[LU] Improvement

2017-09-10 Thread Rob Heath
Although there's no doubt that last season was much better in many ways
than many years before it, there were still a number of infuriating things
about it; and one of those things was our performances after international
breaks.

As ever, the break would drag on and on, but all the time I would be
thinking "OK, so we've got this shit-hot coach now in Garry
Monk..everything was a bit rushed in pre-season, but now he's got 2
whole weeks to work his magic on these lads..we've only actually
got 3 or 4 players awayhe's always banging on about the group
and the project and it taking time.well now he's got time."

Result? 4 international breaks..4 post i-b games..points
zero...goals scored zero.

And this season? Well..
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[LU] What a weekend!

2017-09-10 Thread Rob Heath
Not only were the current players scoring for fun on
satdy...ex-players were banging 'em in all over t'country!

I haven't seen all the scorers by any means, but I did notice Wood,
Antonsson, Poleon, even Kilgallon all scoring. Bradley Johnson I believe
notched a brace on Friday night.

If you're smart, I'd put a bob on Sam Byram to score tonight!
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[LU] penalty yesterday

2017-09-10 Thread David Smail
Nice observation. Subtle Pontus. That's the way to do it sometimes.

 

Dave

 

 

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[LU] penalty yesterday

2017-09-10 Thread nat...@sky.com
Just watchig the 12 minute highlights on LUTV (I really cannot get enough of 
Burton game) and have found out what a part Pontus played in the penalty 
decision
We had a corner by Hernandez that Pontus headed just wide - but he was having 
his shirt pulled - it was quite obvious but the ref missed it (as they tend to 
do)- Pontus without screaming, shouting or getting into the referees face, 
pointed out the fact that they were tugging at his shirt
A couple of minutes later, another Hernandez corner, this time Lasogga was 
having his shirt pulled but this time the ref noticed it and gave us a the 
penalty. Of course he may have spotted it anyway and given the pen but I do 
think Pontus bringing it to his attention and in a decent manner must have 
helped him make that decision
Another thing that has been good, yesterday in particular but all season 
really, is the fact that we do not seem to have many bookings - no-one was 
booked yesterday - and Pontus who was booked a lot last season and got 3(?) 
bans, has so far not picked up a single one. Clearly players like him are going 
to get booked just for the way the game is now and the fact they make tackles, 
so it is great to see him, and the team as a whole, cut out the silly stuff
Dave
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Re: [LU] Burton

2017-09-10 Thread Ian Murray
It's amazing what a performance like this can do to one's mood. Makes me want 
to get on a plane and turn up on Tuesday, with my dad and have a few pints of 
Leeds Pale.

I'll have to make do with the live stream and some Australian red.

We're going up as fucking champions!

MOT



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 Original message 
From: Ted 
Date: 10/09/2017 19:00 (GMT+08:00)
To: David Nattan 
Cc: leedslist 
Subject: Re: [LU] Burton

Dave wrote:


Did anyone go to the new Fans Zone and if so was it any good ? I quite
fancied it but my mates wanted to stay in town. Is it worth visiting later
in the season if they bring it back ?


We were too late to go before the match but as we're in NE Corner it was
open to us at half time. No real queues, helpful staff (the ones that
served me!) & some decent "anthem" tunes being played made for a decent
experience.
Also, a 2 pint (plastic) glass of Cider/Lager was £5. Compared to a single
pint for £3.90, no brainer! Me & a mate bought one + a (free) pint glass
and shared, £2.50 against £3.90.

So with a few minor improvements (directing people around it to ticket
office & NE entrances), I would say it was okay and worth a visit.

Completely agree with yours & everyone's reports, a sublime performance at
this level. At 4 nil tho, we were still asking if we were "safe" - the joys
of being a Leeds fan!

