Re: [LU] Take it on the chin!

2019-02-02 Thread Alec
Bielsa has so far made a silk purse out of the proverbial sows ear. We have 
surprised many teams this year with the speed and pressing. But I think we may 
have been a little bit found out. 

The key is whether Bielsa really is a one trick pony, and even if he is, is his 
one trick good enough for us with a current 7 point lead over 3rd. 

Personal view: I think we will be caught and we will end in 3rd or 4th (which 
is still very creditable given the squad we have). 

Who knows what could happen in the playoffs. Anything could happen, even us 
winning it. 
Cheers
A

> On 3 Feb 2019, at 8:30 am, Ted  wrote:
> 
> Bang on John.
> 
> Why can't it be easy for us, we've waited s long! 😉
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, 20:13 John Lee via Leedslist  wrote:
> 
>> Yep, utterly outplayed, and whilst the possession stats will favour us at
>> times, at no time did we look like winners. Mistake no 1 was leaving
>> Phillips on the bench - the gaping hole in front of the back 4 was an
>> invitation to push us back, and meant the backline had to play it out,
>> which they did in a very panicky fashion. Mistake no 2 was not playing
>> Douglas and Alioski as 3 and 11 from the start, although it has to be said
>> that when Douglas did come on he was way off the pace! It didn’t help that
>> Hernandez had his worst 45 minutes for a long time, or Ayling’s insistence
>> on passing to the opposition!
>> 
>> It’s pointless panicking now, but today it was men against boys, and the
>> boys won. I felt sorry for Clarke too - he’s not the messiah and the weight
>> of expectation on him is too much.
>> 
>> And the bloody Rhinos got dicked as well! Not a good day for Leeds!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 2 Feb 2019, at 19:25, David Smail  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Fair play to Norwich - weren't they excellent? Forced us into errors,
>>> mistakes, conceding free kicks and a mild sense of panic. They seemed to
>> win
>>> 90% second ball. MB out done on this one. Good spells of possession, but
>> no
>>> cutting edge and  leading to very little. MB declares he won't change our
>>> style of play - no plan B - this was clear tonight.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [LU] Norwich - a few thoughts

2019-02-02 Thread Richard Naef
100% Dave.  It's a fantastic season, it might end in disappointment, in which 
case we aren’t ready for promotion.  Heresy I know, but another season in the 
Championship building the team might not be a bad idea.  



ttfn

Richard

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Subject: [LU] Norwich - a few thoughts

Just got home so have not seen anything on TV or read any reports so here are a 
few thoughts from watching it live A great atmosphere to start with but that 
soon died and apart from a brilliant whole ground Waccoe at two down the fans 
were poor today. The number who left as their 3rd went in was nothing short of 
disgraceful and the general mood around me was 'F off, good riddance, and dont 
come back' if you could not even bother staying to the end just because we had 
lost !
Game started Ok but a 'foul' (not convinced it was a foul but a tackle from 
behind is always dodgy) gave them a free kick on the edge of the box and a 
wicked deflection put them a goal up. After that they were a horrible team - 
plenty of time wasting and one blatant dive and one rolliing around holding his 
face incident should have led to two yellow cards Then the keeper was lucky not 
to see a red when he came out and clattered Roberts, plus we had a good shout 
for a penalty for a foul on Pontus.
We huffed and puffed a bit and looked decent enough but every 50/50 decision 
and loose ball and every bit of luck went their way and that culminated in a 
terrible mistake by Forshaw that enabled them to get 2 up A couple of changes 
at half time showed we were going for it, the ineffectual Harrison and the out 
of sorts (? not fully fit ) Hernandez being replace by Clarke and Douglas, We 
had a few chances to pull one back , a great cross along the six yard box was 
well defended, our one decent shot on target was well saved and a good free 
kick was headed wide by Ayling. They continued to pick up all the pieces and 
win 50/50s so perhaps it was due to good play rather than luck Then a quick 
break, another deflected shot and 3 0 game over - cue mass exodus - the players 
tonight and over the season so far deserved better Bamford came on , scored 
with a good back header but too little too late - albeit it led fans to 
(wrongly) sing we are top of the league -they too stupid to understand goal 
difference ?
So an average performance led to a very poor result - made a bit better by the 
fact that West Brom had lost at home to Boro earlier on . Our recent form is 
not great and we are in danger of messing it all up, despite some fans trying 
to lighten the mood at the bus stop etc by declaring we are joint top The fact 
that Bamford was on the bench and even better scored, is the only real bright 
spot from the game (Clarke did impress again as an impact sub) As I say, anyone 
who has seen the game on TV before or since may dispute a lot of my 'facts' but 
I am just saying it as I saw it Need to at least avoid defeat next week at Boro 
and then beat Swansea to stop this season going down the tubes Dan James would 
not have made a difference to the result Too soon to panic and whatever the 
next 16 games bring this has been a great season Dave(pissed up and a bit 
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[LU] Norwich - a few thoughts

