[LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread John Lee
 
 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread Chris Briggs
On the plus side, it is said that he stopped Ross going to Cardiff. I am sure 
Haigh would have accepted the offer.

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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread Richard Walker
Bates certainly would have !

 On 3 Feb 2014, at 12:49, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 On the plus side, it is said that he stopped Ross going to Cardiff. I am sure 
 Haigh would have accepted the offer.
 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread Ian Murray
So we have officially signed this Andrea guy (!) then?

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 On 3 Feb 2014, at 21:06, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Bates certainly would have !
 
 On 3 Feb 2014, at 12:49, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 On the plus side, it is said that he stopped Ross going to Cardiff. I am 
 sure Haigh would have accepted the offer.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread n...@6haroldplace.co.uk

Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough



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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread Nigel Barber
Is this a beauty contest?

The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.

So many closed minds.



On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
n...@6haroldplace.co.ukwrote:


 Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough



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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
barely understand.
Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
and white.
I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
manipulated.

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On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk wrote:

 Is this a beauty contest?

 The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
 was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.

 So many closed minds.



 On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
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  Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread Paul Cundell
On 3 Feb 2014 14:58, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote:


 I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
 manipulated.


Of course these are the same guts that insisted BMc should have been sacked
on Saturday morning though Mike
Cheers
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread matt
My guess is that its to do with due diligence. GFH have made a loss the haigh 
group couldn't get the backing as sums didn't add up. 

If you were buying a house and you found a problem that meant your mortgage 
company wouldn't lend you the full amount you couldn't proceed unless they 
dropped the price or you risked your own funds.

I don't necessarily blame Haigh as such in all this.

Others will know more but that's my take from press/twitter etc... 


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Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
barely understand.
Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
and white.
I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
manipulated.

Dr Michael Benjamin,
Community Psychiatrist
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On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk wrote:

 Is this a beauty contest?

 The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
 was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.

 So many closed minds.



 On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
 n...@6haroldplace.co.ukwrote:

 
  Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough
 
 
 
   On 03 February 2014 at 12:46 John Lee bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread David W
I don't necessarily attach much blame to anyone for the Sport Capital deal
failing - these things happen, and the new information that caused Sport
Capital to reduce their bid (whether the realisation of the ongoing monthly
losses (it would surprise me if they hadn't already known this) or some
other nasty little contingent liability, is one of those things. They were
within their rights to try and adjust their bid to reflect the change, GFH
were within their rights to say the deal doesn't work at the revised
figure. Unfortunate but life.

However, the goings on during Friday and the perfect storm of lunacy that
came together with GFH apparently (for reasons that may come to light after
this storm has settled) desperate to conclude a deal as a matter of urgency
and Cellino desperate to get in control, and coming to a head on transfer
deadline day, makes Cellino and GFH look inept and opportunistic.

GFH basically abandoned ship and left a quite extraordinary management
vacuum on one of the club's most important days in years. All of that mob
have to take accountability for that.

Cellino was guilty of crass corporate management (trying to shoe horn his
man in and getting McD out before he'd even bought the club) that does
little to reassure anyone that he has learnt the errors of his ways given
his past convictions.

I don't buy the argument that Cellino can be a good thing, just because he
will be a new broom, take no shit bloke with lots of cash. If Bates had got
200m behind him, would that have made everything about his reign ok? No,
because he would sitll have been a graceless, thuggish oaf that dragged our
club's name through the mud, acted solely for himself and sowed division at
every turn as a way of maintaining control. We don't need that again.

We're all wearied by the last decade or so at Leeds. I suppose it comes
down to whether your attitude is now:

Camp 1 - I'm just sick of us being rubbish and second tier. I want quality,
I want drive and I want promotion. Just give me that and I'm happy. It's
not nice guys that matter, it's success.

Camp 2 - I'm just sick of the off-field division, shennanigans, succession
of people taking from our club, but giving little. I just crave stability,
normality and unity. To ensure our football club is Leeds UNITED, at
whatever level that is, without feeling our soul is being eroded with each
passing year.

I'm a Camp 2 fan. But I'm not saying Camp 1 is wrong, and I fully
understand it.

Cheers,

David


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:07 PM, m...@leeds-united.net wrote:

 My guess is that its to do with due diligence. GFH have made a loss the
 haigh group couldn't get the backing as sums didn't add up.

 If you were buying a house and you found a problem that meant your
 mortgage company wouldn't lend you the full amount you couldn't proceed
 unless they dropped the price or you risked your own funds.