And Rich, love the fact that you were there with your "old man" and your
Daughter, just what great memories are made of. My (late) Dad took me when
I was a kid, I took both my kids when they were little and still go with my
son who has now had a son himself. I now look forward to me, my son and
grandson  going to matches together! I just wish my Dad was still here to
be with us. MOT

Ted H.
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Re: [LU] Burton

2017-09-10 Thread Ted
Dave wrote:


Did anyone go to the new Fans Zone and if so was it any good ? I quite
fancied it but my mates wanted to stay in town. Is it worth visiting later
in the season if they bring it back ?


We were too late to go before the match but as we're in NE Corner it was
open to us at half time. No real queues, helpful staff (the ones that
served me!) & some decent "anthem" tunes being played made for a decent
experience.
Also, a 2 pint (plastic) glass of Cider/Lager was £5. Compared to a single
pint for £3.90, no brainer! Me & a mate bought one + a (free) pint glass
and shared, £2.50 against £3.90.

So with a few minor improvements (directing people around it to ticket
office & NE entrances), I would say it was okay and worth a visit.

Completely agree with yours & everyone's reports, a sublime performance at
this level. At 4 nil tho, we were still asking if we were "safe" - the joys
of being a Leeds fan!

And Rich, love the fact that you were there with your "old man" and your
Daughter, just what great memories are made of. My (late) Dad took me when
I was a kid, I took both my kids when they were little and still go with my
son who has now had a son himself. I now look forward to me, my son and
grandson  going to matches together! I just wish my Dad was still here to
be with us. MOT

Ted H.
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Re: [LU] Burton

2017-09-10 Thread Nick
The one comment we made between goals 2 and three yesterday was that this was 
like the early days of O’Leary’s team, when pretty much any player would pop up 
and have a bang on goal, everyone was so mobile, the play was fluent and all 
were comfortable on the ball...


> On 10 Sep 2017, at 10:46, nat...@sky.com wrote:
> 
> Loving it Rich - I think over the years you have been more critical of the 
> players and less optimistic than I have been - but we are certainly 100% in 
> agreement with this current team. It really is that good. As you said 1989 
> will never be repeated - off the pitch it was a different time (not to 
> everyone liking but I loved it) and on the pitch we were rough and ready with 
> some decent performances (the title winning year under Wilko even more so - 
> the  4 1 at Villa when we knew we were genuine contenders and the 6 1 at 
> Wednesday ) but this is just different class
> I have fallen out of love with football - did so a few years ago- and no 
> longer watch any on TV (I almost force myself to watch England on TV now I no 
> longer go but that is it) but yesterday was so good that I would even have 
> enjoyed it if it had not been Leeds
> I have just watched the goals (4 times so far including in slow motion) on 
> Ch5 and each one is amazing in its own right, apart from the penalty which 
> was soft but a definate penalty and well scored. They said that we have now 
> had 10 different scorers this season, with hat tricks (albeit in the LC) from 
> Siaz and Roofe, 2 on debut by Lasogga, and 3 in total for the non scoring 
> Phillips. That is such a change from last season when it was the number 9 who 
> scored or no-one.
> Saiz is just different class - just look at the hightlight on CH5 - his 
> passing is amazing - see the ball to Lasogga when he hit the post, the 
> outside of the boot flick to Roofe for number 4 and the chip whislt stood 
> still to Roofe for our 5th - pure magic
> To do all this without the lad most of us think is our best midfielder 
> (Vieira) and the player who has had pundits raving so far (Alioski) is 
> nothing short of amazing. As Rich says we have real strength in depth - with 
> good cover for every position.
> Full marks to TC for doing something none of us expected - we all thought it 
> would be Roofe or more likely Lasogga up top with the other on the bench - 
> but no, he rested Alioski after he played two games during the break, and 
> kept the red hot in form Roofe on the pitch and got a great performance out 
> of him.He also left Vieira out who also played in the week. He then got it 
> right bringing off both Anita and O'Kane when the game was won, since both 
> are suffering with slight injuries, injuries that need rest.
> 
> I am champing at the bit to get back to ER on Tuesday for more of the same 
> (hoping for it rather than expecting / demanding it) and wondering what team 
> TC will pick - assuming everyone is fit and available (Lasogga baby 
> situation) - surely he has to start with the same team but then that is 
> unfair on Alioski. Or does he bring Alioski back and maybe rest Hernandez ?
> How does Cibicki get some game time (maybe in net since we do not seem to 
> need a keeper at present - lol) or Grot get more than a few minutes- real 
> choice for once
> Did anyone go to the new Fans Zone and if so was it any good ? I quite 
> fancied it but my mates wanted to stay in town. Is it worth visiting later in 
> the season if they bring it back ?
> dave
>  From: Richard Walker 
> To: Leeds List ; "nat...@sky.com"  
> Sent: Sunday, 10 September 2017, 9:59
> Subject: Burton
> 
> Agree with Dave, yesterday was magnificent. 
> Life changes and times change and yesterday I was sat in the rain and sun in 
> the family stand with my 80 year old dad and my daughter (her first game !) 
> and I don't think I've enjoyed myself as much as at Elland Road for a very 
> long time. If I think back to that amazing 1989 promotion season I don't 
> think that will ever be repeated - I went to every home and away game that 
> season culminating in an historic weekend in Bournemouth. There was some 
> great performances and games that season but none as good as what I saw 
> yesterday and that's some statement. My old man likes to come to games but in 
> recent years he's seen us thumped at home to Huddersfield amongst other 
> terrible performances. Yesterday he reckoned that's the best he's seen Leeds 
> play for 10 years.Every player looked comfortable on the ball and some of the 
> pass and move football had everyone around me just stood on their feet 
> applauding. Burton were chasing shadows and just couldn't live with us and we 
> could have been 5 up in the first 20 minutes. A scoreline of 8 or 9 nil at 
> halftime would have reflected the game more than 3-0. A guy behind me said it 
> was mainly down to Burton who offered nothing. Yes ok, Murphy couldn't play 
> for them and apparently Warnock was playing with a knock but they ne

