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I rest my case, m'lud. On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:30 AM, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: Well you complete moron, there is a difference of opinion about what was said, even a hearing. But don't let that interfere with your polemics. If you hadn't noticed he is Black and not Jewish so I imagine it would be hard to make that mistake. But the whole business about 'tap in' and your puerile fantasies that you are now a footballer that is the whole point isn't it. We are in competition. You incessantly and with no exception eagerly defame and pick on Israel. You trot around the Arab countries adding your gormless superficial take on everything Israel does and has done.You do your own little bit to make a bad situation impossible. Even when here almost next door to me, on being offered an invitation you pointedly didn't answer. This makes you a first class ignoramus.I have many a talk with our antagonists. That is possible but not with later day, self styled Lawrence Of Arabia wannabe like yourself. By the way we, Jews and Arabs talk of 'useful idiots like you' - they have nothing but deep contempt for you and your like. They know, as we all do, that your grasp on the situation is shallow and you are completely untrustworthy. But that is really not my problem. My problem is superficial Jew haters think that they can camouflage themselves as proponents of some noble cause and vent their spleen on Israel . None of the criteria used to clobber Israel are applied to anyone else or anywhere else. You are silent about Assad and ISIL. Your hypocrisy knows no boundaries and your shame is non existent. Pretend that you are Becchio but best know who you really are. A neo- Nazi Israeli baiter pretending not to be fascist anti-Semites. We said never again and say it time after time to people like you. Why do I want freedom of speech. So that we can hear you. So that we can tell you. If you are genuine, and you are not then treat everyone as you treat us. Demand from everyone as you demand from us. Do it in the Arab capitals that you troll around. Be the big freedom fighter - tell them about any of the PC crap you spot which is only applicable to Israel in your eyes. You won't be a Becchio compatible, you'll be a Haigh one. You have nothing to add here. Go home to the UK and have a love in with Galbraith. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 5 February 2015 at 16:22, Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk wrote: I would probably be better off keeping quiet, my good doctor, because you condemn yourself with your wild ranting much more eloquently than I could ever do. However, I am a bit like Luciano Becchio...I can't resist a 6-yard tap-in. So I will point out that there is, I believe, just a smidgeon of a contradiction in your profession of love for free speech, given that you cannot refrain from heaping totally unwarranted calumny upon me simply because I once spoke critically of Israel..or whatever it was that I said many years ago that set you off (I can't actually remember.) May I also ask you this: you seem to be saying that it was Bellusci's right to be able to call the Ipswich player a black twat ( or whatever he was supposed to have said)..so would it be an equally jolly and blameless manifestation of your precious free speech if the Ipswich player had been, say, Tal Ben Haim, and he had called him a Jewish twat? On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: i can't stand the puerile twat. Why beat about the bush? But you are probably right. TBH I prefer freedom of speech no matter what. I prefer that as the lesser evil over having sanctimonious twats like Heath deciding anything. Speech is only free when people can say what you don't want to hear. The minute you curtail it no matter what the reason someone else comes along with a reason that seems fine by him. What that moron found to quote from God only knows. I have always maintained freedom of speech as an absolute. But when you have a rigid knee jerk neo-anti-Semitic take on life as that cunt has then its not important what you say. Nothing gets beyond his protocols of elder Zion mind-set cum shield. But wait a minute he only objects to Israel-- that makes it Kosher or should I say Halal ? If you talk about restraint let's see if the pithy pontificator can keep his mouth shut wrt me. I cannot wrt him. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com
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Oh god i think I prefer the current 5 messages a week list! Nostalgia killed completely Sent from my iPhone On 5 Feb 2015, at 14:22, Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk wrote: I would probably be better off keeping quiet, my good doctor, because you condemn yourself with your wild ranting much more eloquently than I could ever do. However, I am a bit like Luciano Becchio...I can't resist a 6-yard tap-in. So I will point out that there is, I believe, just a smidgeon of a contradiction in your profession of love for free speech, given that you cannot refrain from heaping totally unwarranted calumny upon me simply because I once spoke critically of Israel..or whatever it was that I said many years ago that set you off (I can't actually remember.) May I also ask you this: you seem to be saying that it was Bellusci's right to be able to call the Ipswich player a black twat ( or whatever he was supposed to have said)..so would it be an equally jolly and blameless manifestation of your precious free speech if the Ipswich player had been, say, Tal Ben Haim, and he had called him a Jewish twat? On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: i can't stand the puerile twat. Why beat about the bush? But you are probably right. TBH I prefer freedom of speech no matter what. I prefer that as the lesser evil over having sanctimonious twats like Heath deciding anything. Speech is only free when people can say what you don't want to hear. The minute you curtail it no matter what the reason someone else comes along with a reason that seems fine by him. What that moron found to quote from God only knows. I have always maintained freedom of speech as an absolute. But when you have a rigid knee jerk neo-anti-Semitic take on life as that cunt has then its not important what you say. Nothing gets beyond his protocols of elder Zion mind-set cum shield. But wait a minute he only objects to Israel-- that makes it Kosher or should I say Halal ? If you talk about restraint let's see if the pithy pontificator can keep his mouth shut wrt me. I cannot wrt him. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 5 February 2015 at 11:09, John Lee bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I'm afraid Dr Mike, that Rob is quite correct on this occasion. You can't turn off the racist argument when it suits! For what it's worth, whilst Rob's post was clearly written in a style designed to take maximum p*ss in a parliamentary style, (and he hit the bullseye) you need to let this go. If you can't handle his posts, don't read them! I thought it was something of a masterful p*ss take - your reply is kind of nuts! Bellusci - if he's guilty I hope he won't play for Leeds again. On talent alone I don't think he's good enough anyway. And poster boy he definitely ain't, although if that's what rocks your boat :-) -- *From:* Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com *To:* Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk *Cc:* leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org *Sent:* Thursday, 5 February 2015, 5:13 *Subject:* Re: [LU] Bellusci charge It is indeed hard to follow. But here's why. Its because of a deep loathing of closet fascist prigs like you. I prefer the words of a wrong placed curse to the thought Police PC buggers who hi-jack causes to express their own rigid world views and intolerance. You dress all your sanctimonious claptrap in a antithesis of all that you are. In your case an intolerant knee jerk neo-anti-Semite. Which Arab state are crawling around now? How many times have you been tod DO NOT ADDRESS ME. I can't stand you, I won't leave you unanswered-- and no one on this list gives a flying fuck what you or I think. So just knock it off. Don't react to me and ~I won't react to you. It is really simple- if you could just overcome your knee jerk baiting. Count to ten, play with your jackboots, take out your collection of Hitler Youth pin ups-- do anything to distract yourself till the urge passes. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myray.com/ http://www.myRay.org http://www.myray.org/ -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ http://www.mydoctorexplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com http://www.drmichaelbenjamin.com/ On 5
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I would probably be better off keeping quiet, my good doctor, because you condemn yourself with your wild ranting much more eloquently than I could ever do. However, I am a bit like Luciano Becchio...I can't resist a 6-yard tap-in. So I will point out that there is, I believe, just a smidgeon of a contradiction in your profession of love for free speech, given that you cannot refrain from heaping totally unwarranted calumny upon me simply because I once spoke critically of Israel..or whatever it was that I said many years ago that set you off (I can't actually remember.) May I also ask you this: you seem to be saying that it was Bellusci's right to be able to call the Ipswich player a black twat ( or whatever he was supposed to have said)..so would it be an equally jolly and blameless manifestation of your precious free speech if the Ipswich player had been, say, Tal Ben Haim, and he had called him a Jewish twat? On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: i can't stand the puerile twat. Why beat about the bush? But you are probably right. TBH I prefer freedom of speech no matter what. I prefer that as the lesser evil over having sanctimonious twats like Heath deciding anything. Speech is only free when people can say what you don't want to hear. The minute you curtail it no matter what the reason someone else comes along with a reason that seems fine by him. What that moron found to quote from God only knows. I have always maintained freedom of speech as an absolute. But when you have a rigid knee jerk neo-anti-Semitic take on life as that cunt has then its not important what you say. Nothing gets beyond his protocols of elder Zion mind-set cum shield. But wait a minute he only objects to Israel-- that makes it Kosher or should I say Halal ? If you talk about restraint let's see if the pithy pontificator can keep his mouth shut wrt me. I cannot wrt him. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 5 February 2015 at 11:09, John Lee bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I'm afraid Dr Mike, that Rob is quite correct on this occasion. You can't turn off the racist argument when it suits! For what it's worth, whilst Rob's post was clearly written in a style designed to take maximum p*ss in a parliamentary style, (and he hit the bullseye) you need to let this go. If you can't handle his posts, don't read them! I thought it was something of a masterful p*ss take - your reply is kind of nuts! Bellusci - if he's guilty I hope he won't play for Leeds again. On talent alone I don't think he's good enough anyway. And poster boy he definitely ain't, although if that's what rocks your boat :-) -- *From:* Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com *To:* Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk *Cc:* leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org *Sent:* Thursday, 5 February 2015, 5:13 *Subject:* Re: [LU] Bellusci charge It is indeed hard to follow. But here's why. Its because of a deep loathing of closet fascist prigs like you. I prefer the words of a wrong placed curse to the thought Police PC buggers who hi-jack causes to express their own rigid world views and intolerance. You dress all your sanctimonious claptrap in a antithesis of all that you are. In your case an intolerant knee jerk neo-anti-Semite. Which Arab state are crawling around now? How many times have you been tod DO NOT ADDRESS ME. I can't stand you, I won't leave you unanswered-- and no one on this list gives a flying fuck what you or I think. So just knock it off. Don't react to me and ~I won't react to you. It is really simple- if you could just overcome your knee jerk baiting. Count to ten, play with your jackboots, take out your collection of Hitler Youth pin ups-- do anything to distract yourself till the urge passes. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myray.com/ http://www.myRay.org http://www.myray.org/ -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ http://www.mydoctorexplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com http://www.drmichaelbenjamin.com/ On 5 February 2015 at 02:08, Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk wrote: It is indeed odd that our esteemed colleague Dr. Benjamin, who in the past has proven himself to be so sensitive to perceived racism that he has accused
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Guys Please can you both record at least one message to each other via youtube , it would make reading your love letters to each other so much more fun if we knew how you sounded when you are winding each other up... if you are busy a quick vine 'Fuck Off you Jew/Arab Hater' would do, just so we can get an idea of the vitriol in real life Wayne -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Rob Heath Sent: 05 February 2015 21:37 To: Michael Benjamin Cc: leeds list Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge I rest my case, m'lud. On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:30 AM, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: Well you complete moron, there is a difference of opinion about what was said, even a hearing. But don't let that interfere with your polemics. If you hadn't noticed he is Black and not Jewish so I imagine it would be hard to make that mistake. But the whole business about 'tap in' and your puerile fantasies that you are now a footballer that is the whole point isn't it. We are in competition. You incessantly and with no exception eagerly defame and pick on Israel. You trot around the Arab countries adding your gormless superficial take on everything Israel does and has done.You do your own little bit to make a bad situation impossible. Even when here almost next door to me, on being offered an invitation you pointedly didn't answer. This makes you a first class ignoramus.I have many a talk with our antagonists. That is possible but not with later day, self styled Lawrence Of Arabia wannabe like yourself. By the way we, Jews and Arabs talk of 'useful idiots like you' - they have nothing but deep contempt for you and your like. They know, as we all do, that your grasp on the situation is shallow and you are completely untrustworthy. But that is really not my problem. My problem is superficial Jew haters think that they can camouflage themselves as proponents of some noble cause and vent their spleen on Israel . None of the criteria used to clobber Israel are applied to anyone else or anywhere else. You are silent about Assad and ISIL. Your hypocrisy knows no boundaries and your shame is non existent. Pretend that you are Becchio but best know who you really are. A neo- Nazi Israeli baiter pretending not to be fascist anti-Semites. We said never again and say it time after time to people like you. Why do I want freedom of speech. So that we can hear you. So that we can tell you. If you are genuine, and you are not then treat everyone as you treat us. Demand from everyone as you demand from us. Do it in the Arab capitals that you troll around. Be the big freedom fighter - tell them about any of the PC crap you spot which is only applicable to Israel in your eyes. You won't be a Becchio compatible, you'll be a Haigh one. You have nothing to add here. Go home to the UK and have a love in with Galbraith. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 5 February 2015 at 16:22, Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk wrote: I would probably be better off keeping quiet, my good doctor, because you condemn yourself with your wild ranting much more eloquently than I could ever do. However, I am a bit like Luciano Becchio...I can't resist a 6-yard tap-in. So I will point out that there is, I believe, just a smidgeon of a contradiction in your profession of love for free speech, given that you cannot refrain from heaping totally unwarranted calumny upon me simply because I once spoke critically of Israel..or whatever it was that I said many years ago that set you off (I can't actually remember.) May I also ask you this: you seem to be saying that it was Bellusci's right to be able to call the Ipswich player a black twat ( or whatever he was supposed to have said)..so would it be an equally jolly and blameless manifestation of your precious free speech if the Ipswich player had been, say, Tal Ben Haim, and he had called him a Jewish twat? On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: i can't stand the puerile twat. Why beat about the bush? But you are probably right. TBH I prefer freedom of speech no matter what. I prefer that as the lesser evil over having sanctimonious twats like Heath deciding anything. Speech is only free when people can say what you don't want to hear. The minute you curtail it no matter what the reason someone else comes along with a reason that seems fine by him. What that moron found to quote from God
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Chris Waddle is a strange pic? Sent from my iPhone On 6 Feb 2015, at 04:33, wayne callaghan ws.callag...@live.co.uk wrote: I think Joey Barton is a prize bellend... Not sure if he's anti Semitic or of his opinion on the middle east, but he is a right twat in Twitter... I also think Chris Waddle is a cnut and I'm not overly keen on the Neville brothers either ( arseholes) Wayne On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 7:43 pm, Brendan [1]brendan_mcwilli...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't really have a problem with Joey Barton, he's had a few scraps but haven't we all... (*away to get the tin hat on) BMW --- Original Message --- From: Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com Sent: 5 February 2015 19:30 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge Well I'm glad I opened up this topic for conversation! How about we discuss a starting eleven of footballers who we'd never want playing for Leeds because of something they did or said.. Off the top of my head...Ched EvansJohn TerryLee BowyerJoey BartonMarlon KingLee Hughes Jeremy ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER References 1. mailto:brendan_mcwilli...@hotmail.com ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
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I too would probably be better off keeping quiet…but I cannot help myself. Rob, for the most part I agree with you. Mike B. really is being pretty damned hypocritical. As I recall it, the reason that the two of you are oil and water is because you said some very offensive anti-semitic stuff which you tried to pass of as anti-Israel….but which wasn’t. It was anti-semitic. So you’re right. He’s a hypocrite. And you’re the proof of that. I was pretty angry at you about it too — and believe I made that clear — but that was a long time ago and we’re good now. I’m far more offended by the Becchio obsession, frankly. On the other hand, just because I’m ok with it now doesn’t mean that Mike B. has to be. That’s up to him. But he can’t very well have a burr up his butt about you based on your old anti-semitic remarks and then take the position that racist comments are cool so long as Bellusci can play football. He can have it one way. He can have it the other way. He can’t have it both. As far as I’m concerned, there’s no room for racism in football….and shouldn’t be anywhere else. Condemning racism is not a matter of “PC.” It is addressing a very real problem that is alive, well and with us today in all its ugly, inglorious, misshapen forms. Michael A. Gardiner LAW OFFICES OF MICHAEL A. GARDINER 110 West “A” Street, Suite 950 San Diego, CA 92101 Phone: 619.238.9800 Fax: 619.814.3727 E-mail: mgardi...@gardinerlegal.commailto:mgardi...@gardinerlegal.com Confidentiality Notice: This electronic mail transmission, including any attachments, is privileged and confidential and is intended only for review by the party to whom it is addressed. It may contain attorney client or attorney work product privileged and confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and promptly delete this e-mail, including any attachments, without reading or saving them in any manner. Unintended transmission shall not constitute waiver of the attorney-client or any other privilege. On Feb 5, 2015, at 2:25 PM, leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.orgmailto:leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.org leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.orgmailto:leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.org wrote: Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 22:22:56 +0800 From: Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hkmailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk To: m...@myray.commailto:m...@myray.com Cc: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.orgmailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge Message-ID: CAEFQu0=K4F3e_nnb=zfd+ssyrgu1mnwarq0eoyfps_t4eej...@mail.gmail.commailto:CAEFQu0=K4F3e_nnb=zfd+ssyrgu1mnwarq0eoyfps_t4eej...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I would probably be better off keeping quiet, my good doctor, because you condemn yourself with your wild ranting much more eloquently than I could ever do. However, I am a bit like Luciano Becchio...I can't resist a 6-yard tap-in. So I will point out that there is, I believe, just a smidgeon of a contradiction in your profession of love for free speech, given that you cannot refrain from heaping totally unwarranted calumny upon me simply because I once spoke critically of Israel..or whatever it was that I said many years ago that set you off (I can't actually remember.) May I also ask you this: you seem to be saying that it was Bellusci's right to be able to call the Ipswich player a black twat ( or whatever he was supposed to have said)..so would it be an equally jolly and blameless manifestation of your precious free speech if the Ipswich player had been, say, Tal Ben Haim, and he had called him a Jewish twat? On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.commailto:m...