Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

 Or we can implode like Keegan's Newcastle
Seriously, I agree with this sentiment, but 2-1 up away from home with 10 men, 
sticking on another defender is really just common sense not any move away from 
Bielsa's principles. After all when QPR brought on Smith Bielsa immediately 
brought on Halme to negate the aerial presence and it worked. Why is this any 
different?
Nick
On Thursday, January 3, 2019, 6:38:48 AM EST, Michael Benjamin 
 wrote:  
 
 I agree completely.

Dr. Michael Benjamin


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Robert Heath 

Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:00:52 AM
To: Roger Goodair
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

Actually, i am thrilled that, 2-1 up away with 10 men and 30 mins to go, we
just kept on bombing forward. It didn't work out this time, but ultimately
I am convinced such a positive approach will reap benefits. Plus I am just
LOVING watching Lufc play such great football.

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 4:28 PM Roger Goodair via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

>    Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.
>    I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.
>    We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a
>    young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us
>    promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and
>    BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was
>    in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied
>    behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and
>    another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note
>    that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short
>    term contract.
>    I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm
>    gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,
>    who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10
>    men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1
>    lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but
>    what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and
>    stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.
>    Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -
>    The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there
>    yesterday.
>    Back to lurkdom in pattaya.
>    Cheers  - Rogerre
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Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

[John Lee via Leedslist]

I’m all for free flowing attacking football, but 2-1 up, 30 mins to go, with 10 
men, and players visibly tiring, would have been a pretty good time to hold 
what you’ve got. We are not always going to stick 5 in the net (and if that is 
the genuine target then we need a couple of shit hot strikers!). Even Bielsa 
acknowledged he might not have got it right, although he also didn’t concede he 
was wrong either :-) 



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> On 3 Jan 2019, at 13:24, Richard Naef  wrote:
> 
> So True Rob, even if it doesn't reap rewards it's such fun and let's face it, 
>  "it's only a game"  
> 
> Coat on ...
> 
> ttfn
> 
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Robert Heath
> Sent: 03 January 2019 07:01
> To: Roger Goodair 
> Cc: Leeds List 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Forest and January signings
> 
> Actually, i am thrilled that, 2-1 up away with 10 men and 30 mins to go, we 
> just kept on bombing forward. It didn't work out this time, but ultimately I 
> am convinced such a positive approach will reap benefits. Plus I am just 
> LOVING watching Lufc play such great football.
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 4:28 PM Roger Goodair via Leedslist < 
>> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>> 
>>   Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.
>>   I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.
>>   We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a
>>   young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us
>>   promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and
>>   BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was
>>   in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied
>>   behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and
>>   another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note
>>   that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short
>>   term contract.
>>   I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm
>>   gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,
>>   who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10
>>   men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1
>>   lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but
>>   what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and
>>   stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.
>>   Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -
>>   The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there
>>   yesterday.
>>   Back to lurkdom in pattaya.
>>   Cheers  - Rogerre
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Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

[Mark]

Me too

Cheers
Mark


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Michael Benjamin 

Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 5:38:23 AM
To: Roger Goodair; Robert Heath
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

I agree completely.

Dr. Michael Benjamin


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Robert Heath 

Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:00:52 AM
To: Roger Goodair
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

Actually, i am thrilled that, 2-1 up away with 10 men and 30 mins to go, we
just kept on bombing forward. It didn't work out this time, but ultimately
I am convinced such a positive approach will reap benefits. Plus I am just
LOVING watching Lufc play such great football.

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 4:28 PM Roger Goodair via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

>Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.
>I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.
>We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a
>young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us
>promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and
>BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was
>in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied
>behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and
>another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note
>that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short
>term contract.
>I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm
>gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,
>who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10
>men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1
>lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but
>what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and
>stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.
>Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -
>The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there
>yesterday.
>Back to lurkdom in pattaya.
>Cheers  - Rogerre
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Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

[Richard Naef]

So True Rob, even if it doesn't reap rewards it's such fun and let's face it,  
"it's only a game"  

Coat on ...

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Robert Heath
Sent: 03 January 2019 07:01
To: Roger Goodair 
Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

Actually, i am thrilled that, 2-1 up away with 10 men and 30 mins to go, we 
just kept on bombing forward. It didn't work out this time, but ultimately I am 
convinced such a positive approach will reap benefits. Plus I am just LOVING 
watching Lufc play such great football.

