Re: [LU] LU: the ongoing fiasco

[Nick]

possibly the most sensible, clear-sighted post on this farce, so far.

On 3 Feb 2014, at 19:51, Chris Wright  wrote:

> 
> Sorry about the duplicate post earlier - I'm very sceptical about all parties 
> in this fiasco.
> 
> We're all up in arms about the Italians, but we know no facts, only spin that 
> is in the main being shaped by a future tory politician.
> 
> Some questions need answering : Who gave the Italians the impression they 
> were in charge on Friday? That had to be someone in the current management 
> team?
> 
> What exactly is the role of this solicitor that was thrown out of the stadium 
> this afternoon? He's not just the Cellino family solicitor, on the contrary, 
> he's a player in his own right - has been involved in all manner of football 
> related issues..what made him think he had the authority to sack McDermott? 
> Is there any truth in the suggestion that the existing owners wanted rid of 
> McDermott?
> 
> Is Festa really being lined up as manager? even Cellino has said that he 
> doesn't have the experience to manage a team - given that there were 
> allegedly 4 Italian players lined up to sign, it is credible that they would 
> need a familiar face around the place.
> 
> Is David Haigh even remotely competent? He brokered the deal with Ken Bates, 
> or so he claims, should he not have known about the £4m payment due this 
> month?
> 
> Do we really want ot go down the road of having two consortia, neither of 
> whom had enough money to match Cellino's offer, join together to buy the 
> club? What happens once they do? Where is the war chest for transfers? How do 
> they propose to sort out the cash flow issue? Where are the funds to cover 
> the cash flow until it is sorted out? How do they propose to pay back the 
> loans made to the club by Sports Capital - that looks like an absolute 
> minefield...?
> 
> My life experience tells me never to trust a politician. Especially a Tory. 
> My worst fear is we're being spun by a clown in the grip of a panic. One 
> credible scenario is that Cellino was told to go ahead and assume control, 
> and panic set in when it became clear that the crowd (source of income) and 
> the sponsors  (source of income) were having none of it. If I'm right, it 
> won't end well. God forbid we get a management team of ten or more people!
> 
> On the plus side - Saturday was magnificent with several players coming of 
> age. Ross McCormack has exhibited leadership qualities I didn't think he had 
> and Brian is back. Let's hope the players can keep the impetus going, we're 
> not all that far short of the play offs. 
> 
> Chris
> 
> 

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Re: [LU] The Independent hits the spot

[Torrey Gilday]

Instead of the Football League expending resources to investigate every
gent with a bit of cash and an ambition to have a football club as a
plaything, wouldn't it make more sense to try on some aspects of the German
model, ie supporters having majority stakes, etc??

I think the long and short of it is that foreign investors will always view
clubs as a means to turn a profit. Except that football clubs run as
profitable businesses off the pitch tend to fall short in trophies, while
trophy winning sides tend to have ledgerbooks full of red. Quite the
dilemma.


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Rick Duniec  wrote:

>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/ian-herbert-the-football-league-should-protect-clubs-from-attempted-takeovers-such-as-the-elland-road-hustle-which-left-leeds-a-laughing-stock-9105551.html
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Re: [LU] The Independent hits the spot

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

Really not sure about anything.
Apart from Haigh. He is 100% not OK.
As for the rest their truth, spin & lies. I just don't know which is what.
Ideally I think I'd like LUST to sit with Cellini and see his wallet. Then
McDermott to sit down with Cellini and see if there is a modus vivendi.
Sure, there is chaos. McDermott worked in that chaos. Can he work in an
organised, structured hierarchy?
Till now he's made a virtue of being loyal. And that is a virtue. But ---
he was also head cook & bottle washer. And he had an alarming run on the
field.
We need changes. One 5-1 hysteria fueled win means nowt. We need another 5
games to see the true picture.
The bottom line are these three questions:-
We need money - lots of it. --Cellini?
We need a coherent business plan -- Farnan?
We need correct and modular football management and coaching -- McDermott??



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On 4 February 2014 07:42, Ian Murray  wrote:

> Mikey - where do you stand on this (or any) issue? You seem to oscillate
> between been an extremist in both camps.
>
> Confused of Perth.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On 4 Feb 2014, at 13:34, "Dr Michael Benjamin"  wrote:
> >
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> > A hatchet job or the truth?
> >
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> >
> >> On 4 February 2014 02:58, Rick Duniec  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/ian-herbert-the-football-league-should-protect-clubs-from-attempted-takeovers-such-as-the-elland-road-hustle-which-left-leeds-a-laughing-stock-9105551.html
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Re: [LU] The Independent hits the spot

[Ian Murray]

Mikey - where do you stand on this (or any) issue? You seem to oscillate 
between been an extremist in both camps. 

Confused of Perth.

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> On 4 Feb 2014, at 13:34, "Dr Michael Benjamin"  wrote:
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> Jesus wept.
> A hatchet job or the truth?
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> 
>> On 4 February 2014 02:58, Rick Duniec  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/ian-herbert-the-football-league-should-protect-clubs-from-attempted-takeovers-such-as-the-elland-road-hustle-which-left-leeds-a-laughing-stock-9105551.html
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Re: [LU] The Independent hits the spot

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

Jesus wept.
A hatchet job or the truth?

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On 4 February 2014 02:58, Rick Duniec  wrote:

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[LU] The Independent hits the spot

[Rick Duniec]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/ian-herbert-the-football-league-should-protect-clubs-from-attempted-takeovers-such-as-the-elland-road-hustle-which-left-leeds-a-laughing-stock-9105551.html
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[LU] LU: The ongoing fiasco

[Michael Gardiner]

Spot on, Chris.  All of it.

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This has been an extraordinary and worrying 24 hours. Our club is apparently 
run by fools masquerading as businessmen. A view from afar.

David Haigh - prospective Tory MP. Most likely in this to raise his profile and 
ease his way into politics. Dropped the ball badly with Sports Capital. As 
inept as any of the other clowns running the country at the moment, so he'll 
fit right in. Sooner he goes the better.

Brian McDermott - A decent man treated appallingly badly. His biggest mistake 
was to get involved in the politics - professional suicide. Would have been 
better off playing a waiting game.

Festa - We have no facts, only rumours. Let's not let xenophobia get a grip, 
some of the anti Italian stuff has been embarrassing.

Cellino - Experienced, wealthy, autocratic and high handed, jumped the gun by 
sacking Brian, but once Brian had publicly backed the other consortium it was 
inevitable.

McCormack - Appears to have principles! Playing a captains hand - lets hope he 
can motivate the team this afternoon.

Simon Jordan - as somebody else has remarked - complete bell end.

Sky Sports - Pathetic. Never known for their lack of bias, the blatant attempt 
to whip up a market for Ross signals a new low.

My view is that this has been going on a lot longer than 24 hours and that the 
very public pronouncements made by Brian in the last few days have forced 
everybody's hand. We've only just seen the fallout. In the end The owners can 
sell to whoever they choose, it is their club. If during the course of ordinary 
business a link had been proposed with Cagliari, giving us access to Italian 
players, how many supporters would have opposed it? We've all been quick to 
deride some of the signings from the UK.

I'm a firm believer in times of crisis, in acting on facts. We really don't 
have the whole picture, so I hope there is no pitch invasion, no xenophobic 
chants this afternoon and that people get behind the team. Plenty of time to be 
judgemental once a few of the facts emerge.


Chris Wright

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Re: [LU] LU: the ongoing fiasco

[Jeremy Adams]

Christ, if Haigh has a Monet he can definitely afford to buy the club! 

>From Dr. Mike
>But the Monet was coming from Haigh and his consorts.

Coat on,
Jeremy
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Re: [LU] Brian - presser online

[Andy Pyzer]

regardless of his future and I appreciate his comments are very much edited I 
am sure by lawyers etc. I would love to get brian mcd over for an after dinner 
speakers event to find out what has really gone on - I loved his honesty in his 
press conference and loved yer comments both Chris's.
 
The reality is our performances have been very poor and this latest result 
aside by half time could have been much worse. is this the turn of luck we need 
this season? tried to tot up points lost in last 8 games and even with a few 
draws and a win or two we would be play off.. and lets face it we aren't even 
that good this year.
 
my palace mate just posted another point... interesting times at ER and lets 
hope it turns out nice again... I still think my Soap reference 
works here though more twisty than a twisty turny thing..
 