2019-02-02 Thread nat...@sky.com
Just got home so have not seen anything on TV or read any reports so here are a 
few thoughts from watching it live
A great atmosphere to start with but that soon died and apart from a brilliant 
whole ground Waccoe at two down the fans were poor today. The number who left 
as their 3rd went in was nothing short of disgraceful and the general mood 
around me was 'F off, good riddance, and dont come back' if you could not even 
bother staying to the end just because we had lost !
Game started Ok but a 'foul' (not convinced it was a foul but a tackle from 
behind is always dodgy) gave them a free kick on the edge of the box and a 
wicked deflection put them a goal up. After that they were a horrible team - 
plenty of time wasting and one blatant dive and one rolliing around holding his 
face incident should have led to two yellow cards
Then the keeper was lucky not to see a red when he came out and clattered 
Roberts, plus we had a good shout for a penalty for a foul on Pontus.
We huffed and puffed a bit and looked decent enough but every 50/50 decision 
and loose ball and every bit of luck went their way and that culminated in a 
terrible mistake by Forshaw that enabled them to get 2 up
A couple of changes at half time showed we were going for it, the ineffectual 
Harrison and the out of sorts (? not fully fit ) Hernandez being replace by 
Clarke and Douglas,
We had a few chances to pull one back , a great cross along the six yard box 
was well defended, our one decent shot on target was well saved and a good free 
kick was headed wide by Ayling. They continued to pick up all the pieces and 
win 50/50s so perhaps it was due to good play rather than luck
Then a quick break, another deflected shot and 3 0 game over - cue mass exodus 
- the players tonight and over the season so far deserved better
Bamford came on , scored with a good back header but too little too late - 
albeit it led fans to (wrongly) sing we are top of the league -they too stupid 
to understand goal difference ?
So an average performance led to a very poor result - made a bit better by the 
fact that West Brom had lost at home to Boro earlier on . Our recent form is 
not great and we are in danger of messing it all up, despite some fans trying 
to lighten the mood at the bus stop etc by declaring we are joint top
The fact that Bamford was on the bench and even better scored, is the only real 
bright spot from the game (Clarke did impress again as an impact sub)
As I say, anyone who has seen the game on TV before or since may dispute a lot 
of my 'facts' but I am just saying it as I saw it
Need to at least avoid defeat next week at Boro and then beat Swansea to stop 
this season going down the tubes
Dan James would not have made a difference to the result
Too soon to panic and whatever the next 16 games bring this has been a great 
season 
Dave(pissed up and a bit pissed off)
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Re: [LU] Take it on the chin!

2019-02-02 Thread Ted
Bang on John.