Re: [LU] Burton

2017-09-10 Thread nat...@sky.com
Loving it Rich - I think over the years you have been more critical of the 
players and less optimistic than I have been - but we are certainly 100% in 
agreement with this current team. It really is that good. As you said 1989 will 
never be repeated - off the pitch it was a different time (not to everyone 
liking but I loved it) and on the pitch we were rough and ready with some 
decent performances (the title winning year under Wilko even more so - the  4 1 
at Villa when we knew we were genuine contenders and the 6 1 at Wednesday ) but 
this is just different class
I have fallen out of love with football - did so a few years ago- and no longer 
watch any on TV (I almost force myself to watch England on TV now I no longer 
go but that is it) but yesterday was so good that I would even have enjoyed it 
if it had not been Leeds
I have just watched the goals (4 times so far including in slow motion) on Ch5 
and each one is amazing in its own right, apart from the penalty which was soft 
but a definate penalty and well scored. They said that we have now had 10 
different scorers this season, with hat tricks (albeit in the LC) from Siaz and 
Roofe, 2 on debut by Lasogga, and 3 in total for the non scoring Phillips. That 
is such a change from last season when it was the number 9 who scored or no-one.
Saiz is just different class - just look at the hightlight on CH5 - his passing 
is amazing - see the ball to Lasogga when he hit the post, the outside of the 
boot flick to Roofe for number 4 and the chip whislt stood still to Roofe for 
our 5th - pure magic
To do all this without the lad most of us think is our best midfielder (Vieira) 
and the player who has had pundits raving so far (Alioski) is nothing short of 
amazing. As Rich says we have real strength in depth - with good cover for 
every position.
Full marks to TC for doing something none of us expected - we all thought it 
would be Roofe or more likely Lasogga up top with the other on the bench - but 
no, he rested Alioski after he played two games during the break, and kept the 
red hot in form Roofe on the pitch and got a great performance out of him.He 
also left Vieira out who also played in the week. He then got it right bringing 
off both Anita and O'Kane when the game was won, since both are suffering with 
slight injuries, injuries that need rest.