 I don't necessarily blame Haigh as such in all this.

 Others will know more but that's my take from press/twitter etc...


 Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

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 Cc: LEEDSLISTleedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

 I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
 barely understand.
 Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
 is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
 Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
 We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
 basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
 piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
 Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
 and white.
 I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
 manipulated.

 Dr Michael Benjamin,
 Community Psychiatrist
 ---
 myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT
 http://www.myRay.com
 http://www.myRay.org
 --
 Mental Health:
 http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com
 
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 On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk wrote:

  Is this a beauty contest?
 
  The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
  was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.
 
  So many closed minds.
 
 
 
  On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
  n...@6haroldplace.co.ukwrote:
 
  
   Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge
 Gainsbrough
  
  
  
On 03 February 2014 at 12:46 John Lee bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
  wrote:
   
   
   
   
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football

Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread Ian Murray
That's actually quite well put.

I would classify myself as camp 2. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 3 Feb 2014, at 23:29, David W davidwool...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't necessarily attach much blame to anyone for the Sport Capital deal
 failing - these things happen, and the new information that caused Sport
 Capital to reduce their bid (whether the realisation of the ongoing monthly
 losses (it would surprise me if they hadn't already known this) or some
 other nasty little contingent liability, is one of those things. They were
 within their rights to try and adjust their bid to reflect the change, GFH
 were within their rights to say the deal doesn't work at the revised
 figure. Unfortunate but life.
 
 However, the goings on during Friday and the perfect storm of lunacy that
 came together with GFH apparently (for reasons that may come to light after
 this storm has settled) desperate to conclude a deal as a matter of urgency
 and Cellino desperate to get in control, and coming to a head on transfer
 deadline day, makes Cellino and GFH look inept and opportunistic.
 
 GFH basically abandoned ship and left a quite extraordinary management
 vacuum on one of the club's most important days in years. All of that mob
 have to take accountability for that.
 
 Cellino was guilty of crass corporate management (trying to shoe horn his
 man in and getting McD out before he'd even bought the club) that does
 little to reassure anyone that he has learnt the errors of his ways given
 his past convictions.
 
 I don't buy the argument that Cellino can be a good thing, just because he
 will be a new broom, take no shit bloke with lots of cash. If Bates had got
 200m behind him, would that have made everything about his reign ok? No,
 because he would sitll have been a graceless, thuggish oaf that dragged our
 club's name through the mud, acted solely for himself and sowed division at
 every turn as a way of maintaining control. We don't need that again.
 
 We're all wearied by the last decade or so at Leeds. I suppose it comes
 down to whether your attitude is now:
 
 Camp 1 - I'm just sick of us being rubbish and second tier. I want quality,
 I want drive and I want promotion. Just give me that and I'm happy. It's
 not nice guys that matter, it's success.
 
 Camp 2 - I'm just sick of the off-field division, shennanigans, succession
 of people taking from our club, but giving little. I just crave stability,
 normality and unity. To ensure our football club is Leeds UNITED, at
 whatever level that is, without feeling our soul is being eroded with each
 passing year.
 
 I'm a Camp 2 fan. But I'm not saying Camp 1 is wrong, and I fully
 understand it.
 
 Cheers,
 
 David
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:07 PM, m...@leeds-united.net wrote:
 
 My guess is that its to do with due diligence. GFH have made a loss the
 haigh group couldn't get the backing as sums didn't add up.
 
 If you were buying a house and you found a problem that meant your
 mortgage company wouldn't lend you the full amount you couldn't proceed
 unless they dropped the price or you risked your own funds.
 
 I don't necessarily blame Haigh as such in all this.
 
 Others will know more but that's my take from press/twitter etc...
 
 
 Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com
 Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:58:06
 To: Nigel Barberni...@mindbrix.co.uk
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 Cc: LEEDSLISTleedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
 
 I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
 barely understand.
 Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
 is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
 Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
 We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
 basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
 piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
 Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
 and white.
 I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
 manipulated.
 
 Dr Michael Benjamin,
 Community Psychiatrist
 ---
 myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT
 http://www.myRay.com
 http://www.myRay.org
 --
 Mental Health:
 http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com
 
 Auditing || Quality Control
 http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/
 
 Blog:
 http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com
 
 
 On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk wrote:
 
 Is this a beauty contest?
 
 The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
 was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.
 
 So many closed minds.
 