Why can't it be easy for us, we've waited s long! 😉



On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, 20:13 John Lee via Leedslist  Yep, utterly outplayed, and whilst the possession stats will favour us at
> times, at no time did we look like winners. Mistake no 1 was leaving
> Phillips on the bench - the gaping hole in front of the back 4 was an
> invitation to push us back, and meant the backline had to play it out,
> which they did in a very panicky fashion. Mistake no 2 was not playing
> Douglas and Alioski as 3 and 11 from the start, although it has to be said
> that when Douglas did come on he was way off the pace! It didn’t help that
> Hernandez had his worst 45 minutes for a long time, or Ayling’s insistence
> on passing to the opposition!
>
> It’s pointless panicking now, but today it was men against boys, and the
> boys won. I felt sorry for Clarke too - he’s not the messiah and the weight
> of expectation on him is too much.
>
> And the bloody Rhinos got dicked as well! Not a good day for Leeds!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 2 Feb 2019, at 19:25, David Smail  wrote:
> >
> > Fair play to Norwich - weren't they excellent? Forced us into errors,
> > mistakes, conceding free kicks and a mild sense of panic. They seemed to
> win
> > 90% second ball. MB out done on this one. Good spells of possession, but
> no
> > cutting edge and  leading to very little. MB declares he won't change our
> > style of play - no plan B - this was clear tonight.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [LU] Norwich

2019-02-02 Thread John Lee via Leedslist
5 hours in the pub after it might be a better idea Ted :-(

Sent from my iPad

> On 2 Feb 2019, at 10:58, Ted  wrote:
> 
> Yes - after years of mostly sh1te, I'm on the train to Leeds now, really
> looking forward to it! Can't wait. Mind you, not sure 5 hours in the pub
> beforehand is a good idea!
> 
> 2-1
> 
> Ted H
> 
>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, 10:42 nat...@sky.com > 
>> Well the excitement levels are rising !TO be going to such a massive game
>> in FEBRUARY is amazing given our recent history
>> It is not a must win or even a must not lose, it is just one of 3 masssive
>> games and one of 17 huge games - no single game will define our season (or
>> certainly not at this stage) but today is MASSIVE - win and we really can
>> start to believe, a defeat and the naysayers will be out, slagging Radz off
>> for only bringing in a keeper in Jan, and even MB for being so stubborn
>> Whatever, come on LEEDS, today is the day
>> Dave
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Re: [LU] Take it on the chin!

2019-02-02 Thread John Lee via Leedslist
Yep, utterly outplayed, and whilst the possession stats will favour us at 
times, at no time did we look like winners. Mistake no 1 was leaving Phillips 
on the bench - the gaping hole in front of the back 4 was an invitation to push 
us back, and meant the backline had to play it out, which they did in a very 
panicky fashion. Mistake no 2 was not playing Douglas and Alioski as 3 and 11 
from the start, although it has to be said that when Douglas did come on he was 
way off the pace! It didn’t help that Hernandez had his worst 45 minutes for a 
long time, or Ayling’s insistence on passing to the opposition!

It’s pointless panicking now, but today it was men against boys, and the boys 
won. I felt sorry for Clarke too - he’s not the messiah and the weight of 
expectation on him is too much.

And the bloody Rhinos got dicked as well! Not a good day for Leeds!

Sent from my iPad

> On 2 Feb 2019, at 19:25, David Smail  wrote:
> 
> Fair play to Norwich - weren't they excellent? Forced us into errors,
> mistakes, conceding free kicks and a mild sense of panic. They seemed to win
> 90% second ball. MB out done on this one. Good spells of possession, but no
> cutting edge and  leading to very little. MB declares he won't change our
> style of play - no plan B - this was clear tonight. 
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[LU] Take it on the chin!

2019-02-02 Thread David Smail
Fair play to Norwich - weren't they excellent? Forced us into errors,
mistakes, conceding free kicks and a mild sense of panic. They seemed to win
90% second ball. MB out done on this one. Good spells of possession, but no
cutting edge and  leading to very little. MB declares he won't change our
style of play - no plan B - this was clear tonight. 

