Re: [Leaf-user] How do you use the bootdisk.bin file???

2002-01-02 Thread Simon Bolduc

First if you aren't really familiar with making bootable CDs you can end up 
with a lot of coasters - so use a CDRW if you can... also you might wanna 
consider using a CD with floppy setup as it is by far the easier way to do 
things. that said:

You appear to be using windows so you can't really use the proper mkisofs 
command.  What I would personally recommend you do is use WinISO.  You will 
be able to copy your new modules from floppy to the CD image burn the new 
image and the CD will still be bootable.  That is the easiest way to do what 
you want.

The bootdisk.bin file is actually just a binary image of a floppy disk (with 
a boot sector and everything else).  If you wanted to change say how much 
system ram would be configured for the file system of the router you would 
have to edit a file contained within bootdisk.bin.  If you can get your 
router up and running without having to alter anything here then that is the 
way to go.  People who end up changing that particular value are usually 
running several packages that either extend the robustness of the router or 
help to monitor it.

S


From: Craig Caughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Leaf-user] How do you use the bootdisk.bin file???
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 14:18:32 -0800

Hi folks,
I'm trying to understand how to create my own bootable CD and some of you 
have been kind enough to respond. Charles relied to me by saying:

Create a new CD image using appropriate software...make sure you use the 
bootdisk.bin disk image to make the CD bootable.  The proper mkisofs 
command
is included in the CD-ROM readme.

I don't understand how to use the bootdisk.bin image with my Nero software 
to create the CD (I think Nero only recognizes .nrg, .iso, or .cue 
files...not .bin)??? He goes on to say:

WARNING:  If you need to change root.lrp, the kernel, or any syslinux 
settings (including root ramdisk size), you'll need to modify the 
bootdisk.bin floppy-disk image...it's a plain 1.44 Meg disk image, and can 
be manipulated with all the normal tools (dd, winiamge, rawrite, c).

What does he mean modify the bootdisk.bin image, and why would you want 
to or need to???

Thank you,
Craig








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Re: [Leaf-user] How do you use the bootdisk.bin file???

2002-01-02 Thread Etienne Charlier



Hi,

When you start NĂ©ro, select CD-ROM (Boot) in the 
wizard.
Y'll get a tab (Boot) where you can find a group 
called "Source of boot image file"
select "Image File" then browse the filesystem to 
select the "bootdisk.bin" file

Click the button "New"
Now, you can add file to yourCD 
layoutand burn it

Regards,
Etienne

- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Craig 
  Caughlin 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:18 
  PM
  Subject: [Leaf-user] How do you use the 
  bootdisk.bin file???
  
  Hi folks,
  I'm trying to understand how to create my own 
  bootable CD and some of you have been kind enough to respond. Charles relied 
  to me by saying:
  
  Create a new CD image using 
  appropriate software...make sure you use the bootdisk.bin disk image to make 
  the CD bootable. The proper mkisofs commandis included in the CD-ROM 
  readme.
  
  I don't understand how to use the 
  bootdisk.bin image with my Nero software to create the CD (I think Nero only 
  recognizes .nrg, .iso, or .cue files...not .bin)??? He goes on to say: 
  
  
  WARNING: If you need to 
  change root.lrp, the kernel, or any syslinux settings (including root ramdisk 
  size), you'll need to modify the bootdisk.bin floppy-disk image...it's a plain 
  1.44 Meg disk image, and can be manipulated with all the normal tools (dd, 
  winiamge, rawrite, c). 
  
  What does he mean "modify" the bootdisk.bin image, and why would 
  you want to or need to???
  
  Thank you,
  Craig
  
  


Re: [Leaf-user] How do you use the bootdisk.bin file???

2002-01-02 Thread speck

ACK!  HTML mail.  Please don't do that any more.

In NERO (I think) you need to go to
File\New
Scroll down to CD-ROM (Boot)
Browse to the bootdisk.bin

Essentially, bootable CD's use floppy boot technology to perform bootups. So the 
'bootable' floppy must be placed at the start of the CD Rom so that it knows it is 
bootable.

-sp


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Re: [Leaf-user] How do you use the bootdisk.bin file???

2002-01-02 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

 I'm trying to understand how to create my own bootable CD and some of you
have been kind enough to respond. Charles relied to me by saying:

  Create a new CD image using appropriate software...make sure you use the
bootdisk.bin disk image to make the CD bootable.  The proper mkisofs command
is included in the CD-ROM readme.

 I don't understand how to use the bootdisk.bin image with my Nero software
to create the CD (I think Nero only recognizes .nrg, .iso, or .cue
files...not .bin)??? He goes on to say:

Look through the Nero documentation on making a bootable CD.  One option for
bootable CD's is to use a floppy disk image...when you tell Nero to make
this sort of a bootable CD, there should be a way to specify the floppy-disk
image file to use.  Point Nero to the bootdisk.bin file for the bootable
floppy image, and you'll have a bootable CD-ROM.

  WARNING:  If you need to change root.lrp, the kernel, or any syslinux
settings (including root ramdisk size), you'll need to modify the
bootdisk.bin floppy-disk image...it's a plain 1.44 Meg disk image, and can
be manipulated with all the normal tools (dd, winiamge, rawrite, c).

 What does he mean modify the bootdisk.bin image, and why would you want
to or need to???

You only need to modify the bootdisk image if you're changing something
contained on it, which would include (as indicated) root.lrp, the kernel
itself, or the syslinux configuration.  The easiest way to alter the disk
image (on non-linux systems) is to make a floppy disk using the image file,
edit the floppy disk as required (ie update linux, root.lrp, and/or edit
syslinux.cfg), and then turn the floppy back into a disk image file.
Finally, use the new image file to make your CD bootable.

Charles Steinkuehler
http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)



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Re: [Leaf-user] How do you use the bootdisk.bin file???

2002-01-02 Thread Peter Jay Salzman

begin Craig Caughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Hi folks,
 I'm trying to understand how to create my own bootable CD and some of you have been 
kind enough to respond. Charles relied to me by saying:
 
 Create a new CD image using appropriate software...make sure you use the 
bootdisk.bin disk image to make the CD bootable.  The proper mkisofs command
 is included in the CD-ROM readme.
 
 I don't understand how to use the bootdisk.bin image with my Nero software to create 
the CD (I think Nero only recognizes .nrg, .iso, or .cue files...not .bin)??? He goes 
on to say: 
 
i think a little confusion is going on here.  if i'm not mistaken, nero
is a cd writer, yes?   there are two things you're going to create: a cd
and a floppy.

1. burn the CD iso image.   ie- make a copy of the cd.  use nero for that.
2. make a copy of a boot floppy.  i don't use windows (at all!), so i
   couldn't tell you how to do it from windows.  however, from linux, you
   want to do:

dd if=bootdisk.bin of=/dev/fd0

the file bootdisk.bin is, loosely, a raw copy of the floppy itself.
it's not an ISO image.

on the c0wz site, there's an excellent tutorial on boot floppies in
general.  it's thorough enough (imho) to be a definitive source on the
topic.  after you set up your router/firewall, you can play around with
creating your own bootfloppy with a larger format, like 1.680MB instead
of 1.44MB.

hopefully, i've said something here that sparked understanding.  if you
understood all this, you can follow the first few steps of the README
file on the dacherstein cd.

 WARNING:  If you need to change root.lrp, the kernel, or any syslinux settings 
(including root ramdisk size), you'll need to modify the bootdisk.bin floppy-disk 
image...it's a plain 1.44 Meg disk image, and can be manipulated with all the normal 
tools (dd, winiamge, rawrite, c). 
 
 What does he mean modify the bootdisk.bin image, and why would you want to or need 
to???
 
if you:

  1. if you create a larger capacity boot floppy (optional.  see above)
  2. want to play around with loading different modules (optional)

you need to modify the file syslinux.cfg and/or lrpkg.cfg (both are on
the boot floppy).  that's all i can really think of which is obvious.
it's up to you.  i don't think there's a pressing need to modify the
boot disk -- i think you can pretty much get by without modifying it.
however, the default list of packages may not be to your liking.  for
example, i can't live without tcpdump.   :)

in dachstein 1.0.1, you *had* to modify syslinux.cfg if the cdrom wasn't
/dev/hda.  in version 1.0.2 it, thankfully, detects the cdrom so you
don't have to do this anymore.

pete

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Re: [Leaf-user] How do you use the bootdisk.bin file???

2002-01-02 Thread Charles Steinkuehler

 in dachstein 1.0.1, you *had* to modify syslinux.cfg if the cdrom wasn't
 /dev/hda.  in version 1.0.2 it, thankfully, detects the cdrom so you
 don't have to do this anymore.

Actually, you had to modify pkgpath.cfg on your configuration floppy,
although you *could* modify the syslinux parameters on the CD, but doing so
was definately the *hard* way of solving the problem...this situation is
exactly why pkgpath.cfg support was added.

Using the new /dev/cdrom, however, is definately much easier...no mods
required at all!

Charles Steinkuehler
http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)



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