RE: [Leaf-user] OT: KVM switches

2001-06-26 Thread Peter Nosko

 I called a friend of mine who researched KVM switches thourghly.  He
 recommended these folks when dealing with KVM switches:
 http://tron.com/

 After his searches, he bought a Cybex switch, and is quite happy with it.

pn] I was just looking at the Autoview 200 1x8.  $1100.  Ouch.  But when
weighed against the cost of high quality video for 5-8 boxes...

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RE: [Leaf-user] OT: KVM switches

2001-06-25 Thread Tony

I just went through that same problem of crappy video.  What resolution
are you using and how long is your cables?  Are you getting ghosting?
If so, shitcan those cheap ass cables and get one that is shielded.  I
just picked up a ps/2 set from cyberguys.com for $23 bucks and it solved
all the problems.

BTW, I am using an OmniView SE 4 port.  I use the other crappy cables
for text based machines that don't need high resolution.

Later

Tony



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 pn] Does anyone here use a KVM switch for GUI workstations?
 I use the old
 manual switch boxes for my LRP machines because quality video
 needs are low.
 But I've been using a Belkin Omni-Cube 4-port for X/Linux and
 Windows boxes
 and am unsatisfied with the video degradation.  I'd
 appreciate any feedback
 on reasonably-priced KVM switches with decent video
 performance.  Thanks.

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RE: [Leaf-user] OT: KVM switches

2001-06-25 Thread Peter Nosko

pn] Nope, went there, done that.  I have the deluxe 6' cables with ferrite
cores on each end from the PCs to the switch (just like the cables that come
with monitors, except longer) and I think a 10' cable from the monitor to
the switch.  I can't get much shorted than that with my setup.

pn] My windows boxes are running 1152x864@100MHz.  The 2 Linux boxes are the
same resolution, but I don't know how to tell what the vertical refresh is
on them.

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 I just went through that same problem of crappy video.  What resolution
 are you using and how long is your cables?  Are you getting ghosting?
 If so, shitcan those cheap ass cables and get one that is shielded.  I
 just picked up a ps/2 set from cyberguys.com for $23 bucks and it solved
 all the problems.

 BTW, I am using an OmniView SE 4 port.  I use the other crappy cables
 for text based machines that don't need high resolution.

 Later

 Tony



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  pn] Does anyone here use a KVM switch for GUI workstations?
  I use the old
  manual switch boxes for my LRP machines because quality video
  needs are low.
  But I've been using a Belkin Omni-Cube 4-port for X/Linux and
  Windows boxes
  and am unsatisfied with the video degradation.  I'd
  appreciate any feedback
  on reasonably-priced KVM switches with decent video
  performance.  Thanks.
 
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Re: [Leaf-user] OT: KVM switches

2001-06-25 Thread Sam Slade

I also use the Belkin Omni-View, PS2, with 6 foot cables.  As long as I
stay with no higher than 1024x760 the video is okay.  So I've been
looking also, but the real good ones that work cost many times the price
of the Omni-View, and I haven't seen a decently priced switch  either.

   Sam Slade

Peter Nosko wrote:
 
 pn] Does anyone here use a KVM switch for GUI workstations?  I use the old
 manual switch boxes for my LRP machines because quality video needs are low.
 But I've been using a Belkin Omni-Cube 4-port for X/Linux and Windows boxes
 and am unsatisfied with the video degradation.  I'd appreciate any feedback
 on reasonably-priced KVM switches with decent video performance.  Thanks.
 
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Re: [Leaf-user] OT: KVM switches

2001-06-25 Thread Mike Sensney

At 05:48 PM 06/25/2001 -0400, Peter Nosko wrote:

pn] Does anyone here use a KVM switch for GUI workstations?  I use the old
manual switch boxes for my LRP machines because quality video needs are low.
But I've been using a Belkin Omni-Cube 4-port for X/Linux and Windows boxes
and am unsatisfied with the video degradation.  I'd appreciate any feedback
on reasonably-priced KVM switches with decent video performance.  Thanks.

---
Peter Nosko

I'm using a Generic Brand manual KVM 4 station switch (SW192323M-4) $22.00 
and 6' Video cables (UC1818-06) $6.00 from http://www.nwcable.com. I'm using 
it to connect a 17 CTX Ultra Screen and MS Natural KBD to 2 Windows and 2 
Linux boxes. I can drive the monitor to 1600x1200 and it looks crisp. Much 
better than my eyes can handle. 

The two problems I have with this KVM.

1) The KVM must be switched to a Windows box during boot or it or it won't 
see the KBD. (It is a pain trying to use Windows without a KBD.)

2) The mouse drivers get confused when you switch between boxes which can 
require a reboot to fix. (I use a separate mouse for each computer.)



