Re: [LU] 32 years ago today...

[Nigel Sykes]

   I probably remember it more than most. I listened to it with a ghetto
   blaster on my shoulder while walking on the beach, it being the day
   after I got married! Still not sure all my Leeds supporting mates have
   forgiven me for making them be in Ireland that weekend.

   Nigel

   (the Dublin one)

   Sent from [1]Outlook for Android

References

   1. https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg
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Re: [LU] VPN

[Nigel Sykes]

   Yes, it's possible. I use France and IPVanish.

   Nigel

   (The Dublin one)

   Envoyé de mon mobile
   Sent from [1]Outlook for Android

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Re: [LU] Streams?

[Nigel Sykes]

   I always use vipboxtv.se. You have to put up with it launching crap on
   new tabs half the time you click anything, but if you just ignore them
   or close them and keep trying, eventually you get a decent stream.

   Nigel

   (the Dublin one)

   EnvoyA(c) de mon Samsung Galaxy S10e Orange
   Get [1]Outlook for Android

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Re: [LU] WBA

[Nigel Sykes]

My worst was probably midweek away at Plymouth in the 89/90 season.  All that 
way, time off work, and a 0-0 draw so dull that the only memorable thing was us 
Leeds fans singing Marching On Together like a slowed-down record, to show how 
turgid it all was.

Nigel 
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Graham White 
via Leedslist
Sent: 02 March 2019 14:50
To: Ted; Ian Murray
Cc: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] WBA

Well games like that do make up for some of the dross I've seen over the years.

I think the worst game involving Leeds that I've ever seen was an absolutely 
dire 0-0 draw against Derby County in front of about 15K bored, freezing 
spectators in which the most exciting action was the kick off.  This was in the 
1988/9 season I think.  It was also the first and, not uncoincidentally, the 
last game I ever took my then girlfriend to.

Graham White

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[LU] Wow

[Nigel Sykes]

Unbelievable difference tonight.

Did you hear the dozy bollox co-commentator say that West Brom were the best
equipped of the top 4 to finish in the top 2?  While they were being killed
3-0 at the time?  God, the idiots they get on all hate us.

 

Nigel

(the Dublin one)

 

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Re: [LU] sad news - I used to watch the videos (even linked them on here for goals)

[Nigel Sykes]

That's very sad news Dave.  Condolences to all your family.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
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nat...@sky.com
Sent: 17 February 2019 21:41
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] sad news - I used to watch the videos (even linked them on here 
for goals)

It's with a heavy heavy heart I have to announce the passing of my Dad aka 'MR 
#WALMOT'. My dad took great pleasure in making vids for all the #LUFC family, 
whether it was here, insta or FB. I just hope the boys can do my Dad proud and 
finish what they've started

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Re: [LU] Baker?

[Nigel Sykes]

This should at least shut up the BPF hating faction for a while.  He's been 
outstanding so far today.  Though I did read that people were having a go at 
him on Twatter for not saving the penalty!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

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Re: [LU] Team v QPR.

[Nigel Sykes]

It is on TV abroad.  So no doubt available to be picked up online somewhere...

https://www.livesoccertv.com/match/3188698/queens-park-rangers-vs-leeds-united/

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
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Sent: 04 January 2019 19:29
To: Matt Anderson
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Team v QPR.

Why is the team announced 2 days before the game? Is it on tv being Sunday?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [LU] Villa - what a f**ing result and deserved

[Nigel Sykes]

That's right made my Christmas has that!

Still think we need some signings though, cos no matter how much of a silk 
purse Bielsa's witchcraft is making, there are surely better players out there 
than some of our depleted squad.

I'm cheered by this "in the last 10 seasons the team who's top at Christmas has 
always gone up automatically" stat too...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 23 December 2018 15:30
To: Leeds List; Richard Walker
Subject: Re: [LU] Villa - what a f**ing result and deserved

 To have 8 , yes 8 first team squad players out (cooper, Bamford, Douglas, 
Dallas, Roberts , Pearce, Brown and Berardi) another teenager making his debut 
(Davies) 2 down at half time and yet we go on to win 3-2 just unbelievable - 
Bielsa really is a footballing geniusPontus man of match, but heroes all round 
and what a great finish by Roofe to win itClarke will be a superstar. Never say 
die and really go for it - great to watch as wellNot even going to mention the 
2 penalties we should have had !
Merry Christmas to all
On Sunday, 23 December 2018, 14:25:58 GMT, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 2 down but I think we've been the better team despite not playing well. 
Forshaw and Hernandez must have been at the boxing last night because their 
passing as been terrible. Hernandez really annoys me when he plays like this. 
Just simple balls played so lazily and inaccurately. This is why he is not 
playing in the PL.

They've got 2 guys up front who are probably the best strikers in the league 
and we've got a makeshift defence. Don't tell me that we didn't need some 
players in January. Philips is no central defender - just look at his 
contribution (or non-contribution) to their goal.

What has happened to Klich? He's still doing ok and he is getting into good 
positions but doesn't look like he can buy a goal. 

Harrison has done nothing surely now has to go off to be replaced by Clarke.

I think we can get back into this but it's always likely they will score again.

4-3 LEEDS.


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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Nigel Sykes]

It was certainly good to see us not look clueless again. Amazing how two 
players whom I didn't rate much last season could turn out to be so influential 
for us this one.

The real test will come this weekend though.  Cos there's no getting around the 
fact that so far, 5 of our 7 wins are against teams who're currently in the 
bottom 8!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
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nat...@sky.com
Sent: 25 October 2018 10:46
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Ipswich report

"United are back, United are back"
Well those of you who thought that we had been 'rumbled' may have to re-think 
things after a totally dominant display and a real return to the peak 
'Bielasball' last night - albeit against a very poor team who were low on 
confidence
Two slight moans - first, the crowd, whislt good in terms of numbers was as 
quiet during the first half as I can remember (practice for the Prem?) Secondly 
the fact that despite it being shooting practice at the end and almost the 
oldkids game of attack v defence we only managed 2 goals
However these two gripes are totally overshadowed by a tremendous performance, 
all made possible by the return of the magician , Pablo Hernandez, who was 
sublime and went through their back line like the proverbial knife through 
butter. He was a joy to watch and when he plays like this you wonder what he is 
doing in this Division. How we have missed him especially at home when faced 
with a team who pack the defence and come for a draw.
The other returnee, Kemar Roofe, also proved , yet again, that he is a centre 
forward not a winger, and when he is allowed to play up top he gets results, 
this time a lovely timed header when he got between the 2 defenders and met a 
brilliant cross by Pablo - the finish very similar to the goal v Derby (?) He 
buzzed around and caused them problems all evening.
Everyone played their part last night, with all 3 subs also doing well. Dallas 
showed what he can still offer something going forward and had one attempt just 
wide and one lovely run when he actually took on and beat two defenders. Pearce 
showed that he does still have a future- like the rest of us he must have 
wondered why he did not get the nod ahead of Dallas when Douglas got injured. 
Forshaw fitted into the system as if he was born into it and also went close 
with a rasping drive, he replaced the slightly subdued Saiz and kept the ball 
moving with little Batty-esque type passing and interceptions. 

We could have had a hatful with Alisoki coming closest to adding to the total 
with a great run and shot that came back from the inside of the post - he was 
another player who was back to his best last night , with a cross in the first 
half nearly causing a goal as the keeper could only parry it back into the 
danger zone.
The second goal and the one that eased all our tension off the pitch and led to 
total capitulation from Ipswich on it, was brilliant and well worked - a short 
corner came back to Pablo and his cross was superbly dummied by Phillips(?) and 
fell to Cooper who side footed it with his right from the edge of the box - yes 
League -One Liam as some call him finsihed with real skill and aplomb. That 
ended the game as a contest (if it ever was, since all  they managed was one 
easily saved header in the first half and were almost gifted a goal by Ayling 
right at the death) and it became almost a procession of us coming forward and 
having pot shots and scrambles - their keeper was their man of the match (and 
beaten only by Pablo for THE MoM)
It was a perfect response to the Blackburn defeat - a bit worrying that Berardi 
went off , presumably injured but with Bielsa, who knows it could have been 
tactical. Bielsa again used his subs wisely and excitingly making a double sub 
with over 30mins to go and no more cards to play. I love the way he re-acts to 
what is happening on the pitch - some managers seem to pre-plan the sub one 
striker for another on 60 mins every game or making no subs at all until time 
wasting at the end of a game.
With other results going our way this week - Boro being held at home by 
Rotherham and West Brom getting hammered at home by Derby means 'we are top'the 
league, say we are top'the league' - these results confirming what we already 
knew , this League is totally competitive and any result is possible in any 
match. This also elevates our performance and result last night - Man City v 
Cardiff or whoever is top and bottom of the Prem is pretty much a nailed on 
home win, that is not the case in the Championship (look at Birmingham turning 
us over when we were top and they were bottom or next to bottom) so beating 
Ipswich whilst expected was in no way a foregone conclusion and we needed to be 
at or near our best to do it, and that is what we were, back to our best
So onwards and upwards - with Forest to come Saturday evening - we will know by 
kick off what we 

Re: [LU] Preston

[Nigel Sykes]

> Watching it on the red button is crap though - one camera, no close-ups, no 
> replays, and a commentator bred in Dullsville!
> John

What's that all about?  I variously watched last night's game via either the 
LUFC stream or via the iFollow website's stream (which had the Preston 
commentators).  Booth had multi-cameras, close-ups, replays etc.  Why don't Sky 
get to use that feed?

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

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Re: [LU] Preston

[Nigel Sykes]

Yep.  Pretty much agree with all that.  Though I think that 6 for Roberts is 
generous, even with the 2 well taken goals!  He was dogshit otherwise.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 19 September 2018 07:31
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Preston

could have been 7. Apart from first 10 mins and 5 minutes in 2nd half we were 
much better team. Really good performance against a team who will be relegated 
this season.
Scores:
Peacock - 8. Not much to do.  One disallowed goal, a good early save, a few 
back pass type shots and one dodgy cross that he had to parry in first half
Ayling - 7. Shocking start where he just kept losing out but he steadied and 
played well 
Douglas - 7. Steady away - decent going forward
Cooper - 8. One dodgy pass that put us under ressure but overall great 
defending. Scored as well, really cant expect anymore from a captain and you 
have to say that he is one of the most improved players from last season. 
Jansson - 9. Rock solid defending. Back to his best
Siaz - 9. At the heart of everything. Needs a goal.
Philips - 8. One or two dodgy passes and tackles but overall I thought he was 
very impressive albeit against pedestrian opposition.
Klich - 8. Should have had 2 but overall I thought he was very impressive. He's 
strong, plays great football and is a strong runner. I think he's a great 
player. See his cross for Robert's second goal.
Allioski - 7. Lively but annoying. 
Harrison - 7. Lively first half, quiet second and should have had a goal after 
a great ball through from Siaz 
Roberts - 6. Really pleased for the lad. He took his goal well after a good 
goal from Philips and then looked like he wanted the ball. He was terrible 
first half and I would have considered taking him off but all credit to him. 
Hopefully he can kick on against Brum.
Subs - not on long.



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Re: [LU] Telly Stuff

[Nigel Sykes]

Great tip Betty!  Having just arrived in France to find the handset on our
satellite box had stopped working (so I would be unable to retune it to
include Quest), I was wondering how I was going to watch the highlights.

Problem solved!

Nigel
(the Dublin/France one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John
Boocock
Sent: 25 August 2018 22:14
To: Leedslist
Subject: [LU] Telly Stuff

Just realised that the EFL show is not only on Quest HD free view (114 
as opposed to shit view 37) but it's on the web (www.questod.co.uk) and 
there's an android app and an iOS app. I watched today's goals under a 
deep midnight blue, moonlit sky with a bottle of white (natch) on my 
tablet up the back yard. Get tunneling comrades. Foxtrot Oscar Lineker

Betty
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Re: [LU] Bielsa

[Nigel Sykes]

I hear what you're saying, but it's my opinion that a good team will always 
impose their style of play on the opposition. Sure, they may tinker with minor 
aspects, or a player or two here and there, but they should generally do what 
they do and let the opposition worry about them.  Going into each game thinking 
about how to combat the opposition strengths more than how to impose your own 
is what weak teams do.  I don't think teams win championships doing that.

So I for one applaud Bielsa's attitude.  I think it is what got us a draw the 
other night, and I think it will instil a belief in the team that they can get 
results, home or away.

I do agree though that he needs to find a way to keep the team playing the way 
he wants them to without relying so much on Saiz.  Because shutting him down 
(and frustrating him in the process, so he gets petulant and booked etc.) was 
what caused us the most problems last year, and without him operating freely we 
will struggle to be as effective.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 24 August 2018 11:30
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Bielsa

I remember posting a while back questioning how MB will cope if and when other 
teams suss us out - I suggested that he would have a Plan B, C and even D - 
from his presser yesterday this clearly is not the case
He has one Plan - Plan A and if that is not working he will tinker with 
personnel etc until it does - he will not be changing the way we play.
Not sure I 100% agree with this Crespo story - I (as a parent and cub leader) 
see nothing wrong with telling a youngster something that is not true if it 
helps them in their development etc - surely part of being a manager is knowing 
when to 'big someone up and when to pull them down a peg or two' - instilling 
belief is not a bad thing even if you have to lie / exaggerate a bit)

I do get the meaning behind the story - a manager cannot tell a team how to 
play and tell them this is the best way and then change it when the game is 
going against them -but I am  not sure he is correct, surely there is an 
argument for 'horses for courses' and on occasion adapting your method to cope 
with the opposition ?

I do  have faith in MB and to be honest the early games have been great to 
watch , even Swansea when we never really hit the heights was excellent at 
times but I worry what will happen  if we cannot impose our style on other 
teams .
Various things went wrong last season - having a rubbish keeper and the defence 
losing confidence in him, injury to ayling, Saiz being banned, not having a 
reliable goal scorer etc BUT one of the main things was being 'found out'/ 
being bullied by the likes of Millwall and Cardiff - will this side be able to 
stand up to teams like that ? Coming from behind twice at Swansea is a good 
start but it is very early days
Anyway lets hope we can continue our early season form - Norwich away and 
Middlesboro at home are both difficult games (not that many look easy on paper 
in this Division) - so 4 or 6 points would be amazing.
I expected us to have 4* or 5 points rather than the 10 we have so it has been 
a great start  (fancied a point v Stoke with it being first game at home v a 
relegated team, 0pts at Derby, 3 at home to Rotherham, and 0 or maybe 1 v 
Swansea)
Dave
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Re: [LU] Norwich v Leeds

[Nigel Sykes]

Yep - on all the usual international channels (beIN etc.)

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Guy
Thornton
Sent: 23 August 2018 21:01
To: Leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Norwich v Leeds

I know the game is at 15.00 BST on Saturday, the traditional time for
footie, and neither Sky or BT 
are showing it but I gather the game has been selected as the Championship
match for 
international broadcasting.

No idea what stations or channels will be showing it but can anyone confirm
this is the case?

guy
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Re: [LU] Kids

[Nigel Sykes]

I dropped into 2 WorldNets - Leicester (where my car was broken into outside
the park) and the one near Adel in Leeds.

Still got my Lards team shirt in the wardrobe too...

Nigel
(the Dublin one).

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Adams
Sent: 23 August 2018 13:21
To: Damian Walsh; LEEDSLIST
Subject: Re: [LU] Kids

And I still look back fondly at Damian's booze and charcuterie table that
seemed to appear pitchside before every Lards game at WorldNet! Does
WorldNet still exist? The two that I attended still loom large in my memory
as weekends of great fun with a bunch of people I had only just met but felt
like I had known for years! Both events were probably the one and only time
I met a lot of listers, Betty, Damian, Maggie Barber, Voicey, Adie Turford,
the tall skinny Asian kid who was a decent striker, King of Tonga, Prince of
Tonga, some Scandi bloke who came back to London with a few of us and ended
up staying at my house because he didn't have anywhere to stay before his
flight home the next day. I might even have met Thirkers at one of them as
well.


Jeremy


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Damian Walsh

Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 1:09:40 AM
To: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Kids

What a thread to welcome us out of hibernation along with the green shoots
of the Bielsa revival :)..

1996 - had 2, now 5. They are all Leeds supporters though some a bit more
vaguely than others.

The eldest 2 have been to Elland Road but it was a traumatic match - the 1
- 0 defeat to Fulham under O' Dreary which (for me anyway) marked a
tangible starting point to our subsequent decline - so none of us have been
back since. In any case, the five year old just wanted to fight the Fulham
fans after they scored and as she's in her twenties now she'd get arrested.
She does live in Leeds though at the moment, being a post-grad student at
whatever they call Leeds Met nowadays.

Congratulations to the new father BTW!

Damian



On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Neil Hackett  wrote:

> Joined around 1999.
>
> Now have a 12 year old boy. I tried him at football but he prefers rugby,
> and is a solid scrum half. No real interest in Leeds.
>
> And an 11 year old girl. A good centre mid but she much prefers, and does
> better at (ice hockey).
> My God we are all old.
>
> Just to aggravate you all...
>
> I watched the second half of the Swansea game and thought we did well. We
> forced them into countless turnovers. That is how you score against an
> organized team.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 22, 2018, at 9:40 AM, Øystein Bjøndal Lund 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Is it really that long time ago?
> >
> > Put in other words; am I really that old?
> >
> > Unfortunately, yes. It also means we have been out of the top flight for
> a man-age or something …
> >
> >
> >
> > I joined the list “a few days” (it must have been) after the t-shirt… at
> the time of vax.ox something. My company had the email system on a
> mainframe the time as well, and how I found the list I have no idea.
> >
> > Some of the highlights include walking around studying the Yorkshire
> house architecture with Betty, on our way to a Leeds ladies game, mind. We
> eventually got there, as well, to see some of it.
> >
> > And there were this ascii map (look it up!) to go from Derby train
> station to my first ever list meet at Brunswick (how come I still remember
> these things, my oldest son was transported in a buggy - was seated on my
> lap - and at Elland Road some days later he was not allowed to the lap, or
> at lest had to buy a seat for him, that he could not use, was too little…)
> >
> > There are a plenty full of more highlights, and even more memories…
> >
> > This son, Torleif, came on a tour with me to see us vs Luton together
> with 27 136 others, March 2007, he was then 11… Meaning we were already on
> our way down at the time. Also meaning he is now 22, and couldn’t care
less
> about football nor Leeds United. He is only member of the LUSC of
> Scandinavia because I pay, and did in all these years…
> >
> > His 3 years younger brother, is also still a LUSCOS member for the same
> reason, but he even never wanted to come over with me to attend a game
(!)…
> >
> > Neither of them are interested in any footy side, not in any footy
> competition, etc. I wonder where did I go wrong? (At least they don’t
> support the foe)
> >
> > I have been over from time to time, but not as frequent as from 1995 and
> the more or less 10 next years…
> >
> > Back to Lurk mode
> >
> > Øystein
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [LU] Kids

[Nigel Sykes]

Two boys in my squad. First one is 25, so was already around when I joined the 
list in the mid-90's. Youngest is now 20. Both are Leeds fans, despite growing 
up in Dublin and generally being the only ones in their classes at school.




