Re: [LU] Monaco

[Simon McNally]

Can’t disagree with most of that.
I didn’t think Phillips was as bad as you did, but it is frustrating when he 
keeps giving the ball away cheaply. At least he tries to make tackles, which is 
more than O’Kane ever does!
I thought O’Connor had a good game and I particularly like his confidence in 
bringing the ball out of defence.
Berardi is an idiot. I thought the red looked harsh, until I watched it back 
when I got home. Third red of the season and likely a 5 match ban. Should he 
play for Leeds again?
I thought Saiz had a poor game. Too many times he made the wrong decision in 
the final third and is so one footed it’s unbelievable. He had a good chance on 
his left but lost it by trying to turn back onto his right.
I thought Hernandez was superb. He is consistently our best player and if we’re 
not trying everything to get him to sign a new contract there’s something 
wrong. He frustrates at times with misplaced passes but that’s probably why 
he’s at Leeds and not playing in the prem.
You can see why Dallas gets a game because he does look like he’s trying but he 
can’t cross a ball to save his life. We got into some decent positions but he 
constantly picked out the keeper’s gloves. I don’t know how you can be a winger 
and not be able to cross a ball. I agree with Rich, time for him to move on.
I really don’t see the point playing Lasogga anymore. I don’t think we’ll be 
signing him for next season so why play him? I’m not convinced by Ekuban but he 
is likely to be here next season , so why not give him a run of games?
Interesting discussion on RL after the game about whether this is Heck’s fault.
Consensus seemed to be that the players are simply not good enough and out 
early season results flattered us. I’m inclined to agree. You look at the teams 
we beat at the start of the season and they’re all near the bottom and even 
then I thought we were lucky against a few of them, especially Birmingham.
Ever since we were bullied away at Millwall I think we’ve been poor. We managed 
some wins before Christmas against teams near the bottom but we’ve got very 
little against the top teams.
If I was blaming anyone at the moment it’d be the owner, not TC or Heck or even 
Orta. He’s the one who sanctioned Wood’s sale at the end of the window without 
having a replacement lined up and didn’t bother signing a left back until 
January. Fans are getting at Orta over the quality of the signings made but 
he’s working under the restrictions that Radz has put in place - £15000 limit 
on wages. You’re not going to get many quality players for that which is why 
we’re taking a punt on unknown players from foreign leagues in the hope of 
finding a gem. If that’s the level we’re forced to be at I’d rather see young 
lads from the academy given a chance, which I’m pleased Heck has done.
We’ve a massive summer ahead with a lot of players needing moving on.
If it was up to me Roofe, O’Kane and Cooper would be the first out of the door! 
Trouble is, who’d want them?

S

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> On 8 Apr 2018, at 08:48, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think it's a valid point Nick, I'm not convinced by BFP but he's a young 
> lad and deserves his chance. He made 3 great saves but as you say he doesn't 
> look confident on crosses and corners. 
> a few hungover points from me. 
> Fletcher got a point blank header against the bar , he was completely 
> unmarked and this just happens every game now, we have definitely taken a big 
> step backwards this year in our defensive approach. 
> Sunderland played with 2 tricky wingers who looked like world beaters up 
> against Dallas and Beradi, neither could cope. Dallas played as a wing back 
> and got into several good positions but just about every time he failed to 
> deliver with his cross. He is a very average player and I would be looking to 
> offload him this Summer. 
> I thought we shaded the first half and the second half could have gone either 
> way. It was a game of mistakes and poor play but this did lead to end to end 
> stuff and chances at both ends. We hit the bar twice second half, Siaz wuth a 
> great free-kick and Allioski with a header that was easier to score from a 
> great cross from Pablo who was showing Dallas how to do it. Pablo was 
> everyway but it's clear that if he doesn't score or create a wonder goal then 
> we're struggling. Siaz looked heavy legged to me and he kept losing the ball 
> in possession however he did have one good run and shot that their keeper 
> saved well. 
> So on to Beradi who got himself sent off for the 3rd time this season and I 
> thought back to his debut when he made a similar challenge in a similar place 
> on the pitch and it would seem to me that this lad doens't have a footballing 
> brain and he really is playing the wrong sport. I'm watching a bare knuckle 
> boxing series on Netflix at the moment and I think he should have a go at 
> that. I'm a bit fed up of the 'Beradi is committed' line now bec

Re: [LU] Sunderland

[Michael Benjamin]

Yup,
But I don't trust Radz's judgement. He's over his head.