 

Dave

 

 

 

 

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Re: [LU] Tweet from Leeds United (@LUFC)

2019-02-02 Thread Nicholas Armit via Leedslist
 Thanks! 
On Saturday, February 2, 2019, 10:44:29 AM EST, Roy Blackwell via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 Leeds United (@LUFC) tweeted at 3:16 pm on Sat, Feb 02, 2019:
📰 | Full time in today’s #LUFC U23s game against Birmingham, which ends
2-2. Izzy Brown with a 96th minute equaliser, with Jordan Stevens also on
the scoresheet for The Whites https://t.co/u5o2GVAtVd
(https://twitter.com/LUFC/status/1091717025087582208?s=03)

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[LU] Tweet from Leeds United (@LUFC)

2019-02-02 Thread Roy Blackwell via Leedslist
Leeds United (@LUFC) tweeted at 3:16 pm on Sat, Feb 02, 2019:
📰 | Full time in today’s #LUFC U23s game against Birmingham, which ends
2-2. Izzy Brown with a 96th minute equaliser, with Jordan Stevens also on
the scoresheet for The Whites https://t.co/u5o2GVAtVd
(https://twitter.com/LUFC/status/1091717025087582208?s=03)

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Re: [LU] U-23s

2019-02-02 Thread Roy Blackwell via Leedslist
No finished 2-2
Izzy Brown scored

From what i saw on twitter

On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, 15:13 Nicholas Armit via Leedslist  Did it get called off this morning?
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[LU] U-23s

2019-02-02 Thread Nicholas Armit via Leedslist
Did it get called off this morning?
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Re: [LU] Norwich

2019-02-02 Thread Graham White via Leedslist
Always preferred the Queens Head across the road, is it still going?

I'll be watching it in Mulligans Irish Bar*, sadly we'll be stuck in some 
corner as all the big screens will be showing the egg chasers.

*Surprisingly for Spain it actually is Irish!  Roisin and Audrey are from 
Dublin, although Audrey's partner Chris is from York (and supports the bloody 
Barcodes).

MOT

Graham White
 

On Saturday, 2 February 2019, 12:36:36 CET, John Boocock  
wrote:  
 
 Just stopped at Scotch Corner before hitting Leeds. No ticket for me so 
it is the King's Arms in Horsforth at 5:30 :-(

I think it will be mental in town tonight when we win!

Betty

On 02/02/2019 11:19, nat...@sky.com wrote:
> Yes the extra couple of hours drinking could be messy (although to be
> honest I am getting in Leeds at 1.30 for 5.30 kick off as opposed to
> my usual 11.45 for a 3pm one so only an extra 1hour + for me Hopefully
> the extra drinking and the fact that it will be under floodlights and
> a huge sell out crowd will lead to a good atmosphere- we need to keep
> the faith and keep behind them whatever happens .
> I hope the 'hoof it' 'get rid' brigade will now have been to enough
> games to realise we do not play that way this season - OK it is hearts
> in mouths time when we have the ball in our own area but overall it
> has worked
> We need to get right into them from the start as per Derby and not let
> them settle - I can see this game being played at 100mph from start to
> finish and may the best team win (as long as that is us!!)
> Dave
>    On Saturday, 2 February 2019, 10:59:11 GMT, Ted
>  wrote:
> 
>  Yes - after years of mostly sh1te, I'm on the train to Leeds now,
> really looking forward to it! Can't wait. Mind you, not sure 5 hours
> in the pub beforehand is a good idea!
> 2-1
> Ted H
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, 10:42 nat...@sky.com  
> Well the excitement levels are rising !TO be going to such a massive
> game in FEBRUARY is amazing given our recent history
> It is not a must win or even a must not lose, it is just one of 3
> masssive games and one of 17 huge games - no single game will define
> our season (or certainly not at this stage) but today is MASSIVE - win
> and we really can start to believe, a defeat and the naysayers will be
> out, slagging Radz off for only bringing in a keeper in Jan, and even
> MB for being so stubborn
> Whatever, come on LEEDS, today is the day
> Dave
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Re: [LU] Norwich

2019-02-02 Thread John Boocock
Just stopped at Scotch Corner before hitting Leeds. No ticket for me so 
it is the King's Arms in Horsforth at 5:30 :-(


I think it will be mental in town tonight when we win!