 
 
 On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
 n...@6haroldplace.co.ukwrote:
 
 
 Yes

Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread n...@6haroldplace.co.uk

There was no value judgement in what I said - just that he resembled somebody
else - not whether that was a good, bad or indifferent thing.


as to the rest of it, well time will tell of course, but he has a criminal
record, that at least seems relevant to his proposed take over at Leeds (by that
I mean it is not parking tickets), ie. embezzlement.

Fans standing outside holding a vigil - so what - some Leeds fans would have
doen the same for Woodgate, Bowyer et al doesn't mean the person is innocent or
even a laudible individual who is misunderstood - in this context I would argue
it means that some idiots put their club above everything else, right or wrong.

You know there was ructions when Pistol Pete wanted to move us to Stourton - god
knows how a move to Aberdeen or Plymouth would go down...and as for the
managerial merry go round - yes, let's keep that up because 10 or so manager in
the last 10 years has worked a treat for us so far hasn't it?


 On 03 February 2014 at 14:19 Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk wrote:
 
  Is this a beauty contest?
 
  The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he was
 in stir. That speaks volumes to me.
 
  So many closed minds.
 
 
 
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 Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge
  Gainsbrough
  
  
  
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread Brendan Osborne
Oe Missus!! Strictly hetro me!! :-)

Ossie

 From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 23:32:16 +0800
 To: davidwool...@gmail.com
 CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
 
 That's actually quite well put.
 
 I would classify myself as camp 2. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone

  
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread Ian Murray
Oo mince

Sent from my iPhone

 On 3 Feb 2014, at 23:36, Brendan Osborne bosborn...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Oe Missus!! Strictly hetro me!! :-)
 
 
 Ossie
 
  From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
  Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 23:32:16 +0800
  To: davidwool...@gmail.com
  CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
  Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
  
  That's actually quite well put.
  
  I would classify myself as camp 2. 
  
  Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread Ciaran Diver
From: Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com
I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
manipulated.

I'd say it's just wind Michael - been on the garlic for lunch?

Latest news is that the Farnan/Flowers consortium are meeting GFH tomorrow
and that the Cellion lawyer has been escorted out of Elland Rd! Proper
order.

Dave W, count me very much in Camp 2

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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread Ian Murray
The guy who's such a good lawyer he didn't realise that one needs to actually 
own the company before one can start sacking people. Manc prick. (sorry Dave 
N!). 

I really hope he has been escorted out. Where's this from?

Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Feb 2014, at 23:49, Ciaran Diver ciarandi...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com
 I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
 manipulated.
 
 I'd say it's just wind Michael - been on the garlic for lunch?
 
 Latest news is that the Farnan/Flowers consortium are meeting GFH tomorrow
 and that the Cellion lawyer has been escorted out of Elland Rd! Proper
 order.
 
 Dave W, count me very much in Camp 2
 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread Ciaran Diver
Adam Pope and Phil Hay both reporting it on twitter Ian, see below.

Adam Pope @APOPEY44m
#lufc Farnell shown off the premises by  Haigh, Patel  security staff 
understood not to return unless a deal is completed with Cellino.
Adam Pope @APOPEY46m
#lufc It is my understanding that Chris Farnell, the lawyer acting for
Massimo Cellino,has been asked to leave the Elland Road offices today
Phil Hay @PhilHayYEP52m
Apparently, he was shown out of Elland Road by Haigh, Patel and security
staff. Cellino bid seems to be sinking.
Phil Hay @PhilHayYEP53m
Farnell is understood to have been at Elland Road pending the completion of
Cellino's deal. Deal hasn't been done. #lufc


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.comwrote:

 The guy who's such a good lawyer he didn't realise that one needs to
 actually own the company before one can start sacking people. Manc prick.
 (sorry Dave N!).

 I really hope he has been escorted out. Where's this from?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 3 Feb 2014, at 23:49, Ciaran Diver ciarandi...@gmail.com wrote:

  From: Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com
  I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
  manipulated.
 
  I'd say it's just wind Michael - been on the garlic for lunch?
 
  Latest news is that the Farnan/Flowers consortium are meeting GFH
 tomorrow
  and that the Cellion lawyer has been escorted out of Elland Rd! Proper
  order.
 
  Dave W, count me very much in Camp 2
 
  Ciaran
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread David W
Interestingly enough, the same chap who helped QPR avoid a point deduction
the other year (when a hefty deduction could have got us into the
play-offs).


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.comwrote:

 The guy who's such a good lawyer he didn't realise that one needs to
 actually own the company before one can start sacking people. Manc prick.
 (sorry Dave N!).