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Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 11:43:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [LU] Sunderland

My final remarkThe bad side, we still have no real identity and no idea what 
kind of team we are or how we play - it is back to the drawing board in the 
closed seasonand Rich W's
Hecky - he's give some of the youngsters a go - I like that but what is his 
style of play ? What has he improved ? The defence seems all at sea and there 
doesn't look like any organisation to me. Midfield seems to rely on Pablo's 
brilliance rather than having any cohesion and up front our attacking tactics 
seem non existant. Who is Hecky ?
both puts us in agreement but more importantly shows that the '5 year plan' or 
whatever Radz called it, is not working - we have no real footballing identity 
, we do not now what kind of team we are or what we want to be - route one, 
ticky tacky possession, attacking or defensive etc. Even more worrying is the 
fact that the u23s (who are now getting some success) play a totally different, 
more continental way than the first team
I thought Hecky was a decent appointment - but it is a bit of try one method 
and then go for another -TC an unknown foreigner who has never been in England, 
followed by a local boy who has spent his whole life here- no continuity of 
approachNow I am very worried that he is not up to it and if that is the case , 
Radz needs to decide that at the end of the season so the new man can at least 
have a say in the acquisition and retention of players
It is hard to think that next season really will be 'the one' - it is looking 
more like it will be more of the same mid table mediocrity
Dave


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Re: [LU] Sunderland

[nat...@sky.com]

My final remarkThe bad side, we still have no real identity and no idea what 
kind of team we are or how we play - it is back to the drawing board in the 
closed seasonand Rich W's 
Hecky - he's give some of the youngsters a go - I like that but what is his 
style of play ? What has he improved ? The defence seems all at sea and there 
doesn't look like any organisation to me. Midfield seems to rely on Pablo's 
brilliance rather than having any cohesion and up front our attacking tactics 
seem non existant. Who is Hecky ? 
both puts us in agreement but more importantly shows that the '5 year plan' or 
whatever Radz called it, is not working - we have no real footballing identity 
, we do not now what kind of team we are or what we want to be - route one, 
ticky tacky possession, attacking or defensive etc. Even more worrying is the 
fact that the u23s (who are now getting some success) play a totally different, 
more continental way than the first team
I thought Hecky was a decent appointment - but it is a bit of try one method 
and then go for another -TC an unknown foreigner who has never been in England, 
followed by a local boy who has spent his whole life here- no continuity of 
approachNow I am very worried that he is not up to it and if that is the case , 
Radz needs to decide that at the end of the season so the new man can at least 
have a say in the acquisition and retention of players
It is hard to think that next season really will be 'the one' - it is looking 
more like it will be more of the same mid table mediocrity
Dave
 
  
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Re: [LU] Sunderland

[Michael Benjamin]

So do I.  I prefer stability but this guy's, record, is, appalling.

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Subject: Re: [LU] Sunderland

Good report Dave, despite the meds...

Vieira hit the post, Hernandez’s shot shortly after hit the keeper’s knee 
before skidding across the goal and Alioski’s diving header hit the bar...we 
came close, but not close enough. My mate thinks Hegginbottom should be 
sacked...