I am champing at the bit to get back to ER on Tuesday for more of the same 
(hoping for it rather than expecting / demanding it) and wondering what team TC 
will pick - assuming everyone is fit and available (Lasogga baby situation) - 
surely he has to start with the same team but then that is unfair on Alioski. 
Or does he bring Alioski back and maybe rest Hernandez ?
How does Cibicki get some game time (maybe in net since we do not seem to need 
a keeper at present - lol) or Grot get more than a few minutes- real choice for 
once
Did anyone go to the new Fans Zone and if so was it any good ? I quite fancied 
it but my mates wanted to stay in town. Is it worth visiting later in the 
season if they bring it back ?
dave
  From: Richard Walker 
 To: Leeds List ; "nat...@sky.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, 10 September 2017, 9:59
 Subject: Burton
   
 Agree with Dave, yesterday was magnificent. 
Life changes and times change and yesterday I was sat in the rain and sun in 
the family stand with my 80 year old dad and my daughter (her first game !) and 
I don't think I've enjoyed myself as much as at Elland Road for a very long 
time. If I think back to that amazing 1989 promotion season I don't think that 
will ever be repeated - I went to every home and away game that season 
culminating in an historic weekend in Bournemouth. There was some great 
performances and games that season but none as good as what I saw yesterday and 
that's some statement. My old man likes to come to games but in recent years 
he's seen us thumped at home to Huddersfield amongst other terrible 
performances. Yesterday he reckoned that's the best he's seen Leeds play for 10 
years.Every player looked comfortable on the ball and some of the pass and move 
football had everyone around me just stood on their feet applauding. Burton 
were chasing shadows and just couldn't live with us and we could have been 5 up 
in the first 20 minutes. A scoreline of 8 or 9 nil at halftime would have 
reflected the game more than 3-0. A guy behind me said it was mainly down to 
Burton who offered nothing. Yes ok, Murphy couldn't play for them and 
apparently Warnock was playing with a knock but they nearly beat Sheff Wed last 
week and how many times have we seen journeymen teams like this come to Elland 
Road and make it very difficult for us. We made them look rubbish and I don't 
think they had a shot on target in 93 minutes. 
The remarkable thing for me is that TC plays with a team who are capable of 
doing unexpected attacking football. To have a team with Siaz, Hernandes and 
Roofe would not have been contemplated by Garry Monk. They're all slig

Re: [LU] Burton

2017-09-10 Thread Rob Heath
Bloody hell!

The results have been amazing so far, and (unlike often last season) the
performances have been as good if not better, as far as I can glean from
10,000 miles away.

And if even the professional miserabilist is throwing around 10s like
confetti, something must really be happening at Elland Road!

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 4:49 PM, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