 I really hope he has been escorted out. Where's this from?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 3 Feb 2014, at 23:49, Ciaran Diver ciarandi...@gmail.com wrote:

  From: Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com
  I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
  manipulated.
 
  I'd say it's just wind Michael - been on the garlic for lunch?
 
  Latest news is that the Farnan/Flowers consortium are meeting GFH
 tomorrow
  and that the Cellion lawyer has been escorted out of Elland Rd! Proper
  order.
 
  Dave W, count me very much in Camp 2
 
  Ciaran
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread Chris Briggs
I've decided that I don't care anymore, my daughter has introduced me to 
something more addictive that football.

Flappy Birds on iPad/iPhone.

I might be gone a while, need to beat 26!!

Sent from my iPhone

 On 3 Feb 2014, at 16:04, David W davidwool...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Interestingly enough, the same chap who helped QPR avoid a point deduction
 the other year (when a hefty deduction could have got us into the
 play-offs).
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.comwrote:
 
 The guy who's such a good lawyer he didn't realise that one needs to
 actually own the company before one can start sacking people. Manc prick.
 (sorry Dave N!).
 
 I really hope he has been escorted out. Where's this from?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 3 Feb 2014, at 23:49, Ciaran Diver ciarandi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From: Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com
 I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
 manipulated.
 
 I'd say it's just wind Michael - been on the garlic for lunch?
 
 Latest news is that the Farnan/Flowers consortium are meeting GFH
 tomorrow
 and that the Cellion lawyer has been escorted out of Elland Rd! Proper
 order.
 
 Dave W, count me very much in Camp 2
 
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread tim . whelan
The one thing that doesn't quite make sense is that Haigh is a senior employee 
of GFH and was involved in their buyout from Bates.
So whatever it was that Sport Capital discovered during due diligence should 
have been something he already knew about, and shouldn't have come as a 
surprise to a consortium he was involved with.

Tim W.





 From: m...@leeds-united.net m...@leeds-united.net
To: m...@myray.com; Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk 
Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014, 15:07
Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
 

My guess is that its to do with due diligence. GFH have made a loss the haigh 
group couldn't get the backing as sums didn't add up. 

If you were buying a house and you found a problem that meant your mortgage 
company wouldn't lend you the full amount you couldn't proceed unless they 
dropped the price or you risked your own funds.

I don't necessarily blame Haigh as such in all this.

Others will know more but that's my take from press/twitter etc... 


Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:58:06 
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Cc: LEEDSLISTleedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
barely understand.
Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
and white.
I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
manipulated.

Dr Michael Benjamin,
Community Psychiatrist
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On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk wrote:

 Is this a beauty contest?

 The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
 was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.

 So many closed minds.



 On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
 n...@6haroldplace.co.ukwrote:

 
  Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough
 
 
 
   On 03 February 2014 at 12:46 John Lee bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
 wrote:
  
  
  
  
   http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26006243
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread seanscribe
Tim,

I have to say that this has been puzzling me as well. 

Cheers!

Sean

 

 

 

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To: matt m...@leeds-united.net; MIB m...@myray.com; Nigel Barber 
ni...@mindbrix.co.uk
Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 1:04 pm
Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!


The one thing that doesn't quite make sense is that Haigh is a senior employee 
of GFH and was involved in their buyout from Bates.
So whatever it was that Sport Capital discovered during due diligence should 
have been something he already knew about, and shouldn't have come as a 
surprise 
to a consortium he was involved with.

Tim W.





 From: m...@leeds-united.net m...@leeds-united.net
To: m...@myray.com; Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk 
Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014, 15:07
Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
 

My guess is that its to do with due diligence. GFH have made a loss the haigh 
group couldn't get the backing as sums didn't add up. 

If you were buying a house and you found a problem that meant your mortgage 
company wouldn't lend you the full amount you couldn't proceed unless they 
dropped the price or you risked your own funds.

I don't necessarily blame Haigh as such in all this.

Others will know more but that's my take from press/twitter etc... 


Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

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Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:58:06 
To: Nigel Barberni...@mindbrix.co.uk
Reply-To: m...@myray.com
Cc: LEEDSLISTleedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
barely understand.
Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
and white.
I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
manipulated.

Dr Michael Benjamin,
Community Psychiatrist
---
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http://www.myRay.com
http://www.myRay.org
--
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On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk wrote:

 Is this a beauty contest?

 The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
 was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.

 So many closed minds.