Betty

On 02/02/2019 11:19, nat...@sky.com wrote:

Yes the extra couple of hours drinking could be messy (although to be
honest I am getting in Leeds at 1.30 for 5.30 kick off as opposed to
my usual 11.45 for a 3pm one so only an extra 1hour + for me Hopefully
the extra drinking and the fact that it will be under floodlights and
a huge sell out crowd will lead to a good atmosphere- we need to keep
the faith and keep behind them whatever happens .
I hope the 'hoof it' 'get rid' brigade will now have been to enough
games to realise we do not play that way this season - OK it is hearts
in mouths time when we have the ball in our own area but overall it
has worked
We need to get right into them from the start as per Derby and not let
them settle - I can see this game being played at 100mph from start to
finish and may the best team win (as long as that is us!!)
Dave
On Saturday, 2 February 2019, 10:59:11 GMT, Ted
 wrote:

 Yes - after years of mostly sh1te, I'm on the train to Leeds now,
really looking forward to it! Can't wait. Mind you, not sure 5 hours
in the pub beforehand is a good idea!
2-1
Ted H
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Re: [LU] Norwich

2019-02-02 Thread nat...@sky.com
 Yes the extra couple of hours drinking could be messy (although to be honest I 
am getting in Leeds at 1.30 for 5.30 kick off as opposed to my usual 11.45 for 
a 3pm one so only an extra 1hour + for me Hopefully the extra drinking and the 
fact that it will be under floodlights and a huge sell out crowd will lead to a 
good atmosphere- we need to keep the faith and keep behind them whatever 
happens .
I hope the 'hoof it' 'get rid' brigade will now have been to enough games to 
realise we do not play that way this season - OK it is hearts in mouths time 
when we have the ball in our own area but overall it has worked
We need to get right into them from the start as per Derby and not let them 
settle - I can see this game being played at 100mph from start to finish and 
may the best team win (as long as that is us!!)
Dave
On Saturday, 2 February 2019, 10:59:11 GMT, Ted  
wrote:  
 
 Yes - after years of mostly sh1te, I'm on the train to Leeds now, really 
looking forward to it! Can't wait. Mind you, not sure 5 hours in the pub 
beforehand is a good idea!
2-1
Ted H
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Re: [LU] Norwich

2019-02-02 Thread Ted
Yes - after years of mostly sh1te, I'm on the train to Leeds now, really
looking forward to it! Can't wait. Mind you, not sure 5 hours in the pub
beforehand is a good idea!

2-1

Ted H

On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, 10:42 nat...@sky.com  Well the excitement levels are rising !TO be going to such a massive game
> in FEBRUARY is amazing given our recent history
> It is not a must win or even a must not lose, it is just one of 3 masssive
> games and one of 17 huge games - no single game will define our season (or
> certainly not at this stage) but today is MASSIVE - win and we really can
> start to believe, a defeat and the naysayers will be out, slagging Radz off
> for only bringing in a keeper in Jan, and even MB for being so stubborn
> Whatever, come on LEEDS, today is the day
> Dave
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[LU] Norwich

2019-02-02 Thread nat...@sky.com
Well the excitement levels are rising !TO be going to such a massive game in 
FEBRUARY is amazing given our recent history
It is not a must win or even a must not lose, it is just one of 3 masssive 
games and one of 17 huge games - no single game will define our season (or 
certainly not at this stage) but today is MASSIVE - win and we really can start 
to believe, a defeat and the naysayers will be out, slagging Radz off for only 
bringing in a keeper in Jan, and even MB for being so stubborn
Whatever, come on LEEDS, today is the day
Dave
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