>  Agree with Dave, yesterday was magnificent.
> Life changes and times change and yesterday I was sat in the rain and sun
> in the family stand with my 80 year old dad and my daughter (her first game
> !) and I don't think I've enjoyed myself as much as at Elland Road for a
> very long time. If I think back to that amazing 1989 promotion season I
> don't think that will ever be repeated - I went to every home and away game
> that season culminating in an historic weekend in Bournemouth. There was
> some great performances and games that season but none as good as what I
> saw yesterday and that's some statement. My old man likes to come to games
> but in recent years he's seen us thumped at home to Huddersfield amongst
> other terrible performances. Yesterday he reckoned that's the best he's
> seen Leeds play for 10 years.Every player looked comfortable on the ball
> and some of the pass and move football had everyone around me just stood on
> their feet applauding. Burton were chasing shadows and just couldn't live
> with us and we could have been 5 up in the first 20 minutes. A scoreline of
> 8 or 9 nil at halftime would have reflected the game more than 3-0. A guy
> behind me said it was mainly down to Burton who offered nothing. Yes ok,
> Murphy couldn't play for them and apparently Warnock was playing with a
> knock but they nearly beat Sheff Wed last week and how many times have we
> seen journeymen teams like this come to Elland Road and make it very
> difficult for us. We made them look rubbish and I don't think they had a
> shot on target in 93 minutes.
> The remarkable thing for me is that TC plays with a team who are capable
> of doing unexpected attacking football. To have a team with Siaz, Hernandes
> and Roofe would not have been contemplated by Garry Monk. They're all
> slightly unpredictable (in the case of Hernandes very unpredictable) and
> are all considered to be the same sort of player. To have them all in the
> team and all playing at the top of their game and working together is
> almost genius from the manager. then you throw in Luke Ayling as an
> attacking right back who gives Mel Sterland (the Flying Pig) a run for his
> money, and Lassoga who is a big unit who can move fast and get into good
> position. His performance first half was better than Wood offered in any of
> his 30 goal season games last season, and Lasogga ain't match fit. This guy
> looks the business.
> At the back, Vurn played well at left back and even he was turning into a
> left winger at times. The back two were untroubled and Pontus even treated
> us in the family stand to some tricks which really took the piss out of the
> Burton player. What a star that bloke is.
> The goals were all good but I loved Lasogga first - powerfully bursting on
> to the ball and smashing it in with his left foot. Hernandes took his
> penalty well and Philips got his 3rd this season with a nice curling left
> foot effort.
> 2nd effort we continued to dominate but the 3 subs (Lasogga, Anita and
> O'Kane) did disrupt our game and although we were never troubled we didn't
> have the same slick style although Siaz treated us to some skills late on.
> More of this please, I can't imagine anyone in that crowd not returning on
> Tuesday night unless like me you'll be working in Glasgow so I'm in the
> process of testing out this VPN carry on so I can get the live stream. Just
> can't miss seeing it.
> Scores:
> Wiedwald - ? How do you rate a player who did nothing ? I still couldn't
> tell you whether this keeper is any good ? Is literally had nothing to do
> since the Bolton game .
> Anita - 9. Solid, good link up play. Good player.
> Ayling - 10. Playing most of the first half like a right winger bursting
> forward. Great stuff.
> Cooper - 9. Didn't have much to do but what he did was confident.
> Jansson - 10. Taking the piss, defending with style, bringing the ball
> forward - complete defender.
> O'Kane - 9. This was the best I've seen from him. He's limited but in this
> team his steadiness is required. Busy player with some good turns to start
> off moves.
> Philips - 10. Ditto O'kane however he bagged another goal. Also towards
> the end as we took the foot off the gas, Philips was still chasing and
> harrying. I would have had Vierra and Bridcutt in all day over Philips but
> credit to TC and to Philips at the moment they are proving me and others
> wrong.
> Roofe - 10. When I heard the team news walking to the ground that Allioski
> had been dropped and Roofe will play on the wing I thought it would b