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 4:28 PM Roger Goodair via Leedslist < 
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

>Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.
>I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.
>We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a
>young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us
>promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and
>BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was
>in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied
>behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and
>another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note
>that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short
>term contract.
>I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm
>gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,
>who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10
>men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1
>lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but
>what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and
>stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.
>Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -
>The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there
>yesterday.
>Back to lurkdom in pattaya.
>Cheers  - Rogerre
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Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

[Michael Benjamin]

I agree completely.

Dr. Michael Benjamin


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Robert Heath 

Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:00:52 AM
To: Roger Goodair
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

Actually, i am thrilled that, 2-1 up away with 10 men and 30 mins to go, we
just kept on bombing forward. It didn't work out this time, but ultimately
I am convinced such a positive approach will reap benefits. Plus I am just
LOVING watching Lufc play such great football.

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 4:28 PM Roger Goodair via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

>Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.
>I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.
>We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a
>young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us
>promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and
>BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was
>in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied
>behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and
>another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note
>that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short
>term contract.
>I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm
>gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,
>who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10
>men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1
>lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but
>what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and
>stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.
>Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -
>The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there
>yesterday.
>Back to lurkdom in pattaya.
>Cheers  - Rogerre
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Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

[Robert Heath]

Actually, i am thrilled that, 2-1 up away with 10 men and 30 mins to go, we
just kept on bombing forward. It didn't work out this time, but ultimately
I am convinced such a positive approach will reap benefits. Plus I am just
LOVING watching Lufc play such great football.

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 4:28 PM Roger Goodair via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

>Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.
>I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.
>We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a
>young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us
>promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and
>BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was
>in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied
>behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and
>another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note
>that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short
>term contract.
>I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm
>gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,
>who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10
>men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1
>lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but
>what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and
>stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.
>Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -
>The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there
>yesterday.
>Back to lurkdom in pattaya.
>Cheers  - Rogerre
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Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

[Simon McNally]

And try not to fake injury to avoid playing 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Jan 2019, at 18:07, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
> 
> I think Silvestri was a good keeper. He also just needed more time to get 
> acquainted to the Championship. 
> 
> Nick
> 
> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019, 1:04:01 PM EST, Simon McNally 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> My issue is with the ones that have gone through his hands or the ones he’s 
> not got to because his starting position was poor.
> I agree though, second best defence in the league with a dodgy keeper and not 
> our first choice defence for most of the season.
> I just worry that he’s going to cost us games, and promotion. It’s the 
> Weidwald argument all over again - the team are keeping clean sheets and not 
> conceding many so you can’t drop the keeper. We saw how that ended up.
> Would I rather have Weidwald back or Silvestri? Not a chance.
> Do I think we could and should be trying to get better than BPF? Absolutely 
> 
> S
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 2 Jan 2019, at 17:49, Nick  wrote:
>> 
> 
> show me how many chances Roofe has missed - you know, for parity - (not that 
> I believe Roofe is doing a bad job…)
> 
> so the clean sheets are a team achievement, whereas the goals conceded are 
> BPF’s..?
> 
> I’m with Naef’s last post…2nd best defence in the league, half the time not 
> the first choice defence…I’ll take that.
> 
>> On 2 Jan 2019, at 17:42, Simon McNally  wrote:
>> 
> 
> By my measures? Not sure what you mean. I would say the low number of goals 
> conceded and clean sheets is more to do with the players in front of him not 
> allowing the opposition many shots at goal and the fact we tend to dominate 
> possession.
> My issue with him is as basic as I think he is poor positionally, has been 
> beaten from range too often and is looking shakier by the week. If it wasn’t 
> for Blackman ‘s injury he would’ve already been dropped. His penalty save 
> against Reading was brilliant but doesn’t make up for the mistakes.
> As I said yesterday, the last 13 shots on goal against us has led to 10 
> goals. That can’t be right.
> This is the link to the goals we’ve let in :
> https://twitter.com/leedsmetv/status/1080174563042963456?s=21
> 
> S
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 2 Jan 2019, at 17:14, Nick Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> Presumably he also gets credit for the 10 or so clean sheets in the 
>> league...if we’re judging a keeper and not the team, on this...that then 
>> gives us between 10-30 points he has achieved for us...by your measures! 
>> Puts him on a par with Roofe and Pablo...
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 2 Jan 2019, at 16:49, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Leicester want to loan him to us?
>>>   On Wednesday, January 2, 2019, 11:17:56 AM EST, Simon McNally 
>>>  wrote:  
>>> 
>>> Just seen a clip on Twitter of all the goals we’ve conceded this season and 
>>> at least half of them are his fault. I’ve got nothing against the lad, I’m 
>>> always pleased to see lads from the academy break into the team, but he’s 
>>> just not good enough.
>>> Interesting that WBA might lose Barnes as Leicester want him back and Aston 
>>> Villa might lose Abrahams because Wolves have had a bid accepted for him.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:24, Roger Goodair via Leedslist 
  wrote:
 
  Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.
  I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.
  We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a
  young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us
  promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and
  BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was
  in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied
  behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and
  another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note
  that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short
  term contract.
  I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm
  gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,
  who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10
  men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1
  lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but
  what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and
  stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.
  Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -
  The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there
  yesterday.
  Back to lurkdom in pattaya.
  Cheers  - Rogerre
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[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

 I think Silvestri was a good keeper. He also just needed more time to get 
acquainted to the Championship. 
Nick
On Wednesday, January 2, 2019, 1:04:01 PM EST, Simon McNally 
 wrote:  
 
 My issue is with the ones that have gone through his hands or the ones he’s 
not got to because his starting position was poor.I agree though, second best 
defence in the league with a dodgy keeper and not our first choice defence for 
most of the season.I just worry that he’s going to cost us games, and 
promotion. It’s the Weidwald argument all over again - the team are keeping 
clean sheets and not conceding many so you can’t drop the keeper. We saw how 
that ended up.Would I rather have Weidwald back or Silvestri? Not a chance.Do I 
think we could and should be trying to get better than BPF? Absolutely 
S
Sent from my iPhone
On 2 Jan 2019, at 17:49, Nick  wrote:



show me how many chances Roofe has missed - you know, for parity - (not that I 
believe Roofe is doing a bad job…)
so the clean sheets are a team achievement, whereas the goals conceded are 
BPF’s..?
I’m with Naef’s last post…2nd best defence in the league, half the time not the 
first choice defence…I’ll take that.

On 2 Jan 2019, at 17:42, Simon McNally  wrote:

By my measures? Not sure what you mean. I would say the low number of goals 
conceded and clean sheets is more to do with the players in front of him not 
allowing the opposition many shots at goal and the fact we tend to dominate 
possession.My issue with him is as basic as I think he is poor positionally, 
has been beaten from range too often and is looking shakier by the week. If it 
wasn’t for Blackman ‘s injury he would’ve already been dropped. His penalty 
save against Reading was brilliant but doesn’t make up for the mistakes.As I 
said yesterday, the last 13 shots on goal against us has led to 10 goals. That 
can’t be right.This is the link to the goals we’ve let in 
:https://twitter.com/leedsmetv/status/1080174563042963456?s=21
S
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On 2 Jan 2019, at 17:14, Nick Allen  wrote:


Presumably he also gets credit for the 10 or so clean sheets in the league...if 
we’re judging a keeper and not the team, on this...that then gives us between 
10-30 points he has achieved for us...by your measures! Puts him on a par with 
Roofe and Pablo...

Sent from my iPad


On 2 Jan 2019, at 16:49, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist  
wrote:





Leicester want to loan him to us?


   On Wednesday, January 2, 2019, 11:17:56 AM EST, Simon McNally 
 wrote:  





Just seen a clip on Twitter of all the goals we’ve conceded this season and at 
least half of them are his fault. I’ve got nothing against the lad, I’m always 
pleased to see lads from the academy break into the team, but he’s just not 
good enough.


Interesting that WBA might lose Barnes as Leicester want him back and Aston 
Villa might lose Abrahams because Wolves have had a bid accepted for him.





S





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On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:24, Roger Goodair via Leedslist  
wrote:









  Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.




  I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.




  We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a




  young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us




  promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and




  BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was




  in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied




  behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and




  another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note




  that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short




  term contract.




  I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm




  gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,




  who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10




  men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1




  lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but




  what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and




  stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.




  Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -




  The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there




  yesterday.




  Back to lurkdom in pattaya.




  Cheers  - Rogerre




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Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

[Simon McNally]

My issue is with the ones that have gone through his hands or the ones he’s not 
got to because his starting position was poor.
I agree though, second best defence in the league with a dodgy keeper and not 
our first choice defence for most of the season.
I just worry that he’s going to cost us games, and promotion. It’s the Weidwald 
argument all over again - the team are keeping clean sheets and not conceding 
many so you can’t drop the keeper. We saw how that ended up.
Would I rather have Weidwald back or Silvestri? Not a chance.
Do I think we could and should be trying to get better than BPF? Absolutely 

S

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> On 2 Jan 2019, at 17:49, Nick  wrote:
> 
> show me how many chances Roofe has missed - you know, for parity - (not that 
> I believe Roofe is doing a bad job…)
> 
> so the clean sheets are a team achievement, whereas the goals conceded are 
> BPF’s..?
> 
> I’m with Naef’s last post…2nd best defence in the league, half the time not 
> the first choice defence…I’ll take that.
> 
>> On 2 Jan 2019, at 17:42, Simon McNally  wrote:
>> 
>> By my measures? Not sure what you mean. I would say the low number of goals 
>> conceded and clean sheets is more to do with the players in front of him not 
>> allowing the opposition many shots at goal and the fact we tend to dominate 
>> possession.
>> My issue with him is as basic as I think he is poor positionally, has been 
>> beaten from range too often and is looking shakier by the week. If it wasn’t 
>> for Blackman ‘s injury he would’ve already been dropped. His penalty save 
>> against Reading was brilliant but doesn’t make up for the mistakes.
>> As I said yesterday, the last 13 shots on goal against us has led to 10 
>> goals. That can’t be right.
>> This is the link to the goals we’ve let in :
>> https://twitter.com/leedsmetv/status/1080174563042963456?s=21
>> 
>> S
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2 Jan 2019, at 17:14, Nick Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Presumably he also gets credit for the 10 or so clean sheets in the 
>>> league...if we’re judging a keeper and not the team, on this...that then 
>>> gives us between 10-30 points he has achieved for us...by your measures! 
>>> Puts him on a par with Roofe and Pablo...
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On 2 Jan 2019, at 16:49, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
  wrote:
 
 Leicester want to loan him to us?
   On Wednesday, January 2, 2019, 11:17:56 AM EST, Simon McNally 
  wrote:  
 
 Just seen a clip on Twitter of all the goals we’ve conceded this season 
 and at least half of them are his fault. I’ve got nothing against the lad, 
 I’m always pleased to see lads from the academy break into the team, but 
 he’s just not good enough.
 Interesting that WBA might lose Barnes as Leicester want him back and 
 Aston Villa might lose Abrahams because Wolves have had a bid accepted for 
 him.
 
 S
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:24, Roger Goodair via Leedslist 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.
>  I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.
>  We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a
>  young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us
>  promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and
>  BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was
>  in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied
>  behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and
>  another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note
>  that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short
>  term contract.
>  I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm
>  gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,
>  who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10
>  men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1
>  lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but
>  what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and
>  stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.
>  Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -
>  The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there
>  yesterday.
>  Back to lurkdom in pattaya.
>  Cheers  - Rogerre
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Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

[Nick]

show me how many chances Roofe has missed - you know, for parity - (not that I 
believe Roofe is doing a bad job…)

so the clean sheets are a team achievement, whereas the goals conceded are 
BPF’s..?

I’m with Naef’s last post…2nd best defence in the league, half the time not the 
first choice defence…I’ll take that.

> On 2 Jan 2019, at 17:42, Simon McNally  wrote:
> 
> By my measures? Not sure what you mean. I would say the low number of goals 
> conceded and clean sheets is more to do with the players in front of him not 
> allowing the opposition many shots at goal and the fact we tend to dominate 
> possession.
> My issue with him is as basic as I think he is poor positionally, has been 
> beaten from range too often and is looking shakier by the week. If it wasn’t 
> for Blackman ‘s injury he would’ve already been dropped. His penalty save 
> against Reading was brilliant but doesn’t make up for the mistakes.
> As I said yesterday, the last 13 shots on goal against us has led to 10 
> goals. That can’t be right.
> This is the link to the goals we’ve let in :
> https://twitter.com/leedsmetv/status/1080174563042963456?s=21 
> 
> 
> S
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 Jan 2019, at 17:14, Nick Allen  > wrote:
> 
>> Presumably he also gets credit for the 10 or so clean sheets in the 
>> league...if we’re judging a keeper and not the team, on this...that then 
>> gives us between 10-30 points he has achieved for us...by your measures! 
>> Puts him on a par with Roofe and Pablo...
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 2 Jan 2019, at 16:49, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Leicester want to loan him to us?
>>>   On Wednesday, January 2, 2019, 11:17:56 AM EST, Simon McNally 
>>> mailto:simon_mcna...@sky.com>> wrote:  
>>> 
>>> Just seen a clip on Twitter of all the goals we’ve conceded this season and 
>>> at least half of them are his fault. I’ve got nothing against the lad, I’m 
>>> always pleased to see lads from the academy break into the team, but he’s 
>>> just not good enough.
>>> Interesting that WBA might lose Barnes as Leicester want him back and Aston 
>>> Villa might lose Abrahams because Wolves have had a bid accepted for him.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:24, Roger Goodair via Leedslist >>> > wrote:
 
  Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.
  I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.
  We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a
  young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us
  promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and
  BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was
  in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied
  behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and
  another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note
  that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short
  term contract.
  I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm
  gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,
  who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10
  men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1
  lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but
  what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and
  stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.
  Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -
  The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there
  yesterday.
  Back to lurkdom in pattaya.
  Cheers  - Rogerre
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Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

[Simon McNally]

By my measures? Not sure what you mean. I would say the low number of goals 
conceded and clean sheets is more to do with the players in front of him not 
allowing the opposition many shots at goal and the fact we tend to dominate 
possession.
My issue with him is as basic as I think he is poor positionally, has been 
beaten from range too often and is looking shakier by the week. If it wasn’t 
for Blackman ‘s injury he would’ve already been dropped. His penalty save 
against Reading was brilliant but doesn’t make up for the mistakes.
As I said yesterday, the last 13 shots on goal against us has led to 10 goals. 
That can’t be right.
This is the link to the goals we’ve let in :
https://twitter.com/leedsmetv/status/1080174563042963456?s=21

S

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Jan 2019, at 17:14, Nick Allen  wrote:
> 
> Presumably he also gets credit for the 10 or so clean sheets in the 
> league...if we’re judging a keeper and not the team, on this...that then 
> gives us between 10-30 points he has achieved for us...by your measures! Puts 
> him on a par with Roofe and Pablo...
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 2 Jan 2019, at 16:49, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Leicester want to loan him to us?
>>   On Wednesday, January 2, 2019, 11:17:56 AM EST, Simon McNally 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> Just seen a clip on Twitter of all the goals we’ve conceded this season and 
>> at least half of them are his fault. I’ve got nothing against the lad, I’m 
>> always pleased to see lads from the academy break into the team, but he’s 
>> just not good enough.
>> Interesting that WBA might lose Barnes as Leicester want him back and Aston 
>> Villa might lose Abrahams because Wolves have had a bid accepted for him.
>> 
>> S
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:24, Roger Goodair via Leedslist  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.
>>>  I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.
>>>  We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a
>>>  young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us
>>>  promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and
>>>  BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was
>>>  in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied
>>>  behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and
>>>  another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note
>>>  that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short
>>>  term contract.
>>>  I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm
>>>  gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,
>>>  who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10
>>>  men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1
>>>  lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but
>>>  what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and
>>>  stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.
>>>  Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -
>>>  The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there
>>>  yesterday.
>>>  Back to lurkdom in pattaya.
>>>  Cheers  - Rogerre
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Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

[Nick Allen]

Presumably he also gets credit for the 10 or so clean sheets in the league...if 
we’re judging a keeper and not the team, on this...that then gives us between 
10-30 points he has achieved for us...by your measures! Puts him on a par with 
Roofe and Pablo...

Sent from my iPad

> On 2 Jan 2019, at 16:49, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> Leicester want to loan him to us?
>On Wednesday, January 2, 2019, 11:17:56 AM EST, Simon McNally 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Just seen a clip on Twitter of all the goals we’ve conceded this season and 
> at least half of them are his fault. I’ve got nothing against the lad, I’m 
> always pleased to see lads from the academy break into the team, but he’s 
> just not good enough.
> Interesting that WBA might lose Barnes as Leicester want him back and Aston 
> Villa might lose Abrahams because Wolves have had a bid accepted for him.
> 
> S
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:24, Roger Goodair via Leedslist  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>   Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.
>>   I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.
>>   We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a
>>   young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us
>>   promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and
>>   BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was
>>   in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied
>>   behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and
>>   another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note
>>   that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short
>>   term contract.
>>   I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm
>>   gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,
>>   who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10
>>   men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1
>>   lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but
>>   what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and
>>   stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.
>>   Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -
>>   The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there
>>   yesterday.
>>   Back to lurkdom in pattaya.
>>   Cheers  - Rogerre
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Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

[Simon McNally]

I doubt it.
Saw a story yesterday that Puel wants him back in Leicester.
Admittedly it was on Twitter so probably not true

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> On 2 Jan 2019, at 16:49, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
> 
> Leicester want to loan him to us?
> 
> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019, 11:17:56 AM EST, Simon McNally 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just seen a clip on Twitter of all the goals we’ve conceded this season and 
> at least half of them are his fault. I’ve got nothing against the lad, I’m 
> always pleased to see lads from the academy break into the team, but he’s 
> just not good enough.
> Interesting that WBA might lose Barnes as Leicester want him back and Aston 
> Villa might lose Abrahams because Wolves have had a bid accepted for him.
> 
> S
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:24, Roger Goodair via Leedslist  
> > wrote:
> > 
> >  Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.
> >  I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.
> >  We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a
> >  young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us
> >  promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and
> >  BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was
> >  in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied
> >  behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and
> >  another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note
> >  that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short
> >  term contract.
> >  I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm
> >  gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,
> >  who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10
> >  men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1
> >  lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but
> >  what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and
> >  stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.
> >  Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -
> >  The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there
> >  yesterday.
> >  Back to lurkdom in pattaya.
> >  Cheers  - Rogerre
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Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

 Leicester want to loan him to us?
On Wednesday, January 2, 2019, 11:17:56 AM EST, Simon McNally 
 wrote:  
 
 Just seen a clip on Twitter of all the goals we’ve conceded this season and at 
least half of them are his fault. I’ve got nothing against the lad, I’m always 
pleased to see lads from the academy break into the team, but he’s just not 
good enough.
Interesting that WBA might lose Barnes as Leicester want him back and Aston 
Villa might lose Abrahams because Wolves have had a bid accepted for him.

S

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> On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:24, Roger Goodair via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
>  Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.
>  I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.
>  We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a
>  young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us
>  promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and
>  BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was
>  in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied
>  behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and
>  another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note
>  that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short
>  term contract.
>  I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm
>  gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,
>  who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10
>  men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1
>  lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but
>  what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and
>  stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.
>  Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -
>  The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there
>  yesterday.
>  Back to lurkdom in pattaya.
>  Cheers  - Rogerre
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Re: [LU] Forest and January signings

[Simon McNally]

Just seen a clip on Twitter of all the goals we’ve conceded this season and at 
least half of them are his fault. I’ve got nothing against the lad, I’m always 
pleased to see lads from the academy break into the team, but he’s just not 
good enough.
Interesting that WBA might lose Barnes as Leicester want him back and Aston 
Villa might lose Abrahams because Wolves have had a bid accepted for him.

S

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> On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:24, Roger Goodair via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
>   Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.
>   I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.
>   We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a
>   young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us
>   promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and
>   BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was
>   in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied
>   behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and
>   another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note
>   that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short
>   term contract.
>   I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm
>   gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,
>   who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10
>   men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1
>   lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but
>   what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and
>   stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.
>   Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -
>   The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there
>   yesterday.
>   Back to lurkdom in pattaya.
>   Cheers  - Rogerre
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[LU] Forest and January signings

[Roger Goodair via Leedslist]

   Out of lurkdom for five minutes to show my age and frustration.
   I'm with Simon M 100% and Rich with regard to the lack of a plan B.
   We need to sign a new a new keeper NOW. This young man (he's not a
   young kid so let's stop making excuses for him) is going to cost us
   promotion. A good keeper gains you as many points as a good striker and
   BPF has already cost us many points this season. AGE ALERT - Sprake was
   in the team at 16 and was a better keeper than BPF with one arm tied
   behind his back!! As Simon M also said we need another centre back and
   another striker - even if Bamford does come back very shortly. I note
   that Eddie Howe is about to release Defoe - he'll do for me on a short
   term contract.
   I know it appears to be very churlish of me to criticise MB, but I'm
   gonna do anyway - absolutely no plan B other than to bring Clarke on,
   who to be fair changed the game yet again for 20 minutes. Down to 10
   men and we've worked our way back in to the game and even got a 2-1
   lead. Call me old fashioned if you must (and I know you will!)  but
   what's wrong with closing a game out these days? Make some subs and
   stick 4 or 5 at the back and kill the game against a shite forest team.
   Anyone remember 0-0 at the bridge when we only had 9 men?!  AGE ALERT -
   The Don will be turning in his casket at throwing 3 points away there
   yesterday.
   Back to lurkdom in pattaya.
   Cheers  - Rogerre
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