@myray.com wrote: i can't stand the puerile twat. Why beat about the bush? But you are probably right. TBH I prefer freedom of speech no matter what. I prefer that as the lesser evil over having sanctimonious twats like Heath deciding anything. Speech is only free when people can say what you don't want to hear. The minute you curtail it no matter what the reason someone else comes along with a reason that seems fine by him. What that moron found to quote from God only knows. I have always maintained freedom of speech as an absolute. But when you have a rigid knee jerk neo-anti-Semitic take on life as that cunt has then its not important what you say. Nothing gets beyond his protocols of elder Zion mind-set cum shield. But wait a minute he only objects to Israel-- that makes it Kosher or should I say Halal ? If you talk about restraint let's see if the pithy pontificator can keep his mouth shut wrt me. I cannot wrt him. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.comhttp://www.myray.com/ http://www.myRay.orghttp://www.myray.org/ -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.comhttp://www.mydoctorexplains.com/
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I read an interview with Waddle when I was a kid in which he said he hated leeds united and they were the only club in the world he would never consider playing for from that day forth he was a cnut -Original Message- From: Ian Murray [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com] Sent: 05 February 2015 22:33 To: wayne callaghan Cc: Brendan; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge Chris Waddle is a strange pic? Sent from my iPhone On 6 Feb 2015, at 04:33, wayne callaghan ws.callag...@live.co.uk wrote: I think Joey Barton is a prize bellend... Not sure if he's anti Semitic or of his opinion on the middle east, but he is a right twat in Twitter... I also think Chris Waddle is a cnut and I'm not overly keen on the Neville brothers either ( arseholes) Wayne On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 7:43 pm, Brendan [1]brendan_mcwilli...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't really have a problem with Joey Barton, he's had a few scraps but haven't we all... (*away to get the tin hat on) BMW --- Original Message --- From: Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com Sent: 5 February 2015 19:30 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge Well I'm glad I opened up this topic for conversation! How about we discuss a starting eleven of footballers who we'd never want playing for Leeds because of something they did or said.. Off the top of my head...Ched EvansJohn TerryLee BowyerJoey BartonMarlon KingLee Hughes Jeremy ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER References 1. mailto:brendan_mcwilli...@hotmail.com ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
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Apparently some shit hot lawyer is going to put me in chokey because two listers can't leave each other alone. This threat is so serious that the two protagonists are now on moderation. I have consulted my own fabulously sensible legal advisor and she agrees that this is a responsible action under the circumstances and that this will keep my arse safe in the face of any future legal action. Betty PS my legal advisor also says that if anyone else is worried that a future employer may see posts about them that are patently ridiculous they should unsubscribe immediately to protect their future employment prospects. Chris Waddle is a strange pic? Sent from my iPhone On 6 Feb 2015, at 04:33, wayne callaghan ws.callag...@live.co.uk wrote: I think Joey Barton is a prize bellend... Not sure if he's anti Semitic or of his opinion on the middle east, but he is a right twat in Twitter... I also think Chris Waddle is a cnut and I'm not overly keen on the Neville brothers either ( arseholes) Wayne On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 7:43 pm, Brendan [1]brendan_mcwilli...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't really have a problem with Joey Barton, he's had a few scraps but haven't we all... (*away to get the tin hat on) BMW --- Original Message --- From: Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com Sent: 5 February 2015 19:30 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge Well I'm glad I opened up this topic for conversation! How about we discuss a starting eleven of footballers who we'd never want playing for Leeds because of something they did or said.. Off the top of my head...Ched EvansJohn TerryLee BowyerJoey BartonMarlon KingLee Hughes Jeremy ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER References 1. mailto:brendan_mcwilli...@hotmail.com ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
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And from this he is to me! Sent from my iPhone On 6 Feb 2015, at 06:46, wayne ws.callag...@live.co.uk wrote: I read an interview with Waddle when I was a kid in which he said he hated leeds united and they were the only club in the world he would never consider playing for from that day forth he was a cnut -Original Message- From: Ian Murray [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com] Sent: 05 February 2015 22:33 To: wayne callaghan Cc: Brendan; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge Chris Waddle is a strange pic? Sent from my iPhone On 6 Feb 2015, at 04:33, wayne callaghan ws.callag...@live.co.uk wrote: I think Joey Barton is a prize bellend... Not sure if he's anti Semitic or of his opinion on the middle east, but he is a right twat in Twitter... I also think Chris Waddle is a cnut and I'm not overly keen on the Neville brothers either ( arseholes) Wayne On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 7:43 pm, Brendan [1]brendan_mcwilli...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't really have a problem with Joey Barton, he's had a few scraps but haven't we all... (*away to get the tin hat on) BMW --- Original Message --- From: Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com Sent: 5 February 2015 19:30 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge Well I'm glad I opened up this topic for conversation! How about we discuss a starting eleven of footballers who we'd never want playing for Leeds because of something they did or said.. Off the top of my head...Ched EvansJohn TerryLee BowyerJoey BartonMarlon KingLee Hughes Jeremy ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER References 1. mailto:brendan_mcwilli...@hotmail.com ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Bellusci charge