MOT 
 
  
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Re: [LU] LU: the ongoing fiasco

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

Again I completely agree with every word.
Add to that who blocked the Barnes transfer. The bank doesn't own the club.
It has shares. But the Monet was coming from Haigh and his consorts.
Flowers and Haigh broke ranks. Why?
Far too many smoke and mirrors.
What I don't like about Cellini is that he was suckered and made to look
bloody stupid. In fact I wonder if that makes him more determined or make
him walk away.
On 3 Feb 2014 21:51, "Chris Wright"  wrote:

>
> Sorry about the duplicate post earlier - I'm very sceptical about all
> parties in this fiasco.
>
> We're all up in arms about the Italians, but we know no facts, only spin
> that is in the main being shaped by a future tory politician.
>
> Some questions need answering : Who gave the Italians the impression they
> were in charge on Friday? That had to be someone in the current management
> team?
>
> What exactly is the role of this solicitor that was thrown out of the
> stadium this afternoon? He's not just the Cellino family solicitor, on the
> contrary, he's a player in his own right - has been involved in all manner
> of football related issues..what made him think he had the authority to
> sack McDermott? Is there any truth in the suggestion that the existing
> owners wanted rid of McDermott?
>
> Is Festa really being lined up as manager? even Cellino has said that he
> doesn't have the experience to manage a team - given that there were
> allegedly 4 Italian players lined up to sign, it is credible that they
> would need a familiar face around the place.
>
> Is David Haigh even remotely competent? He brokered the deal with Ken
> Bates, or so he claims, should he not have known about the £4m payment due
> this month?
>
> Do we really want ot go down the road of having two consortia, neither of
> whom had enough money to match Cellino's offer, join together to buy the
> club? What happens once they do? Where is the war chest for transfers? How
> do they propose to sort out the cash flow issue? Where are the funds to
> cover the cash flow until it is sorted out? How do they propose to pay back
> the loans made to the club by Sports Capital - that looks like an absolute
> minefield...?
>
> My life experience tells me never to trust a politician. Especially a
> Tory. My worst fear is we're being spun by a clown in the grip of a panic.
> One credible scenario is that Cellino was told to go ahead and assume
> control, and panic set in when it became clear that the crowd (source of
> income) and the sponsors  (source of income) were having none of it. If I'm
> right, it won't end well. God forbid we get a management team of ten or
> more people!
>
> On the plus side - Saturday was magnificent with several players coming of
> age. Ross McCormack has exhibited leadership qualities I didn't think he
> had and Brian is back. Let's hope the players can keep the impetus going,
> we're not all that far short of the play offs.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LU] Brian - presser online

[Chris Briggs]

You're right nothing is won in February, the problem is we didn't win anything 
in January, the rate we have been picking up points (10 out of 36 or 
thereabouts) means that we are unlikely to win anything in May,
Reading on the other hand collected 19 points over the same period making the 
chances of us taking their place in 6th unlikely. 

I think huddersfield would have turned us over on Saturday had Friday just been 
another day at the office.

I'm not in favour of sacking McD but I can see these perverse logic in it.

As I said from a PR perspective, however it turns out, he will come out 
smelling of roses.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Feb 2014, at 19:47, "Jim Moran"  wrote:
> 
> We're 8 points off the playoffs, it's the beginning of February. You win 
> nothing in February. Despite recent form, sacking him would have been the 
> most ridiculous decision we'd made in recent years, and there's been some 
> howlers.  
> 
> --
> 
>> On 3 Feb 2014, at 19:40, Chris Briggs  wrote:
>> 
>> BMcD has come out of this very well, he had been in a long run of piss poor 
>> performances/results, had Friday's events not happened he would have been 
>> due the sack on Saturday had they lost (not that GFH would have had the 
>> bollocks to sack him, nor the cash to pay him off).
>> If the take over happens this week and Brian is out on his arse nobody will 
>> remember the slide down the league but the fiasco on Friday.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 3 Feb 2014, at 19:31, "Richard Walker"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I really have yet to be convinced about BMD's ability to take us into the 
>>> PL however there can be no doubt that this guy is pure class and has my 
>>> complete and utter respect.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On 3 Feb 2014, at 13:52, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
 
 Here is a link to Brians conference for those on the list who are more 
 concerned with the manager of Leeds United than old US sitcoms - :-))
 
 https://audioboo.fm/boos/1894762-brian-mcdermott-press-conference-3rd-feb-lufc
 
 
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[LU] LU: the ongoing fiasco

[Chris Wright]

Sorry about the duplicate post earlier - I'm very sceptical about all parties 
in this fiasco.

We're all up in arms about the Italians, but we know no facts, only spin that 
is in the main being shaped by a future tory politician.

Some questions need answering : Who gave the Italians the impression they were 
in charge on Friday? That had to be someone in the current management team?

What exactly is the role of this solicitor that was thrown out of the stadium 
this afternoon? He's not just the Cellino family solicitor, on the contrary, 
he's a player in his own right - has been involved in all manner of football 
related issues..what made him think he had the authority to sack McDermott? Is 
there any truth in the suggestion that the existing owners wanted rid of 
McDermott?

Is Festa really being lined up as manager? even Cellino has said that he 
doesn't have the experience to manage a team - given that there were allegedly 
4 Italian players lined up to sign, it is credible that they would need a 
familiar face around the place.

Is David Haigh even remotely competent? He brokered the deal with Ken Bates, or 
so he claims, should he not have known about the £4m payment due this month?

Do we really want ot go down the road of having two consortia, neither of whom 
had enough money to match Cellino's offer, join together to buy the club? What 
happens once they do? Where is the war chest for transfers? How do they propose 
to sort out the cash flow issue? Where are the funds to cover the cash flow 
until it is sorted out? How do they propose to pay back the loans made to the 
club by Sports Capital - that looks like an absolute minefield...?

My life experience tells me never to trust a politician. Especially a Tory. My 
worst fear is we're being spun by a clown in the grip of a panic. One credible 
scenario is that Cellino was told to go ahead and assume control, and panic set 
in when it became clear that the crowd (source of income) and the sponsors  
(source of income) were having none of it. If I'm right, it won't end well. God 
forbid we get a management team of ten or more people!

On the plus side - Saturday was magnificent with several players coming of age. 
Ross McCormack has exhibited leadership qualities I didn't think he had and 
Brian is back. Let's hope the players can keep the impetus going, we're not all 
that far short of the play offs. 

Chris


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Re: [LU] Brian - presser online

[Jim Moran]

We're 8 points off the playoffs, it's the beginning of February. You win 
nothing in February. Despite recent form, sacking him would have been the most 
ridiculous decision we'd made in recent years, and there's been some howlers.  

--

> On 3 Feb 2014, at 19:40, Chris Briggs  wrote:
> 
> BMcD has come out of this very well, he had been in a long run of piss poor 
> performances/results, had Friday's events not happened he would have been due 
> the sack on Saturday had they lost (not that GFH would have had the bollocks 
> to sack him, nor the cash to pay him off).
> If the take over happens this week and Brian is out on his arse nobody will 
> remember the slide down the league but the fiasco on Friday.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 3 Feb 2014, at 19:31, "Richard Walker"  wrote:
>> 
>> I really have yet to be convinced about BMD's ability to take us into the PL 
>> however there can be no doubt that this guy is pure class and has my 
>> complete and utter respect.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 3 Feb 2014, at 13:52, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here is a link to Brians conference for those on the list who are more 
>>> concerned with the manager of Leeds United than old US sitcoms - :-))
>>> 
>>> https://audioboo.fm/boos/1894762-brian-mcdermott-press-conference-3rd-feb-lufc
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [LU] Brian - presser online

[Chris Briggs]

BMcD has come out of this very well, he had been in a long run of piss poor 
performances/results, had Friday's events not happened he would have been due 
the sack on Saturday had they lost (not that GFH would have had the bollocks to 
sack him, nor the cash to pay him off).
If the take over happens this week and Brian is out on his arse nobody will 
remember the slide down the league but the fiasco on Friday.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Feb 2014, at 19:31, "Richard Walker"  wrote:
> 
> I really have yet to be convinced about BMD's ability to take us into the PL 
> however there can be no doubt that this guy is pure class and has my complete 
> and utter respect.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 3 Feb 2014, at 13:52, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>> 
>> Here is a link to Brians conference for those on the list who are more 
>> concerned with the manager of Leeds United than old US sitcoms - :-))
>> 
>> https://audioboo.fm/boos/1894762-brian-mcdermott-press-conference-3rd-feb-lufc
>> 
>> 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Jim Moran]

If Cellino takes over, I'm not coming back until he's gone. I would rather have 
a well run championship side than another f*cking crook.