 On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
 n...@6haroldplace.co.ukwrote:

 
  Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough
 
 
 
   On 03 February 2014 at 12:46 John Lee bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
 wrote:
  
  
  
  
   http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26006243
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread Chris Briggs
I'm starting to believe that we would be better off without him, he has come 
across as naive and a bit clueless since last week.

Not sure I could trust him to find his own arsehole with map and both hands.

Sent from my iPhone

 On 3 Feb 2014, at 19:21, seanscr...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Tim,
 
 I have to say that this has been puzzling me as well. 
 
 Cheers!
 
 Sean
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: tim.whelan tim.whe...@talk21.com
 To: matt m...@leeds-united.net; MIB m...@myray.com; Nigel Barber 
 ni...@mindbrix.co.uk
 Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 1:04 pm
 Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
 
 
 The one thing that doesn't quite make sense is that Haigh is a senior 
 employee 
 of GFH and was involved in their buyout from Bates.
 So whatever it was that Sport Capital discovered during due diligence should 
 have been something he already knew about, and shouldn't have come as a 
 surprise 
 to a consortium he was involved with.
 
 Tim W.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: m...@leeds-united.net m...@leeds-united.net
 To: m...@myray.com; Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk 
 Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014, 15:07
 Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
 
 
 My guess is that its to do with due diligence. GFH have made a loss the haigh 
 group couldn't get the backing as sums didn't add up. 
 
 If you were buying a house and you found a problem that meant your mortgage 
 company wouldn't lend you the full amount you couldn't proceed unless they 
 dropped the price or you risked your own funds.
 
 I don't necessarily blame Haigh as such in all this.
 
 Others will know more but that's my take from press/twitter etc... 
 
 
 Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com
 Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:58:06 
 To: Nigel Barberni...@mindbrix.co.uk
 Reply-To: m...@myray.com
 Cc: LEEDSLISTleedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
 
 I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
 barely understand.
 Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
 is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
 Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
 We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
 basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
 piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
 Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
 and white.
 I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
 manipulated.
 
 Dr Michael Benjamin,
 Community Psychiatrist
 ---
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 On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk wrote:
 
 Is this a beauty contest?
 
 The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
 was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.
 
 So many closed minds.
 
 
 
 On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
 n...@6haroldplace.co.ukwrote:
 
 
 Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough
 
 
 
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 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26006243
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Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!

2014-02-03 Thread Jim Moran
If Cellino takes over, I'm not coming back until he's gone. I would rather have 
a well run championship side than another f*cking crook.

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 On 3 Feb 2014, at 19:26, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 I'm starting to believe that we would be better off without him, he has come 
 across as naive and a bit clueless since last week.
 
 Not sure I could trust him to find his own arsehole with map and both hands.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 3 Feb 2014, at 19:21, seanscr...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Tim,
 
 I have to say that this has been puzzling me as well. 
 
 Cheers!
 
 Sean
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: tim.whelan tim.whe...@talk21.com
 To: matt m...@leeds-united.net; MIB m...@myray.com; Nigel Barber 
 ni...@mindbrix.co.uk
 Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 1:04 pm
 Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
 
 
 The one thing that doesn't quite make sense is that Haigh is a senior 
 employee 
 of GFH and was involved in their buyout from Bates.
 So whatever it was that Sport Capital discovered during due diligence should 
 have been something he already knew about, and shouldn't have come as a 
 surprise 
 to a consortium he was involved with.
 
 Tim W.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: m...@leeds-united.net m...@leeds-united.net
 To: m...@myray.com; Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk 
 Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014, 15:07
 Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
 
 
 My guess is that its to do with due diligence. GFH have made a loss the 
 haigh 
 group couldn't get the backing as sums didn't add up. 
 
 If you were buying a house and you found a problem that meant your mortgage 
 company wouldn't lend you the full amount you couldn't proceed unless they 
 dropped the price or you risked your own funds.
 
 I don't necessarily blame Haigh as such in all this.
 
 Others will know more but that's my take from press/twitter etc... 
 
 
 Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
 
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 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:58:06 
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 Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
 
 I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
 barely understand.
 Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
 is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
 Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
 We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
 basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
 piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
 Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
 and white.
 I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
 manipulated.
 
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 On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk wrote:
 
 Is this a beauty contest?
 
 The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
 was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.
 
 So many closed minds.
 
 
 
 On 3 February 2014 13:22, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
 n...@6haroldplace.co.ukwrote:
 
 
 Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge Gainsbrough
 
 
 
 On 03 February 2014 at 12:46 John Lee bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26006243
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