Both have been to a few games with me over the years,  but neither are that 
invested to be honest - the youngest hasn't really any interest in sport and 
the eldest is obsessed with American Football (as am I,  to be fair).




Nigel


(the Dublin one)
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Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[Nigel Sykes]

Congratulations to all!

Here's hoping he's more lucky than my eldest son who was born in 1993, and
so has never seen his team win anything!

(I also foisted the support of the Washington Redskins on him, and they too
last won the Super Bowl in 1992.  Poor lad...)

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ian
Murray
Sent: 21 August 2018 14:02
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

Hey all

Very pleased to announce the fact that on Thursday my wife Nicky gave birth
to our first son and Leeds fan, Finlay (Finn) James Murray.

Finn and I watched the Rotherham game in hospital together and he was very
pleased with our performance.

I am sure that he will think that us winning the league is just one of those
things that happens routinely - which is how I felt in 1992.  I am so
re-invigorated with Bielsa that I have bought an android box so that I dont
have to miss any games this season from Perth - if they are not on that then
they can be streamed on the leeds website.  I have also spent an
unreasonable amount of cash on LUFC baby tat to dress the lad in.

Anyway, I am just telling everyone I know because I can't smile wide enough
right now.

MOT

Ian
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Re: [LU] Rotherham

[Nigel Sykes]

-Original Message-
Richard Walker wrote:
Can't remember anyone else coming on ? 

Pontus came on (for a midfielder) near the end.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

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Re: [LU] Bolton - a few thoughts

[Nigel Sykes]

You can’t base everything on stats, but for what it’s worth our stats show that 
our pass accuracy over the past several years is pretty stable at around 74%.  
Our average in the first two games was 73.6%, so basically the same.  No stats 
for last night, but I suspect it would be slightly less, if anything.

For comparison, the better Premier League teams generally run well into the 
80’s.  I suspect that Bielsa will want us to at least improve on previous 
seasons.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

 

From: Nicholas Armit [mailto:arm...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 15 August 2018 17:38
To: 'Leeds List'; Nigel Sykes
Subject: Re: [LU] Bolton - a few thoughts

 

Didn't see yesterday's game much but from the first two games I thought our 
passing has been excellent. Way ahead of previous years.

 

On Wednesday, August 15, 2018, 5:49:21 AM EDT, Nigel Sykes 
 wrote: 

 

 

Yep - pretty much totally agree.

I thought we looked fairly good in the first half, though without quite as much 
'zip' as in the previous 2 games. In the 2nd half though, the 'zip' had gone 
and I commented that it was much more like watching us last season.  It was a 
pretty even 2nd half and could have easily ended in penalties.

Apart from the lower energy of the B-team, the biggest problem this season is 
passing.  We got away with the passes to the opposition in the first two games 
because we hustled so much to get the ball back.  But last night the passing 
was even worse and the hustle wasn't enough to balance it out.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 15 August 2018 09:30
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Bolton - a few thoughts

Interesting game. We made 8 changes so big chance for the B-team. We started 
like we have done in all the games and for 35 minutes I thought we looked good 
with Pearce and Shackleton doing well as wing backs. 
But then I thought we ran out of steam and maybe that's the difference in 
fitness levels and skills between the B-Team and the first 11 ? I thought we 
returned to some of the aimless square and backward balls at the back that we 
have seen under previous managers. The gap between defence and midfield got 
wider and as a result we became less effective. Bolton then began to cause a 
threat and in the end they could have got a result and you have to remember 
they made 9 changes too ! 
So in the end I was happy with the result but it made me think that maybe some 
of our squad players are not going to be able to support a promotion push this 
season. 
Blackman - 7. one bad spill which should have been a goal for them. 
Shackleton - 7. I like the look of this lad. Ok, he lost possession a few times 
and looked at times like he was struggling but you can see he's got quality. 
Pearce - 6. He's a bit more pedestrian than Shackleton and definitely second 
choice to Douglas this season. Did well coming forward at times. 
Jansson - 7. Looked a tad rusy, few dodgy balls but second half showed his 
strength and experience in a few one to ones. Certainly didn't do enough though 
to convince the manager he should be playing instead of Cooper and Beradi and I 
never thought I would say that. 
Ayling - 8. The ever dependable Ayling. 
Phillips - 8. To be fair, he looked the most comfortable and effective in his 
role which is suiting him down to the ground. 
Saiz - 8. I thought he was playing at 75% but still looked a class above and 
scored a great goal. 
Harrison - 7. Tricky little player and he covered some ground. I think he'll be 
pushing Allioski for that left sided position soon. 
Baker - 6. I thought he was a weak link. One or two good forward runs but not 
as solid as Kiltch. 
Bamford - 6. Scored a good goal and looks like he's got a nice left foot but he 
should have had a hat-trick. Bit of a dilemma here because I think he needs 
games but it looks like he'll be stuck on the bench for a while. 
3 games, 3 wins so all good but I think there's a few concerns. 







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Re: [LU] Bolton - a few thoughts

[Nigel Sykes]

Yep - pretty much totally agree.

I thought we looked fairly good in the first half, though without quite as much 
'zip' as in the previous 2 games. In the 2nd half though, the 'zip' had gone 
and I commented that it was much more like watching us last season.  It was a 
pretty even 2nd half and could have easily ended in penalties.

Apart from the lower energy of the B-team, the biggest problem this season is 
passing.  We got away with the passes to the opposition in the first two games 
because we hustled so much to get the ball back.  But last night the passing 
was even worse and the hustle wasn't enough to balance it out.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 15 August 2018 09:30
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Bolton - a few thoughts

Interesting game. We made 8 changes so big chance for the B-team. We started 
like we have done in all the games and for 35 minutes I thought we looked good 
with Pearce and Shackleton doing well as wing backs. 
But then I thought we ran out of steam and maybe that's the difference in 
fitness levels and skills between the B-Team and the first 11 ? I thought we 
returned to some of the aimless square and backward balls at the back that we 
have seen under previous managers. The gap between defence and midfield got 
wider and as a result we became less effective. Bolton then began to cause a 
threat and in the end they could have got a result and you have to remember 
they made 9 changes too ! 
So in the end I was happy with the result but it made me think that maybe some 
of our squad players are not going to be able to support a promotion push this 
season. 
Blackman - 7. one bad spill which should have been a goal for them. 
Shackleton - 7. I like the look of this lad. Ok, he lost possession a few times 
and looked at times like he was struggling but you can see he's got quality. 
Pearce - 6. He's a bit more pedestrian than Shackleton and definitely second 
choice to Douglas this season. Did well coming forward at times. 
Jansson - 7. Looked a tad rusy, few dodgy balls but second half showed his 
strength and experience in a few one to ones. Certainly didn't do enough though 
to convince the manager he should be playing instead of Cooper and Beradi and I 
never thought I would say that. 
Ayling - 8. The ever dependable Ayling. 
Phillips - 8. To be fair, he looked the most comfortable and effective in his 
role which is suiting him down to the ground. 
Saiz - 8. I thought he was playing at 75% but still looked a class above and 
scored a great goal. 
Harrison - 7. Tricky little player and he covered some ground. I think he'll be 
pushing Allioski for that left sided position soon. 
Baker - 6. I thought he was a weak link. One or two good forward runs but not 
as solid as Kiltch. 
Bamford - 6. Scored a good goal and looks like he's got a nice left foot but he 
should have had a hat-trick. Bit of a dilemma here because I think he needs 
games but it looks like he'll be stuck on the bench for a while. 
3 games, 3 wins so all good but I think there's a few concerns. 







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[LU] Bolton on foreign TV

[Nigel Sykes]

Apparently the Bolton game on Tuesday is to be screened on many
international channels (Arena Sport, beIN Sports etc.)

 

Nigel

(the Dublin one)

 

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Re: [LU] Derby

[Nigel Sykes]

It's a weird old game innit?

Just remember that we were playing like this early on last season - that
televised game against Burton(?) was unbelievable.  But then all the other
teams realised that if they bossed us about in midfield, we became useless.
Lets just hope that we have a solution to that this time around...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
{broken-address} gcwhite2001
Sent: 11 August 2018 18:36
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Derby




How the absolute f**k has Bielsa managed to get players who couldn't pass a
fart last season to be spraying around 50 yard pinpoint passes?!

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Re: [LU] Bilesa from Guardian - brilliant (if true)

[Nigel Sykes]

I saw a photo earlier this week that suggested it was significantly narrower?




Nigel


(the Dublin one)




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On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 6:34 PM +0100, "Jim Moran"  wrote:










This email aged fairly badly mate.

On 5 August 2018 at 15:46, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Roofe starts ahead of Bamford and Roberts. No Pontus.
>
> Team is weaker than last year
>
> Lots of pre season optimism in the pub but how long will it last. That
> defence looks v. Weak
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 4 Aug 2018, at 12:27, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> >
> > Marcelo Bielsa had a question. The new Leeds manager wanted to find out
> how hard the average supporter had to work to pay for a ticket to watch the
> team. How many hours did he or she have to put in? It was unclear what kind
> of calculations went into the answer but one was provided. It would be
> about three.So the Argentinian called his players together and he told them
> that, for the next three hours, they would be picking up litter from around
> the club’s Thorp Arch training ground. He wanted them to learn a lesson; to
> appreciate how the fans laboured to fulfil their passion.t was classic
> Bielsa on many levels, taking in his empathy for the worker, his fixation
> with discipline and team spirit and, above all, the quirkiness and
> unpredictability that has led to the “El Loco” nickname. The 63-year-old is
> not crazy. It is just that his obsessive nature, ferocious intensity,
> eccentricities and refusal to adhere to convention can make him seem that
> way.When Bielsa strode into Leeds on 15 June to replace Paul Heckingbottom,
> it quickly became clear the club would never be the same again. The stories
> of Bielsa’s attention to detail are already legendary. He runs his
> forefinger across various surfaces at Thorp Arch to check for dust,
> invariably being appalled at what he finds, while he once inquired why
> there was a bootprint on a wall – about half a yard from the floor.It was
> explained to him that, perhaps, it was the result of somebody leaning back
> against it, with his or her foot up. “That shows the person is not
> concentrated on their work! Unacceptable!” Bielsa exclaimed. Leeds have had
> and do have bigger problems than the odd dirty mark but this is Bielsa, the
> perfectionist, and this is how he intends to drag the club up by their
> bootlaces: little bit by little bit.
> > Full article - https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/aug/04/leeds-
> united-marcelo-bielsa
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Re: [LU] Bilesa from Guardian - brilliant (if true)

[Nigel Sykes]

I loved what I read about when the bigwigs went to visit him, he somehow had 
got his hands on the blueprints for the Thorpe Arch training complex and had 
already marked up what he would want to change about it!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Vijay Bhakta
Sent: 04 August 2018 13:30
To: nat...@sky.com
Cc: ; Michael ALCOCK
Subject: Re: [LU] Bilesa from Guardian - brilliant (if true)

He is indeed capturing our hearts.  With his style, could those who go to
ER comment on what changes he has made to the pitch size.  Narrower or
wider?  On one hand top play a pressing game would lean to a narrow pitch
but wing backs may point to a wider one.

V.

On Sat, 4 Aug 2018, 13:06 nat...@sky.com,  wrote:

> The whole article does leave you feeling that , for once, we have got
> things right at ER and that things are looking up. I think it is the first
> time for a long time, that I am genuinely excited and looking forward with
> real optimism as opposed to wishful thinking.
>
> His knowledge of the Championship , albeit theoretical rather than
> practical, seems amazing. He is clearly putting in the hard work and so far
> the players are doing the same with extra training and the fact that "The
> statistics show the players ran more, on average, across their six
> pre-season games than they did in league matches last season."
> Having said that I can still see it going to pieces and quite quickly - I
> can easily see us getting hammered 4 or 5 nil on Sunday and him walking out
> on Monday!
> Equally there are suggestions that his teams run out of steam towards the
> end of a season and we all know that the Championship is the longest most
> arduous league in the world.
>
> Dave
>
>   From: Michael ALCOCK 
>  To: "nat...@sky.com" 
> Cc: Leeds List 
>  Sent: Saturday, 4 August 2018, 12:54
>  Subject: Re: [LU] Bilesa from Guardian - brilliant (if true)
>
> I really hope it is true. I’m more excited about this season than I have
> been for years. It really does feel like we’re iving things a real go...
> On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 at 12:28, nat...@sky.com  wrote:
>
> Marcelo Bielsa had a question. The new Leeds manager wanted to find out
> how hard the average supporter had to work to pay for a ticket to watch the
> team. How many hours did he or she have to put in? It was unclear what kind
> of calculations went into the answer but one was provided. It would be
> about three.So the Argentinian called his players together and he told them
> that, for the next three hours, they would be picking up litter from around
> the club’s Thorp Arch training ground. He wanted them to learn a lesson; to
> appreciate how the fans laboured to fulfil their passion.t was classic
> Bielsa on many levels, taking in his empathy for the worker, his fixation
> with discipline and team spirit and, above all, the quirkiness and
> unpredictability that has led to the “El Loco” nickname. The 63-year-old is
> not crazy. It is just that his obsessive nature, ferocious intensity,
> eccentricities and refusal to adhere to convention can make him seem that
> way.When Bielsa strode into Leeds on 15 June to replace Paul Heckingbottom,
> it quickly became clear the club would never be the same again. The stories
> of Bielsa’s attention to detail are already legendary. He runs his
> forefinger across various surfaces at Thorp Arch to check for dust,
> invariably being appalled at what he finds, while he once inquired why
> there was a bootprint on a wall – about half a yard from the floor.It was
> explained to him that, perhaps, it was the result of somebody leaning back
> against it, with his or her foot up. “That shows the person is not
> concentrated on their work! Unacceptable!” Bielsa exclaimed. Leeds have had
> and do have bigger problems than the odd dirty mark but this is Bielsa, the
> perfectionist, and this is how he intends to drag the club up by their
> bootlaces: little bit by little bit.
> Full article -
> https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/aug/04/leeds-united-marcelo-bielsa
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Re: [LU] Bielsabub in the I paper

[Nigel Sykes]

I'm hugely intrigued by that presumably double-google-translated "we are the
scum of Leeds and is a shit".  I wonder what it said in French, and what the
original chant was?

Nigel
(the Dublin (and often France) one)

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From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 02 August 2018 11:13
To: John Boocock; Leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Bielsabub in the I paper

Not bad but I prefer the one on waccoe translated from a French newspaper
(L'equipe) - especially the bit about 'degreasing' the squad by letting so
many players leave and references to dirty Leeds (according to them based on
the Paris riots) and our favourite chant - "we are the scum of Leeds and is
a shit"
It does describe the union between him and us as 'incongruous"

Dave(I can probably cut and paste it on here for anyone who is not on waccoe
- let me know)

  From: John Boocock 
 To: Leedslist  
 Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2018, 9:17
 Subject: [LU] Bielsabub in the I paper
   
Interesting piece by Michael Walker 
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united-marcelo-bielsa-tactics-forma
tion-history-revolution/

Betty (in the library just before NCC close it down)
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Re: [LU] Forest Green - 2 1 up at half time

[Nigel Sykes]

You know when Bielsa took the job and said that he'd watched every single
Leeds game from last season?  Appears that's just the tip of his
preparation-iceberg:  "Forest Green are well into their friendly schedule
and spent some time in Devon last week. Bielsa had all of their friendlies
filmed in preparation for tonight." 

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Matt
Anderson
Sent: 17 July 2018 20:24
To: Richard Naef
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Forest Green - 2 1 up at half time

Some good passing all round here. 

> On 17 Jul 2018, at 20:20, Richard Naef 
wrote:
> 
> Is it just me or is Cooper playing a blinder cross field passes, running
out from defence etc etc, maybe Beilsa can polish turds!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of nat...@sky.com
> Sent: 17 July 2018 19:59
> To: Leeds List 
> Subject: [LU] Forest Green - 2 1 up at half time
> 
> For 45 minutes that was very good - we totally controlled the game and
were so confident even Liam Cooper made a lovely cushioned back header as we
were so comfortableNo changes in personnel or formation other than Dallas
was left back and Berardi centre backWe had 4 or 5 chances - all bar one to
Roofe- and played some nice one touch football against poor opposition. 
> Ayling showed us what we were missing at the end of last season as FG gave
him the freedom of the park and he even scored our second: a lovely ten man
move ended with Roofe laying it wide to Ayling who was unmarked and slotted
home.Before that Roofe who looked lively but should have had a hat trick,
missed a one on one, another easy-ish chance and then scored as a corner
fell to him inside the 6 yd box, he controlled and his deflected shot beat
the keeper. 
> Forshaw also looked class as we totally dominated with Pablo and Saiz
flitting in and out of the game and interchanging. One other thing of note
was Alioski who spent the whole half hugging the left touchline in front of
Dallas.So as I say on 45 minutes things could hardy be better. However this
half last 46 minutes and it that final minute we let Grubb , one of their
players, walk through and past Ayling and fire a shot , that was decent
enough but perhaps should have been saved, past BPF and so with the last
kick of the half and their only attack and shot, they got a goal back - a
very poor bit of play that , in a real game, could be enough to undo all the
good workOne final point - the commentator alongside Eddie is awful - he
does not know any of the players and when he does recognise them he
mispronounces their name Sees and Aliosi for starters (then tried when he
got these two mixed up to claim they look alike- well they do apart from
height, weight , hair colour and style, a
 nd
>  the fact that they have different coloured boots, Ali has socks over his
knees, Samu doesn't, and Ali has short sleeves with bare arms and Samu a
blue fleece over his arms - apart from that they are indeed twins- Oh except
Samu has a beard and Ali is clean shaven!)
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Re: [LU] Tippy Tappy

[Nigel Sykes]

Definitely not the best ever in terms of quality of football.  But in terms of 
entertainment? Sure - it took until yesterday's turgid few hours of dullness to 
remind me what the World Cup was usually like, especially in the knock-out 
stages.  