[LU] Burton

2017-09-10 Thread {broken-address} Richard Walker
 Agree with Dave, yesterday was magnificent. 
Life changes and times change and yesterday I was sat in the rain and sun in 
the family stand with my 80 year old dad and my daughter (her first game !) and 
I don't think I've enjoyed myself as much as at Elland Road for a very long 
time. If I think back to that amazing 1989 promotion season I don't think that 
will ever be repeated - I went to every home and away game that season 
culminating in an historic weekend in Bournemouth. There was some great 
performances and games that season but none as good as what I saw yesterday and 
that's some statement. My old man likes to come to games but in recent years 
he's seen us thumped at home to Huddersfield amongst other terrible 
performances. Yesterday he reckoned that's the best he's seen Leeds play for 10 
years.Every player looked comfortable on the ball and some of the pass and move 
football had everyone around me just stood on their feet applauding. Burton 
were chasing shadows and just couldn't live with us and we could have been 5 up 
in the first 20 minutes. A scoreline of 8 or 9 nil at halftime would have 
reflected the game more than 3-0. A guy behind me said it was mainly down to 
Burton who offered nothing. Yes ok, Murphy couldn't play for them and 
apparently Warnock was playing with a knock but they nearly beat Sheff Wed last 
week and how many times have we seen journeymen teams like this come to Elland 
Road and make it very difficult for us. We made them look rubbish and I don't 
think they had a shot on target in 93 minutes. 
The remarkable thing for me is that TC plays with a team who are capable of 
doing unexpected attacking football. To have a team with Siaz, Hernandes and 
Roofe would not have been contemplated by Garry Monk. They're all slightly 
unpredictable (in the case of Hernandes very unpredictable) and are all 
considered to be the same sort of player. To have them all in the team and all 
playing at the top of their game and working together is almost genius from the 
manager. then you throw in Luke Ayling as an attacking right back who gives Mel 
Sterland (the Flying Pig) a run for his money, and Lassoga who is a big unit 
who can move fast and get into good position. His performance first half was 
better than Wood offered in any of his 30 goal season games last season, and 
Lasogga ain't match fit. This guy looks the business. 
At the back, Vurn played well at left back and even he was turning into a left 
winger at times. The back two were untroubled and Pontus even treated us in the 
family stand to some tricks which really took the piss out of the Burton 
player. What a star that bloke is. 
The goals were all good but I loved Lasogga first - powerfully bursting on to 
the ball and smashing it in with his left foot. Hernandes took his penalty well 
and Philips got his 3rd this season with a nice curling left foot effort. 
2nd effort we continued to dominate but the 3 subs (Lasogga, Anita and O'Kane) 
did disrupt our game and although we were never troubled we didn't have the 
same slick style although Siaz treated us to some skills late on. 
More of this please, I can't imagine anyone in that crowd not returning on 
Tuesday night unless like me you'll be working in Glasgow so I'm in the process 
of testing out this VPN carry on so I can get the live stream. Just can't miss 
seeing it. 
Scores:
Wiedwald - ? How do you rate a player who did nothing ? I still couldn't tell 
you whether this keeper is any good ? Is literally had nothing to do since the 
Bolton game .
Anita - 9. Solid, good link up play. Good player. 
Ayling - 10. Playing most of the first half like a right winger bursting 
forward. Great stuff.
Cooper - 9. Didn't have much to do but what he did was confident. 
Jansson - 10. Taking the piss, defending with style, bringing the ball forward 
- complete defender. 
O'Kane - 9. This was the best I've seen from him. He's limited but in this team 
his steadiness is required. Busy player with some good turns to start off 
moves. 
Philips - 10. Ditto O'kane however he bagged another goal. Also towards the end 
as we took the foot off the gas, Philips was still chasing and harrying. I 
would have had Vierra and Bridcutt in all day over Philips but credit to TC and 
to Philips at the moment they are proving me and others wrong. 
Roofe - 10. When I heard the team news walking to the ground that Allioski had 
been dropped and Roofe will play on the wing I thought it would be TC's first 
balls up team selection. Again TC got it right, Roofe is on fire and he looks 
like a different player now he's got the goals under his belt. He looked 
stronger, quicker, fitter, taller and he really took his goal well. He was up 
against Warnock who looked f*cked but if he continues like this he is another 
player that could prove me wrong. 
Lasogga - 10 . Perfect debut and there won't be many teams in this division 
with a player like this. The only criticism you could level is that he di

Re: [LU] Burton

2017-09-10 Thread David W
It was wonderful to behold - first match I've watched on our new fangled
international streaming service.

Almost unfair to pick out any individual player, but special mention to
O'Kane - he absolutely ran the match whilst he was on.

Great that we've got almost all this bunch tied up to long term deals too -
the future is shining bright white.

As good as the team performance was, it also says something that Alioski
never got on the pitch and Pennington, Berardi, CBJ and Vieira weren't even
in the 18 - we have both the team and the squad to go the distance this
year.
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