RE: [Leaf-user] OT: KVM switches

2001-06-25 Thread Peter Nosko

pn] What I've noticed is more important than the specific resolution/refresh
rate is that all devices attached should use as similar as possible a
resolution/refresh rate.  But I still notice (most on the Win2K Server)
several areas on the screen that waver, similar to the way you see heat
rising off a road surface.  I consider spending more, but I want to make
sure that throwing money at the problem will actually solve it.


 Sam Slade Said:

 I also use the Belkin Omni-View, PS2, with 6 foot cables.  As long as I
 stay with no higher than 1024x760 the video is okay.  So I've been
 looking also, but the real good ones that work cost many times the price
 of the Omni-View, and I haven't seen a decently priced switch  either.

Sam Slade

 Peter Nosko wrote:
 
  pn] Does anyone here use a KVM switch for GUI workstations?  I
 use the old
  manual switch boxes for my LRP machines because quality video
 needs are low.
  But I've been using a Belkin Omni-Cube 4-port for X/Linux and
 Windows boxes
  and am unsatisfied with the video degradation.  I'd appreciate
 any feedback
  on reasonably-priced KVM switches with decent video
 performance.  Thanks.
 
  ---
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Re: [Leaf-user] OT: KVM switches

2001-06-25 Thread Matt Schalit

Peter Nosko wrote:
 
 pn] What I've noticed is more important than the specific resolution/refresh
 rate is that all devices attached should use as similar as possible a
 resolution/refresh rate.  But I still notice (most on the Win2K Server)
 several areas on the screen that waver, similar to the way you see heat
 rising off a road surface.  I consider spending more, but I want to make
 sure that throwing money at the problem will actually solve it.


Check out Raritan and ask them why they are so expensive.

Check out www.warehouse.com for lots of good KVM's.
Find a place that offers satisfaction guaranteed and
pay with a credit card.

If you want these to work with Lrp, don't connect the
mouse cable to the Lrp box.

Best,
Matt

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RE: [Leaf-user] OT: KVM switches

2001-06-25 Thread Morgan Reed

Currently using the 2 port Linksys KVM, and I can not sing its praises
enough. runs my 21 monitor with no degradation (that I can see)  at
1024x728 75 Hz.  Monitor rates are one of the things that fall with cheap
cables, and the Linksys cables seem to be pretty good.

I picked mine up for $56.99 at MicroCenter in VA,  this was in the opened
bin, the regular price was $65.


Morgan Reed


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 Peter Nosko wrote:
 
  pn] Does anyone here use a KVM switch for GUI workstations?  I
 use the old
  manual switch boxes for my LRP machines because quality video
 needs are low.
  But I've been using a Belkin Omni-Cube 4-port for X/Linux and
 Windows boxes
  and am unsatisfied with the video degradation.  I'd appreciate
 any feedback
  on reasonably-priced KVM switches with decent video
 performance.  Thanks.

 I highly recommend Linksys KVM's -- for the money, there are none
 better, IMHO };-Þ

 http://www.linksys.com/products/group.asp?grid=15

 And, this is from somebody who's not likely to own anything else by
 Linksys ;

 We've used both the 2-port (PS2KVM2,
 http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=129grid=15) and
 4-port (PS2KVM4,
 http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=137grid=15) for
 several months.  Each can be had for well under $100, if you search
 aggressively.

 Very rarely have we seen any type of lockup -- usually, due to a
 connection kicked loose ;

 The only real gripe we have is, once in awhile, the cursor lags behind
 the mouse by a couple of milliseconds and you click; but, there's
 nothing quite there on which to click ;  This is not as bad as it may
 sound -- difficult situation to describe -- but, for some of us who fly
 around blindly, not always watching what we're doing on automatic pilot,
 it can be mildly frustrating.

 What do you think?

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Re: [Leaf-user] OT: KVM switches

2001-06-25 Thread Tom Eastep

On Monday 25 June 2001 08:52 pm, Morgan Reed wrote:
 Currently using the 2 port Linksys KVM, and I can not sing its praises
 enough. runs my 21 monitor with no degradation (that I can see)  at
 1024x728 75 Hz.  Monitor rates are one of the things that fall with cheap
 cables, and the Linksys cables seem to be pretty good.

 I picked mine up for $56.99 at MicroCenter in VA,  this was in the opened
 bin, the regular price was $65.



I'm using the Belkin Omni-View 4 with Belkin 6-foot cable sets here. I found 
that:

a) A system with an ATI Mach 4 on-board graphics adapter sucked when used 
through the KVM.
b) A second system (which I now use as my main Linux desktop) with a Matrox 
Millenium II AGP produces excellent results with the same cables!

-Tom
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