the archives and sites about
>"dropping" (not logging) these packets when they are deny'ed.
>The packets (webtrash) I am looking to stop logging are being
>denied by rules 10, 12, and 41. What is the syntax or change
>I need to make to quit logging these.
>
>Other than this, Dachstein is perfect, already surviving two DoS
>attacks without a reboot to date.
>
>Thanks all,
>Lynn Avants
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