--

> On 3 Feb 2014, at 19:26, Chris Briggs  wrote:
> 
> I'm starting to believe that we would be better off without him, he has come 
> across as naive and a bit clueless since last week.
> 
> Not sure I could trust him to find his own arsehole with map and both hands.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 3 Feb 2014, at 19:21, seanscr...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> Tim,
>> 
>> I have to say that this has been puzzling me as well. 
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> Sean
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: tim.whelan 
>> To: matt ; MIB ; Nigel Barber 
>> 
>> Cc: Leeds List 
>> Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 1:04 pm
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
>> 
>> 
>> The one thing that doesn't quite make sense is that Haigh is a senior 
>> employee 
>> of GFH and was involved in their buyout from Bates.
>> So whatever it was that Sport Capital discovered during due diligence should 
>> have been something he already knew about, and shouldn't have come as a 
>> surprise 
>> to a consortium he was involved with.
>> 
>> Tim W.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: "m...@leeds-united.net" 
>> To: m...@myray.com; Nigel Barber  
>> Cc: Leeds List  
>> Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014, 15:07
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
>> 
>> 
>> My guess is that its to do with due diligence. GFH have made a loss the 
>> haigh 
>> group couldn't get the backing as sums didn't add up. 
>> 
>> If you were buying a house and you found a problem that meant your mortgage 
>> company wouldn't lend you the full amount you couldn't proceed unless they 
>> dropped the price or you risked your own funds.
>> 
>> I don't necessarily blame Haigh as such in all this.
>> 
>> Others will know more but that's my take from press/twitter etc... 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dr Michael Benjamin 
>> Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:58:06 
>> To: Nigel Barber
>> Reply-To: m...@myray.com
>> Cc: LEEDSLIST
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
>> 
>> I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
>> barely understand.
>> Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
>> is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
>> Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
>> We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
>> basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
>> piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
>> Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
>> and white.
>> I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
>> manipulated.
>> 
>> Dr Michael Benjamin,
>> Community Psychiatrist
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>> 
>>> On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is this a beauty contest?
>>> 
>>> The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
>>> was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.
>>> 
>>> So many closed minds.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 
 Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough
 
 
 
> On 03 February 2014 at 12:46 John Lee 
>>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26006243
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Re: [LU] LU: The ongoing fiasco

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

Great post
Add to that the new morsel: The Foran group's backer is a L'Pool spiv who
past is far more unsavory than Cellini.
The never story

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On 3 February 2014 21:27, Chris Wright  wrote:

>
> This has been an extraordinary and worrying 24 hours. Our club is
> apparently run by fools masquerading as businessmen. A view from afar.
>
> David Haigh - prospective Tory MP. Most likely in this to raise his
> profile and ease his way into politics. Dropped the ball badly with Sports
> Capital. As inept as any of the other clowns running the country at the
> moment, so he'll fit right in. Sooner he goes the better.
>
> Brian McDermott - A decent man treated appallingly badly. His biggest
> mistake was to get involved in the politics - professional suicide. Would
> have been better off playing a waiting game.
>
> Festa - We have no facts, only rumours. Let's not let xenophobia get a
> grip, some of the anti Italian stuff has been embarrassing.
>
> Cellino - Experienced, wealthy, autocratic and high handed, jumped the gun
> by sacking Brian, but once Brian had publicly backed the other consortium
> it was inevitable.
>
> McCormack - Appears to have principles! Playing a captains hand - lets
> hope he can motivate the team this afternoon.
>
> Simon Jordan - as somebody else has remarked - complete bell end.
>
> Sky Sports - Pathetic. Never known for their lack of bias, the blatant
> attempt to whip up a market for Ross signals a new low.
>
> My view is that this has been going on a lot longer than 24 hours and that
> the very public pronouncements made by Brian in the last few days have
> forced everybody's hand. We've only just seen the fallout. In the end The
> owners can sell to whoever they choose, it is their club. If during the
> course of ordinary business a link had been proposed with Cagliari, giving
> us access to Italian players, how many supporters would have opposed it?
> We've all been quick to deride some of the signings from the UK.
>
> I'm a firm believer in times of crisis, in acting on facts. We really
> don't have the whole picture, so I hope there is no pitch invasion, no
> xenophobic chants this afternoon and that people get behind the team.
> Plenty of time to be judgemental once a few of the facts emerge.
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LU] Brian - presser online

[Mark]

> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
> I really have yet to be 
convinced about BMD's ability to take us into the PL however there can 
be no doubt that this guy is pure class and has my complete and utter 
respect.

I agree on both points.
Cheers
Mark 
El Presidente Wisconsin Whites 
Leeds United 
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Re: [LU] Brian - presser online

[Richard Walker]

I really have yet to be convinced about BMD's ability to take us into the PL 
however there can be no doubt that this guy is pure class and has my complete 
and utter respect.

Sent from my iPad

> On 3 Feb 2014, at 13:52, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> 
> Here is a link to Brians conference for those on the list who are more 
> concerned with the manager of Leeds United than old US sitcoms - :-))
> 
> https://audioboo.fm/boos/1894762-brian-mcdermott-press-conference-3rd-feb-lufc
> 
> 
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[LU] LU: The ongoing fiasco

[Chris Wright]

This has been an extraordinary and worrying 24 hours. Our club is apparently 
run by fools masquerading as businessmen. A view from afar.

David Haigh - prospective Tory MP. Most likely in this to raise his profile and 
ease his way into politics. Dropped the ball badly with Sports Capital. As 
inept as any of the other clowns running the country at the moment, so he'll 
fit right in. Sooner he goes the better.

Brian McDermott - A decent man treated appallingly badly. His biggest mistake 
was to get involved in the politics - professional suicide. Would have been 
better off playing a waiting game.

Festa - We have no facts, only rumours. Let's not let xenophobia get a grip, 
some of the anti Italian stuff has been embarrassing.

Cellino - Experienced, wealthy, autocratic and high handed, jumped the gun by 
sacking Brian, but once Brian had publicly backed the other consortium it was 
inevitable.

McCormack - Appears to have principles! Playing a captains hand - lets hope he 
can motivate the team this afternoon.

Simon Jordan - as somebody else has remarked - complete bell end.

Sky Sports - Pathetic. Never known for their lack of bias, the blatant attempt 
to whip up a market for Ross signals a new low.

My view is that this has been going on a lot longer than 24 hours and that the 
very public pronouncements made by Brian in the last few days have forced 
everybody's hand. We've only just seen the fallout. In the end The owners can 
sell to whoever they choose, it is their club. If during the course of ordinary 
business a link had been proposed with Cagliari, giving us access to Italian 
players, how many supporters would have opposed it? We've all been quick to 
deride some of the signings from the UK.

I'm a firm believer in times of crisis, in acting on facts. We really don't 
have the whole picture, so I hope there is no pitch invasion, no xenophobic 
chants this afternoon and that people get behind the team. Plenty of time to be 
judgemental once a few of the facts emerge.


Chris Wright







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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Chris Briggs]

I'm starting to believe that we would be better off without him, he has come 
across as naive and a bit clueless since last week.

Not sure I could trust him to find his own arsehole with map and both hands.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Feb 2014, at 19:21, seanscr...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> 
> I have to say that this has been puzzling me as well. 
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: tim.whelan 
> To: matt ; MIB ; Nigel Barber 
> 
> Cc: Leeds List 
> Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 1:04 pm
> Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
> 
> 
> The one thing that doesn't quite make sense is that Haigh is a senior 
> employee 
> of GFH and was involved in their buyout from Bates.
> So whatever it was that Sport Capital discovered during due diligence should 
> have been something he already knew about, and shouldn't have come as a 
> surprise 
> to a consortium he was involved with.
> 
> Tim W.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "m...@leeds-united.net" 
> To: m...@myray.com; Nigel Barber  
> Cc: Leeds List  
> Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014, 15:07
> Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
> 
> 
> My guess is that its to do with due diligence. GFH have made a loss the haigh 
> group couldn't get the backing as sums didn't add up. 
> 
> If you were buying a house and you found a problem that meant your mortgage 
> company wouldn't lend you the full amount you couldn't proceed unless they 
> dropped the price or you risked your own funds.
> 
> I don't necessarily blame Haigh as such in all this.
> 
> Others will know more but that's my take from press/twitter etc... 
> 
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dr Michael Benjamin 
> Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:58:06 
> To: Nigel Barber
> Reply-To: m...@myray.com
> Cc: LEEDSLIST
> Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
> 
> I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
> barely understand.
> Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
> is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
> Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
> We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
> basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
> piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
> Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
> and white.
> I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
> manipulated.
> 
> Dr Michael Benjamin,
> Community Psychiatrist
> ---
> myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT
> http://www.myRay.com
> http://www.myRay.org
> --
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> http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
>> On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber  wrote:
>> 
>> Is this a beauty contest?
>> 
>> The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
>> was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.
>> 
>> So many closed minds.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 03 February 2014 at 12:46 John Lee 
>> wrote:
 
 
 
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26006243
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[seanscribe]

Tim,

I have to say that this has been puzzling me as well. 