I'm afraid Dr Mike, that Rob is quite correct on this occasion. You can't turn off the racist argument when it suits! For what it's worth, whilst Rob's post was clearly written in a style designed to take maximum p*ss in a parliamentary style, (and he hit the bullseye) you need to let this go. If you can't handle his posts, don't read them! I thought it was something of a masterful p*ss take - your reply is kind of nuts! Bellusci - if he's guilty I hope he won't play for Leeds again. On talent alone I don't think he's good enough anyway. And poster boy he definitely ain't, although if that's what rocks your boat :-) From: Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com To: Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk Cc: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2015, 5:13 Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge It is indeed hard to follow. But here's why. Its because of a deep loathing of closet fascist prigs like you. I prefer the words of a wrong placed curse to the thought Police PC buggers who hi-jack causes to express their own rigid world views and intolerance. You dress all your sanctimonious claptrap in a antithesis of all that you are. In your case an intolerant knee jerk neo-anti-Semite. Which Arab state are crawling around now? How many times have you been tod DO NOT ADDRESS ME. I can't stand you, I won't leave you unanswered-- and no one on this list gives a flying fuck what you or I think. So just knock it off. Don't react to me and ~I won't react to you. It is really simple- if you could just overcome your knee jerk baiting. Count to ten, play with your jackboots, take out your collection of Hitler Youth pin ups-- do anything to distract yourself till the urge passes. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 5 February 2015 at 02:08, Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk wrote: It is indeed odd that our esteemed colleague Dr. Benjamin, who in the past has proven himself to be so sensitive to perceived racism that he has accused listers (OK, one lister) of anti-semitism without an iota of justification, should now dismiss allegedly blatant racial abuse in such a cavalier fashion. I hope that Mike, Jeremy and Nick have not received the offlist barrage of foul abuse which the good doctor likes to inflict on his perceived critics. On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:30 AM, Nick n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote: yeah, unsurprisingly I agree with Jeremy and Mike A - being against racism is not a crusade any more than being against anti-semitism is…there’s just right and wrong. On 4 Feb 2015, at 16:32, Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com wrote: Agree with Mike A here, if he did say something racist he has no place on the team I don't care how good he is, I don't want to support him. If he was accused of anti-semitic sentiments wouldn't you be upset Dr. Mike? Best, Jeremy From: mikel...@googlemail.com CC: jeremyadam...@hotmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:24:41 -0500 To: m...@myray.com Err sorry Mike you're wrong. When I take my friends mixed race kids to the football I'd to enjoy an atmosphere where racist words aren't acceptable. I don't think there is anything 'PC' about that. Regards Mike A. Sent from my iPhone On 4 Feb 2015, at 10:13, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: So much cringeworthy PC garbage. Who gives a fuck one way or another he's here to play football not be a poster boy in a crusade. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 4 February 2015 at 16:35, Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com wrote: SO Bellusci's hearing is tomorrow. If he really did say something racist I say kick him out. However, being Leeds, it's hard not to feel he's going to get charged regardless of what he actually said. http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-bellusci-racism-charge-to-be-heard-tomorrow-1-7087889 Jeremy ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email
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You leave Rhyming alone! -Original Message- From: Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net Sent: 05/02/2015 09:26 To: 'John Lee' bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk; m...@myray.com m...@myray.com; 'Rob Heath' rhe...@hkis.edu.hk Cc: 'leeds list' leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge Just like old times! Just need Humpries Cundell Walker etc... to wade in now and possibly Rhyming from Aus! -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John Lee Sent: 05 February 2015 09:10 To: m...@myray.com; Rob Heath Cc: leeds list Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge I'm afraid Dr Mike, that Rob is quite correct on this occasion. You can't turn off the racist argument when it suits! For what it's worth, whilst Rob's post was clearly written in a style designed to take maximum p*ss in a parliamentary style, (and he hit the bullseye) you need to let this go. If you can't handle his posts, don't read them! I thought it was something of a masterful p*ss take - your reply is kind of nuts! Bellusci - if he's guilty I hope he won't play for Leeds again. On talent alone I don't think he's good enough anyway. And poster boy he definitely ain't, although if that's what rocks your boat :-) From: Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com To: Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk Cc: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2015, 5:13 Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge It is indeed hard to follow. But here's why. Its because of a deep loathing of closet fascist prigs like you. I prefer the words of a wrong placed curse to the thought Police PC buggers who hi-jack causes to express their own rigid world views and intolerance. You dress all your sanctimonious claptrap in a antithesis of all that you are. In your case an intolerant knee jerk neo-anti-Semite. Which Arab state are crawling around now? How many times have you been tod DO NOT ADDRESS ME. I can't stand you, I won't leave you unanswered-- and no one on this list gives a flying fuck what you or I think. So just knock it off. Don't react to me and ~I won't react to you. It is really simple- if you could just overcome your knee jerk baiting. Count to ten, play with your jackboots, take out your collection of Hitler Youth pin ups-- do anything to distract yourself till the urge passes. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 5 February 2015 at 02:08, Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk wrote: It is indeed odd that our esteemed colleague Dr. Benjamin, who in the past has proven himself to be so sensitive to perceived racism that he has accused listers (OK, one lister) of anti-semitism without an iota of justification, should now dismiss allegedly blatant racial abuse in such a cavalier fashion. I hope that Mike, Jeremy and Nick have not received the offlist barrage of foul abuse which the good doctor likes to inflict on his perceived critics. On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:30 AM, Nick n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote: yeah, unsurprisingly I agree with Jeremy and Mike A - being against racism is not a crusade any more than being against anti-semitism is…there’s just right and wrong. On 4 Feb 2015, at 16:32, Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com wrote: Agree with Mike A here, if he did say something racist he has no place on the team I don't care how good he is, I don't want to support him. If he was accused of anti-semitic sentiments wouldn't you be upset Dr. Mike? Best, Jeremy From: mikel...@googlemail.com CC: jeremyadam...@hotmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:24:41 -0500 To: m...@myray.com Err sorry Mike you're wrong. When I take my friends mixed race kids to the football I'd to enjoy an atmosphere where racist words aren't acceptable. I don't think there is anything 'PC' about that. Regards Mike A. Sent from my iPhone On 4 Feb 2015, at 10:13, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: So much cringeworthy PC garbage. Who gives a fuck one way or another he's here to play football not be a poster boy in a crusade. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog:
Re: [LU] Bellusci charge