Nick

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> On 7 Apr 2018, at 20:50, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
>
> Hurrah, only two home games to go - only (half) joking, I love going to ER 
> and the match day experience, however poor the football is at timesI was at 
> the bar getting the beers in when a lad in front of me got the team news on 
> his phone , a debut for Paudie O'Connor , fair enough we agreed with Cooper, 
> Pennington and Shaunessey all out injured. It was a case of pick him or put 
> Berardi at centre back and give Pearce another run out - difficult to argue  
> either way. Ekuban was dropped following his failures to score when one on 
> one in the last two games. Then he pointed out a lad called Callum Nicell was 
> on the bench. No-one had a clue who he was , of all the u23s who are close to 
> a call up , this was a new one on us all - Oriel Rey, fair enough, Ousim 
> Bouy, at least we have heard of him, Madger Gomes , OK crap but he has played 
> before, or even Jack Clarke or Sam Dalby etc but Callum Nicell , no idea, and 
> no reason as to why he got the nod.
> Whatever we made our way to the ground along with 30, ooo other fans, OK a 
> drop of 5,000 from Bolton game but this lot all had to pay for their ticketSo 
> at home v the joint bottom team in the League , a team who have won 6 games 
> out of 40 and have a minus 29 goal difference. Fair enough they were playing 
> to stay up and we were playing because we have a few more games before we go 
> on our holidays - what could go wrong ?In some ways it was not a bad game, 
> insomuch as there was lots of incident and chances at both ends - a good game 
> for the neutral if you could be bothered and did not care about skill , class 
> or football abilityIt is hard to recall which team did what and when (I had a 
> lot to drink and a lot of  meds, more so than normal) but they hit the post 
> and the bar, we (Saiz) hit the bar with a free kick, and both keepers made a 
> few decent saves and both team missed chances, so in a way this could have 
> been 3 or 4 each.
> We started brightly and it was soon clear why they are being relegated - 
> Vieira (getting back on form) went close with a decent shot and then Pablo 
> sent a great shot whizzing past the far post .At the other end BPF, looking 
> more and more like a decent keeper made a couple of saves and got lucky when 
> their lad missed a free headerAt half time we went off to a reasonable 
> reception and we all thought it was only a matter of time. I also told those 
> near me that the first goal would be the key - whoever got it would winI have 
> no idea what was said at half time, probably 'keep going and it will come' 
> from Heck - 'they are shit, get attacking them' from Coleman. Whatever the 
> case they started the half as if they meant business and got us on the back 
> foot, then after less than 5 minutes a cross into the box, their stiker made 
> a run in front of the defenders and lashed it high into the net from a tight 
> angle -a good finish and even though it meant BPF was beaten at his near post 
> , he had no chanceThis was the confidence boost they needed and we were rocked
> They had a couple more chances to put it beyond doubt but BPF stood tall and 
> made a couple of decent saves as we got out act together and Saiz and 
> Hernandez showed their classSaiz was part of a lovely move that ripped them 
> open but Saiz's shot was well saved. Then Saiz fed a great ball into Pablo 
> who took a touch, sent the defenders one way and placed it with style into 
> the corner - 1 1
> A thunderous free kick that hit the bar from Saiz and a great cross that did 
> not quite get to Alioski stopped us getting the winner.Then as the clock was 
> ticking down and a draw was looking inevitable Berardi was nutmegged on the 
> half way line by the touchline, no way was the lad going to do that and get 
> past him as Berardi dived in. Ref thought it was worse than we did and went 
> for his red ( from my spot nothing like as bad as the foul on Lassaggo at 
> Fulham)That left us with a man short and with 5 minutes added on- we survived 
> but only just as BPF was called into action on a few occasions in this 5 mins 
> including one great tip over the bar, and so a game we should and could have 
> won (or lost) ended up with a draw, no use to them in their fight against 
> relegation and not much use to us with only 2 games leftON the plus side,

Re: [LU] Sunderland

[Nick Allen]

Good report Dave, despite the meds...

Vieira hit the post, Hernandez’s shot shortly after hit the keeper’s knee 
before skidding across the goal and Alioski’s diving header hit the bar...we 
came close, but not close enough. My mate thinks Hegginbottom should be 
sacked...