Thankfully, there's only on more all-European tie left in this round, because 
that's where the fun usually drains away.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

P.S. McDermott gone from Rhinos...

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} John Lee
Sent: 02 July 2018 09:59
To: Roger Goodair; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Tippy Tappy

I think Spain 10 years ago were brilliant, but it didn't do them much good this 
time. Keeping posession is one thing, but being ambivalent about creating any 
chances is another. They were so dull for most of the World Cup - given the 
quality of players they have then what a waste that they really couldn't switch 
into a tippy-tappy Mk 2 where creation of chances outsrips the desire to have 
the ball.
What do others think about the standard of teams at this World Cup. The 'Best 
World Cup Ever' comments are, imho, ridiculous. Some very average teams, 
petulant and ridiculous defending/over-reacting. France looked very good 
against Argentina, Croatia looked great (and very dirty) in the group but were 
outplayed by Denmark yesterday and should have lost, Brazil, average as yet, 
Russia - 2 excellent group games of old-skool togger, followed by a drubbing 
from Uruguay. England - doing Ok to very good, but not yet played a decent team 
with their first eleven - hope they can progress though and think they will.
But Greatest World Cup ever - do they not remember Jairzinho, Rivelino, Total 
Football, even Germany v Brazil last time out? 
I might change my mind if England win it though :-)
JOhn

  From: Roger Goodair 
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2018, 14:17
 Subject: [LU] Tippy Tappy
   
  And your (and many others in England) "Can't be doing with" is the
  reason England haven't won a major trophy for 52 years and Spain have
  won three in the last 10 years.
  As the German coach of the time put it after their semi final defeat in
  2008, death by a thousand passes. Simply awesome in my view and one
  unerring truth in football is that the opposition cannot score if they
  do not have the ball.
  If only the hapless club team of our affections could string 6 passes
  together what a joy that would be to behold.
  Southampton 1972 anyone?
  Rogerre
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Re: [LU] I blame gazza

[Nigel Sykes]

Absolutely. More Batty-esque "don't give a shit attitude" is needed!




Nigel


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Look I'm as snowflakey as they come, but am I the only one finding all this 
crying a bit tiresome?  It's only a game and as far as I know no puppies have 
died?

Sent from my mobile

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Re: [LU] Manager?

[Nigel Sykes]

I'm struggling to see what's in it for him.  His recent résumé  reads:
Argentina, Chile, Athletic Bilbao, Marseille, Lazio, Lille.

Can't help but think that our name is really gonna look like a shitstain on
it, when he inevitably departs, with his tail between his legs in a few
months' time...

(I can't be anything but depressingly cynical with any Leeds news at this
stage)

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard
Naef
Sent: 03 June 2018 18:04
To: Leeds List; nat...@sky.com
Subject: Re: [LU] Manager?

Problem is we are Leeds and we love a moan.  When was the last manager who
was given some time?  Can't see the experts keeping quiet with this guy.  He
delights in playing players out of position, making weird substitutions and
generally not giving a fcuk what the fans think. He doesn't speak English,
so how the hell is he going to put over complicated fluid tactics to the
players? I want to win games and not be miserable on Saturdays.  If he gets
the job he'll get my 100% support, but I wonder how long he'll get.

From: Leedslist  on behalf of nat...@sky.com

Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2018 2:54:01 PM
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Manager?

Yeah - let's go for the 'nutter' and his 3 3 1 3 formation - we are Leeds
united and we are mental (as the song used to go "we're barmy, we're mental,
we're off our fu*king heads ")*Guardiola, Pocchino and now Gabriel Batistuta
are all quoted as calling him the best coach in the world so he must have
something. (plus the story of him approaching fans holding a hand grenade)

We are LEEDS and want someone different not the bland, boring same-old
same-old crap of Bruce, Allerdice and McCarthy - we are here for the ride so
lets enjoy ourselves - Of course I want success and to get to the Premier
League (even though we will not like it once we get there) but I go to games
to enjoy myself and this Bielsa bloke sounds tailor made for us !
Dave* with genuine apologies to anyone out there with real mental illnesses
etc


  From: Torrey Gilday 
 To: Richard Naef 
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Friday, 1 June 2018, 21:54
 Subject: Re: [LU] Manager?

They might be a safer bet, but Bielsa sounds like a fun bet!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Richard Naef 
wrote:
>
> Ok, so ignoring whether or not they would come, surely. Allerdice, Pearson
McCarthy are free, wouldn't they (in that order) be a far better bet than
Bielsa?
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Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 96, Issue 1

[Nigel Sykes]

The main worry with Bielsa would be that he has had 9 club jobs and none of 
them lasted more than about 2 years.

Which in many ways makes him the ideal candidate for us, of course!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Matt Anderson
Sent: 01 June 2018 14:23
To: Michael Gardiner
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 96, Issue 1

You can’t knock his record up to a couple of years ago

Lille was a disaster though. Ambitious owner with vision...

The pedigree of players he has managed is amazing, could he cope with Kalvin 
Phillips and O’kane ??

Also he might be able to attract a better quality of player

Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Jun 2018, at 13:50, Michael Gardiner  wrote:
> 
> Not nearly as ridiculous. He’s been on the market for a while and has been 
> passed over a lot. Including for numerous MLS jobs.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 1, 2018, at 7:00 AM, "leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.org" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 22:39:58 +
>> From: Richard Naef 
>> To: list leedslist , Ed Morrish
>>   
>> Subject: Re: [LU] New manager?
>> Message-ID:
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>> 
>> Almost as ridiculous,
>> 
>> , Argentine Marcelo Bielsa the latest of many to be linked with #lufc.
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Re: [LU] Hecky confirmed as gone

[Nigel Sykes]

And so the carousel of chaos turns...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard
Naef
Sent: 01 June 2018 12:05
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Hecky confirmed as gone



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Re: [LU] 31 years ago

[Nigel Sykes]

Lol - it does sound like the plot to a Carl Hiassen novel, all right!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

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From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of MATTHEW 
GAYNOR
Sent: 30 May 2018 15:37
To: Tim Leslie; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] 31 years ago

There is enough in just that paragraph to justify a feature film.
If Ed Moorish is still lurking around can he advise us if this should be filmed 
as;
A comedy with Simon Pegg as Tim / Stig and Joe Mangel as the AustralianorA 
thriller with Matt Damon and Russell Crowe
Matt 

  From: Tim Leslie 
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2018, 8:13
 Subject: Re: [LU] 31 years ago
   
I missed it! On holiday in Florida with 3 mates. Remember having to ring 
home to find out what was happening. Consoled ourselves by going out in 
Fort Lauderdale and getting absolutely wasted. I ended up in the Ocean 
and then hitched a lift with an Aussie who drove me to a VERY dodgy part 
of Miami, intent on me acting as his accomplice whilst he shot a bloke 
in revenge (True story!) - He couldn't find him (Thankfully) and dropped 
me back at the hotel. I'd sobered up by then

StigOfTheHitmansAssistantDump

On 29.05.2018 22:36, JONATHAN WYNNE wrote:
> I just remember the Charlton fans' 'You're staying down with the
> Palace' song at the end, before I drove back home distraught to North
> Kent, avoiding eye contact with them all in the traffic and at
> service stations!Jonathan
> 
> 
>On Tuesday, 29 May 2018, 16:58, "nat...@sky.com"  
> wrote:
> 


   
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Re: [LU] 2-0 win

[Nigel Sykes]

I thought so too, but on closer inspection, I'm pretty sure it took a 
deflection which gave it that crucial "loop".

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

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Sent: 11 May 2018 15:26
To: Matt Anderson; Leeds List; Richard Naef
Subject: Re: [LU] 2-0 win

 Grot's goal was something else. 

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Re: [LU] Heckingbottom surprised at sacking rumours

[Nigel Sykes]

The smoke has well and truly cleared and the mirrors have been smashed.  I saw 
a table yesterday that listed Championship clubs by the ratio of wages to 
turnover.  Out of all the clubs in the division (except Barnsley, for whom the 
figures weren't available) Leeds were bottom with 61%.  13 clubs had higher 
wage bills than turnover, with Blackburn topping the madness list at 147%.

Now, putting aside the fiscal advisability of paying more than you make, and 
given that we must surely have one of the highest turnovers in the league, one 
has to ask how we can ever compete with our apparent "spend nowt and hope" 
attitude.

Where is that other 39% of turnover going?

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

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nat...@sky.com
Sent: 12 April 2018 16:30
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Heckingbottom surprised at sacking rumours

How can he be surprised given the results and performances since he came in ?
Two most worrying quotes, to me. "We’re going to have to work hard because 
we’ve seen the calibre of players who are in this league, the calibre of clubs. 
But it doesn’t mean we can’t do it if we’re all on the same page, 
over-achieving and building a hungry, competitive squad."and then "It’ll be a 
smaller squad and a hungrier squad"
Why, when we have the biggest crowds, most TV appearances and right up there 
with biggest income (bar parachute payments) , can't we buy that calibre of 
player so that they just need to do well not 'over-achieve' ?Also given that, 
due to injuries we are playing two non full backs as full back and will be 
starting with at least one young inexperienced centre half and no recognised 
midfield player on the bench v Villa, isn't the squad already too small ?
Dave

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Re: [LU] Bolton ticket offer

[Nigel Sykes]

And presumably, the logistics mean that the free seats probably won't be
next to those of the people whose friends hold the ST's, so they're even
less likely to enjoy the experience enough to return.

But still, better than having an empty ground.

Nigel
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Sent: 15 March 2018 10:09
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Bolton ticket offer

When I had a ST and couldn't make games a few years back I couldn't give my
ticket away!

On 15 March 2018 at 09:32, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> Radz is going for it with his latest ticket offer - ST holders can 
> bring a friend for free to Bolton gameNot sure if this is an 
> indication of how they think the fans will be deserting in droves as 
> the season peters out or is just an attempt to get non match going 
> fans interested again I am not sure these offers work in any 
> meaningful way - yes we will get a full house on the day (or come 
> close) and therefore take more money in the shop and catering outlets 
> but I know from personal experience that fans who come for free will 
> only come for free. The group of us who have STs will sometimes have 
> one available for free / very cheap when the ST holder cannot make it 
> (indeed one of the lads is missing this Saturday) but whoever has used 
> it has only ever come back when the free ST is available again - not 
> one of the 7-10 lads who have used it over the last 20+ years or so 
> has become a regular attendee or bought a ST , and some of them have 
> been ex ST holders Dave 
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[LU] Our owner has a bee in his bonnet

[Nigel Sykes]

Radz was tweeting, mid-game tonight:

"We have our own problems but we should play in a fair competition. Not
legal and fair let one team owned by a fund whom has shares in the biggest
players agency with evident benefits (top European clubs giving players with
options to buy ..why the other 23 teams can't have same treatment ? We
should play all 24 with the same rules and opportunities (it s enough to
google it)   @EFL"

and

 

"Congratulations to the best team but hope the league can be fair and equal
to all 24 teams"



Any idea what he's moaning about?

 

Nigel

(the Dublin one)

 

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Re: [LU] Saiz

[Nigel Sykes]

Apart from the petulance, Saiz has been about the only thing to admire about
us all season.  The 6 games he missed mean we don't even have to imagine how
appalling things would be without him.

Also, I think Alioski is a decent player - but only when Saiz is playing.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

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Lewis (UK SBS)
Sent: 07 March 2018 15:14
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Saiz

I don't think it is just Saiz that Heck needs to get the best out of.  He
has to find a combination and formation that gets the best out of all of
them.

As has been mentioned before, Only Jannson, Forshaw, Saiz and Hernandez (+
Ayling injured)  look capable of performing well enough on a regular basis.
To be fair to Berardi, he is steady enough and even the much-maligned Cooper
is less error-prone than last year.

Of the others, I believe that Lasogga, Roofe, Alioski, Dallas, Vieira,
Phillips, O'Kane all have something to offer.
The problem is that they either have more flaws than attributes or are just
so inconsistent as to be unreliable.

Heck has to work out where/how to play them, to maximise their strengths and
hide their weaknesses.
Then work out what the f*** to do about the left-back and goalkeeper
positions, because Wiedwald and De Bock are too error prone to even make it
into the group above.   If 5 of the 7  in that group play at their best we
can beat Wolves. If none do, we'll get hammered.

KOT.


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[LU] We've had our problems, but...

[Nigel Sykes]

.spare a thought for Dulwich Hamlet FC, who have just been told they can't
use their own name anymore, thanks to what appear to be some truly appalling
shitsharks who own their ground!

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/dulwich-hamlet-
ground-owners-meadow-legacy-trademark-name-warn-against-further-use-a8242836
.html

 

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Re: [LU] 3 nil defeat

[Nigel Sykes]

Couldn't agree more about midfielders.  And especially about Batts (my 
favourite Leeds player).  Been saying all season that we simply must get a ball 
winning/distributing midfielder or we are entirely at the mercy of any team who 
is willing to try harder than us in midfield (which isn't exactly hard!).

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 03 March 2018 21:44
To: Nicholas Armit
Cc: Leeds List; {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Subject: Re: [LU] 3 nil defeat

Cheers Nick. I've spent over 40 years watching Leeds week in week out so I like 
to think I've got the measure of most players I watch. 
Most players can be gauged within 4-5 games but I'd say the exception to this 
is the centre back position and strikers. I've seen players arrive at Leeds who 
look like a fish out of water. Chris Fairclough, Peter Haddock and Rio were all 
awful on their debuts and first few appearances but all turned out to be good 
signings ( not sure Rio lived up to his fee?).
In terms of strikers they tend to be rated until they come to Leeds - Keith  
Edwards, Jim Melrose, Derek Parlane, George McCluskey, Noel Hunt, Barn door 
Billy Painter, Darren Huckerby, Ian Rush to name a few.

But midfielders just stand out. They just need to make themselves available, 
take the ball, and give it to someone. Easy ? No. David Batty was the best I've 
ever seen at this. He is everything I've ever loved about football. Such 
simplicity but brilliantly effective in making a team tick. Olivier Dacourt was 
also good at this  but he added a driving ability which allowed him to be more 
attacking. Both truly great midfielders.

O'Kane has no awareness. Watch him when he gets the ball. He's head down , one 
dimensional. It's either a pass backward or he just motors forward with no real 
intention. Batty was ultra aware of his team mates. He got the ball, looked up 
and passed but then looked how he can help. He was the cog at the heart of the 
machine. It's a shame that O'Kane will never be able to perform at even 25% 
effectiveness of David Batty , but that's why Bournemouth let him go !

We are Leeds!

Rich


> On 3 Mar 2018, at 20:36, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
> 
> I may have to give in to the greatness of Rich Walker. I have always thought 
> O’Kane is a neat tidy thinking man’s player. But the last two games have 
> shown he is shite.
> 
> The Viera comment made me laugh out loud in the pub (well Faux Midwest 
> Mexican Cantina really) where assorted Ameicans wondered what is wrong with 
> me.
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> On Saturday, March 3, 2018, 1:25 PM, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure he has many options as Lonergan sis currently injured however 
> I'd put Farrel Bayley Peacock in (or someone with a name like that). He 
> cannot be any worse. 
> Poor performance last night and and it completely ruined a decent 
> night in the pub.Even though that starting XI is massively lacking I 
> don't think they have any chance when they're playing with a keeper 
> who is worth 1-2 goals for the opposition. Right from the start 
> Wieldwald is dithering and putting us on the back foot. We actually 
> came out of the trap pretty lively but as soon as Boro came forward 
> and put in a cross the hapless Kraut tries to punch and actually 
> misses leaving it on a plate for Downing. Luckily the fact that he 
> missed it totally surprised him and he missed. Following that you 
> could just see any little confidence Wieldwald had just disappear and 
> he was reduced, not for the first time, to a dithering keeper rooted 
> to his line. The second goal for me showed that he's even lost his 
> confidence to shot stop which to be fair to him he hasn't been that 
> bad it since he arrived. However, there was general agreement in the 
> pub that
> 1) He should never play again2) He is the worst keeper ever to play for Leeds 
> (ok most of the pub have forgotten about Rabuchka)3) The decision to remove 
> Green and bring in Wieldwald goes down as one of the worst pieces of football 
> management ever witnessed. Up there with selling Cantona. 
> Having said that, Hecky for me is displaying all the qualities of bringing 
> mediocrity to the club. His team selection last night was a case of don't 
> change a winning team but Brentford played us off the park for large periods 
> of the game and 9 times out of 10 we would have lost that game and 9 times 
> out of 10 a midfield of Philips, O'Kane, Dallas and Allioski will not get you 
> any points in this division. Hecky seems to be making the same mistakes as TC 
> but then adding his own unique cock-ups i.e. giving Dallas a start for the 
> last few games. One decent cross in all those games and a bit of hard work do 
> not constitute a player justifying his positioning and last 

Re: [LU] another new crest / badge

[Nigel Sykes]

I don't have too much of a problem with the salute.  But the badge is awful
- like an MLS badge, or a kids' team.

But, someone put it quite eloquently on Twitter - saying that the salute is
an unspoken thing between Leeds fans.  Like a masonic handshake or whatever.
If you know about it, you know about it.  Putting it out there on the badge
smacks of something wrong... commercialism maybe.  Whatever.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard
Naef
Sent: 24 January 2018 16:04
To: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
Subject: Re: [LU] another new crest / badge

I actually agree, I think the salute is Leeds.

ttfn

Richard

From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 24 January 2018 15:59
To: Richard Naef ; errand. fivefold
; Ted ; Graham Farr

Cc: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
Subject: Re: [LU] another new crest / badge

Quite like it mysen. Leeds salute is part of our history. I remember being
in many away end when someone spots someone in the home end doing a secret
Leeds salute. Minute later it kicks off.

Huddersfield was the classic. Their whole stand emptied.