Cheers!

Sean

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: tim.whelan 
To: matt ; MIB ; Nigel Barber 

Cc: Leeds List 
Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 1:04 pm
Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!


The one thing that doesn't quite make sense is that Haigh is a senior employee 
of GFH and was involved in their buyout from Bates.
So whatever it was that Sport Capital discovered during due diligence should 
have been something he already knew about, and shouldn't have come as a 
surprise 
to a consortium he was involved with.

Tim W.





 From: "m...@leeds-united.net" 
To: m...@myray.com; Nigel Barber  
Cc: Leeds List  
Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014, 15:07
Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
 

My guess is that its to do with due diligence. GFH have made a loss the haigh 
group couldn't get the backing as sums didn't add up. 

If you were buying a house and you found a problem that meant your mortgage 
company wouldn't lend you the full amount you couldn't proceed unless they 
dropped the price or you risked your own funds.

I don't necessarily blame Haigh as such in all this.

Others will know more but that's my take from press/twitter etc... 


Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

-Original Message-
From: Dr Michael Benjamin 
Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:58:06 
To: Nigel Barber
Reply-To: m...@myray.com
Cc: LEEDSLIST
Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
barely understand.
Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
and white.
I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
manipulated.

Dr Michael Benjamin,
Community Psychiatrist
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On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber  wrote:

> Is this a beauty contest?
>
> The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
> was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.
>
> So many closed minds.
>
>
>
> On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 03 February 2014 at 12:46 John Lee 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26006243
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[LU] "To 'ell with Man United"

[Robert Heath]

I don't think it is sung any more, but did not the old song about "we will
fight fight fight for United until we win the Football League" include the
line "from the northern shores of Scotland to the shores of Sicily"?
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[tim . whelan]

The one thing that doesn't quite make sense is that Haigh is a senior employee 
of GFH and was involved in their buyout from Bates.
So whatever it was that Sport Capital discovered during due diligence should 
have been something he already knew about, and shouldn't have come as a 
surprise to a consortium he was involved with.

Tim W.





 From: "m...@leeds-united.net" 
To: m...@myray.com; Nigel Barber  
Cc: Leeds List  
Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014, 15:07
Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
 

My guess is that its to do with due diligence. GFH have made a loss the haigh 
group couldn't get the backing as sums didn't add up. 

If you were buying a house and you found a problem that meant your mortgage 
company wouldn't lend you the full amount you couldn't proceed unless they 
dropped the price or you risked your own funds.

I don't necessarily blame Haigh as such in all this.

Others will know more but that's my take from press/twitter etc... 


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I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
barely understand.
Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
and white.
I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
manipulated.

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On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber  wrote:

> Is this a beauty contest?
>
> The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
> was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.
>
> So many closed minds.
>
>
>
> On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 03 February 2014 at 12:46 John Lee 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Chris Briggs]

I've decided that I don't care anymore, my daughter has introduced me to 
something more addictive that football.

Flappy Birds on iPad/iPhone.

I might be gone a while, need to beat 26!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Feb 2014, at 16:04, "David W"  wrote:
> 
> Interestingly enough, the same chap who helped QPR avoid a point deduction
> the other year (when a hefty deduction could have got us into the
> play-offs).
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Ian Murray wrote:
> 
>> The guy who's such a good lawyer he didn't realise that one needs to
>> actually own the company before one can start sacking people. Manc prick.
>> (sorry Dave N!).
>> 
>> I really hope he has been escorted out. Where's this from?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 3 Feb 2014, at 23:49, "Ciaran Diver"  wrote:
>> 
 From: Dr Michael Benjamin 
 I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
 manipulated.
>>> 
>>> I'd say it's just wind Michael - been on the garlic for lunch?
>>> 
>>> Latest news is that the Farnan/Flowers consortium are meeting GFH
>> tomorrow
>>> and that the Cellion lawyer has been escorted out of Elland Rd! Proper
>>> order.
>>> 
>>> Dave W, count me very much in Camp 2
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[David W]

Interestingly enough, the same chap who helped QPR avoid a point deduction
the other year (when a hefty deduction could have got us into the
play-offs).


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Ian Murray wrote:

> The guy who's such a good lawyer he didn't realise that one needs to
> actually own the company before one can start sacking people. Manc prick.
> (sorry Dave N!).
>
> I really hope he has been escorted out. Where's this from?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 3 Feb 2014, at 23:49, "Ciaran Diver"  wrote:
>
> >> From: Dr Michael Benjamin 
> >> I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
> >> manipulated.
> >
> > I'd say it's just wind Michael - been on the garlic for lunch?
> >
> > Latest news is that the Farnan/Flowers consortium are meeting GFH
> tomorrow
> > and that the Cellion lawyer has been escorted out of Elland Rd! Proper
> > order.
> >
> > Dave W, count me very much in Camp 2
> >
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Ciaran Diver]

Adam Pope and Phil Hay both reporting it on twitter Ian, see below.

Adam Pope @APOPEY44m
#lufc Farnell shown off the premises by  Haigh, Patel & security staff &
understood not to return unless a deal is completed with Cellino.
Adam Pope @APOPEY46m
#lufc It is my understanding that Chris Farnell, the lawyer acting for
Massimo Cellino,has been asked to leave the Elland Road offices today
Phil Hay @PhilHayYEP52m
Apparently, he was shown out of Elland Road by Haigh, Patel and security
staff. Cellino bid seems to be sinking.
Phil Hay @PhilHayYEP53m
Farnell is understood to have been at Elland Road pending the completion of
Cellino's deal. Deal hasn't been done. #lufc


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Ian Murray wrote:

> The guy who's such a good lawyer he didn't realise that one needs to
> actually own the company before one can start sacking people. Manc prick.
> (sorry Dave N!).
>
> I really hope he has been escorted out. Where's this from?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 3 Feb 2014, at 23:49, "Ciaran Diver"  wrote:
>
> >> From: Dr Michael Benjamin 
> >> I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
> >> manipulated.
> >
> > I'd say it's just wind Michael - been on the garlic for lunch?
> >
> > Latest news is that the Farnan/Flowers consortium are meeting GFH
> tomorrow
> > and that the Cellion lawyer has been escorted out of Elland Rd! Proper
> > order.
> >
> > Dave W, count me very much in Camp 2
> >
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Ian Murray]

The guy who's such a good lawyer he didn't realise that one needs to actually 
own the company before one can start sacking people. Manc prick. (sorry Dave 
N!). 

I really hope he has been escorted out. Where's this from?

Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Feb 2014, at 23:49, "Ciaran Diver"  wrote:

>> From: Dr Michael Benjamin 
>> I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
>> manipulated.
> 
> I'd say it's just wind Michael - been on the garlic for lunch?
> 
> Latest news is that the Farnan/Flowers consortium are meeting GFH tomorrow
> and that the Cellion lawyer has been escorted out of Elland Rd! Proper
> order.
> 
> Dave W, count me very much in Camp 2
> 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Ciaran Diver]

>From: Dr Michael Benjamin 
>I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
>manipulated.

I'd say it's just wind Michael - been on the garlic for lunch?

Latest news is that the Farnan/Flowers consortium are meeting GFH tomorrow
and that the Cellion lawyer has been escorted out of Elland Rd! Proper
order.

Dave W, count me very much in Camp 2

Ciaran
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Ian Murray]

Oo mince

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Feb 2014, at 23:36, "Brendan Osborne"  wrote:
> 
> Oe Missus!! Strictly hetro me!! :-)
> 
> 
> Ossie
> 
> > From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
> > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 23:32:16 +0800
> > To: davidwool...@gmail.com
> > CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
> > 
> > That's actually quite well put.
> > 
> > I would classify myself as camp 2. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Brendan Osborne]

Oe Missus!! Strictly hetro me!! :-)

Ossie

> From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 23:32:16 +0800
> To: davidwool...@gmail.com
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
> 
> That's actually quite well put.
> 
> I would classify myself as camp 2. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

  
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[n...@6haroldplace.co.uk]

There was no value judgement in what I said - just that he resembled somebody
else - not whether that was a good, bad or indifferent thing.


as to the rest of it, well time will tell of course, but he has a criminal
record, that at least seems relevant to his proposed take over at Leeds (by that
I mean it is not parking tickets), ie. embezzlement.

Fans standing outside holding a vigil - so what - some Leeds fans would have
doen the same for Woodgate, Bowyer et al doesn't mean the person is innocent or
even a laudible individual who is misunderstood - in this context I would argue
it means that some idiots put their club above everything else, right or wrong.

You know there was ructions when Pistol Pete wanted to move us to Stourton - god
knows how a move to Aberdeen or Plymouth would go down...and as for the
managerial merry go round - yes, let's keep that up because 10 or so manager in
the last 10 years has worked a treat for us so far hasn't it?


> On 03 February 2014 at 14:19 Nigel Barber  wrote:
> 
>  Is this a beauty contest?
> 
>  The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he was
> in stir. That speaks volumes to me.
> 
>  So many closed minds.
> 
> 
> 
>  On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
>    > wrote:
>> >Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge
>> > Gainsbrough
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On 03 February 2014 at 12:46 John Lee < bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Ian Murray]

That's actually quite well put.

I would classify myself as camp 2. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Feb 2014, at 23:29, "David W"  wrote:
> 
> I don't necessarily attach much blame to anyone for the Sport Capital deal
> failing - these things happen, and the new information that caused Sport
> Capital to reduce their bid (whether the realisation of the ongoing monthly
> losses (it would surprise me if they hadn't already known this) or some
> other nasty little contingent liability, is one of those things. They were
> within their rights to try and adjust their bid to reflect the change, GFH
> were within their rights to say the deal doesn't work at the revised
> figure. Unfortunate but life.
> 
> However, the goings on during Friday and the perfect storm of lunacy that
> came together with GFH apparently (for reasons that may come to light after
> this storm has settled) desperate to conclude a deal as a matter of urgency
> and Cellino desperate to get in control, and coming to a head on transfer
> deadline day, makes Cellino and GFH look inept and opportunistic.
> 
> GFH basically abandoned ship and left a quite extraordinary management
> vacuum on one of the club's most important days in years. All of that mob
> have to take accountability for that.
> 
> Cellino was guilty of crass corporate management (trying to shoe horn his
> man in and getting McD out before he'd even bought the club) that does
> little to reassure anyone that he has learnt the errors of his ways given
> his past convictions.
> 
> I don't buy the argument that Cellino can be a good thing, just because he
> will be a new broom, take no shit bloke with lots of cash. If Bates had got
> 200m behind him, would that have made everything about his reign ok? No,
> because he would sitll have been a graceless, thuggish oaf that dragged our
> club's name through the mud, acted solely for himself and sowed division at
> every turn as a way of maintaining control. We don't need that again.
> 
> We're all wearied by the last decade or so at Leeds. I suppose it comes
> down to whether your attitude is now:
> 
> Camp 1 - I'm just sick of us being rubbish and second tier. I want quality,
> I want drive and I want promotion. Just give me that and I'm happy. It's
> not nice guys that matter, it's success.
> 
> Camp 2 - I'm just sick of the off-field division, shennanigans, succession
> of people taking from our club, but giving little. I just crave stability,
> normality and unity. To ensure our football club is Leeds UNITED, at
> whatever level that is, without feeling our soul is being eroded with each
> passing year.
> 
> I'm a Camp 2 fan. But I'm not saying Camp 1 is wrong, and I fully
> understand it.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> David
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:07 PM,  wrote:
>> 
>> My guess is that its to do with due diligence. GFH have made a loss the
>> haigh group couldn't get the backing as sums didn't add up.
>> 
>> If you were buying a house and you found a problem that meant your
>> mortgage company wouldn't lend you the full amount you couldn't proceed
>> unless they dropped the price or you risked your own funds.
>> 
>> I don't necessarily blame Haigh as such in all this.
>> 
>> Others will know more but that's my take from press/twitter etc...
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
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>> -Original Message-
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>> To: Nigel Barber
>> Reply-To: m...@myray.com
>> Cc: LEEDSLIST
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
>> 
>> I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
>> barely understand.
>> Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
>> is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
>> Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
>> We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
>> basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
>> piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
>> Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
>> and white.
>> I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
>> manipulated.
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is this a beauty contest?
>>> 
>>> The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
>>> was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.
>>> 
>>> So many closed minds.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3 Feb

Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[David W]

I don't necessarily attach much blame to anyone for the Sport Capital deal
failing - these things happen, and the new information that caused Sport
Capital to reduce their bid (whether the realisation of the ongoing monthly
losses (it would surprise me if they hadn't already known this) or some
other nasty little contingent liability, is one of those things. They were
within their rights to try and adjust their bid to reflect the change, GFH
were within their rights to say the deal doesn't work at the revised
figure. Unfortunate but life.

However, the goings on during Friday and the perfect storm of lunacy that
came together with GFH apparently (for reasons that may come to light after
this storm has settled) desperate to conclude a deal as a matter of urgency
and Cellino desperate to get in control, and coming to a head on transfer
deadline day, makes Cellino and GFH look inept and opportunistic.

GFH basically abandoned ship and left a quite extraordinary management
vacuum on one of the club's most important days in years. All of that mob
have to take accountability for that.

Cellino was guilty of crass corporate management (trying to shoe horn his
man in and getting McD out before he'd even bought the club) that does
little to reassure anyone that he has learnt the errors of his ways given
his past convictions.

I don't buy the argument that Cellino can be a good thing, just because he
will be a new broom, take no shit bloke with lots of cash. If Bates had got
200m behind him, would that have made everything about his reign ok? No,
because he would sitll have been a graceless, thuggish oaf that dragged our
club's name through the mud, acted solely for himself and sowed division at
every turn as a way of maintaining control. We don't need that again.

We're all wearied by the last decade or so at Leeds. I suppose it comes
down to whether your attitude is now:

Camp 1 - I'm just sick of us being rubbish and second tier. I want quality,
I want drive and I want promotion. Just give me that and I'm happy. It's
not nice guys that matter, it's success.

Camp 2 - I'm just sick of the off-field division, shennanigans, succession
of people taking from our club, but giving little. I just crave stability,
normality and unity. To ensure our football club is Leeds UNITED, at
whatever level that is, without feeling our soul is being eroded with each
passing year.

I'm a Camp 2 fan. But I'm not saying Camp 1 is wrong, and I fully
understand it.

Cheers,

David


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:07 PM,  wrote:

> My guess is that its to do with due diligence. GFH have made a loss the
> haigh group couldn't get the backing as sums didn't add up.
>
> If you were buying a house and you found a problem that meant your
> mortgage company wouldn't lend you the full amount you couldn't proceed
> unless they dropped the price or you risked your own funds.
>
> I don't necessarily blame Haigh as such in all this.
>
> Others will know more but that's my take from press/twitter etc...
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dr Michael Benjamin 
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> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:58:06
> To: Nigel Barber
> Reply-To: m...@myray.com
> Cc: LEEDSLIST
> Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
>
> I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
> barely understand.
> Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
> is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
> Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
> We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
> basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
> piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
> Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
> and white.
> I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
> manipulated.
>
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> On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber  wrote:
>
> > Is this a beauty contest?
> >
> > The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
> > was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.
> >
> > So many closed minds.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge
> Gainsbrough
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 03 February 2014 at 12:46 John Lee 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26006243
> > > > ___

Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[matt]

My guess is that its to do with due diligence. GFH have made a loss the haigh 
group couldn't get the backing as sums didn't add up. 

If you were buying a house and you found a problem that meant your mortgage 
company wouldn't lend you the full amount you couldn't proceed unless they 
dropped the price or you risked your own funds.

I don't necessarily blame Haigh as such in all this.

Others will know more but that's my take from press/twitter etc... 


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Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
barely understand.
Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
and white.
I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
manipulated.

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On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber  wrote:

> Is this a beauty contest?
>
> The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
> was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.
>
> So many closed minds.
>
>
>
> On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 03 February 2014 at 12:46 John Lee 
> wrote:
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Paul Cundell]

On 3 Feb 2014 14:58, "Dr Michael Benjamin"  wrote:
>

> I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
> manipulated.
>

Of course these are the same guts that insisted BMc should have been sacked
on Saturday morning though Mike
Cheers
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Re: [LU] Hay at YP's view of what's happened...

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

Does it. And why?


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On 3 February 2014 14:21, Richard Naef wrote:

> http://bit.ly/MRm8e5
>
>
>
> still doesn't make any more sense and even less reason to consider the tax
> dodgy italian anything more than a swarthy Bates.
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
barely understand.
Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
and white.
I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
manipulated.

Dr Michael Benjamin,
Community Psychiatrist
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On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber  wrote:

> Is this a beauty contest?
>
> The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
> was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.
>
> So many closed minds.
>
>
>
> On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 03 February 2014 at 12:46 John Lee 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [LU] Brian - presser online

[Nicholas Armit]

Cheers was a good one too.



 From: "nat...@sky.com" 
To: leeds list  
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 8:52 AM
Subject: [LU] Brian - presser online
 

Here is a link to Brians conference for those on the list who are more 
concerned with the manager of Leeds United than old US sitcoms - :-))

https://audioboo.fm/boos/1894762-brian-mcdermott-press-conference-3rd-feb-lufc


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Re: [LU] Brian - presser online

[Ian Murray]

Cheers Dave - he's just a class act as a bloke, whatever you think of his 
management.

Hope the football league stand up and be counted, n tell this Cellino prick to 
sling his hook.

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> On 3 Feb 2014, at 21:52, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
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> Here is a link to Brians conference for those on the list who are more 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Nigel Barber]

Is this a beauty contest?

The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.

So many closed minds.



On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
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>
> Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough
>
>
>
> > On 03 February 2014 at 12:46 John Lee  wrote:
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[LU] Brian - presser online

[nat...@sky.com]

Here is a link to Brians conference for those on the list who are more 
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[LU] Timetable of events via Brian

[nat...@sky.com]

He said he got a phone call from Farnham on behalf of Cellino - but has not had 
the letter - then got call from Haigh saying he had not been sacked
Said Festa and Redders were going to pick the team and had changed the team he 
had picked but then that Gibbs had taken over manager for the day and had 
reverted back to the team Brian had picked.


Said Festa was there today to look after the Italian who was there - but did 
not know if that player was a Leeds player or not. Said if he is he will treat 
him with respect and use him if anything to offer

Did say he had the assurances from GFH in writing and that no-one would be at 
TA or in the dug out without the say so of the manager

He was very diplomatic and praised Gibbs, Ross and the fans - kept going on 
about how great the fans are and how touched he has been by the fans reception

Followed game on Sky Sports but was not angry or upset he just wanted us to win 
and win well

He spoke for 20mins without really saying much of any note - just sounded 
composed and dignified and proved, once again, that he does value being at LUFC 
and does know that we are a special club

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[LU] Brian press conference

[nat...@sky.com]

He did not have a lot to say - just kept repeating that all that counts is 
Leeds United and the fans.
Said despite many telling him to walk away he is just proud to be Leeds 
manager, loves the club and the fans and has no intention of walking away
Knows little about who will be owners - for now he answers to GFH and they have 
given him assurances that he is in charge of all football matters
Was very dignified and refused to slag anyone - says does not hold a grudge,

Said that he did not matter the club and the fans did


He was impressive but we do not know much more than we did before

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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[n...@6haroldplace.co.uk]

Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough



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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Ian Murray]

So we have officially signed this Andrea guy (!) then?

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> On 3 Feb 2014, at 21:06, "Richard Walker"  wrote:
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> Bates certainly would have !
> 
>> On 3 Feb 2014, at 12:49, Chris Briggs  wrote:
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>> On the plus side, it is said that he stopped Ross going to Cardiff. I am 
>> sure Haigh would have accepted the offer.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Richard Walker]

Bates certainly would have !

> On 3 Feb 2014, at 12:49, Chris Briggs  wrote:
> 
> On the plus side, it is said that he stopped Ross going to Cardiff. I am sure 
> Haigh would have accepted the offer.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 3 Feb 2014, at 12:47, "John Lee"  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[LU] [Definitely non-LU] apologies

[John Barber]

Pete C,

You look less like Kirstie Allie or more like Walt from Breaking Bad:
http://breakingbad.wikia.com/wiki/File:Season_2_-_Walt.jpg

Regards

JohnB, 
Probably the 147th (today) to tell you that...



-Original Message-
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 22:53:45 +1100
From: "Peter Castlehouse" 
To: "'Peter Castlehouse'" ,  "'Richard Naef'"
,  "'Leeds List'"

Subject: Re: [LU] apologies
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compare the Meerkat - judge for yourself - me or Kirstie Alley?

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ntj33igv9xivdo3/_7d8cfxX-9?n=263314899

Pete C


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Re: [LU] apologies

[Richard Naef]

good, but SOAP predated it by a year or 2(?)

> -Original Message-
> Taxi?

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Re: [LU] apologies

[Nicholas Armit]

Taxi?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 3, 2014, at 5:03 AM, "Richard Naef"  
> wrote:
> 
> surely it's more like Dallas, when Bobby died for half a season and then
> came out of the shower and it was all a dream, alive again after the ratings
> had nosedived!  Obviously I never watched Dallas, it just happened to be on
> while I walked through the Television Watching Room..
> 
> SOAP was probably the first of the US Sitcoms that was actually funny.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> 
>>> trying to think of a late 70's early 80's American programme now with
>> billy crystal I think which always finished with next week on...
>> (what's the bloody name)
>> 
>> Soap
>> but LUFC is funnier
>> Paul
> 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[Chris Briggs]

On the plus side, it is said that he stopped Ross going to Cardiff. I am sure 
Haigh would have accepted the offer.

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> On 3 Feb 2014, at 12:47, "John Lee"  wrote:
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>  
>  
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26006243
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[LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

[John Lee]

 
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26006243
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Re: [LU] apologies

[Peter Castlehouse]

Yeah tell me about it!

I had it examined years ago, and not unlike the veruka you get on your feet,
this one was called a Viduka, so I left it...
it's been with me ever since.


-Original Message-
From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014 11:18 PM
To: 'Peter Castlehouse'; 'Leeds List'
Subject: RE: [LU] apologies

Pete!! Don't move. there's some sort of strange Australian furry caterpillar
trying to get up your nose..


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[LU] Hay at YP's view of what's happened...

[Richard Naef]

http://bit.ly/MRm8e5

 

still doesn't make any more sense and even less reason to consider the tax
dodgy italian anything more than a swarthy Bates.

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Re: [LU] apologies

[Richard Naef]

Pete!! Don't move. there's some sort of strange Australian furry caterpillar
trying to get up your nose..

> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Castlehouse [mailto:dubca...@iinet.net.au]
> Sent: 03 February 2014 11:54
> To: 'Peter Castlehouse'; 'Richard Naef'; 'Leeds List'
> Subject: RE: [LU] apologies
> 
> compare the Meerkat - judge for yourself - me or Kirstie Alley?
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ntj33igv9xivdo3/_7d8cfxX-9?n=263314899
> 
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Re: [LU] More news later?

[Peter Castlehouse]

so BMcD's a gonorrhoea then?

Coat on
Pete C

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From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of Chris Briggs

In terms of the takeover it is more like trying to choose your favourite
sexually transmitted disease, it's going to be painful, elements may need
lancing and there's going to be a lot of unpleasant discharge ;o)


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Re: [LU] More news later?