Well I'm glad I opened up this topic for conversation! How about we discuss a starting eleven of footballers who we'd never want playing for Leeds because of something they did or said.. Off the top of my head...Ched EvansJohn TerryLee BowyerJoey BartonMarlon KingLee Hughes Jeremy ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
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I used to get angry about the stuff bandied about by our two friends on the list but I can't be arsed with it now. In the same way as we can tell them both to delete each other's posts surely we can all do the same if they get on our tits. Betty sent in great haste from a mobile phone ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] FSE : Your Invitation to Belfast this Summer
http://www.fanseurope.org/en/fans-congress/effc-2015-registration.html BELFAST IS CALLING! #EFFC goes to Northern Ireland! REGISTRATIONS NOW OPEN! Deadline for Registrations is 20 June 2015!! As already announced during #EFFC2014 in Italy, we will gather from 2-5 July 2015 next summer in the vibrant and inspirational capital city of Belfast / Northern Ireland. So: Start to plan your trip to Belfast enjoy the famous friendly Northern Irish welcome - and of course beer, whiskey - and lots of football tradition! Include the EFFC 2015 as part of your holiday and experience more of what the Emerald Isle has to offer. Our hosts, the Amalgamation of Northern Ireland Supporters Clubs (AONISC) and the Irish Football Association (IFA) are looking forward to show their hospitality in Belfast. To make this trip a really special one for those travelling via Dublin, the Irish Supporters Network (ISN) and the Bohemians Supporters Trust in the Republic of Ireland will organize an 'pre-EFFC get together' in Dublin on Thursday 2 JULY 2015. Later on we will have a joint AWAY bus trip with rented busses to Belfast, Northern Ireland. The European Football Fans Congress (#EFFC) will once again be free of charge and open to all supporters whether they are ultras, members of official fan clubs, fan initiatives or representatives of national fans organisations or just individual, non-organised supporters. The venues are also accessible for wheelchair users amongst participants. Likewise, we are happy to welcome fan project workers, Supporter Liaison Officers and other football representatives, fan researchers, fan lawyers and politicians who care about supporters and are interested in an open and honest dialogue about the game we love. With the input from our members and the EFFC organizing team, we´re going to put a EFFC programme together, that should allow exchange on many common issues for fans all across Europe and beyond. We want to meet and learn from each other about shared problems and solutions for us as active supporters in modern football.. In this spirit: we are looking forward to seeing you at Belfast in Northern Ireland from 2 - 5 July 2015! Please register for the #EFFC until 20 June 2015 at the latest! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
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i can't stand the puerile twat. Why beat about the bush? But you are probably right. TBH I prefer freedom of speech no matter what. I prefer that as the lesser evil over having sanctimonious twats like Heath deciding anything. Speech is only free when people can say what you don't want to hear. The minute you curtail it no matter what the reason someone else comes along with a reason that seems fine by him. What that moron found to quote from God only knows. I have always maintained freedom of speech as an absolute. But when you have a rigid knee jerk neo-anti-Semitic take on life as that cunt has then its not important what you say. Nothing gets beyond his protocols of elder Zion mind-set cum shield. But wait a minute he only objects to Israel-- that makes it Kosher or should I say Halal ? If you talk about restraint let's see if the pithy pontificator can keep his mouth shut wrt me. I cannot wrt him. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 5 February 2015 at 11:09, John Lee bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I'm afraid Dr Mike, that Rob is quite correct on this occasion. You can't turn off the racist argument when it suits! For what it's worth, whilst Rob's post was clearly written in a style designed to take maximum p*ss in a parliamentary style, (and he hit the bullseye) you need to let this go. If you can't handle his posts, don't read them! I thought it was something of a masterful p*ss take - your reply is kind of nuts! Bellusci - if he's guilty I hope he won't play for Leeds again. On talent alone I don't think he's good enough anyway. And poster boy he definitely ain't, although if that's what rocks your boat :-) -- *From:* Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com *To:* Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk *Cc:* leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org *Sent:* Thursday, 5 February 2015, 5:13 *Subject:* Re: [LU] Bellusci charge It is indeed hard to follow. But here's why. Its because of a deep loathing of closet fascist prigs like you. I prefer the words of a wrong placed curse to the thought Police PC buggers who hi-jack causes to express their own rigid world views and intolerance. You dress all your sanctimonious claptrap in a antithesis of all that you are. In your case an intolerant knee jerk neo-anti-Semite. Which Arab state are crawling around now? How many times have you been tod DO NOT ADDRESS ME. I can't stand you, I won't leave you unanswered-- and no one on this list gives a flying fuck what you or I think. So just knock it off. Don't react to me and ~I won't react to you. It is really simple- if you could just overcome your knee jerk baiting. Count to ten, play with your jackboots, take out your collection of Hitler Youth pin ups-- do anything to distract yourself till the urge passes. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myray.com/ http://www.myRay.org http://www.myray.org/ -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ http://www.mydoctorexplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com http://www.drmichaelbenjamin.com/ On 5 February 2015 at 02:08, Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk wrote: It is indeed odd that our esteemed colleague Dr. Benjamin, who in the past has proven himself to be so sensitive to perceived racism that he has accused listers (OK, one lister) of anti-semitism without an iota of justification, should now dismiss allegedly blatant racial abuse in such a cavalier fashion. I hope that Mike, Jeremy and Nick have not received the offlist barrage of foul abuse which the good doctor likes to inflict on his perceived critics. On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:30 AM, Nick n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote: yeah, unsurprisingly I agree with Jeremy and Mike A - being against racism is not a crusade any more than being against anti-semitism is…there’s just right and wrong. On 4 Feb 2015, at 16:32, Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com wrote: Agree with Mike A here, if he did say something racist he has no place on the team I don't care how good he is, I don't want to support him. If he was accused of anti-semitic sentiments wouldn't you be upset Dr. Mike? Best, Jeremy From: mikel...@googlemail.com CC: jeremyadam...@hotmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge Date: Wed, 4