From: Richard Naef
>
To: errand. fivefold
>; Ted
>; Graham Farr
>
Cc: "Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org)"
>
Sent: Wednesday, 24 January 2018, 13:10
Subject: Re: [LU] another new crest / badge

Looks OK to me and they have gone through a consultation process.  Lets face
it whatever they had done the list would have moaned, old white geezers
don't like change do they?

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist
[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
On Behalf Of errand.fivefold
Sent: 24 January 2018 12:43
To: Ted >; Graham Farr
>
Cc: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
>
Subject: Re: [LU] another new crest / badge

That New badge is for want of a better
expression..fu@king pathetic.
IMHO


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Ted
> Date: 24/01/2018  12:35
(GMT+00:00) To: Graham Farr
> Cc: "Leeds List
(leedslist@gn.apc.org)"
> Subject: Re: [LU]
another new crest / badge "Another"?  We've had the last one for 20 years!!!

I'm undecided on it. It might grow on me.

Funny - they say they've consulted with over 10,000 fans.  Yesterday was the
first I'd heard about it!  Did anyone else knew it was imminent?

Ted H


On 24 January 2018 at 12:09, Graham Farr
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> Hate it
>
> Bring back 70's smiley
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Re: [LU] Playstation

[Nigel Sykes]

Or take a look at the "Gaviscon Extra Strength" bottle.  Somehow apt...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Jim Moran
Sent: 24 January 2018 14:31
To: Graham Farr
Cc: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
Subject: Re: [LU] Playstation

This is where we find out that our new shirt sponsor is Playstation, Elland
Road is now the Sony Center, and that the club's name has been changed to
Yorkshire Whites All-stars.

On 24 January 2018 at 14:00, Graham Farr  wrote:

> Can't we get Sony to sue the club ?
>
> Just Google
>
> ProEvolution Soccer 2
>
> It is identical !
>
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Re: [LU] another new crest / badge

[Nigel Sykes]

Much talk online (obviously).  I'd say about 99% negative (at least!).  
Personally, I think it looks like the badge of some knock-off, kids' pyjamas!

Yet to see one person who claims knowledge of being "consulted", so not sure 
where this 10,000 number comes from.

Anyone wondering about the design process and probable target market should do 
a Google image search on "Pro Evolution Soccer 2".  Just sayin'...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard Naef
Sent: 24 January 2018 13:10
To: errand.fivefold; Ted; Graham Farr
Cc: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
Subject: Re: [LU] another new crest / badge

Looks OK to me and they have gone through a consultation process.  Lets face it 
whatever they had done the list would have moaned, old white geezers don't like 
change do they?

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
errand.fivefold
Sent: 24 January 2018 12:43
To: Ted ; Graham Farr 
Cc: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
Subject: Re: [LU] another new crest / badge

That New badge is for want of a better expression..fu@king pathetic.
IMHO


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Ted  Date: 
24/01/2018  12:35  (GMT+00:00) To: Graham Farr  Cc: 
"Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org)"  Subject: Re: [LU] 
another new crest / badge "Another"?  We've had the last one for 20 years!!!

I'm undecided on it. It might grow on me.

Funny - they say they've consulted with over 10,000 fans.  Yesterday was the 
first I'd heard about it!  Did anyone else knew it was imminent?

Ted H


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> Hate it
>
> Bring back 70's smiley
>
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Re: [LU] O'Kane

[Nigel Sykes]

He wants to be careful - one poor sap got asked for 85 grand by Sky, after he 
streamed the Anthony Joshua fight on his Facebook page!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 14 January 2018 18:26
To: Matt Anderson; Nicholas Armit
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] O'Kane

I watched the bloke who posts his feed on the All Leeds aren't we Facebook 
site. Was great and free.

  From: Matt Anderson 
 To: Nicholas Armit  
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Sunday, 14 January 2018, 16:41
 Subject: Re: [LU] O'Kane
   
Yes I thought that!  Camera pointed at the corner flag waiting for the player 
to arrive to take the corner

And also every time that Eddie Gray bigs us up we lose  or concede 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Jan 2018, at 14:32, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
> 
> On a related but different point the camerawork for the game yesterday on 
> lutv was appalling. I paid over $6 for some teenager with his phone to zoom 
> in on the corner flag for minutes at a time.
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> On Sunday, January 14, 2018, 8:19 AM, nat...@sky.com  wrote:
> 
> I have tried to look up re extra for stupid appeal - an article in the Sun 
> dated Dec 2017 all about length of bans etc says"But if the FA rule a club 
> has lodged a 'frivolous' appeal, a three-game ban can be increased to four."
> So maybe it still does ??Probably academic in O'Kane case since the video 
> will convince TC not to appeal
> 
> 
> https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/2332775/how-many-games-does-a-player-miss-for-a-red-card-how-many-yellows-before-hes-suspended-premier-league-rules-explained/
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> There is no appealing that! 
> 
> Frivolous appeal rule doesn’t exist now I don’t think. 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Shite

[Nigel Sykes]

I've been saying it for months, and I haven't changed my opinion - this team
could do okay if we just had a quality ball-winning/distributing midfielder
(in the David Batty mold).  All this talk of signing more strikers or
whatever is bullshit.  We need steel in midfield.  Any team worth its salt
has worked out that if they boss the middle, we're useless.  What we do
about this in this transfer window will say all we need to know about those
in charge of our transfer dealings.  Sadly, I mostly expect more unknown
strikers to be signed.  On loan.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

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From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 01 January 2018 15:57
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Shite

Dreadful ... again

Allioski having a mare and I'm beginning to think he ain't that good.

Forrest too much space in midfield 

Roofe working hard up front but needs support. 

Should have stayed in the pub 

Yellow ball is shit

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Re: [LU] Should I get divorced ?

[Nigel Sykes]

Yeah, I think that's funny...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 22 December 2017 16:13
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Should I get divorced ?

My wife has made (or at least decorated) some tea mugs and sent them to my two 
closest LUFC mates , and done one for me They have the Leeds crest on one side 
and on the other it says "Leed United supporters mug. Instructions for use put 
a goldfish in it and pretend you have won something"
 So is taking the mickey out of LUFC funny or a divorceable offence ?
DavePS To be honest both my mates and myself found the mugs very funny and am 
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Re: [LU] QPR game streaming

[Nigel Sykes]

Of course, if one chooses to 'travel' to one of these countries by other means, 
then that's up to the individual!

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
Sent: 08 December 2017 19:45
To: 'Leeds List'
Subject: Re: [LU] QPR game streaming

That's what they're saying officially, yes.  The game is being shown live by 
certain international broadcasters, so isn't available everywhere, and unlike 
previous games, they seem to believe they have sorted out a way for other 
countries to still get access to it.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Robinson, Mick [mailto:mick.robin...@miq.com] 
Sent: 08 December 2017 19:42
To: Nigel Sykes; Leeds List
Subject: RE: [LU] QPR game streaming

Is that from the official site Nigel, because it is so not true 


-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
Sent: 08 December 2017 19:33
To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: [LU] QPR game streaming

[EXTERNAL]


In the ever changing world of where you can and can't watch a particular game 
on LUTV, listers may like to know that tomorrow's game will only be available 
to stream from the official site in the following countries(!):

ALBANIA
BANGLADESH
BHUTAN
CAMBODIA
FAROE ISLANDS
GREENLAND
HUNGARY
INDIA
ITALY
JAPAN
NORTH KOREA
SOUTH KOREA
LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC
LIECHTENSTEIN
LUXEMBOURG
MALAYSIA
MALDIVES
MALTA
MONGOLIA
MYANMAR
NEPAL
PAKISTAN
PORTUGAL
ROMANIA
SAN MARINO
SINGAPORE
SPAIN
SRI LANKA
TAIWAN
TIMOR-LESTE
UKRAINE
VATICAN CITY STATE
VIETNAM

So off you pop to one of them before logging on ;)

Nigel
(the Dublin one)


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Re: [LU] QPR game streaming

[Nigel Sykes]

That's what they're saying officially, yes.  The game is being shown live by 
certain international broadcasters, so isn't available everywhere, and unlike 
previous games, they seem to believe they have sorted out a way for other 
countries to still get access to it.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Robinson, Mick [mailto:mick.robin...@miq.com] 
Sent: 08 December 2017 19:42
To: Nigel Sykes; Leeds List
Subject: RE: [LU] QPR game streaming

Is that from the official site Nigel, because it is so not true 


-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
Sent: 08 December 2017 19:33
To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: [LU] QPR game streaming

[EXTERNAL]


In the ever changing world of where you can and can't watch a particular game 
on LUTV, listers may like to know that tomorrow's game will only be available 
to stream from the official site in the following countries(!):

ALBANIA
BANGLADESH
BHUTAN
CAMBODIA
FAROE ISLANDS
GREENLAND
HUNGARY
INDIA
ITALY
JAPAN
NORTH KOREA
SOUTH KOREA
LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC
LIECHTENSTEIN
LUXEMBOURG
MALAYSIA
MALDIVES
MALTA
MONGOLIA
MYANMAR
NEPAL
PAKISTAN
PORTUGAL
ROMANIA
SAN MARINO
SINGAPORE
SPAIN
SRI LANKA
TAIWAN
TIMOR-LESTE
UKRAINE
VATICAN CITY STATE
VIETNAM

So off you pop to one of them before logging on ;)

Nigel
(the Dublin one)


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[LU] QPR game streaming

[Nigel Sykes]

In the ever changing world of where you can and can't watch a particular
game on LUTV, listers may like to know that tomorrow's game will only be
available to stream from the official site in the following countries(!):

ALBANIA
BANGLADESH
BHUTAN
CAMBODIA
FAROE ISLANDS
GREENLAND
HUNGARY
INDIA
ITALY
JAPAN
NORTH KOREA
SOUTH KOREA
LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC
LIECHTENSTEIN
LUXEMBOURG
MALAYSIA
MALDIVES
MALTA
MONGOLIA
MYANMAR
NEPAL
PAKISTAN
PORTUGAL
ROMANIA
SAN MARINO
SINGAPORE
SPAIN
SRI LANKA
TAIWAN
TIMOR-LESTE
UKRAINE
VATICAN CITY STATE
VIETNAM

So off you pop to one of them before logging on ;)

Nigel
(the Dublin one)


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Re: [LU] Barnsley

[Nigel Sykes]

I think the main difference today was that, unlike most teams in this
division, Barnsley hadn't realised, or simply didn't have the personnel, to
out-muscle us in midfield.  Anybody who does that will beat us.  Simple as
that.  And unless we do something about that in January, we won't do more
than win the odd game against the really poor teams in this division.  

Still... always nice to win.  Especially at Oakwell (only the 3rd one in 30
years!)

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

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Re: [LU] Any other referees on the list? A real woman's game...

[Nigel Sykes]

I take it that's your good self in purple James?

Never really got my head around Hurling/Camogie.  Nor Gaelic Football, if
I'm honest...

Nigel
(the unconverted, Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
{broken-address} James A. Lundon @ Yahoo!
Sent: 07 November 2017 11:44
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Any other referees on the list? A real woman's game...

Fellow Whites,
To lighten the otherwise very sombre mood on the list presently, have a look
at this video.
A nod to the first person who notices the potentially catastrophic mistake
the referee made midways through the second half :-(.
I would be fascinated with the views of people who have never seen this game
played before...
James.
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Re: [LU] Test message

[Nigel Sykes]

Alive and well Kev.  But there's only been one post today, prior to yours...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Kevin
Lewis
Sent: 06 November 2017 12:50
To: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
Subject: [LU] Test message

Is the list down, or have I been unsubscribed?
Or something else gone wrong?

KOT.


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Re: [LU] The Banished

[Nigel Sykes]

All very odd.  Not seen anything quite like it.  And it's indefensible, no 
matter what Dr Mike thinks...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address}
Sent: 02 November 2017 23:30
To: Leeds List 2010
Subject: [LU] The Banished

Just a quickie, but is our irrational friend now off list? He’s now taken to 
sending me his best anglo-saxon directly - what a treat :-)

If anyone actually knows this bloke I reckon a quiet word might be in order 
before he has a heart attack, because he really has lost it!



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Re: [LU] Anyway....back to LUFC........new Thread

[Nigel Sykes]

I really did laugh out oud at that...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Graham
Farr
Sent: 02 November 2017 12:27
To: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
Subject: [LU] Anywayback to LUFCnew Thread

TC out !
TC out !



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Re: [LU] Atrocious

[Nigel Sykes]

Yeah, I'm on the edge here...

Nigel (the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Roy
Blackwell
Sent: 02 November 2017 12:00
To: GRAHAM THIRKILL
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Atrocious

Is this an attempt to kill the list?
Because its working

On 2 Nov 2017 11:56 am, "GRAHAM THIRKILL" 
wrote:

Turn the fucking phone off, Iv'e advised that already..WhimpHow
old are you?? Grow up, face life. Life isn't all roses. If you whinge
publicly, about other people, especially, Professional Medical people like
Dr. Micael Benjamin, you get answered publcly, with the insults you deserve.
Is that perfectly clear.You are not fit to lick Dr Michael Benjamin's boots.
Say what you want about me and that individual Heath, but Professional
Medical people who have committed their life to helping their community,
deserve the utmost respect...OK sunshineget it?
Quote "How does this play out if I actually was depressed? Quote"
As I advised get professional help,
Quote, "You're just a very annoying and sad individual and I'd rather not
have you electronically interrupting my day with your shit posts,
thanks."..
And you whoever you think you are, are a very sad whimp who sounds like a
mummy's boy and should be more respectful to professional people.
I hope I haven't hurt your feelings again.get over it...I don't
normally waste as much of my time with people like you but I have nothing
better to do today so you are very, very fortunate.
Another hilarious Quote from your reply "I'd rather not have you
electronically interrupting my day with your shit posts, thanks".

...That is just wonderful, "electronically interupting my day" how
old are you are you a male

That's all for now IanThirkers, (The Legend)


On Thursday, 2 November 2017, 11:04, Ian Murray <
ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote:


 #yiv8215636322 -- .yiv8215636322EmailQuote
{margin-left:1pt;padding-left:4pt;border-left:#80
2px solid;}#yiv8215636322 What the fuck is this?
Im fine thanks but to be honest this response is ridiculous. How does this
play out if I actually was depressed? What would your post achieve?
You're just a very annoying and sad individual and and I'd rather not have
you electronically interrupting my day with your shit posts, thanks


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 Original message From: GRAHAM THIRKILL <
graham.thirki...@btinternet.com> Date: 02/11/2017 17:55 (GMT+08:00) To:
leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Atrocious "Quote from a tragic
lister;_ ianjamesmur...@hotmil.com"Actually makes me feel like
unsubscribing. It is a particular Yorkshire trait to pretend to enjoy misery
and try to exacerbate it in others (especially in sport), but it's shit. I'm
sure he's a nice guy and all, but I just delete his nonsense. It's annoying
that my phone buzzes with constant shit though.
Between him, MDM and Heath' s lovely rapartee I'm thinking "Do I need this
shit interrupting my life?". If you want to wind people up, join a message
board.
Maybe I'm just stressed with work atm and tolerance levels are low, but it's
always irritated me. I've been on the list since 2000."---Ian
James, my heart goes out to you, this is a heartbreaking story of a Leeds
lister with severe deep depression. Don't worry it's very common with Leeds
listers. No one, not even a Leeds lister should have to encounter this
terrible illness. Are you having nasty thoughts about yourself.? Actually,
one of the people you are whinging, moaning and crying about is a wonderful
gentleman and a Professional Psychiarist. Of course I am referring to my
dear Leeds born, Friend and "Real Leeds Fan", Dr Michael Benjamim. He will
help you if reach out to him and say sorry for bitching about him. If you
will take my advice I think you should contact Dr Benjamin sooner rather
than later. You sound pretty desperate to me, with, stress with work,
tolerance levels, irritation, phone buzzes, etc etc. Are you sure you are
not having bad thoughts about yourse  lf? The phone buzzes must be dreadful
and the worst of your terrible problems for you, it's such a shame. How old
are you???Anyhow ianjames just to recap on my two suggestions, contact
the wonderful Dr, Michael Benjamin, he has spent a lifetime treating people
who are in your condition, they were not ALL Leeds lister fans, I hasten to
add. I would say contact him immediately. I think you are having nasty
thoughts about yourself, My second suggestion is quite simple. Turn the
fucking phone off.Thirkers (The Legend)PS. Ianjames this was written, in an
effort, to try to cheer you up a little bit. I hope my email has helped to
lessen the stress, tolerance levels, irritation, shit, phone buzzes etc etc
etc etc etc somewhat. My goodness me you poor little lost lamb I do feel so
sorry for you, especially when you mention, you have been on the 

Re: [LU] Atrocious

[Nigel Sykes]

Hula hoops?  Pah!  At least he didn't turn up with a carrier bag full of whale 
meat like that mad Noggie bloke who used to be on here (can't remember his 
name?).  Tried to get the staff at the Adelphi to cook it for him...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Peter 
Castlehouse
Sent: 01 November 2017 09:55
To: '{broken-address}'; 'GRAHAM THIRKILL'
Cc: 'Leeds List'
Subject: Re: [LU] Atrocious

My last memory of this bloke Thirkers was at a List Meet at the Adelphi around 
the turn of the century, where he brought along a carrier bag full - I shit you 
not - of Hula Hoops!  Yes, Hula Hoops!  At least Kewell scored to take us to 
victory, and I had Betty Boocock as Mein Host pre/during/post game!   Not sure 
what perverse idea was going through his mind with that carrier bag at the 
time, and I call upon the good Dr Mike to analyse that one.
His last attempt at feeble humour at my expense was to mis-spell my surname 
into derivatives of it, Castleford, Castleton, et cetera.   So sad, and I'd 
like to collect a quid for every time it's happened, either in jest or is all 
seriousness.
I also have it on good authority that the supply of incontinence pads to the 
North-East has grown since he re-joined the list.   Sadly, his recent 
contributions consist of blathering on about our third-rate team, and how much 
better the Premmy League teams are doing!
Perhaps Thirkers is trying to emulate the legend and self-effacing ex-God of 
the list, the one and only Voice Of Football, but he is pathetically failing on 
every facet.
As we used to say in the Forces about such people as Thirkers... 'tries hard, 
fails miserably, but works well under constant supervision...'
ALAW?
Pete C
t'original one

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address}
Sent: 01 November 2017 20:20
To: GRAHAM THIRKILL 
Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] Atrocious

I doubt I’m alone when wondering why this chump keeps posting this crap, but I 
content myself that he is of an age where he probably shits himself twice a 
week! That’s satisfying enough! 