Nick

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> On 7 Apr 2018, at 20:50, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> 
> Hurrah, only two home games to go - only (half) joking, I love going to ER 
> and the match day experience, however poor the football is at timesI was at 
> the bar getting the beers in when a lad in front of me got the team news on 
> his phone , a debut for Paudie O'Connor , fair enough we agreed with Cooper, 
> Pennington and Shaunessey all out injured. It was a case of pick him or put 
> Berardi at centre back and give Pearce another run out - difficult to argue  
> either way. Ekuban was dropped following his failures to score when one on 
> one in the last two games. Then he pointed out a lad called Callum Nicell was 
> on the bench. No-one had a clue who he was , of all the u23s who are close to 
> a call up , this was a new one on us all - Oriel Rey, fair enough, Ousim 
> Bouy, at least we have heard of him, Madger Gomes , OK crap but he has played 
> before, or even Jack Clarke or Sam Dalby etc but Callum Nicell , no idea, and 
> no reason as to why he got the nod. 
> Whatever we made our way to the ground along with 30, ooo other fans, OK a 
> drop of 5,000 from Bolton game but this lot all had to pay for their ticketSo 
> at home v the joint bottom team in the League , a team who have won 6 games 
> out of 40 and have a minus 29 goal difference. Fair enough they were playing 
> to stay up and we were playing because we have a few more games before we go 
> on our holidays - what could go wrong ?In some ways it was not a bad game, 
> insomuch as there was lots of incident and chances at both ends - a good game 
> for the neutral if you could be bothered and did not care about skill , class 
> or football abilityIt is hard to recall which team did what and when (I had a 
> lot to drink and a lot of  meds, more so than normal) but they hit the post 
> and the bar, we (Saiz) hit the bar with a free kick, and both keepers made a 
> few decent saves and both team missed chances, so in a way this could have 
> been 3 or 4 each. 
> We started brightly and it was soon clear why they are being relegated - 
> Vieira (getting back on form) went close with a decent shot and then Pablo 
> sent a great shot whizzing past the far post .At the other end BPF, looking 
> more and more like a decent keeper made a couple of saves and got lucky when 
> their lad missed a free headerAt half time we went off to a reasonable 
> reception and we all thought it was only a matter of time. I also told those 
> near me that the first goal would be the key - whoever got it would winI have 
> no idea what was said at half time, probably 'keep going and it will come' 
> from Heck - 'they are shit, get attacking them' from Coleman. Whatever the 
> case they started the half as if they meant business and got us on the back 
> foot, then after less than 5 minutes a cross into the box, their stiker made 
> a run in front of the defenders and lashed it high into the net from a tight 
> angle -a good finish and even though it meant BPF was beaten at his near post 
> , he had no chanceThis was the confidence boost they needed and we were 
> rocked 
> They had a couple more chances to put it beyond doubt but BPF stood tall and 
> made a couple of decent saves as we got out act together and Saiz and 
> Hernandez showed their classSaiz was part of a lovely move that ripped them 
> open but Saiz's shot was well saved. Then Saiz fed a great ball into Pablo 
> who took a touch, sent the defenders one way and placed it with style into 
> the corner - 1 1 
> A thunderous free kick that hit the bar from Saiz and a great cross that did 
> not quite get to Alioski stopped us getting the winner.Then as the clock was 
> ticking down and a draw was looking inevitable Berardi was nutmegged on the 
> half way line by the touchline, no way was the lad going to do that and get 
> past him as Berardi dived in. Ref thought it was worse than we did and went 
> for his red ( from my spot nothing like as bad as the foul on Lassaggo at 
> Fulham)That left us with a man short and with 5 minutes added on- we survived 
> but only just as BPF was called into action on a few occasions in this 5 mins 
> including one great tip over the bar, and so a game we should and could have 
> won (or lost) ended up with a draw, no use to them in their fight against 
> relegation and not much use to us with only 2 games leftON the plus side, 
> Pablo again showed class and is worth a new contract, Vieira is getting his 
> mojo back and will be a good player next season, BPF is looking like he may 
> just be good enough to be number 1 next season, Paudie O'Connor played well 
> enough to keep his place for the rest of the sea