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Just like old times! Just need Humpries Cundell Walker etc... to wade in now and possibly Rhyming from Aus! -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John Lee Sent: 05 February 2015 09:10 To: m...@myray.com; Rob Heath Cc: leeds list Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge I'm afraid Dr Mike, that Rob is quite correct on this occasion. You can't turn off the racist argument when it suits! For what it's worth, whilst Rob's post was clearly written in a style designed to take maximum p*ss in a parliamentary style, (and he hit the bullseye) you need to let this go. If you can't handle his posts, don't read them! I thought it was something of a masterful p*ss take - your reply is kind of nuts! Bellusci - if he's guilty I hope he won't play for Leeds again. On talent alone I don't think he's good enough anyway. And poster boy he definitely ain't, although if that's what rocks your boat :-) From: Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com To: Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk Cc: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2015, 5:13 Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge It is indeed hard to follow. But here's why. Its because of a deep loathing of closet fascist prigs like you. I prefer the words of a wrong placed curse to the thought Police PC buggers who hi-jack causes to express their own rigid world views and intolerance. You dress all your sanctimonious claptrap in a antithesis of all that you are. In your case an intolerant knee jerk neo-anti-Semite. Which Arab state are crawling around now? How many times have you been tod DO NOT ADDRESS ME. I can't stand you, I won't leave you unanswered-- and no one on this list gives a flying fuck what you or I think. So just knock it off. Don't react to me and ~I won't react to you. It is really simple- if you could just overcome your knee jerk baiting. Count to ten, play with your jackboots, take out your collection of Hitler Youth pin ups-- do anything to distract yourself till the urge passes. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 5 February 2015 at 02:08, Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk wrote: It is indeed odd that our esteemed colleague Dr. Benjamin, who in the past has proven himself to be so sensitive to perceived racism that he has accused listers (OK, one lister) of anti-semitism without an iota of justification, should now dismiss allegedly blatant racial abuse in such a cavalier fashion. I hope that Mike, Jeremy and Nick have not received the offlist barrage of foul abuse which the good doctor likes to inflict on his perceived critics. On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:30 AM, Nick n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote: yeah, unsurprisingly I agree with Jeremy and Mike A - being against racism is not a crusade any more than being against anti-semitism is…there’s just right and wrong. On 4 Feb 2015, at 16:32, Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com wrote: Agree with Mike A here, if he did say something racist he has no place on the team I don't care how good he is, I don't want to support him. If he was accused of anti-semitic sentiments wouldn't you be upset Dr. Mike? Best, Jeremy From: mikel...@googlemail.com CC: jeremyadam...@hotmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:24:41 -0500 To: m...@myray.com Err sorry Mike you're wrong. When I take my friends mixed race kids to the football I'd to enjoy an atmosphere where racist words aren't acceptable. I don't think there is anything 'PC' about that. Regards Mike A. Sent from my iPhone On 4 Feb 2015, at 10:13, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: So much cringeworthy PC garbage. Who gives a fuck one way or another he's here to play football not be a poster boy in a crusade. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 4 February 2015 at 16:35, Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com wrote: SO Bellusci's hearing is tomorrow. If he really did say something racist I say kick him out. However, being Leeds, it's hard not to feel he's going to get charged regardless of
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Well you complete moron, there is a difference of opinion about what was said, even a hearing. But don't let that interfere with your polemics. If you hadn't noticed he is Black and not Jewish so I imagine it would be hard to make that mistake. But the whole business about 'tap in' and your puerile fantasies that you are now a footballer that is the whole point isn't it. We are in competition. You incessantly and with no exception eagerly defame and pick on Israel. You trot around the Arab countries adding your gormless superficial take on everything Israel does and has done.You do your own little bit to make a bad situation impossible. Even when here almost next door to me, on being offered an invitation you pointedly didn't answer. This makes you a first class ignoramus.I have many a talk with our antagonists. That is possible but not with later day, self styled Lawrence Of Arabia wannabe like yourself. By the way we, Jews and Arabs talk of 'useful idiots like you' - they have nothing but deep contempt for you and your like. They know, as we all do, that your grasp on the situation is shallow and you are completely untrustworthy. But that is really not my problem. My problem is superficial Jew haters think that they can camouflage themselves as proponents of some noble cause and vent their spleen on Israel . None of the criteria used to clobber Israel are applied to anyone else or anywhere else. You are silent about Assad and ISIL. Your hypocrisy knows no boundaries and your shame is non existent. Pretend that you are Becchio but best know who you really are. A neo- Nazi Israeli baiter pretending not to be fascist anti-Semites. We said never again and say it time after time to people like you. Why do I want freedom of speech. So that we can hear you. So that we can tell you. If you are genuine, and you are not then treat everyone as you treat us. Demand from everyone as you demand from us. Do it in the Arab capitals that you troll around. Be the big freedom fighter - tell them about any of the PC crap you spot which is only applicable to Israel in your eyes. You won't be a Becchio compatible, you'll be a Haigh one. You have nothing to add here. Go home to the UK and have a love in with Galbraith. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 5 February 2015 at 16:22, Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk wrote: I would probably be better off keeping quiet, my good doctor, because you condemn yourself with your wild ranting much more eloquently than I could ever do. However, I am a bit like Luciano Becchio...I can't resist a 6-yard tap-in. So I will point out that there is, I believe, just a smidgeon of a contradiction in your profession of love for free speech, given that you cannot refrain from heaping totally unwarranted calumny upon me simply because I once spoke critically of Israel..or whatever it was that I said many years ago that set you off (I can't actually remember.) May I also ask you this: you seem to be saying that it was Bellusci's right to be able to call the Ipswich player a black twat ( or whatever he was supposed to have said)..so would it be an equally jolly and blameless manifestation of your precious free speech if the Ipswich player had been, say, Tal Ben Haim, and he had called him a Jewish twat? On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: i can't stand the puerile twat. Why beat about the bush? But you are probably right. TBH I prefer freedom of speech no matter what. I prefer that as the lesser evil over having sanctimonious twats like Heath deciding anything. Speech is only free when people can say what you don't want to hear. The minute you curtail it no matter what the reason someone else comes along with a reason that seems fine by him. What that moron found to quote from God only knows. I have always maintained freedom of speech as an absolute. But when you have a rigid knee jerk neo-anti-Semitic take on life as that cunt has then its not important what you say. Nothing gets beyond his protocols of elder Zion mind-set cum shield. But wait a minute he only objects to Israel-- that makes it Kosher or should I say Halal ? If you talk about restraint let's see if the pithy pontificator can keep his mouth shut wrt me. I cannot wrt him. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control