Sent from my iPad

> On 1 Nov 2017, at 07:57, GRAHAM THIRKILL  
> wrote:
> 
> Nicholas Armit armitn at yahoo.com  quote I thought we did fine first 
> half and even though they had some pressure second they were nowhere 
> near as good as Sheffield Utd quote
> 
> The stats say Leeds had only 40% to Derby's 60% of the play in the 
> first half, so you must have missed quite a bit of the game, unless it 
> was those rose tinted spectacles of yours..hahahahaha You experts have 
> just three days to sort out the team selection, management problens, 
> player problems, tactics laundry, boot cleaning, sweeping the stands, 
> cutting the grass  and all the other problems you wannabee managers 
> have to discuss, hahahahaha Remember, it's only a game you have a 
> rubbish team get used to it, you should know better after all these 
> years in the third and second division that you are in now. What is it 
> now, five games on the trot lost, it's only 15 points plus another 3 
> on Saturday at Brentford maybe yiu are on a roll for a club 
> recordhahahahaha Anyhow leedslisters, I hope my message has cheered 
> you all up. I can't imagine how it feels for all of you.it must be 
> terrible, FIVE OUT OF DEFEATS IN THE SECOND DIVISION AFTER BEING ON 
> TOP FOR 5 MINUTES Not so loud Cheers & Beers,Thirkers, (The Legend) 
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Nigel Sykes]

Ha!  You're right!  It wasn't even Rob's joke about Israel!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 26 October 2017 15:53
To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit; Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh; Graham White; 
{broken-address} Graham White; Mark
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

 Matt was the instigator (harmlessly no doubt) Dr Mike responded to his email I 
believe:
|-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
> |Matt Anderson
> |Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:30 AM
> |To: Rob Heath 
> |Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> |Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the 
> |point..LU (ish)
> |
> |Just noticed big order coming in from Israel

On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 10:50:36 AM EDT, Mark 
 wrote:  
 
 Agree, I didn't notice anything provocative from Rob. I think the "dr" was in 
the wrong this time.

Mark
El Presidente Wisconsin Whites
Leeds United
Chicago Fire

From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
Nicholas Armit 
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 9:05:29 AM
To: Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh; Graham White; {broken-address} Graham White
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Looked to me like Mike misread a post from someone else as coming from Rob. In 
that case I feel Rob deserves an apology.
Nick
On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 9:42:28 AM EDT, {broken-address} Graham 
White  wrote:

 I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was that, 
as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob Heath and 
yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane ranting.

Cheers


Graham White


On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh  
wrote:

 I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse  wrote:
>
> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
> John Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson 
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU 
> (ish)
>
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll 
> let you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm 
> still here of course)
>
> Big Terry
>
>
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>> ​Will it be a binding referendum?
>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? 
>> Will there be a transition period?
>> ​
>>
>>
>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock > > wrote:
>>
>>Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>Bridge (some of this is true)
>>
>>I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>re sub them.
>>
>>Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>/ No?
>>
>>Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>>
>>
>>
>>On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>>
>>I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
>>
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Nigel Sykes]

It was all very odd wasn't it?

As far as I can see, Rob had a little poke at his old sparring partner with a 
fairly harmless (though probably ill-advised) joke about receiving book orders 
from Israel.  Then all hell broke loose from Dr Mike, who talked about emails 
from Rob that suggest him poring over and referring to old posts of his.  We 
didn't see those, so either Rob sent something off list, or Dr Mike got his 
knickers in a twist over something else.  Somehow, I can't imagine Dr Mike not 
revealing the alleged emails to the list, and yet he didn't. Either way, I 
can't see why Dr Mike brought his ire to the list.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

> Agree, I didn't notice anything provocative from Rob. I think the "dr" was in 
> the wrong this time.
>
> Mark
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Nigel Sykes]

I was just thinking "Wow, that escalated quickly!"

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

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From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Graham White
Sent: 25 October 2017 20:56
To: Matt Anderson; Rob Heath; Michael Benjamin
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Wow, just got back from playing bridge, having a few drinks, and an excellent 
Italian meal at Angelos (if you are ever in Port de Pollenca give it a try - 
only open during the season) and I see this.

OK I've read through this thread several times now and I can't see anything 
that relates to Dr Benjamin's post, so either he's suffering from paranoid 
schizophrenia, or he's replying to a personal message to the whole list.

Either way it's time this was stopped, Betty can you please take him off the 
list.

MOT

Graham White

On Wednesday, 25 October 2017, 19:30:51 CEST, Michael Benjamin 
 wrote:  
 
 You amazingly weird twat. 
Imagine storing all my posts and remembering when to and what was in them. Do 
you wear kinky gear and sit in dark room playing with yourself as you read 
them-- under your picture of Eva Braun.  Try putting a plastic bag over your 
face too. 
I deal with really sick people, and I have seen some bloody creepy stuff. 
However, to obsess over the letters of someone you loath is way up there. BTW, 
although I will not let you run wild, no one is in the least bit interested in 
our thread. I have written that too-- did you miss in the height of your 
orgasm? 
Please, pretend I am dead. Don't drag me into your moronic gratuitous insults. 

Dr  Michael Benjamin,
Community Psychiatrist.

SKYPE: BEDENOGA
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|-Original Message-
|From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Matt 
|Anderson
|Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:30 AM
|To: Rob Heath 
|Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
|Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU 
|(ish)
|
|Just noticed big order coming in from Israel
|
|Sent from my iPhone
|
|> On 25 Oct 2017, at 08:57, Rob Heath  wrote:
|>
|> Boys & Girls..
|>
|> A few months back, I notified this list of the publication of my 
|> first novel. I told you all that there was a little bit of an LUFC 
|> connection in there. I thought that, plus list loyalty, would be 
|> enough to persuade you all to buy it.
|>
|> However, in the intervening period, I have been surprised to receive 
|> a grand total of ZERO emails telling me how great/funny/fascinating 
|> etc the novel is! I can only assume that NONE of you have bought the bloody 
thing!
|>
|> Come on, be honest...put your hand up if you have bought 
|> my novel.
|>
|> H..just as I thought.
|>
|> So I'm going to try again:
|>
|> It is actually *incredibly *LUish! There's a whole chapter (or part 
|> of
|> one) concerning the League Cup semifinal away leg against Forest.
|> Every single character who had to have their name changed to prevent 
|> me being sued (ie everyone in the book) has been given the name of a 
|> Leeds
|player!
|>
|> Plus, it is super-footbally all the way through.
|>
|> Basically, this book will appeal to anybody who...supports 
|> LUFC, likes football, is a teacher (esp. an overseas one), is an 
|> expat, has been to Morocco. How many of those boxes do you tick?
|>
|> The book as been described by one critic as "James Herriot meets Hunter S.
|> Thompson." How appealing is that?!
|>
|> So come on! Buy a copy now.better still, buy 5 and give 
|> the others as xmas presents to anybody you know who also ticks any or 
|> all of those boxes.
|>
|> (Why this desperate plea? Well, I'm working on the next novel, and I 
|> need good sales to persuade the publisher to give me a decent deal!)
|>
|> Details: *"A Tangerine Dream" by Rob Heath. *Supposedly available at 
|> all major bookshops (although I couldn't find a single copy in any 
|> shop I looked in during the summer) and deffo on Amazon.
|>
|> Apologies to anybody annoyed by this message cluttering up your inbox.
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Nigel Sykes]

Oh, go on then...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Rob Heath
Sent: 25 October 2017 08:57
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Boys & Girls..

A few months back, I notified this list of the publication of my first
novel. I told you all that there was a little bit of an LUFC connection in
there. I thought that, plus list loyalty, would be enough to persuade you
all to buy it.

However, in the intervening period, I have been surprised to receive a grand
total of ZERO emails telling me how great/funny/fascinating etc the novel
is! I can only assume that NONE of you have bought the bloody thing!

Come on, be honest...put your hand up if you have bought my
novel.

H..just as I thought.

So I'm going to try again:

It is actually *incredibly *LUish! There's a whole chapter (or part of one)
concerning the League Cup semifinal away leg against Forest. Every single
character who had to have their name changed to prevent me being sued (ie
everyone in the book) has been given the name of a Leeds player!

Plus, it is super-footbally all the way through.

Basically, this book will appeal to anybody who...supports LUFC,
likes football, is a teacher (esp. an overseas one), is an expat, has been
to Morocco. How many of those boxes do you tick?

The book as been described by one critic as "James Herriot meets Hunter S.
Thompson." How appealing is that?!

So come on! Buy a copy now.better still, buy 5 and give the
others as xmas presents to anybody you know who also ticks any or all of
those boxes.

(Why this desperate plea? Well, I'm working on the next novel, and I need
good sales to persuade the publisher to give me a decent deal!)

Details: *"A Tangerine Dream" by Rob Heath. *Supposedly available at all
major bookshops (although I couldn't find a single copy in any shop I looked
in during the summer) and deffo on Amazon.

Apologies to anybody annoyed by this message cluttering up your inbox.
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Re: [LU] Cardiff

[Nigel Sykes]

That's disappointing.  Do none of them have more than one screen (with 2 or 
more boxes, obviously), so they can show different games in different parts of 
the bar?

I remember once, being in Boston and wanting to watch a particular NFL game, 
but the bars were all showing the Patriots' one.  But the barman helpfully put 
my game on one screen and I sat and happily watched it on my own!

Nigel 
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Graham White
Sent: 26 September 2017 09:41
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Guy Thornton
Subject: Re: [LU] Cardiff

It's very frustrating here in Port de Pollenca,  the game is on live and there 
are loads of sports bars here but they are all showing the Champs league games! 
 Haven't been able to find one showing the Cardiff game :-(

Graham


Lao T'se 

On Tuesday, 26 September 2017, 00:31:26 CEST, Guy Thornton 
 wrote:  
 
 
Anyone getting to together in (north/central) London to watch the game tomorrow?
If so where

guy
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Re: [LU] FW: LUTV abroad - question

[Nigel Sykes]

To be honest, I suspect that Leeds United will be doing the absolute minimum 
they have to (IP blocking) in order to not break any rules, while 
simultaneously bringing in nice, juicy fivers for the LUFC coffers...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of David W
Sent: 19 September 2017 16:22
To: N
Cc: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
Subject: Re: [LU] FW: LUTV abroad - question

I pay using my U.K. bank card which is registered to a U.K. Address with no 
issues. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 19. Sep 2017, at 17:12, N  wrote:
> 
> I usually watch, from home, in the USA but, have had no problems connecting 
> when on vacation in Cancun and St. Maarten so you should be fine. I would 
> contact the club to see if the IP address is enough or if you'll need to 
> enter the hotel address as your home when registering. Obviously, if you pay 
> by credit card you'd need to enter your home address in the payment which may 
> confuse the system...probably better to use PayPal.  
> 
> Bottom line, you should be fine but it can't harm to double check with the 
> club.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> .
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Re: [LU] FW: LUTV abroad - question

[Nigel Sykes]

FYI - I used a PayPal account with an Irish registered address, and it was fine.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of N
Sent: 19 September 2017 16:12
Cc: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
Subject: Re: [LU] FW: LUTV abroad - question

I usually watch, from home, in the USA but, have had no problems connecting 
when on vacation in Cancun and St. Maarten so you should be fine. I would 
contact the club to see if the IP address is enough or if you'll need to enter 
the hotel address as your home when registering. Obviously, if you pay by 
credit card you'd need to enter your home address in the payment which may 
confuse the system...probably better to use PayPal.  

Bottom line, you should be fine but it can't harm to double check with the club.




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Re: [LU] LUTV abroad - question

[Nigel Sykes]

You pay by the day (actually, you get 3 days' access).  Simply by connecting
from an IP Address outside the UK or Ireland, you should be able to watch
it.

When you register, it asks for an address.  The one thing I'm not sure about
is if you HAVE to put a 'foreign' one in there - I have a French address, so
was able to use that anyway.

Nigel
(the Dublin (and sometimes France) one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ian
Murray
Sent: 19 September 2017 13:59
To: nat...@sky.com; Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] LUTV abroad - question

I buy them as I want them here in Aus. Stream is usually good, costs £5.

Not sure what the eu rules are, or if the canaries are considered even in
the EU.



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: nat...@sky.com
Date: 19/09/2017 20:45 (GMT+08:00)
To: Leeds List 
Subject: [LU] LUTV abroad - question

I am going abroad in a few weeks (Lanzarote) and missing Reading home game -
is it possible I can get a day pass thing and watch online ?
The Sheff Wed game is on Sky so I will be able to find a pub to watch it
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Re: [LU] Millwall

[Nigel Sykes]

Pretty much how I saw it too.  We are too lightweight in midfield to go up
against teams with big, bruising players like Millwall (and Brum) have.  In
fact, this game just seemed like an extension of that Brum game in many ways
- half a yard off the pace and lacking in any first touch.

I'm a little disappointed in Alioski in the last two games - he'd looked
like a little terrier previously, all Batty-esque in his tackling - but he's
been a different player since coming back from the game off he was given.

Here's hoping that TC has learned something, but I'm not that convinced we
have enough midfield steel available elsewhere to make that much difference.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
{broken-address}
Sent: 17 September 2017 13:45
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Millwall

Guys (and gals?),


Have I fallen off the list, or are you all stunned into digital silence by
yesterday's events? Not a single email about the Millwall game?


Anyway, thanks to the official site's streaming offer, I was able to watch
this game as I have all of the other league games this season. I thought it
was the first game where Christiansen got his team selection completely
wrong. I've mentioned before that I thought we looked a little lightweight
going forward this season, Wood/Lasogga aside, and this game underlined the
point. Going into the Den with Hernandez, Saiz and Alioski in the first XI
was a mistake. This was exactly the sort of game in which Hernandez went
missing last season, and so it proved again. Our midfield were second to
every loose ball and, when they did have it at their feet, were muscled off
it too easily (as has frequently been the case this season). You have to
earn the right to play against teams like Millwall, and we played like this
information came as a shock. It should not have been.


A better team selection would have seen us go 4-5-1 with the feisty Berardi
replacing Anita, who had a shocking game, Ronaldo Vieira adding bite and
steel in the center of midfield, and Dallas on the wing, with Hernandez and
Alioski on the bench. I'd have been tempted to put Klich on the field in
place of Saiz as well. Once we've held our own in midfield and the Millwall
battlers start to tire, then bring on Alioski and Saiz on in the second half
to start to exploit the space that might have started to appear. 


Christiansen's decision to make just the one enforced change (Shaughnessy
for the injured Cooper) meant we were facing a very physical game with a
first XI that was going into what was sure to be a very physical game less
than four days after ten of them had ground out a difficult win in a very
tiring game. Predictably, they looked exhausted long before the final
whistle. There's no point in bringing in 16 players over the summer if we
don't use the strength in depth that the squad now has.


Nonetheless, it didn't help that Cooper's injury from Birmingham game kept
him out of the squad. Shaughnessy didn't do too much wrong (although getting
booked for dissent in the first half was stupid, and presumably forced him
to temper his challenges in the second half), but the defence this season
has looked calmer with Captain Coops in command. Jansson's injury meant that
we were forced to chase the game in the last ten minutes a man down. We can
only hope it's not a serious injury (looked like a hamstring) and that
Pennington and Cooper recover quickly.


Christiansen and various players have said they have learned from the game.
I hope so. This was a needless three points to give away.


Cheers!


Sean
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Re: [LU] Brum

[Nigel Sykes]

Nice report & I agree with it all.  The main feature last night was just the 
lack of 'sparkle' in us, which  meant we were half a yard off the previous 
pace, and many of the first-touch passes just didn't come off.  In particular, 
it made Saiz looked like one of those players who tries to be clever all the 
time, to no real effect, when previously he's looked awesome.  All of which 
allowed a busy Brum team to get into the game.  Our defence (especially Pontus) 
were great, and we never really looked in much danger of losing, but a draw was 
certainly a possibility.  I thought Alioski looked the most lacklustre, which 
is odd, given that he'd had a rest on Saturday.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 13 September 2017 11:02
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Brum

"we are top the league, say we are top the league" - repeat and repeat Hard to 
believe but we are indeed top of the league with a very impressive 17 pts from 
7 games and a brilliant goal difference of 12 - with just two conceeded.
Ok last night was not Burton re-visited but i felt overall we deserved the 3 
points in a hard fought game that ebbed and flowed in terms of possession, 
terrority and chances.
We started very well, pretty much where we left off at Burton - really getting 
at them, disturbing their rythmn and forcing them into errors. When we had the 
ball we passed and moved it pulling them all over and creating gaps. It was a 
joy to watch again, and it was no surprise when we scored - already forcing one 
save and one goal line clearance from them. The goal whilst not a classic did 
have a lot going for it - a lovely long ball over the top (from O'Kane ?) led 
to Lasogga and the defender chasing it , Lasogga used his strength and power to 
win the ball and then he hit it from a tight angle - he shoots as hard as 
anyone we have had since Yeboah- and the keeper could only parry it. Saiz 
showed both bravery and awareness following it in and beating both two 
defenders and the keeper to force it over the line. it brought to mind the time 
i lost it with Kilkenny at Tranmere away when he bottled it in similar 
conditions. This showed that Saiz is more than just the maestro.
After the goal we tried to continue giving an exhibition but we looked 
complacent and were over-doing it. You need to earn the right to play like that 
and we had not done it. So from being brilliant we began to be sloppy and let 
them get a foothold in the game. We nearly paid for our slackness when the 
keeper came for  a ball in a bit of a mix up and the Birmingham forward beat 
him to it and the header looped over Wiedwald and towards the goal. However we 
do not like conceeding goals and so Luke Ayling popped up out of nowhere with a 
tremendous goal saving clearance So we just about went in at half time one up 
and just about deserved it. 

We hoped to come out second half pumped up but failed to do so and the game was 
pretty even for the next 30 minutes - we even saw Wiedwald make a save ! At the 
other end Lasogga and Saiz both came close.  On the hour the largely 
disappointing Alioski was taken off and replaced by Roofe who was unlucky not 
to start. Roofe did add an edge of quality and commitment but by this time we 
were starting to look leggy and tired. Lasogga especially looked ready to drop. 
This allowed Brum to take a bit of control without ever really threatening as 
Pontus just headed away anything in the air Our rthymn and choices for 
substituions were further hampered as Cooper started limping and had to be 
subbed. Beradi coming on and Ayling being moved to centre half.  We continued 
to look solid at the back but most fans were nervously watching the clock and 
hoping for it to speed up Then horror of horrors, somehow the referee found 5 
minutes of time to be added on. A worrying gasp went round the crowd, could
  we last out ? We even got a break and took it into the corner to waste time - 
a sure sign of the team wanting the final  whistle. 

Then just as we worried a bit Lasogga got the ball just over the half way line 
and as he passed it forward to Dallas (on as a late sub for Hernandez) he was 
fouled - great this would see out a few more seconds we thought, but no, the 
ref decided to wave play on (rubbish decision we all thought in the 
circumstances) as Dallas ran forward with the ball then cut inside and hit a 
shot just inside the near post - 2 0 and only a minute to go . Another win, 
another clean sheet and "we are top the league"
So not a classic performance after the first 30minutes and whilst I disagree 
big time with Redknapp and his "complete and utter domination" comments I do 
think they slightly shaded the second half without ever really looking like 
scoring. I think had it stayed at 1 0 we would have gone 'yeah, fair result'
So the 6 points that we wanted from the two home games and our solid defending 
goes on.

Re: [LU] 5 nil

[Nigel Sykes]

Best game in years!  Tremendous performance.  I think we have more players
who are comfortable on the ball than we've had since the early 70's!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John
Boocock
Sent: 09 September 2017 16:27
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] 5 nil

Lasogga again 5 nil :-) everybody sing "Leeds Leeds falling apaart
again"

Sent from the North!
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Re: [LU] Newport

[Nigel Sykes]

Yeah, and apparently 16,468 away fans - surely a record!?

Nigel 
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard
Naef
Sent: 22 August 2017 21:52
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Newport

Not anywhere as comfortable as the score suggests, but in the past we may
well have lost this type of game.  Early 18000, might be the highest in the
compo

ttfn

Richard

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Re: [LU] Fulham

[Nigel Sykes]

It's on the main website, in the LUTV section 
(https://www.leedsunited.com/lutv).  You have to register and then when you go 
back to the site and login, you select "Match Centre" at the very top, then 
"International Match Centre" on the middle-right of the screen that appears 
(nobody says they made it easy!).  Then the live link appears (when there is a 
game to watch, naturally).  It being Leeds, when you click the play icon, all 
it does it being up another play icon, in a different colour(!), but if you 
persevere, it finally plays.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2017 13:02
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: RE: [LU] Fulham

Hi Nigel,

Have you got a link, I'd like to give it a go (I have IPVanish) 

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:37
To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 5 
quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).


I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would probably 
need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish etc.) to spoof 
your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.

The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
(it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to an 
Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

 

From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
games ? 

 

and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
the UK to be able to access ?

 

  _  

From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them live, 
if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if we 
haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque fashion, 
then we still need these guys.

My biggest rant has consistently been about Roofe.  I cannot understand how he 
gets a game.

But the biggest take-away so far is that we need time and a more consistent 
team selection, to give them a chance to get used to each other more.  At the 
end of the day, I'm happier with what I've seen so far than I have been in 
years.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 16 August 2017 11:14
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

It is all about opinions BUT in addition to Phil Hay I would refer you to Teds 
comments "Shaunesseey looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch 
tackle at the end was a match winning tackle."
and this from Moscow white of the square Ball - " And overall Shaughnessy 
looked calm, composed and competent to an almost ludicrous degree" so clearly I 
was not alone in my assessment of him and I stand by what I said.
It has been difficult at the back with two left backs (Berardi and CBJ) and two 
centre halves (Pennington & Cooper) getting injured and having to miss games. 
We have started all 4 games so far with different line-ups, some having a 
player out of position (Anita and ayling)  Bolton - Ayling, Cooper, Pennington 
Berardi, Port Vale - Anita Ayling Shaughnessey Borthwick-JacksonPreston - 
Ayling Jansson Cooper Borthwick- JacksonFulham - Ayling, Jansson Shaughnessey 
Anita Dave


  From: Errand Fivefold <errand.fivef...@talk21.com>
To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 9:30
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Shaughnessey? Unless both Allard and I were in a parrallel universe and not at 
the match last night, Shaughnessey couldn't pass a ball!!
Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

  From: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Nigel Sykes]

The new scheme allows you to watch any non-televised game, home and away, for 5 
quid a time (actually, you get 3 days access for your fiver).


I’m currently in France, so haven’t had to flaunt any rules.  But I heard of 
someone who was watching yesterday’s game in London.  I’m guessing that they 
will do an IP address check to block UK and Ireland IP’s, so you would probably 
need a VPN (there are many available. e.g. TunnelBear, IPVanish etc.) to spoof 
your IP to somewhere abroad, if you are in the UK or Ireland.

The sign-up asks you which country you are in, but doesn’t ask for an address 
(it did ask for a telephone number, and I have a French one anyway, but that 
probably isn’t significant).  I paid through a PayPal account registered to an 
Irish address, and that wasn’t a problem.

Nigel 
(the Dublin one)

 

From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: 16 August 2017 12:15
To: Nigel Sykes; 'Leeds List'
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

does the new arrangement allow you to watch all away games i.e non-sky away 
games ? 

 

and if so, is there a way of getting around the fact that you're not outside 
the UK to be able to access ?

 

  _  

From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
To: 'Leeds List' <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 11:49
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

 

Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them live, 
if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if we 
haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque 
fashion, then we still need these guys.

My biggest rant has consistently been about Roofe.  I cannot understand how he 
gets a game.

But the biggest take-away so far is that we need time and a more consistent 
team selection, to give them a chance to get used to each other more.  At the 
end of the day, I'm happier with what I've seen so far than I have been in 
years.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 16 August 2017 11:14
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

It is all about opinions BUT in addition to Phil Hay I would refer you to Teds 
comments "Shaunesseey looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch 
tackle at the end was a match winning tackle."
and this from Moscow white of the square Ball - " And overall Shaughnessy 
looked calm, composed and competent to an almost ludicrous degree" so clearly I 
was not alone in my assessment of him and I stand by what I said.
It has been difficult at the back with two left backs (Berardi and CBJ) and two 
centre halves (Pennington & Cooper) getting injured and having to miss games. 
We have started all 4 games so far with different line-ups, some having a 
player out of position (Anita and ayling)  Bolton - Ayling, Cooper, Pennington 
Berardi, Port Vale - Anita Ayling Shaughnessey Borthwick-JacksonPreston - 
Ayling Jansson Cooper Borthwick- JacksonFulham - Ayling, Jansson Shaughnessey 
Anita Dave


  From: Errand Fivefold <errand.fivef...@talk21.com>
To: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>; Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 9:30
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Shaughnessey? Unless both Allard and I were in a parrallel universe and not at 
the match last night, Shaughnessey couldn't pass a ball!!
Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

  From: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com>
To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 7:00
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target
Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very different 
as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing , and 
indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they pinged it 
about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a torrid time of 
it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and he looked a 
different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The team as a 
whole got a lift from this and the match was more even.
Both teams however had a real lack of a cutting edge up front so all the fancy 
dan stuff went with no reward. We had only one shot on target (apart from 
Wood's offside 'goal') - a ball was played through to Wood and since he was a 
lot clos

Re: [LU] Fulham

[Nigel Sykes]

Have watched every game so far (I'm loving this new ability to watch them live, 
if you're outside the UK & Ireland!).  Thought Shaughnessey looked okay 
defensively, but I agree with Verner in that he looks lacking in the passing 
department.  It's like Philips - everyone goes on about his work rate and the 
number of tackles he makes - which is all great, of course - but his 
distribution is woeful.  Having said all that, you need ball winners, and if we 
haven't got ball winners who can also pass the ball in Batty-esque 
fashion, then we still need these guys.

My biggest rant has consistently been about Roofe.  I cannot understand how he 
gets a game.

But the biggest take-away so far is that we need time and a more consistent 
team selection, to give them a chance to get used to each other more.  At the 
end of the day, I'm happier with what I've seen so far than I have been in 
years.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 16 August 2017 11:14
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham

It is all about opinions BUT in addition to Phil Hay I would refer you to Teds 
comments "Shaunesseey looked pretty assured for a newbie - his latch ditch 
tackle at the end was a match winning tackle."
and this from Moscow white of the square Ball - " And overall Shaughnessy 
looked calm, composed and competent to an almost ludicrous degree" so clearly I 
was not alone in my assessment of him and I stand by what I said.
It has been difficult at the back with two left backs (Berardi and CBJ) and two 
centre halves (Pennington & Cooper) getting injured and having to miss games. 
We have started all 4 games so far with different line-ups, some having a 
player out of position (Anita and ayling)  Bolton - Ayling, Cooper, Pennington 
Berardi, Port Vale - Anita Ayling Shaughnessey Borthwick-JacksonPreston - 
Ayling Jansson Cooper Borthwick- JacksonFulham - Ayling, Jansson Shaughnessey 
Anita Dave


  From: Errand Fivefold 
 To: "nat...@sky.com" ; Leeds List  
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 9:30
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
   
Shaughnessey? Unless both Allard and I were in a parrallel universe and not at 
the match last night, Shaughnessey couldn't pass a ball!!
 Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2017, 7:00
 Subject: Re: [LU] Fulham
  
Well we were promised goals, entertaining football and a side that would have a 
philosophy of 'we will score more than you' - not really working out like that 
as we have now gone 3 hours at home without a goal and with barely a shot on 
target
Although the result was the same as Saturday the game itsef was very different 
as Fulham tried to play football rather than just stopping us playing , and 
indeed they succeeded for much of the time. The first 25 minutes they pinged it 
about and we looked second best. Phillips in particular having a torrid time of 
it, then he made on good tackle which raised his confidence and he looked a 
different player, getting stuck in and moving the ball well. The team as a 
whole got a lift from this and the match was more even.
Both teams however had a real lack of a cutting edge up front so all the fancy 
dan stuff went with no reward. We had only one shot on target (apart from 
Wood's offside 'goal') - a ball was played through to Wood and since he was a 
lot closer to goal this time, I did think he may score, but no, he tried , not 
very well, to chip the keeper and made it an easy save
Second half Phillips had a shot from range that fizzed past, Hernandez had a 
awful freekick from a brilliant position , and Siaz pulled a shot just wide. 
Fulham were as blunt as us and I can only recall Wiedwald making one save when 
he came rushing out at the feet of the striker - good action from him. Fulham 
aslo hit the post. Perhaps the closest we came was a great cross from Dallas 
that just missed the outstretched foot of Wood
So after 32k on saturday over 28K (great for an ordinary midweek league game 
for us) fans saw us pass the ball around a bit but have no shots or chances 
worthy of the name. Things will need to improve. Fulham will be up there at the 
end of the season, so a draw could be a creditable result, having said that 2 
pts from 2 home games is not good enough and puts us under pressure to get all 
3 pts at Sunderland
Some general observations - Shaunnessey is looking like a real find, he is 
growing in confidence and may soon be giving TC a real selection headache. 
Anita is a tidy player and good at this level, but not a left back. Saiz is 
looking like the real deal - needs to cut out the moaning, diving, showing 
imaginary cards and needs to be a bit stronger but I do have faith in him. 
Alioski is the opposite so far he shows the odd flash of 

Re: [LU] totally non LU - scum of the earth

[Nigel Sykes]

I have no words...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} John Lee
Sent: 27 July 2017 10:40
To: John Boocock; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] totally non LU - scum of the earth

Sickening!!!

  From: John Boocock 
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2017, 9:35
 Subject: Re: [LU] totally non LU - scum of the earth
   
  Dave, we are your mates, if you can't rant at us where can you rant.

  We are with you kid!

  Betty

  Sent from the North!

  On 27 Jul 2017 09:18, Ted  wrote:

That's shocking Dave.  What those little sh1ts did is unforgivable,
they
should be punished for what they did.
I can't begin to imagine what its like to lose a child, my heart
goes out
to Emma, her family and yourself.
...and if you can't "vent" on here, where can you vent!!!
Ted H
On 26 July [1]2017 at 22:12, [2]nat...@sky.com <[3]nat...@sky.com>
wrote:
> This post is nothing at all to do with LUFC or football but I am
so angry
> and upset I just need to vent a bit - so feel free to delete
without reading
> My 6 year old neice, Lexi,  died last year after a long and
painful
> terminal illness. As you can imagine that is pretty upsetting and
even more
> so for her mum (Emma) Dad  and siblings
> Anyway I got home from a great night at cubs tonight to find my
wife a bit
> upset
>Â  Emma had been to Lexis grave and caught a lad and his mates
(they got
> away) destroying the grave, they have smashed the ornaments,
broken flowers
> and even worse broken a small pink money box into which  her 10
year old
> sister Ellie puts one pence each time she visits, and they nicked
the money
> - all 88pence of it.
> Somehow Emma restrained both herself and the kid concerned - how
she did
> not batter him I am not sure, till police came
> The kid is 11 and his mates the same age - police put him back of
the van
> and tried to put the fear of god up him - the kid was hysterical,
they said
> they would do what they could but given his age etc
> Emma is heartbroken as you can imagine - the cross has been ripped
from
> the grave and everything trashed - and wants to 'dig Lexi up and
bring her
> home'
> I know there is nothing anyone can say or do but I am so angry and
upset
> words fail me and I just needed to vent a bit
> It makes you despair for humanity - they are old enough to know
and
> understand what they were doing for 'fun' and that it was so
obviously the
> grave of a little girl
> Myself and my wife are going to shops tomorrow and will buy what
we can to
> replace the broken stuff but it will not be the same
> Sorry to put this on any of you (if you have read this far)
> Like I say scum of the earth
> Dave
>
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Re: [LU] New match for tomorrow

[Nigel Sykes]

Match now confirmed for 7pm CET (6pm UK)

 

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

 

From: Nigel Sykes [mailto:ni...@sykesonline.com] 
Sent: 16 July 2017 21:21
To: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
Subject: New match for tomorrow

 

Leeds have added a preseason friendly against Bursaspor (Turkey) to replace
the one cancelled by the scared German police.

KO is tomorrow at 15:00 (not sure if that is UK time or CET), and it will
supposedly be broadcast live on Busaspor's YouTube channel
(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwR4mXD5d5jTbdZUadFfhFg).

 

Nigel

(the Dublin one)

 

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[LU] New match for tomorrow

[Nigel Sykes]

Leeds have added a preseason friendly against Bursaspor (Turkey) to replace
the one cancelled by the scared German police.

KO is tomorrow at 15:00 (not sure if that is UK time or CET), and it will
supposedly be broadcast live on Busaspor's YouTube channel
(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwR4mXD5d5jTbdZUadFfhFg).

 

Nigel

(the Dublin one)

 

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Re: [LU] Happy 25th anniversary to the Leeds United Electronic Mailing List

[Nigel Sykes]

Wow - a Happy Quarter of a Century to the List!

Not sure when I joined - post-vax.ox.ac.uk, but around the time I moved to 
Ireland, so around '96, I should think.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} James A. Lundon @ Yahoo!
Sent: 13 July 2017 12:14
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Happy 25th anniversary to the Leeds United Electronic Mailing List

Wow, hard to believe it's 25 years (July 1992) that this electronic mailing 
list has been on the go, in many different guises over that time too.
Hat tip to Mark Smith and Gavin Burnage for setting it up in the first place 
from suggestions made on rec.sport.soccer!  See here for the earliest reference 
I was able to find to the list there from a five minute search this minute.  
Can someone find the original notice to confirm my July 1992 date?
James Lundon (Galway White and on the list since January 1993).
P.S. Yes, I still archive the list in total and, yes, I still haven't gotten 
around to putting all these archives together in one place i.e. CD/DVD :-(.
P.P.S. Long live vax.ox.ac.uk!
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Re: [LU] Saiz sorted

[Nigel Sykes]

I really hope we sort out some defenders next.  Unless the new ethos will be 
"score more than the opposition"!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 13 July 2017 12:14
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Saiz sorted

Well it has taken a while but Simon Says has now signed a 4 yea deal. They 
think he has cost £3m Top player in Spanish 2nd Division so a step up but does 
seem to have something about him It appears as if we are signing two more in 
the next couple of days - Alioski having a medical, he has the best pedigree of 
the foreign imports, - and a young lad (another winger - someone at ER likes 
wingers-) 19yr old Rayo Vallecano midfielder Alejandro Machuca , supposedly for 
the u23s.

Get a defender sorted and make sure we do not lose Wood and things really look 
good .
I do have some reservations over the manager and clearly not all the signings 
will be a success but we seem to have a decent mix of proven players and 
'gambles' and  we do not need to improve much on last season results to get in 
play offs at the very least. Apart from Bartley (and Monk of course) we have 
not lost anyone of real importance- Taylor perhaps but he only played in half 
the games and we did not miss him

Bellusci is going so that is another plus Dave 
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Re: [LU] LUTV More details

[Nigel Sykes]

Nope - all non-TV games, home and away...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard Naef
Sent: 30 June 2017 20:57
To: 'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)'
Subject: Re: [LU] LUTV More details

Isn't the LUTV deal only for games at ER?  £110 seems about right (22 games)

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 30 June 2017 20:11
To: Leeds List 
Subject: [LU] LUTV More details

So trying to figure out how much the overseas subscription is going  to cost. 
Someone on social media posted £5 per game but in an article by Phil Hay he 
states:
"The governing body recently created the iFollow digital platform to provide 
foreign broadcasts of matches involving all 72 clubs in the Football League. 
Leeds were planning to opt out of the EFL’s scheme and provide their own 
service but iFollow is set provide United’s broadcasts under different branding 
from September onwards. At the time of its launch, the EFL estimated that the 
cost of iFollow’s streams to individual fans following one club would equate to 
£110 a year.

Read more at: New viewing deal agreed for Leeds United’s overseas fans

So interesting from a couple of perspectives. Firstly, Leeds will be using the 
iFollow service just branded differently. Secondly, there seems to be a cost of 
£110 a year which is significantly less than £5 a game.
Does anyone have any more concrete information?
Nick
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Re: [LU] LUTV for Ex-Pats: Yessss!!!

[Nigel Sykes]

Blimey!  Will be interested to see how this works (says the guy with a French 
address)...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 29 June 2017 20:41
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] LUTV for Ex-Pats: Ye!!!

LUTV now free as LUFC announce live streamingLeeds United are delighted to 
announce a number of exciting changes to LUTV  starting from next week.For the 
first time  supporters from outside the UK and Ireland will be able to watch 
the majority of Leeds United home and away league games with our new live 
streaming service.All non-matchday content will now be available free of charge 
and we will also be taking the LUTV matchday experience to all new 
levels.Speaking to LeedsUnited.com, Managing  Director, Angus Kinnear  
explained the importance of the LUTV changes,  “ This is a big day for Leeds 
United and LUTV on three fronts. Firstly the international live streaming of 
games is a new service for the forthcoming season which will allow our 
thousands of our overseas fans  the opportunity to watch any game home or away 
which isn’t being televised. We are also really pleased to be able to make LUTV 
content free on non matchdays, taking fans behind the scenes at Elland Road and 
Thorp Arch with more content and access than ever before and finally our new 
99p Matchday Pass  will include a fantastic live matchday show which includes 
the full LUTV audio commentary.”.What’s new?   
   - From next week everything including highlights, post-match interviews, 
features and daily behind the scenes access to Thorp Arch will now be free of 
charge on LUTV.
   
   - We will also be streaming Elland Road basedUnder-23  and Leeds United 
Ladies games live, along with all first team pre-match press conferences as 
part of this new service, at no extra cost.
   
   - Matchday Pass  includes full audio commentary will now be priced at just 
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Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither

[Nigel Sykes]

Personally, I'm underwhelmed and not much more.  We're being expected to place 
faith in the unknown yet again, and I for one have got precious little left in 
my 'faith bucket'.  

I'm prepared to wait and see, before I judge - what option do I have, really?  
But I can't be excited about this, and to be honest, I'm pretty fed up with not 
being excited whenever things change.  I can't honestly remember when I was 
last excited by an appointment at Leeds - be it player, manager or board level. 
 Just endless, fruitless hope, hope, hope...

Nigel
(the underwhelmed, Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 15 June 2017 15:33
To: Richard Naef; Phill Shields; Matt Anderson
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither

I liked the comment:
Christiansen joins the club from APOEL Nicosia in Cyprus after winning the 
First Division title last season, as well as leading his former club to the 
last 16 of the UEFA Europa League.

Isn't that winning 1 game ?



  From: Richard Naef 
 To: Phill Shields ; Matt Anderson 
; Richard Walker 
Cc: Leeds List 
 Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2017, 14:43
 Subject: Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither
   
#yiv6733976699 #yiv6733976699 -- .yiv6733976699EmailQuote 
{margin-left:1pt;padding-left:4pt;border-left:#80 2px solid;}#yiv6733976699 
To be fair I doubt any of us had heard of Wagner, the bloke from the wendies, 
any of the last 10 Watford managers, pottetchino, etc etc. I suspect our new 
leader has taken advice from many people on an up and coming prospect. But 
lettuce also see who he has as his backroom staff.

Sent from my Mobile

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither
From: Phill Shields
To: Matt Anderson ,Richard Walker
CC: Leeds List 

This appointment lacks ambition in my opinion and feels like a financial one as 
opposed to football. If this had been announced in the period when season 
tickets were up for renewal it would have certainly had a negative impact.

Apparently AR was very impressed with TC at the interview, my question is how 
did he even get an interview?

When looking for the qualities to manage us I would have expected the 
successful candidate to meet most of the following criteria:-


  *   Track record of management in English football and preferably the 
Championship;
  *   Ability to attract better players than we have now;
  *   Some sort of silverware in management;
  *   Able to build on what we already have.

He patently fails against 3 of that criteria. Seriously, I don’t care how good 
he was at interview, if this is the best AR can do he should have fought tough 
and nail to keep Monk.

You will have gathered that I am thoroughly pissed off. This is a massive 
gamble and, as usual, it is us the fans whose hopes and aspirations are being 
toyed with again.

It feels to me like we are doing it on the cheap yet again. Can’t wait to see 
our squad been improved by all these superstars from Cyprus football.

MOT



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Matt Anderson
Sent: 15 June 2017 13:33
To: Richard Walker
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither

He did win a title and get to europa league last 16 last year.

Got a better track record than monk

No idea what he is like but didn't fancy any of the others we were linked with

Just because we haven't heard of him doesn't mean he is rubbish

Sent from my iPhone

> On 15 Jun 2017, at 13:19, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
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> It's Dave Hockaday's foreign cousin !
> It's got disaster written all over it.
> Be careful what you wish for Cellino outers,
>
>  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
> To: Leeds List 
> Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2017, 12:05
> Subject: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither
>
> Phil Hay says TC from Cypriot team Apoel has been confirmed as new 
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Re: [LU] Monk resigned

[Nigel Sykes]

Sky Sports intimating that they have it on good authority that Monk wanted more 
than the 1 year extension and that's all he was initially offered.  Leeds 
saying they would have been prepared to talk about a longer contract, but he'd 
spat his dummy out by then.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: 25 May 2017 19:08
To: Matt Anderson; Michael Benjamin
Cc: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned

Possibly, however let's wait and hear Monk's side of things. I was however 
pointing out that if Cellino has been in charge he would have taken all the 
stick for this however it appears that Monk is getting most now rather than the 
new owner. What about the rumour that Radrizzani had been trying to get that 
Italian Watford cunt to come and manage us before triggering Monk's one year 
extension. That sounds more plausible to me. Get the coffin ready. 

  From: Matt Anderson 
 To: Michael Benjamin 
Cc: "leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)" 
 Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2017, 18:51
 Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
   
Spot on! Nothing to do with owners. He has a better job to go to. 

> On 25 May 2017, at 17:33, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> Sorry he's gone. 
> But, if you don’t want to be here -- adios. 
> No one is bigger than the club. 
> 
> Michael
> 
> Dr  Michael Benjamin,
> Community Psychiatrist.
> 
> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> PHONE: +972-505-317772
> BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;
> myRay: Online CBT
> 
> |-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
> |Richard Naef
> |Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 7:27 PM
> |To: 'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)' 
> |Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
> |
> |I hear Steven Evans is still available….
> |
> |ttfn
> |
> |Richard
> |
> |From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
> |Sent: 25 May 2017 17:22
> |To: Richard Naef ; Jeremy Adams 
> |
> |Cc: 'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)' 
> |Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
> |
> |Terry Venables ?
> |
> |
> |From: Richard Naef  |computers.co.uk>
> |To: Jeremy Adams
> |>
> |Cc: "'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)'"
> |>
> |Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2017, 17:10
> |Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
> |
> |OK If not him then who?
> |He did get Boro up and that's what we want, and what other options are there?
> |
> |ttfn
> |
> |Richard
> |
> |-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist 
> |[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org |boun...@gn.apc.org>] On Behalf Of Jeremy Adams
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> |To: John Boocock >; N If 
> |>; Leeds List 
> |>; {broken-address} 
> |Richard Walker  |broken.gn.apc.org |>>
> |Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
> |
> |Hard to imagine it's anyone other than Karanka, which is depressing.
> |
> |
> |
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Re: [LU] Play off final is ridiculous

[Nigel Sykes]

Gotta agree with Dave.  I have no problem with the final being at Wembley,
but all the other shite is ridiculous.  The team that finishes 1st gets a
trophy, the one that finishes 2nd gets nothing but the reward of promotion.
So why should the team that eventually finishes '3rd' get a trophy?  Can you
imagine them presenting a trophy for the winner of the 3rd-4th place
play-off in the World Cup?

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 20 May 2017 15:11
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Play off final is ridiculous

Is there a more stupid game in football than a play off final ?
Whilst I accept the inherent unfairness of the play off system, whereby a
team coming 6th can get promoted over a team coming 3rd, it does have some
good points.It really helps keep a season alive for so many teams and means
that unless you are in a relegation fight you almost always think 'if we win
these next few games we can get in the play offs'
I really like the play off semi finals and the atmosphere and tension that
they create with full houses at both games but the final is total nonsense I
have just had the misfortune whilst flicking through the channels to turn on
Sky sports just as the two teams (millwall and bradford) came out to
fireworks, the red carpet, the presentation line for dignitaries and then
the national anthemn - totally over the top and ridiculous This is NOT a cup
final ffs, or even a celebration of winning stuff, as per Community Shield
or Super Cup, this is two teams who were not good enough to win their league
or even come second - these are two teams who are basically, losers. Yet
here they are in a game that has all the hall marks of a real final, even to
the presenting of a trophy at the end of it This is not sour grapes on my
part - I felt it at Cardiff and even more so at Wembley when we were there-
it really bugs me.
IF this game has to be played at a neutral ground, then play it at one of
the old semi final grounds (Villa, Scum, Hillsboro etc) and play it with no
razzmatazz and no trophy (as i have said before it should be played at 3 in
the morning behind closed doors with the player being sneaked in and out in
disguise !) Yes promotion is great for the club involved but this actual
game does not deserve the accoutrements that surround it and I would say
this even if it end up being us involved next season So keep the play off
system but please change the format of the final Dave
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Re: [LU] LU: Another poor end of season result.

[Nigel Sykes]

P.S. And Charlie Taylor refusing to play for us today, in his last game, 
doesn't suggest anything good is happening behind the scenes either!

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Sykes
Sent: 07 May 2017 15:31
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] LU: Another poor end of season result.

It's been a remarkably bad turn of events, in the last few weeks.  I know that 
we weren't exactly world-beaters beforehand, and that we had quite a few "how 
on earth did we win that?" games, but to go from a team with faint hopes of 
automatic promotion to one without a hope of even a playoff place when there 
was still a game to play?  The turning point seemed to come at around the same 
time that Pontus got dropped for a game, apparently for some sort of fall out 
with Monk.  I thought at the time that I hoped that wouldn't be an indicator of 
bad moral, but maybe it was?

Nigel
(the Dublin one).

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Graham 
Thirkill
Sent: 07 May 2017 15:10
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] LU: Another poor end of season result.

LU: WTF FFS Whatever has gone so wrong at Elland Road
They can’t even beat a relegated side. It’s to be hoped they hang on to the few 
good players they have, or next season they will be in the third division. If 
it hadn’t been for the goal scoring of the lad Chris Wood, they would be with 
Wigan and the drop. 
See how vital the three points were to Burton Albion, last week it saved them 
going down, just one point less and they would have been relegated on goal 
difference, same as Blackburn Rovers have been.
Thirkers
/098\

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Re: [LU] LU: Another poor end of season result.

[Nigel Sykes]

It's been a remarkably bad turn of events, in the last few weeks.  I know that 
we weren't exactly world-beaters beforehand, and that we had quite a few "how 
on earth did we win that?" games, but to go from a team with faint hopes of 
automatic promotion to one without a hope of even a playoff place when there 
was still a game to play?  The turning point seemed to come at around the same 
time that Pontus got dropped for a game, apparently for some sort of fall out 
with Monk.  I thought at the time that I hoped that wouldn't be an indicator of 
bad moral, but maybe it was?

Nigel
(the Dublin one).

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Graham 
Thirkill
Sent: 07 May 2017 15:10
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] LU: Another poor end of season result.

LU: WTF FFS Whatever has gone so wrong at Elland Road
They can’t even beat a relegated side. It’s to be hoped they hang on to the few 
good players they have, or next season they will be in the third division. If 
it hadn’t been for the goal scoring of the lad Chris Wood, they would be with 
Wigan and the drop. 
See how vital the three points were to Burton Albion, last week it saved them 
going down, just one point less and they would have been relegated on goal 
difference, same as Blackburn Rovers have been.
Thirkers
/098\

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Re: [LU] IFollow

[Nigel Sykes]

Apparament Leeds Derby & Villa are opting out of this.

 

*sigh* of course we are…  

Nigel

(the Dublin one)

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Re: [LU] IFollow

[Nigel Sykes]

I expect that they will attempt to limit access according to IP address.  I 
have a French address, so notionally could subscribe from there, but access 
from the UK and Ireland will probably be difficult, even with that.  We will 
probably be able to use a VPN to get around that, but it will result in low 
bandwidth and a poor quality picture.  Time will tell, I guess.  We just need a 
guinea pig to try it out!

 

Nigel
(the Dublin (and Brittany) one)

 

From: Nicholas Armit [mailto:arm...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 03 May 2017 20:29
To: Nigel Sykes; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] IFollow

 

I will sign up and charge a nominal fee to use my credentials.

 

If I charge a pound a month and have 20,000 people signed up.

 

Nick

 

  _  

From: Nigel Sykes <ni...@sykesonline.com>
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] IFollow

 

*sigh* Ireland not included.  Like we can pop along to games easier than people 
in other European countries...

Nigel
(the disappointed Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 03 May 2017 19:36
To: Nicholas Armit; arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org; {broken-address}; 
leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] IFollow

More info:
The innovative new service will enable overseas EFL fans to follow their team’s 
entire 2017/18 season The EFL has today unveiled iFollow, an innovative digital 
live streaming and content platform that will revolutionise the way football 
fans overseas can follow their EFL teams. 
  
iFollow will, for the first time in English football, enable EFL fans based 
outside the UK and Ireland to watch their team during the regular EFL season. 
With an estimated 270,000 EFL fans based outside the UK, iFollow will allow 
clubs to enable their supporters to follow the action wherever they are in the 
world. 
  
Kicking off at the start of the 2017/18 EFL season, overseas subscribers will 
pay the equivalent of £110 per season for the service which will provide 
coverage of up to 46 live games per club. More than 1,500 matches will be 
available in HD quality, with iFollow showing every EFL league match live 
unless that match has been selected by the EFL’s overseas broadcast partners. 
  
Fans based in the UK and Ireland will still also have access to live audio 
commentary, highlights packages and exclusive content as part of the new 
offering, rebranded to replace the EFL’s existing PlayerHD platform. 
  
At launch, the vast majority of EFL clubs have opted in to utilise the iFollow 
platform and those who have not will have access to the same live streaming 
opportunity and will provide their fans with access through their own club 
digital services. 
  
Research commissioned by the EFL suggests that there is significant demand for 
a service like iFollow amongst fans based overseas. A survey of over 1,600 such 
fans showed that 73% would be very likely or quite likely to subscribe to a 
live match streaming service and almost half would be happy to pay an annual 
subscription fee to do so. The findings suggest over 55% of the EFL’s fans are 
located in the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand where the 
potential audience for the iFollow platform could reach into the hundreds of 
thousands. 
  
EFL Chief Executive Shaun Harvey commented: “The launch of iFollow is a notable 
development and will revolutionise the access thousands of overseas fans enjoy 
when following their EFL team. 
  
“The new iFollow platform represents a potentially significant new revenue 
stream for Clubs, while enabling enhanced engagement with existing fans now 
living abroad. 
  
“iFollow will also present the EFL with an important opportunity to stimulate 
the interest of new groups of supporters who follow our clubs overseas, which 
in turn will help support the growth of our competitions on the international 
stage.” 
  
The live streaming of matches will be available from the start of the 2017/18 
season in conjunction with a brand new digital presence for clubs via official 
websites and apps, together creating the largest sporting digital network in 
the world. US-based company NeuLion, a market leader in online video delivery, 
whose clients include the NFL, NBA and the Premier League, have developed the 
integrated streaming service alongside UK company Realise who have built the 
club websites. The two suppliers were appointed by the EFL in July 2016 
following a competitive procurement process. 






> On May 3, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> From the twitter link (my edits):
> 
> Basically 148 games are presently sold overseas to various tv organizations 
> (BeIn here in the states) for EFL games but I assume that is mostly 
> Championship games.
> 
> Next season that number will remain the same but the rest will be available 
>

Re: [LU] IFollow

[Nigel Sykes]

*sigh* Ireland not included.  Like we can pop along to games easier than people 
in other European countries...

Nigel
(the disappointed Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 03 May 2017 19:36
To: Nicholas Armit; arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org; {broken-address}; 
leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] IFollow

More info:
The innovative new service will enable overseas EFL fans to follow their team’s 
entire 2017/18 season The EFL has today unveiled iFollow, an innovative digital 
live streaming and content platform that will revolutionise the way football 
fans overseas can follow their EFL teams. 
  
iFollow will, for the first time in English football, enable EFL fans based 
outside the UK and Ireland to watch their team during the regular EFL season. 
With an estimated 270,000 EFL fans based outside the UK, iFollow will allow 
clubs to enable their supporters to follow the action wherever they are in the 
world. 
  
Kicking off at the start of the 2017/18 EFL season, overseas subscribers will 
pay the equivalent of £110 per season for the service which will provide 
coverage of up to 46 live games per club. More than 1,500 matches will be 
available in HD quality, with iFollow showing every EFL league match live 
unless that match has been selected by the EFL’s overseas broadcast partners. 
  
Fans based in the UK and Ireland will still also have access to live audio 
commentary, highlights packages and exclusive content as part of the new 
offering, rebranded to replace the EFL’s existing PlayerHD platform. 
  
At launch, the vast majority of EFL clubs have opted in to utilise the iFollow 
platform and those who have not will have access to the same live streaming 
opportunity and will provide their fans with access through their own club 
digital services. 
  
Research commissioned by the EFL suggests that there is significant demand for 
a service like iFollow amongst fans based overseas. A survey of over 1,600 such 
fans showed that 73% would be very likely or quite likely to subscribe to a 
live match streaming service and almost half would be happy to pay an annual 
subscription fee to do so. The findings suggest over 55% of the EFL’s fans are 
located in the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand where the 
potential audience for the iFollow platform could reach into the hundreds of 
thousands. 
  
EFL Chief Executive Shaun Harvey commented: “The launch of iFollow is a notable 
development and will revolutionise the access thousands of overseas fans enjoy 
when following their EFL team. 
  
“The new iFollow platform represents a potentially significant new revenue 
stream for Clubs, while enabling enhanced engagement with existing fans now 
living abroad. 
  
“iFollow will also present the EFL with an important opportunity to stimulate 
the interest of new groups of supporters who follow our clubs overseas, which 
in turn will help support the growth of our competitions on the international 
stage.” 
  
The live streaming of matches will be available from the start of the 2017/18 
season in conjunction with a brand new digital presence for clubs via official 
websites and apps, together creating the largest sporting digital network in 
the world. US-based company NeuLion, a market leader in online video delivery, 
whose clients include the NFL, NBA and the Premier League, have developed the 
integrated streaming service alongside UK company Realise who have built the 
club websites. The two suppliers were appointed by the EFL in July 2016 
following a competitive procurement process. 






> On May 3, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
> 
> From the twitter link (my edits):
> 
> Basically 148 games are presently sold overseas to various tv organizations 
> (BeIn here in the states) for EFL games but I assume that is mostly 
> Championship games.
> 
> Next season that number will remain the same but the rest will be available 
> via a new video streaming service called iFollow that will be accessible via 
> the club's tv stations.
> 
> Beyond that not much else there
> 
> Was delivered via Twitter by the enigmatic Shaun Harvey
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> From: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
> 
> To: {broken-address} ; 
> "arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org" 
> ; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 12:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [LU] IFollow
> 
> It was a twitter link from someone but I found this which is part of a thread 
> on loads of other team's supporters email forums. I read on the original 
> twitter link that it will encompass 1500 games which is essentially every 
> game for the three leagues for next season. I just don't know if LUTV use 
> PlayerHD (and as a subscriber I have heard 

Re: [LU] Fwd: Career of Richard Naef (Naeffy as in Sniffer)

[Nigel Sykes]

Good to 'ave you back, Thirkers!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Graham 
Thirkill
Sent: 22 April 2017 09:55
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Fwd: Career of Richard Naef (Naeffy as in Sniffer)


Peter Castlehouse, now then Buggerlugs. It is honestly great to see your name 
and comments in my inbox. I an glad toy are still around. I have been off the 
list for a few years now and I should imagine a few have died. The oldest 
member, a guy from Canada died, Grandpa Sykes he called himself, a really nice 
guy. I know that there must be others. I remember the very sad story of the 
young Australian lad who died so bravely keeping us informed with his 
illness……..anyhow Pete, I will write a few silly tales as I did before, until 
they get sick of me again and chuck me off. There were a few good comics on 
here as I remember, Stotty, Betty the guy from that amateur Lancashire, 
football club and a few others. I had the great pleasure of meeting an old 
Leeds lad who I am in regular contact with, at Elland Road last season, the 
very famous "Mad Mike" aka Michael Benjamin and his lovely brother Gerald. Mike 
was over here on holiday from Israel. We had a lovely afternoon together at the 
Fulham game, I can’t remember the outcome of the match but I remember we didn’t 
win or draw.
Cheers Peter, thanks….
Thirkers

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: "Peter Castlehouse" 
> Subject: RE: [LU] Career of Richard Naef (Naeffy as in Sniffer)
> Date: 22 April 2017 at 09:25:07 BST
> To: "'Graham Thirkill'" , 
> 
> 
> Don't know about anyone else, but I look on the return of Thirkers as the 
> Phoenix of our season.   
> Thirkers, at least half the next packet of Hoola Hoops should be consumed 
> with me in mind!   
> Welcome back mate
> 
> OzPete
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Graham 
> Thirkill
> Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 6:19 PM
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Career of Richard Naef (Naeffy as in Sniffer)
> 
> Richard Naef said  "Hi Graham,
> Leeds United the Complete Record, also left out my illustrious career playing 
> for Leeds United - what aboutthe winning hat-trick I scored in '73…….”
> Richard, That’s because there was a special edition of the book, dedicated 
> entirely to your amazing career.It contained cassette audio tapes and a very 
> early VCR tape…..and player……it was a bargain at 783 quid.I still have mine 
> and it’s never needed repair. I hope this info helps. … There’s another 
> serious shortage of Kippers again in Whitby….Lets hope we don’t have the 
> riots and repeat of the 2001 disaster, where twenty seven people were 
> trampled to death when the first batch were produced, after the long, one 
> hour wait andthe angry queueing customers surged forward out of control.
> Thirkers
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Re: [LU] A team to be proud of / Pontus

[Nigel Sykes]

Knowing our luck, Pontus will try to get booked on Monday, but will get sent 
off instead.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 15 April 2017 10:42
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] A team to be proud of / Pontus

As pointed out below by Dave W we now have an issue with Pontus - without him 
in the team our defence goes from rock solid - him and Bartley are a great 
partnership- to one with at least one mistake in it. Cooper is so mistake prone 
and causes the other defenders problems and affects their and the fans 
confidence.
I  really cannot see us winning the play offs without Pontus in the team. That 
means he must play Monday and must get booked (and so miss the other 3 games) - 
then we can play Ayling at centre back with Taylor and Berardi at full back - 
that should be solid enough to prevent losing at Burton and Wigan and beat 
Norwich , and that should get us in the play offs and a fit and rested Pontus 
can come back in.
Knowing our luck the FL will decide that Pontus booking on Monday is 'illegal' 
and give him a 6 match man. Does anyone know what happened to the 2 spanish 
club (?) players who deliberately got booked so they could play in the Champs 
League final ?
I do think in some ways the rules should be changed so the ban does not count 
for the play offs but goes into the next season ? Although the play offs should 
be an embarrassment played behind closed doors in the dark , two teams not good 
enough for the top two, the FL have made it into a real cup final type game, at 
Wembley with fireworks and a band etc (I was well annoyed pre Doncaster with 
the razzmatazz around the game and then to get a trophy - what is that all 
about ?) So this makes it a really big memorable game in the minds of the 
players and one, like a cup final, they want to play in Dave

  . 

Only downside is the Pontus booking. Now one booking from a 3 game ban. How to 
handle that one becomes ever trickier.


   
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Re: [LU] Reading

[Nigel Sykes]

Logic dictates that a draw is the best result, since a point gets flushed
away from the total pot.

Pretty good set of results all around for us, so far today...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John
Boocock
Sent: 25 February 2017 17:00
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Reading

So what would you prefer to happen to Reading? Nul un ou trois points? 

Betty

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Re: [LU] Saturday

[Nigel Sykes]

Hear, hear!  Bit early on a Saturday, but I daresay a few beers will be
involved before the end, here in ex-pat Ireland...

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Brendan
Osborne
Sent: 24 February 2017 10:17
To: Rob Heath; Peter Castlehouse
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Saturday

Family get-together tonight so there'll be a few scoops involved!!


I'll be watching from my couch at home (Laytown Ireland), probably nursing a
hangover, definitely eating a bacon sandwich or two!


Ossie



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Rob Heath

Sent: 24 February 2017 10:06
To: Peter Castlehouse
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Saturday

Indeed..I'll be watching it on a livestream here in Hong Kong!

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Peter Castlehouse 
wrote:

> Hey!  I can be in the pub at my 10am and not leave dusty NSW, and have 13
> hours on the piss before kick-off!   So by all means get the trolley out,
> stock it well, and toast at least one shout to ALL the ex-pats 
> everywhere on the list and everywhere around the world!
> Cheers buddy!
> 2-2
> OzPete
>
> From: John Boocock [mailto:j...@boocock.net]
> Sent: Friday, 24 February 2017 8:31 PM
> To: Richard Walker ; Leeds List < 
> leedslist@gn.apc.org>; Peter Castlehouse 
> Subject: RE: [LU] Saturday
>
> Get yersen home Pete then yer can be in the pub at 10am :-) Shall we 
> get the drinks trolley out?
> Betty
> Sent from the North
> On 24 Feb 2017 09:26, Peter Castlehouse  > wrote:
> Don't forget the armchair listers from darn under, who by Satdi 11pm 
> kick off our time (on the cable telly) are pissed as farts and 
> thenceforward vociferously abusing the telly, the cat, the missus and 
> the drunks walking down the street
>
> OzPete
>
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Re: [LU] Leeds and plastic pitches

[Nigel Sykes]

There's a couple of things that bother me about us deliberately fielding a
weak team in cup games.  Firstly, it is horribly disrespectful to the fans,
especially the ones who travelled, obviously, but even to the many thousands
watching on TV at home.  And secondly, the argument that it doesn't matter
and we should concentrate on the league just doesn't hold water, in my
opinion.  Winning breeds confidence and the mood of a team is a fragile
thing.  Keeping the mood and the confidence high should be paramount, and
taking the opportunity to put a lesser team to the sword should be eagerly
grasped.  Sure, we'd almost certainly have gone out to Arsenal in the next
round (unless they fielded a weak team themselves!), but unless they
slaughtered us, which I doubt, then we would likely come away from that
plucky defeat with our heads still held high.

As an aside, I'd be surprised if our Italian overlords were overjoyed with
the result, if not the policy that lead to it.  Another lucrative, surely
televised full house at Elland Road, and the slim chance of knocking off one
the Premier League's top teams would have been desirable to them for all
sorts of reasons.

Nigel 
(the Dublin one)

-

Dave wrote:
The plastic pitch on Sunday though was irrelevant in my opinion. If Monk had
fielded our strongest team, I believe we would have won. As it was, the
under 12s who hadn't  played together (as it felt) hadn't much of a clue
whether it had been played on turf, plastic or even ice! Perhaps it was a
managerial professional foul by Monk, politely saying in disguise "We want
out of this competition now" similar to Brighton and a couple of others.
And just maybe, all the post match comments about it being his
responsibility etc were all pre rehearsed well in advance as he had a pretty
good idea of what was in store.  Possibly Dallas and Doukara were included
as a mark of respect and to avoid any penalties for fielding a hopelessly
inadequate team as has beset some clubs.

When we won 6-0 at Sutton in 1970, it appeared that Revie played pretty much
a full strength team - good on him!  Looks like Coventry did likewise in
1989.  That of course does not make up for what happened yesterday, but it
is a sign of the times I suppose. The FA Cup is being debased in favour of
league progress, club status and of course, hard cash.   A bit sad, but if
we make the top flight, all will be forgiven and forgotten apart from the
record books which I'm more than prepared to accept. 

Apologies, I've wandered off theme

Dave

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Re: [LU] streams for overseas armchairs

[Nigel Sykes]

Do yourself a favour and download (for free) the program Kodi.  Then look
online for instructions on how to download and install Sport Video Addons.
There's loads, and they all give access to everything you could ever want to
see.  You may have to click a few streams before you find one, but you'll
always find one.  No click-bait.  No adverts.  I'm beginning to question why
I have any sports subscriptions anymore...

Nigel
(the Dublin one) 

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Mark
Pilling
Sent: 21 January 2017 15:25
To: leedslist
Subject: [LU] streams for overseas armchairs

these days so many stream opportunities and new fangled things mentioned,
but each week seems i plough through endless clickbaits to finally get
attached.
So, any overseas listers care to advise re a decent and reasonably reliable
streaming site?

I was suckered into a bet365 deposit though haven't seen a sniff, I have
roku and could get a pass to NOW if that's the best option.

I don't understand things like modbro that i keep seeing mentioned, but
willing to learn if that's where i should be

Help gratefully received.
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Re: [LU] question re Batty

[Nigel Sykes]

Here you go...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV-2DfkA0Xw#t=02m19s

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard
Naef
Sent: 15 January 2017 19:04
To: nat...@sky.com; Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] question re Batty


>For some reason my wife had a picture of David Batty appear on her phone
and she said to me "I have seen >him score, have'nt I, and he did not do
that often"


Ahem, I can think of one reason why she's got a picture of him on your
'phone and thinking about him scoring.  Still if your missus IS going to be
unfaithful |I s'pose it being a Leeds legend makes it easier to deal with
;)
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Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16

[Nigel Sykes]

Yep - anyone who is bitching at the moment really needs to admit to
themselves that they're only in it for the bitchin'!

This must be the most optimistic time we've had in many, many a year, no?
Last night's game was the most encouraging one I've watched in many a year.
The team are playing better than my old, addled brain can remember (at least
10 years).  We have a manager who seems to know what he's doing.  We have a
(more than) functional defence, for f's sake!

I can live with the lack of idea about what the ownership are about.  When
did we ever care about that, when the manager and team knew what they were
doing?

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Gardiner
Sent: 14 January 2017 22:51
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16

Somewhat the same:  for me the most telling thing is the mood on this list.
Normally it's a place full of guys who would bitch and moan about a blowjob.
Now some, dare I say it, optimism!  Haven't heard such positivity around
these parts since before Woodgate and Bowyer went Paki kicking.

Michael Gardiner
San Diego Whites

On Jan 14, 2017, at 1:42 PM,
>
> wrote:

Message: 6
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:43:09 +
From: Simon McNally >
To: John Boocock >
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] View from the Parker Knoll
Message-ID:
<018ee104-be50-41ef-8c7d-1c57c2efa...@sky.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

For me the most telling thing is the change is mood amongst the fans - I'm
walking into the ground expecting to see us win rather than hoping we won't
be too bad, and it's not just me. People are walking in with a smile on
their faces and walking out genuinely excited by what they've seen. Even an
impromptu chant of we are Leeds on the way out of the family stand
yesterday!
There's a buzz about the place I've not felt for a long long time and Monk
deserves a ton of credit. I was/am definitely in the Cellino out camp but he
deserves credit too for getting Monk and not appearing to be interfering
anymore and for the quality signings we've made.
For me, I think we need cover at centre back and up front but the most
important signings this window are Monk , Bartley and Jannsson.

Leeds are going up!

Simon

Sent from my iPhone

On 14 Jan 2017, at 13:23, John Boocock
> wrote:

Seeing the post match comments here and speaking to people who were at the
match allied to my view via Sky (thank you most excellent NowTV) I can only
feel very very happy about that performance. I take on board Dave's comments
and Rich's scores on the doors. Totally agree.

If anything there is something special about Gary Monk. He fashions the team
to meet the circumstances (how much homework is being done here?). Shackling
Ince right from the off and taking on a fairly pedestrian defence at every
opportunity were to me the key to success.

If I have a criticism and it's a small one, I was disappointed at some of
the finishing. I still feel we should have had three in the first half and
another in the second. And that is over and above the referee's decisions on
two potential penalties. However three points are ours at just the right
point in the season.

The issuing of yellows to Leeds players is also a worry (especially in
Hernandes' case) but quite often they come because this team is so commited
which is a real bonus after some of the "leaner" games we have played. Note
to Monk: discipline.

To say I'm optimistic about the rest of the season is an understatement and
I can't wait for that final whistle at Wigan on the last day of the season.

MOT

Betty


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Re: [LU] Goal Camb Utd 1 Leeds 0

[Nigel Sykes]

: On Behalf Of Jim Moran
: Still won. A fixture we'd have lost every other year the past 15.

Fair comment!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

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[LU] Massimo Cellino sells 50% stake to Italian businessman

[Nigel Sykes]

According to the BBC: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38511004

 

Nigel

(the Dublin one)

 

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Re: [LU] Pub in Dublin

[Nigel Sykes]

Sinnotts is nice (it always reminds me of the pub in the old TV show "Cheers"), 
but often hard to get seated. 

I'd go for the Mercantile on Dame Street - nice and central and good food. 

Nigel
(The Dublin one)

> On 3 Dec 2016, at 09:52, Shane Larkin  wrote:
> 
> Sinnotts - top of Grafton street - big screens - nice bar food
> 
>> On 3 Dec 2016 9:46 a.m., "Einar Solheim"  wrote:
>> 
>> Any tips for the best pub to watch today's match in Dublin city center?
>> Preferably with food so the wife has something to do :)
>> 
>> Sent in great haste from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Anyone know anyone in Korea?

[Nigel Sykes]

Seems to be true.  If you put the Korean phrase "리즈시절" into Google
Translate, it comes out as "Leeds time".

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard
Naef
Sent: 30 November 2016 12:59
To: leeds list
Subject: [LU] Anyone know anyone in Korea?

who could verify this?  I suspect it's just click bait.

 

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/11/30/bizarre-reason-why-leeds-united-are-one
-of-koreas-best-known-clu/page/1/

 

 

ttfn

 

Richard

 

 

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Re: [LU] Newcastle and Curry Houses

[Nigel Sykes]

2 - 2

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Re: [LU] Newscastle / occasional visitors

[Nigel Sykes]

I'm not really in your declared category of interest, but as a 
living-abroad-supporter, when I look to pick a weekend to visit 'home', I 
usually look at the fixture list and I would generally be swayed by a 'bigger' 
opposition more than anything else.  More atmosphere at the game is a good 
carrot, and the win/lose joy/pain is slanted more in our favour (beat a big 
team and it's a bigger high, lose to a big team and you can convince yourself 
it was to be expected anyway!).  I might be dissuaded if the game was 
televised, admittedly, but that would be a secondary consideration.  Back in 
the day I was a rain-or-shine regular, and it wouldn't have mattered whom we 
were playing (Plymouth on a Tuesday - I mean, come on!).  But these days I 
would have really very little interest in seeing us play e.g. Burton Albion.  

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 02 November 2016 13:18
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Newscastle / occasional visitors

The OS has announced that even with the ESU open the game v Newcastle is a 
complete sell out (with a couple of weeks to go)I have a genuine question to 
occasional visitors to ER (the name 'part-timers' is a bit derogatory and this 
is not a 'better fan than you' type email)How do you decide which games to go 
to ?I have pretty much gone every week / had a ST for as long as I have been a 
fan so it has never been a thing for me - unless I am holiday etc I go to the 
game, simple as that.
I realise that every fan picks their 'level' of fandom - but I just wondered 
how you pick and choose ?I go and watch Leeds United and therefore have little 
or no interest in who we are playing - I can only ever recall wanting to watch 
two opposition players - Gazza post Italia 90 and Paulo Wanchop (who in the 
event was injured on the day) I think if I was having to choose, for whatever 
reason, then I would not go when it is on TV, I would prefer teams like Burton 
who I have not seen before,and  if money is the issue - cheaper games.Yet our 
history seems to show that fans turn up to watch games against what are viewed 
as 'bigger teams' eg Scum, Scouse Arsenal in Prem and Huddersfield and now 
Newcastle (and no doubt Villa) in this Division.I get that a winning team also 
brings fans back.I understand that you may take your kids to the nearest game 
to their birthday or as a Christmas treat etc, or non UK fans going to games 
when they are in England But my genuine question is to those who
  could go every week but who opt to pick and choose their games, how do you 
choose ?Dave ___
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