[Chris Briggs]

In terms of the takeover it is more like trying to choose your favourite 
sexually transmitted disease, it's going to be painful, elements may need 
lancing and there's going to be a lot of unpleasant discharge ;o)

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Feb 2014, at 12:05, "Dr Michael Benjamin"  wrote:
> 
> I have gut feeling that you are right.
> A lot of manipulation and spin going on. 
> I think we are getting to choose between been run over by a bus or 
> steamroller.
> Not sure at all. 
> 
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>> On 3 February 2014 13:16, Chris Briggs  wrote:
>> Not sure I like this idea floating around of Sport Capital and Farnan's 
>> group getting together and sticking in a bid.
>> Sounds like a massive clash of egos and pissing contests to me. I can't see 
>> it being successful, they just seem to want to do it so that Cellino can't 
>> have it, very childish and likely to end in tears, most probably ours.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> > On 3 Feb 2014, at 11:07, "Nigel Sykes"  wrote:
>> >
>> > BMcD is apparently going to be talking to the press after training today -
>> > at 13:15
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Should be interesting.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Nigel
>> >
>> > (the Dublin one)
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Re: [LU] apologies

[Nigel Sykes]

> compare the Meerkat - judge for yourself - me or Kirstie Alley?

Having endured several episodes of her appalling, current comedy "Kirstie",
I'll take you every time Pete...

Nigel
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Re: [LU] More news later?

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

I have gut feeling that you are right.
A lot of manipulation and spin going on.
I think we are getting to choose between been run over by a bus or
steamroller.
Not sure at all.

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On 3 February 2014 13:16, Chris Briggs  wrote:

> Not sure I like this idea floating around of Sport Capital and Farnan's
> group getting together and sticking in a bid.
> Sounds like a massive clash of egos and pissing contests to me. I can't
> see it being successful, they just seem to want to do it so that Cellino
> can't have it, very childish and likely to end in tears, most probably ours.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 3 Feb 2014, at 11:07, "Nigel Sykes"  wrote:
> >
> > BMcD is apparently going to be talking to the press after training today
> -
> > at 13:15
> >
> >
> >
> > Should be interesting.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nigel
> >
> > (the Dublin one)
> >
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Re: [LU] apologies

[Peter Castlehouse]

compare the Meerkat - judge for yourself - me or Kirstie Alley?

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ntj33igv9xivdo3/_7d8cfxX-9?n=263314899

Pete C

-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of Peter Castlehouse
Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014 10:40 PM
To: 'Richard Naef'; 'Leeds List'
Subject: Re: [LU] apologies

Cheers was probably the best out of the bunch, only because it had a young
Kirstie Alley, who was to be the stuff of my fantasies for years.   Though
she's probably just like me now, wrinkly and spent

Pete C


-Original Message-


SOAP was probably the first of the US Sitcoms that was actually funny.


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Re: [LU] apologies

[Peter Castlehouse]

Cheers was probably the best out of the bunch, only because it had a young
Kirstie Alley, who was to be the stuff of my fantasies for years.   Though
she's probably just like me now, wrinkly and spent

Pete C


-Original Message-


SOAP was probably the first of the US Sitcoms that was actually funny.


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Re: [LU] More news later?

[Chris Briggs]

Not sure I like this idea floating around of Sport Capital and Farnan's group 
getting together and sticking in a bid.
Sounds like a massive clash of egos and pissing contests to me. I can't see it 
being successful, they just seem to want to do it so that Cellino can't have 
it, very childish and likely to end in tears, most probably ours.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Feb 2014, at 11:07, "Nigel Sykes"  wrote:
> 
> BMcD is apparently going to be talking to the press after training today -
> at 13:15
> 
> 
> 
> Should be interesting.
> 
> 
> 
> Nigel
> 
> (the Dublin one)
> 
> 
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[LU] More news later?

[Nigel Sykes]

BMcD is apparently going to be talking to the press after training today -
at 13:15

 

Should be interesting.

 

Nigel

(the Dublin one)

 

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Re: [LU] There's a lot of bollocks.....

[Chris Briggs]

Helium, eh, that would explain how wireless communications work.

You're right about the high pitch, my dog has just gone mental when I opened 
this mail.

Apologies in advance, I have just reduced the pitch of my email using the Barry 
White app on my iPhone, the low frequency may trigger unexpected bowel 
movements.

> On 3 Feb 2014, at 10:34, "Richard Naef"  
> wrote:
> 
> Oi Chris, email stopped using Ether ages ago because people kept on falling
> asleep, it's helium now, which is why everyone sounds a bit high pitched.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
>> On Behalf Of Chris Briggs
>> Sent: 03 February 2014 10:29
>> To: Leeds United E-Mail List
>> Subject: [LU] There's a lot of bollocks.
>> 
>> .spouted on this list.
>> 
>> The annual archive of my list emails has shown that in exactly the last 4
> years
>> we have managed to clog up the ether with 25,573 emails.
>> 
>> Actually, better make that 25,574 with this one.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] There's a lot of bollocks.....

[Richard Naef]

Oi Chris, email stopped using Ether ages ago because people kept on falling
asleep, it's helium now, which is why everyone sounds a bit high pitched.

> -Original Message-
> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
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> Sent: 03 February 2014 10:29
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> Subject: [LU] There's a lot of bollocks.
> 
> .spouted on this list.
> 
> The annual archive of my list emails has shown that in exactly the last 4
years
> we have managed to clog up the ether with 25,573 emails.
> 
> Actually, better make that 25,574 with this one.
> 
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[LU] There's a lot of bollocks.....

[Chris Briggs]

.spouted on this list.

The annual archive of my list emails has shown that in exactly the last 4 years 
we have managed to clog up the ether with 25,573 emails.

Actually, better make that 25,574 with this one.

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Re: [LU] Is the new owner REALLY all that bad ?

[Eric B]

thanks for taking my statement totally out of context Ed and then try to
vilify me. I m not falling for that kind of shit.

Eric


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:03 PM, E Walsh  wrote:

>  Eric,
>
> I have had 4 relatives who have died from Cancer.
> My father and two sisters have also had cancer.
>
> I find your comments deeply offensive
>
>
>
>
> Edmond
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
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> Sent: 03/02/2014 09:53
> To: Eric B 
> Cc: LEEDSLIST 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Is the new owner REALLY all that bad ?
>
> What has cancer to do with this?
>
>
> On 3 February 2014 09:42, Eric B  wrote:
>
> > theres good cancer and bad cancer?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Nigel Barber 
> wrote:
> >
> >> We've gone from being owned by poor crooks to a being owned by a rich
> >> crook. This is progress.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3 February 2014 07:54, Eric B  wrote:
> >>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> I like the fact Chellino demands success.
> >>>
> >>> and I hate it cause its easy to sit on top and make grand statements.
> >>> this
> >>> guy will know what to say at the right time.
> >>> looks like he has started. Personally I judge a man by what he does,
> not
> >>> what he says. looking at this bloke I wish
> >>> us all the best. AGAIN. why the fxxx did I bother getting foxtel/sky
> >>> sports
> >>> installed tomorrow is beyond me.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Rick Duniec 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > - Original Message -
> >>> > I like the fact Chellino demands success.
> >>> >
> >>> > Does he ?
> >>> > Is this a bit like Bates demanding success but not providing the
> means
> >>> to
> >>> > achieve it ?
> >>> > I haven't heard much of Cagliari since the days of Luigi Riva. Have
> >>> they
> >>> > qualified for Europe in the time that Cellino was demanding this
> >>> success ?
> >>> > Sincerely - I don't know. Have they won anything ?
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Re: [LU] Is the new owner REALLY all that bad ?

[E Walsh]

Eric,

I have had 4 relatives who have died from Cancer.
My father and two sisters have also had cancer.

I find your comments deeply offensive 




Edmond 

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-Original Message-
From: "Nigel Barber" 
Sent: ‎03/‎02/‎2014 09:53
To: "Eric B" 
Cc: "LEEDSLIST" 
Subject: Re: [LU] Is the new owner REALLY all that bad ?

What has cancer to do with this?


On 3 February 2014 09:42, Eric B  wrote:

> theres good cancer and bad cancer?
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Nigel Barber  wrote:
>
>> We've gone from being owned by poor crooks to a being owned by a rich
>> crook. This is progress.
>>
>>
>> On 3 February 2014 07:54, Eric B  wrote:
>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> I like the fact Chellino demands success.
>>>
>>> and I hate it cause its easy to sit on top and make grand statements.
>>> this
>>> guy will know what to say at the right time.
>>> looks like he has started. Personally I judge a man by what he does, not
>>> what he says. looking at this bloke I wish
>>> us all the best. AGAIN. why the fxxx did I bother getting foxtel/sky
>>> sports
>>> installed tomorrow is beyond me.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Rick Duniec  wrote:
>>>
>>> > - Original Message -
>>> > I like the fact Chellino demands success.
>>> >
>>> > Does he ?
>>> > Is this a bit like Bates demanding success but not providing the means
>>> to
>>> > achieve it ?
>>> > I haven't heard much of Cagliari since the days of Luigi Riva. Have
>>> they
>>> > qualified for Europe in the time that Cellino was demanding this
>>> success ?
>>> > Sincerely - I don't know. Have they won anything ?
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Re: [LU] apologies

[Richard Naef]

surely it's more like Dallas, when Bobby died for half a season and then
came out of the shower and it was all a dream, alive again after the ratings
had nosedived!  Obviously I never watched Dallas, it just happened to be on
while I walked through the Television Watching Room..