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I certainly do Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 5 February 2015 at 17:31, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.net wrote: Oh god i think I prefer the current 5 messages a week list! Nostalgia killed completely Sent from my iPhone On 5 Feb 2015, at 14:22, Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk wrote: I would probably be better off keeping quiet, my good doctor, because you condemn yourself with your wild ranting much more eloquently than I could ever do. However, I am a bit like Luciano Becchio...I can't resist a 6-yard tap-in. So I will point out that there is, I believe, just a smidgeon of a contradiction in your profession of love for free speech, given that you cannot refrain from heaping totally unwarranted calumny upon me simply because I once spoke critically of Israel..or whatever it was that I said many years ago that set you off (I can't actually remember.) May I also ask you this: you seem to be saying that it was Bellusci's right to be able to call the Ipswich player a black twat ( or whatever he was supposed to have said)..so would it be an equally jolly and blameless manifestation of your precious free speech if the Ipswich player had been, say, Tal Ben Haim, and he had called him a Jewish twat? On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: i can't stand the puerile twat. Why beat about the bush? But you are probably right. TBH I prefer freedom of speech no matter what. I prefer that as the lesser evil over having sanctimonious twats like Heath deciding anything. Speech is only free when people can say what you don't want to hear. The minute you curtail it no matter what the reason someone else comes along with a reason that seems fine by him. What that moron found to quote from God only knows. I have always maintained freedom of speech as an absolute. But when you have a rigid knee jerk neo-anti-Semitic take on life as that cunt has then its not important what you say. Nothing gets beyond his protocols of elder Zion mind-set cum shield. But wait a minute he only objects to Israel-- that makes it Kosher or should I say Halal ? If you talk about restraint let's see if the pithy pontificator can keep his mouth shut wrt me. I cannot wrt him. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 5 February 2015 at 11:09, John Lee bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I'm afraid Dr Mike, that Rob is quite correct on this occasion. You can't turn off the racist argument when it suits! For what it's worth, whilst Rob's post was clearly written in a style designed to take maximum p*ss in a parliamentary style, (and he hit the bullseye) you need to let this go. If you can't handle his posts, don't read them! I thought it was something of a masterful p*ss take - your reply is kind of nuts! Bellusci - if he's guilty I hope he won't play for Leeds again. On talent alone I don't think he's good enough anyway. And poster boy he definitely ain't, although if that's what rocks your boat :-) -- *From:* Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com *To:* Rob Heath rhe...@hkis.edu.hk *Cc:* leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org *Sent:* Thursday, 5 February 2015, 5:13 *Subject:* Re: [LU] Bellusci charge It is indeed hard to follow. But here's why. Its because of a deep loathing of closet fascist prigs like you. I prefer the words of a wrong placed curse to the thought Police PC buggers who hi-jack causes to express their own rigid world views and intolerance. You dress all your sanctimonious claptrap in a antithesis of all that you are. In your case an intolerant knee jerk neo-anti-Semite. Which Arab state are crawling around now? How many times have you been tod DO NOT ADDRESS ME. I can't stand you, I won't leave you unanswered-- and no one on this list gives a flying fuck what you or I think. So just knock it off. Don't react to me and ~I won't react to you. It is really simple- if you could just overcome your knee jerk baiting. Count to ten, play with your jackboots, take out your collection of Hitler Youth pin ups-- do anything to
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How do you do that on gmail-- Chrome. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com On 5 February 2015 at 20:42, John Boocock barbaravi...@gmail.com wrote: I used to get angry about the stuff bandied about by our two friends on the list but I can't be arsed with it now. In the same way as we can tell them both to delete each other's posts surely we can all do the same if they get on our tits. Betty sent in great haste from a mobile phone ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
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I don't really have a problem with Joey Barton, he's had a few scraps but haven't we all... (*away to get the tin hat on) BMW --- Original Message --- From: Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com Sent: 5 February 2015 19:30 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge Well I'm glad I opened up this topic for conversation! How about we discuss a starting eleven of footballers who we'd never want playing for Leeds because of something they did or said.. Off the top of my head...Ched EvansJohn TerryLee BowyerJoey BartonMarlon KingLee Hughes Jeremy ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
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I think Joey Barton is a prize bellend... Not sure if he's anti Semitic or of his opinion on the middle east, but he is a right twat in Twitter... I also think Chris Waddle is a cnut and I'm not overly keen on the Neville brothers either ( arseholes) Wayne On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 7:43 pm, Brendan [1]brendan_mcwilli...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't really have a problem with Joey Barton, he's had a few scraps but haven't we all... (*away to get the tin hat on) BMW --- Original Message --- From: Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com Sent: 5 February 2015 19:30 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Bellusci charge Well I'm glad I opened up this topic for conversation! How about we discuss a starting eleven of footballers who we'd never want playing for Leeds because of something they did or said.. Off the top of my head...Ched EvansJohn TerryLee BowyerJoey BartonMarlon KingLee Hughes Jeremy ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER References 1. mailto:brendan_mcwilli...@hotmail.com ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
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Emlyn Hughes Mark El Presidente Wisconsin Whites Leeds United Chicago Fire ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER