Re: [LU] Good to be back (Everton)
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:33 PM Robert Heath wrote: > Phillips is one of your three reasons why > we are not playing as well as you want us to? Rob - we all love him to bits, that's why he's judged against a higher standard than anybody else. Quite rightly! :) Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Good to be back (Everton)
Not judged harshly at all. I scored him Phillips - 6. Did well to keep Richarlson quiteish first half. I think he was probably a 8 for periods of the first half and then tailed off 2nd to a 4/5. Nick wrote: Phillips - was weirdly off the pace (dreadful spelling of giving the ball away), then on top of the game, before tailing off again presumably fatigue - I hope Forshaw has enough in the tank to be good cover for him, because we need it. So I think there was general agreement that Phillips did ok but is obviously not as fit as he would like and that's even by his own admission. > > > On Tuesday, 24 August 2021, 13:08:06 BST, Robert Heath > wrote: Oh great.the match reports are back! Dave's was great, thanks! As for the other onePhillips is one of your three reasons why we are not playing as well as you want us to? Due to his lack of fitness? Here's an alternative view of Kalvin's performance yesterday: https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-kalvin-phillips-everton-21370772 I noticed in all that, although apparently unfit Phillips also covered more ground than any other player as Leeds drew 2-2 with Everton. The 11.57 kilometres he ran was a fraction further than Everton's Abdoulaye Doucoure according to Opta - Still, I can understand why we might want to judge Kalvin Phillips harshly. After all, he's only a local lad, born in the shadow of the stadium, who is a humble and likable character, and has just become the first Leeds player to play for England in a major final for 55 years. On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 12:34 PM Richard Walker via Leedslist wrote: Well, I missed my first 'first home game' since the relegation season of 81-82 season due to shambolic ticket arrangements. Paying £70 for a Gold Membership wasn't enough to secure me a ticket as it was a free for all when the tickets were released. Then I entered into around 10 hours (I kid you not) of refreshing screens to try and grab and returned tickets. I don't think I saw one ticket come up in that time despite lots of messages on Twitter saying that they had managed to grab a ticket. Then on Saturday morning I turned to the touts and kranks and was offered all sorts but I was so pissed off by then I decide to crack open the beer with a couple of mates and watch on TV. What made it worse was all the Twitter messages of people going to their first game and empty seats not taken up. A real shit show from LUFC. Surprisingly it was easy to get a Crewe ticket. Anyway, on to the footy and I thought it was a decent game with two evenly matched teams. I thought Everton looked sharp with Gray, who was a yard or two too quick for Ayling and others, whereas Raph for us looked like he meant business. I thought we looked our most dangerous in the first half, getting back to our quick attacking football of last season although I don't think we are quite there yet. The reasons for me were: 1) Firpo - early days for the lad and he definitely did try to get forward early on and try to overlap, however he doesn't look that dynamic or pacey for me and I'm not sure if he is replacing Allioski on that display. Haven't seen too much defensive ability either. He was also out on his feet after 50 mins and was quickly taken off. Going to be hard road for Junior. 2) Centre back pairing isn't good enough. Cooper's method of defending is going to cost us. It did yesterday with his shit tugging antics. It's something he does frequently and does tend to get away with but he's got to stop that now. Overall, I'd say Cooper is at best a squad player and playing alongside the inexperienced Struijk it's no surprise we're leaking goals. Llorente and Koch are the pairing for me but we have to accept that both have been injured for long periods since joining the club. 3) Phillips - did well first half but I think he ran out of steam and by his own admission is not as fit as he should be. Fuck knows why ? Here's my scores: Miesler - 8. Kept us in the game as he always does Ayling - 4. I thought that was his poorest game for a long time. Gray ran rings around him. Firpo - 4. Not convinced but early days Struijk - 5. Looks the part but I'm unsure about his positioning in key moments. Cooper - 3. Dreadful defending and could have easily been sent off with another careless tackle 2nd half Phillips - 6. Did well to keep Richarlson quiteish first half. Klich - 7. Lots of running and took his goal well Bamford - 7. Fantastic first half
Re: [LU] Good to be back (Everton)
Oh great.the match reports are back! Dave's was great, thanks! As for the other onePhillips is one of your three reasons why we are not playing as well as you want us to? Due to his lack of fitness? Here's an alternative view of Kalvin's performance yesterday: https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-kalvin-phillips-everton-21370772 I noticed in all that, although apparently unfit Phillips also covered more ground than any other player as Leeds drew 2-2 with Everton. The 11.57 kilometres he ran was a fraction further than Everton's Abdoulaye Doucoure according to Opta - Still, I can understand why we might want to judge Kalvin Phillips harshly. After all, he's only a local lad, born in the shadow of the stadium, who is a humble and likable character, and has just become the first Leeds player to play for England in a major final for 55 years. On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 12:34 PM Richard Walker via Leedslist < leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: > Well, I missed my first 'first home game' since the relegation season of > 81-82 season due to shambolic ticket arrangements. Paying £70 for a Gold > Membership wasn't enough to secure me a ticket as it was a free for all > when the tickets were released. Then I entered into around 10 hours (I kid > you not) of refreshing screens to try and grab and returned tickets. I > don't think I saw one ticket come up in that time despite lots of messages > on Twitter saying that they had managed to grab a ticket. Then on Saturday > morning I turned to the touts and kranks and was offered all sorts but I > was so pissed off by then I decide to crack open the beer with a couple of > mates and watch on TV. What made it worse was all the Twitter messages of > people going to their first game and empty seats not taken up. A real shit > show from LUFC. Surprisingly it was easy to get a Crewe ticket. > Anyway, on to the footy and I thought it was a decent game with two evenly > matched teams. I thought Everton looked sharp with Gray, who was a yard or > two too quick for Ayling and others, whereas Raph for us looked like he > meant business. > I thought we looked our most dangerous in the first half, getting back to > our quick attacking football of last season although I don't think we are > quite there yet. The reasons for me were: > 1) Firpo - early days for the lad and he definitely did try to get forward > early on and try to overlap, however he doesn't look that dynamic or pacey > for me and I'm not sure if he is replacing Allioski on that display. > Haven't seen too much defensive ability either. He was also out on his feet > after 50 mins and was quickly taken off. Going to be hard road for Junior. > 2) Centre back pairing isn't good enough. Cooper's method of defending is > going to cost us. It did yesterday with his shit tugging antics. It's > something he does frequently and does tend to get away with but he's got to > stop that now. Overall, I'd say Cooper is at best a squad player and > playing alongside the inexperienced Struijk it's no surprise we're leaking > goals. Llorente and Koch are the pairing for me but we have to accept that > both have been injured for long periods since joining the club. > 3) Phillips - did well first half but I think he ran out of steam and by > his own admission is not as fit as he should be. Fuck knows why ? > Here's my scores: > Miesler - 8. Kept us in the game as he always does > Ayling - 4. I thought that was his poorest game for a long time. Gray ran > rings around him. > Firpo - 4. Not convinced but early days > Struijk - 5. Looks the part but I'm unsure about his positioning in key > moments. > Cooper - 3. Dreadful defending and could have easily been sent off with > another careless tackle 2nd half > Phillips - 6. Did well to keep Richarlson quiteish first half. > Klich - 7. Lots of running and took his goal well > Bamford - 7. Fantastic first half but faded and started to look a tad > desperate towards the end. > Raphinha - 8. Our best player by a mile. Fantastic strike for the goal > Dallas - 7. Playing all over the park. Some great defensive work. > Harrison - 7. Lively first half but faded 2nd. > Subs: > Roberts - one or two moments > Shack - not involved too much. > On Sunday, 22 August 2021, 10:48:27 BST, nattan--- via Leedslist < > leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: > > Well we are back and back with a bang - the atmosphere was everything we > remembered and more , the limbs after the 2 goals were as good as any game > since we went all seaterIt was a fitting game to re- start in front of fans > , lots of end to end stuff, some crunching tackles, decent > chances ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! >
[LU] Good to be back (Everton)
Morning All Agree with everything you said Dave, as for getting a beer, I don't think it helps that the Centenary Pavillion was all corporate on Saturday, they did erect a small (very small) marquee next door, but that wasn't adequate either, installed an e-bar, serve yourselves. We went to Billy's bar, which was ok, but at £4.95 a pink, I think it'll be the Peacock or town next time. Still a brilliant day, with a great game thrown in Paul On 22 August 2021 at 12:00, leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.org wrote: -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 09:48:12 + (UTC) From: "nat...@sky.com" To: leeds list Subject: [LU] Good to be back (Everton) Message-ID: <1326742866.980551.1629625692...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Well we are back and back with a bang - the atmosphere was everything we remembered and more , the limbs after the 2 goals were as good as any game since we went all seaterIt was a fitting game to re- start in front of fans , lots of end to end stuff, some crunching tackles, decent chances and saves, 2 great goals from us as we came from behind and a raucous atmosphere throughout. On MOTD compare the polite applause at Man City as the 5th went in v our ‘scenes’ when Raph banged in the equaliser ( and I know they are not strictly comparable)Just a shame that the last minute scramble / foul on Bamford did not earn us a winner So 90 mins was great but I am not sure what to expect with everything else - we had full houses every week before lock down but no game seenec as packed as this one. The train was full of Everton ( first time seen away fans in numbers) and then it was 5 or 6 deep in the West Ridings - so bad we doubled up first round ( as did others) We left early to meet someone on fanszone at 1.45 but the bus queue was massive and Uber had no drivers ! Eventually flagged a cab who dropped us at the roundabout at the top of the hill, so bad was the traffic . Fanzone queues were so long we went into the Revie members bar to ensure we got served before kickoff ( lager and cider both went off )Like I say no idea why things were so packed for same number of fans as last season so god only knows what havoc 55,000 capacity will bringWas great to see everyone I recognise near me made it through covid alive and well and the minutes silence that became applause / singing to commemorate those we have lost made hairs on my neck stand up. For me it was poignant to walk past the Burley Banksy box in memory of Big Jack the man I blame for my life :-)) The game was played at a frantic pace , they were mainly content to soak up pressure and hit us on the break ( they probably had more and better clear chances) we had control it were not too threatening. The penalty decision was odd - we saw nothing and thought they were looking at VAR to fill time while Klich received treatment- knew it was bad when ref took a look . Calvin Lewis was a right dick after scoring- doing the shush gesture before some wanky dancing - twat . Their no7 dived and moaned his way through the game a la Grealish so a team not on our radar became a team we hated ( for the day at least)Our equaliser was magnificent- Bamford stole the ball and fed Klich who finished with real style - cue bedlamSecond half they did more and went ahead and we nearly fell apart saved ( literally by Mes) then came the equaliser, a cross from Kalvin and in a scramble Coops fed Raph who thundered it home - cracking finish We tried to win it but a draw was fair ( and beat last seasons result) So a point on the board and the season is up and running and I LOVE IT Dave -- Subject: Digest Footer ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Norman MOT -- End of Leedslist Digest, Vol 134, Issue 10 ** ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Good to be back (Everton)
Rich, I don't think Bielsa will ever pick your favored centre-half combination of Koch and Llorente unless he has no other choice, because they're each right-footed and he prefers to pair a left-footer (Cooper or Struijk) with a right-footer. Yesterday the fact that Llorente and Koch were each out with knocks left him no choice. For me, I'd like to see Struijk and Llorente get a run of games together. I saw somewhere that we concede more than twice as many goals when Llorente doesn't play. Cheers! Sean -Original Message- From: Richard Walker via Leedslist To: leeds list ; nat...@sky.com Sent: Sun, Aug 22, 2021 7:34 am Subject: Re: [LU] Good to be back (Everton) Well, I missed my first 'first home game' since the relegation season of 81-82 season due to shambolic ticket arrangements. Paying £70 for a Gold Membership wasn't enough to secure me a ticket as it was a free for all when the tickets were released. Then I entered into around 10 hours (I kid you not) of refreshing screens to try and grab and returned tickets. I don't think I saw one ticket come up in that time despite lots of messages on Twitter saying that they had managed to grab a ticket. Then on Saturday morning I turned to the touts and kranks and was offered all sorts but I was so pissed off by then I decide to crack open the beer with a couple of mates and watch on TV. What made it worse was all the Twitter messages of people going to their first game and empty seats not taken up. A real shit show from LUFC. Surprisingly it was easy to get a Crewe ticket. Anyway, on to the footy and I thought it was a decent game with two evenly matched teams. I thought Everton looked sharp with Gray, who was a yard or two too quick for Ayling and others, whereas Raph for us looked like he meant business. I thought we looked our most dangerous in the first half, getting back to our quick attacking football of last season although I don't think we are quite there yet. The reasons for me were: 1) Firpo - early days for the lad and he definitely did try to get forward early on and try to overlap, however he doesn't look that dynamic or pacey for me and I'm not sure if he is replacing Allioski on that display. Haven't seen too much defensive ability either. He was also out on his feet after 50 mins and was quickly taken off. Going to be hard road for Junior. 2) Centre back pairing isn't good enough. Cooper's method of defending is going to cost us. It did yesterday with his shit tugging antics. It's something he does frequently and does tend to get away with but he's got to stop that now. Overall, I'd say Cooper is at best a squad player and playing alongside the inexperienced Struijk it's no surprise we're leaking goals. Llorente and Koch are the pairing for me but we have to accept that both have been injured for long periods since joining the club. 3) Phillips - did well first half but I think he ran out of steam and by his own admission is not as fit as he should be. Fuck knows why ? Here's my scores: Miesler - 8. Kept us in the game as he always does Ayling - 4. I thought that was his poorest game for a long time. Gray ran rings around him. Firpo - 4. Not convinced but early days Struijk - 5. Looks the part but I'm unsure about his positioning in key moments. Cooper - 3. Dreadful defending and could have easily been sent off with another careless tackle 2nd half Phillips - 6. Did well to keep Richarlson quiteish first half. Klich - 7. Lots of running and took his goal well Bamford - 7. Fantastic first half but faded and started to look a tad desperate towards the end. Raphinha - 8. Our best player by a mile. Fantastic strike for the goal Dallas - 7. Playing all over the park. Some great defensive work. Harrison - 7. Lively first half but faded 2nd. Subs: Roberts - one or two moments Shack - not involved too much. On Sunday, 22 August 2021, 10:48:27 BST, nattan--- via Leedslist wrote: Well we are back and back with a bang - the atmosphere was everything we remembered and more , the limbs after the 2 goals were as good as any game since we went all seaterIt was a fitting game to re- start in front of fans , lots of end to end stuff, some crunching tackles, decent chances ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org
Re: [LU] Good to be back (Everton)
Well, I missed my first 'first home game' since the relegation season of 81-82 season due to shambolic ticket arrangements. Paying £70 for a Gold Membership wasn't enough to secure me a ticket as it was a free for all when the tickets were released. Then I entered into around 10 hours (I kid you not) of refreshing screens to try and grab and returned tickets. I don't think I saw one ticket come up in that time despite lots of messages on Twitter saying that they had managed to grab a ticket. Then on Saturday morning I turned to the touts and kranks and was offered all sorts but I was so pissed off by then I decide to crack open the beer with a couple of mates and watch on TV. What made it worse was all the Twitter messages of people going to their first game and empty seats not taken up. A real shit show from LUFC. Surprisingly it was easy to get a Crewe ticket. Anyway, on to the footy and I thought it was a decent game with two evenly matched teams. I thought Everton looked sharp with Gray, who was a yard or two too quick for Ayling and others, whereas Raph for us looked like he meant business. I thought we looked our most dangerous in the first half, getting back to our quick attacking football of last season although I don't think we are quite there yet. The reasons for me were: 1) Firpo - early days for the lad and he definitely did try to get forward early on and try to overlap, however he doesn't look that dynamic or pacey for me and I'm not sure if he is replacing Allioski on that display. Haven't seen too much defensive ability either. He was also out on his feet after 50 mins and was quickly taken off. Going to be hard road for Junior. 2) Centre back pairing isn't good enough. Cooper's method of defending is going to cost us. It did yesterday with his shit tugging antics. It's something he does frequently and does tend to get away with but he's got to stop that now. Overall, I'd say Cooper is at best a squad player and playing alongside the inexperienced Struijk it's no surprise we're leaking goals. Llorente and Koch are the pairing for me but we have to accept that both have been injured for long periods since joining the club. 3) Phillips - did well first half but I think he ran out of steam and by his own admission is not as fit as he should be. Fuck knows why ? Here's my scores: Miesler - 8. Kept us in the game as he always does Ayling - 4. I thought that was his poorest game for a long time. Gray ran rings around him. Firpo - 4. Not convinced but early days Struijk - 5. Looks the part but I'm unsure about his positioning in key moments. Cooper - 3. Dreadful defending and could have easily been sent off with another careless tackle 2nd half Phillips - 6. Did well to keep Richarlson quiteish first half. Klich - 7. Lots of running and took his goal well Bamford - 7. Fantastic first half but faded and started to look a tad desperate towards the end. Raphinha - 8. Our best player by a mile. Fantastic strike for the goal Dallas - 7. Playing all over the park. Some great defensive work. Harrison - 7. Lively first half but faded 2nd. Subs: Roberts - one or two moments Shack - not involved too much. On Sunday, 22 August 2021, 10:48:27 BST, nattan--- via Leedslist wrote: Well we are back and back with a bang - the atmosphere was everything we remembered and more , the limbs after the 2 goals were as good as any game since we went all seaterIt was a fitting game to re- start in front of fans , lots of end to end stuff, some crunching tackles, decent chances ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
[LU] Good to be back (Everton)
Well we are back and back with a bang - the atmosphere was everything we remembered and more , the limbs after the 2 goals were as good as any game since we went all seaterIt was a fitting game to re- start in front of fans , lots of end to end stuff, some crunching tackles, decent chances and saves, 2 great goals from us as we came from behind and a raucous atmosphere throughout. On MOTD compare the polite applause at Man City as the 5th went in v our ‘scenes’ when Raph banged in the equaliser ( and I know they are not strictly comparable)Just a shame that the last minute scramble / foul on Bamford did not earn us a winner So 90 mins was great but I am not sure what to expect with everything else - we had full houses every week before lock down but no game seenec as packed as this one. The train was full of Everton ( first time seen away fans in numbers) and then it was 5 or 6 deep in the West Ridings - so bad we doubled up first round ( as did others) We left early to meet someone on fanszone at 1.45 but the bus queue was massive and Uber had no drivers ! Eventually flagged a cab who dropped us at the roundabout at the top of the hill, so bad was the traffic . Fanzone queues were so long we went into the Revie members bar to ensure we got served before kickoff ( lager and cider both went off )Like I say no idea why things were so packed for same number of fans as last season so god only knows what havoc 55,000 capacity will bringWas great to see everyone I recognise near me made it through covid alive and well and the minutes silence that became applause / singing to commemorate those we have lost made hairs on my neck stand up. For me it was poignant to walk past the Burley Banksy box in memory of Big Jack the man I blame for my life :-)) The game was played at a frantic pace , they were mainly content to soak up pressure and hit us on the break ( they probably had more and better clear chances) we had control it were not too threatening. The penalty decision was odd - we saw nothing and thought they were looking at VAR to fill time while Klich received treatment- knew it was bad when ref took a look . Calvin Lewis was a right dick after scoring- doing the shush gesture before some wanky dancing - twat . Their no7 dived and moaned his way through the game a la Grealish so a team not on our radar became a team we hated ( for the day at least)Our equaliser was magnificent- Bamford stole the ball and fed Klich who finished with real style - cue bedlamSecond half they did more and went ahead and we nearly fell apart saved ( literally by Mes) then came the equaliser, a cross from Kalvin and in a scramble Coops fed Raph who thundered it home - cracking finish We tried to win it but a draw was fair ( and beat last seasons result) So a point on the board and the season is up and running and I LOVE IT Dave ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