SOAP was probably the first of the US Sitcoms that was actually funny.

> -Original Message-
> 
> > trying to think of a late 70's early 80's American programme now with
> billy crystal I think which always finished with next week on...
> (what's the bloody name)
> 
> Soap
> but LUFC is funnier
> Paul


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Re: [LU] Is the new owner REALLY all that bad ?

[Eric B]

the point being when something is bad to the core, ie a crook or cancer,
its all bad. Having more money as a crook just makes you more powerful, it
doesnt make you less "crook".


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Nigel Barber  wrote:

> What has cancer to do with this?
>
>
> On 3 February 2014 09:42, Eric B  wrote:
>
>> theres good cancer and bad cancer?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Nigel Barber wrote:
>>
>>> We've gone from being owned by poor crooks to a being owned by a rich
>>> crook. This is progress.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 February 2014 07:54, Eric B  wrote:
>>>
 - Original Message -
 I like the fact Chellino demands success.

 and I hate it cause its easy to sit on top and make grand statements.
 this
 guy will know what to say at the right time.
 looks like he has started. Personally I judge a man by what he does, not
 what he says. looking at this bloke I wish
 us all the best. AGAIN. why the fxxx did I bother getting foxtel/sky
 sports
 installed tomorrow is beyond me.


 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Rick Duniec 
 wrote:

 > - Original Message -
 > I like the fact Chellino demands success.
 >
 > Does he ?
 > Is this a bit like Bates demanding success but not providing the
 means to
 > achieve it ?
 > I haven't heard much of Cagliari since the days of Luigi Riva. Have
 they
 > qualified for Europe in the time that Cellino was demanding this
 success ?
 > Sincerely - I don't know. Have they won anything ?
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Re: [LU] Is the new owner REALLY all that bad ?

[Nigel Barber]

After reading this BBC piece, http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26006243,
I really hope the deal goes through. He sounds like a genuinely passionate
bloke who speaks his mind. His convictions are for tax evasion, which is
honourable in my book.

I'm sick of mealy-mouthed businessmen. Haigh and co are jumped-up estate
agents. Good riddance.


Nigel.



On 3 February 2014 09:42, Eric B  wrote:

> theres good cancer and bad cancer?
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Nigel Barber  wrote:
>
>> We've gone from being owned by poor crooks to a being owned by a rich
>> crook. This is progress.
>>
>>
>> On 3 February 2014 07:54, Eric B  wrote:
>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> I like the fact Chellino demands success.
>>>
>>> and I hate it cause its easy to sit on top and make grand statements.
>>> this
>>> guy will know what to say at the right time.
>>> looks like he has started. Personally I judge a man by what he does, not
>>> what he says. looking at this bloke I wish
>>> us all the best. AGAIN. why the fxxx did I bother getting foxtel/sky
>>> sports
>>> installed tomorrow is beyond me.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Rick Duniec  wrote:
>>>
>>> > - Original Message -
>>> > I like the fact Chellino demands success.
>>> >
>>> > Does he ?
>>> > Is this a bit like Bates demanding success but not providing the means
>>> to
>>> > achieve it ?
>>> > I haven't heard much of Cagliari since the days of Luigi Riva. Have
>>> they
>>> > qualified for Europe in the time that Cellino was demanding this
>>> success ?
>>> > Sincerely - I don't know. Have they won anything ?
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>>> > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013
>>> > MARCHING ON TOGETHER
>>> >
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>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>69 Derby Street
>>Beeston
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>> twitter.com/mindbrix
>>
>
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[LU] Gotta feel sorry for BMcD

[Nigel Sykes]

So BMcD has arrived to take training this morning - but what else would he
do?

 

The guy's in a no-win situation now.  The new mob (and I use that word on
purpose) clearly want him out - they already tried to fire him once and
obviously have Festa lined up to replace him.  Just making a misjudgement
and jumping the gun is surely not going to change that and Cellini's
statement that he wants BMcD as manager is obviously bullshit.  So he's a
dead man walking and he knows it.  But if he fails to turn up and act like
he's the manager, they'd presumably be able to claim he walked out and thus
not have to pay him his due compensation for actually being sacked!

 

Hardly likely to make for a joyous atmosphere are training this week is it?

 

Nigel

(the Dublin one)

 

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Re: [LU] Is the new owner REALLY all that bad ?

[Nigel Barber]

What has cancer to do with this?


On 3 February 2014 09:42, Eric B  wrote:

> theres good cancer and bad cancer?
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Nigel Barber  wrote:
>
>> We've gone from being owned by poor crooks to a being owned by a rich
>> crook. This is progress.
>>
>>
>> On 3 February 2014 07:54, Eric B  wrote:
>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> I like the fact Chellino demands success.
>>>
>>> and I hate it cause its easy to sit on top and make grand statements.
>>> this
>>> guy will know what to say at the right time.
>>> looks like he has started. Personally I judge a man by what he does, not
>>> what he says. looking at this bloke I wish
>>> us all the best. AGAIN. why the fxxx did I bother getting foxtel/sky
>>> sports
>>> installed tomorrow is beyond me.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Rick Duniec  wrote:
>>>
>>> > - Original Message -
>>> > I like the fact Chellino demands success.
>>> >
>>> > Does he ?
>>> > Is this a bit like Bates demanding success but not providing the means
>>> to
>>> > achieve it ?
>>> > I haven't heard much of Cagliari since the days of Luigi Riva. Have
>>> they
>>> > qualified for Europe in the time that Cellino was demanding this
>>> success ?
>>> > Sincerely - I don't know. Have they won anything ?
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> twitter.com/mindbrix
>>
>
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Re: [LU] Is the new owner REALLY all that bad ?

[Eric B]

theres good cancer and bad cancer?


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Nigel Barber  wrote:

> We've gone from being owned by poor crooks to a being owned by a rich
> crook. This is progress.
>
>
> On 3 February 2014 07:54, Eric B  wrote:
>
>> - Original Message -
>> I like the fact Chellino demands success.
>>
>> and I hate it cause its easy to sit on top and make grand statements. this
>> guy will know what to say at the right time.
>> looks like he has started. Personally I judge a man by what he does, not
>> what he says. looking at this bloke I wish
>> us all the best. AGAIN. why the fxxx did I bother getting foxtel/sky
>> sports
>> installed tomorrow is beyond me.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Rick Duniec  wrote:
>>
>> > - Original Message -
>> > I like the fact Chellino demands success.
>> >
>> > Does he ?
>> > Is this a bit like Bates demanding success but not providing the means
>> to
>> > achieve it ?
>> > I haven't heard much of Cagliari since the days of Luigi Riva. Have they
>> > qualified for Europe in the time that Cellino was demanding this
>> success ?
>> > Sincerely - I don't know. Have they won anything ?
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Re: [LU] Is the new owner REALLY all that bad ?

[Nigel Barber]

We've gone from being owned by poor crooks to a being owned by a rich
crook. This is progress.


On 3 February 2014 07:54, Eric B  wrote:

> - Original Message -
> I like the fact Chellino demands success.
>
> and I hate it cause its easy to sit on top and make grand statements. this
> guy will know what to say at the right time.
> looks like he has started. Personally I judge a man by what he does, not
> what he says. looking at this bloke I wish
> us all the best. AGAIN. why the fxxx did I bother getting foxtel/sky sports
> installed tomorrow is beyond me.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Rick Duniec  wrote:
>
> > - Original Message -
> > I like the fact Chellino demands success.
> >
> > Does he ?
> > Is this a bit like Bates demanding success but not providing the means to
> > achieve it ?
> > I haven't heard much of Cagliari since the days of Luigi Riva. Have they
> > qualified for Europe in the time that Cellino was demanding this success
> ?
> > Sincerely - I don't know. Have they won anything ?
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