Re: [LU] Monaco

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

 I think it's a valid point Nick, I'm not convinced by BFP but he's a young lad 
and deserves his chance. He made 3 great saves but as you say he doesn't look 
confident on crosses and corners. 
a few hungover points from me. 
Fletcher got a point blank header against the bar , he was completely unmarked 
and this just happens every game now, we have definitely taken a big step 
backwards this year in our defensive approach. 
Sunderland played with 2 tricky wingers who looked like world beaters up 
against Dallas and Beradi, neither could cope. Dallas played as a wing back and 
got into several good positions but just about every time he failed to deliver 
with his cross. He is a very average player and I would be looking to offload 
him this Summer. 
I thought we shaded the first half and the second half could have gone either 
way. It was a game of mistakes and poor play but this did lead to end to end 
stuff and chances at both ends. We hit the bar twice second half, Siaz wuth a 
great free-kick and Allioski with a header that was easier to score from a 
great cross from Pablo who was showing Dallas how to do it. Pablo was everyway 
but it's clear that if he doesn't score or create a wonder goal then we're 
struggling. Siaz looked heavy legged to me and he kept losing the ball in 
possession however he did have one good run and shot that their keeper saved 
well. 
So on to Beradi who got himself sent off for the 3rd time this season and I 
thought back to his debut when he made a similar challenge in a similar place 
on the pitch and it would seem to me that this lad doens't have a footballing 
brain and he really is playing the wrong sport. I'm watching a bare knuckle 
boxing series on Netflix at the moment and I think he should have a go at that. 
I'm a bit fed up of the 'Beradi is committed' line now because he is just 
losing us points. 
Down to 10 men at home against the bottom of the league , Hecky sures up the 
defence and takes Siaz off  (Anita on) who had just hit the bar and he told the 
team to sit back, time waste and hold on to the 1-1 draw. Complete negativity.  
I would have left it as it is, pushed Jansson up front and piled forwards for 
the winner. If they broke and scored, so fucking what ? 1-1 feels like a defeat 
anyway, do you think a defeat would be viewed any worse that 1-1 against the 
bottom of the league. For me, that's a manager who is feeling the pressure but 
a 1-1 today aint gonna relieve it ! 
On another day, we could have won 4-1 but then you could say it could have een 
1-4. I think my overall summary would be that as a team we're not that much 
better than Sunderland who have proved themselves as the worst team in the 
league this season. 
Scores:
BFP - 7. Three excellent saves but looks nervous on set pieces and I actually 
think he could have done better with their goal despite it being hit hard. 
Beradi - 4. I thought he struggled throughout and his tackle was just 
brainless. That's his season over now. 
Dallas - 5. As I said, got himself up and down but failed to deliver. Also he 
is not even close to being a right back. 
Jansson - 6. Some decent defending but also some desperate defending and as the 
main defender I have to ask what is going on with all the free headers that the 
opposition seem to be getting. 
O'Connor - 6. For a debut I thought he did really well. He looks like he's got 
a chance. His weakness seemed to be when he got caught one on one a few times 
and he seemed a bit slow on the back foot, but apart from that I was fairly 
impressed. O'Shaughnessy also looked good on his debut in this position and 
quickly turned to shit so let's see how he fairs against Villa and Preston. 
Philips - 3. Having praised him for his second half sub's performance at Fulham 
, he was back to his awful worst yesterday. Pedestrian pace and getting outrun 
and out muscled in midfield by journeymen midfielders. When he did find himself 
in possession his passes were long and overhit. Total frustration watching him 
yesterday. 
Vierra - 6. Battled hard, unlucky with his chance first half and in general 
looking a bit like the old Vierra. 
Allioski - 5. Worked hard, ran hard but delivered very little and should have 
scored.
Lasogga - 0. I cant really remember a single contribution from Lasogga. It was 
clear to me from about the 15 minutes that he is not mobile enough or quick 
enough to create space or chances for us. He just looks like a lard boy , 
puffing and panting around the pitch. I would have put Ekuban on much earlier. 
Hernandez - 8. One man team at times and scored yet another goal from nothing. 
He still frustrates me with stray passes every 1 in 3 times but given his 
contribution this has to be overlooked. 
Siaz - 6. For his high standards I thought he was poor yesterday. Didn't seem 
to have that pace and acceleration when he needed it. Lost possession numerous 
times but he still nearly came up with the winner. 
Subs:
Ekuban - saw more of the ball than