Re: [LU] Wood / Bridcutt

2017-08-21 Thread {broken-address} Richard Walker
and that's what I was saying all last season Dave, despite Wood's goals. 
Yes he scored a shedload but I consistently said in my match reports that the 
style of play with him in the side as a lone striker wouldn't be good enough 
for promotion. I also think his general play is not good enough for a promotion 
winning team, and so it turned out to be. 
I think he will be a spectacular failure for Burnley unless they've got 2 
wingers who can put the ball on sixpence in the 6 yard back week in week out. I 
don't think they have. 
I think the set up we've got now will involve more counter attacks and runs 
from midfield which put him in strange territory for the first two league games 
and he showed that when he has to think about things he doesn't have that 
natural goalscorers instinct. 
I have very glad to see him go and for £15 million plus ... well I'd put that 
in our top 3 transfer successes of all time. 

  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Monday, 21 August 2017, 15:44
 Subject: [LU] Wood / Bridcutt
   
It now looks like Bridcutt will be following Wood out of the door
I liked Wood and thought he was outstanding for us last year and would have got 
us 20 goals this time around BUT that is because our whole game revolved around 
him and our one plan was to feed him the ball so he could score (which he did) 
- we can  , if we get the right replacement or if Ekuban comes good, be a much 
different team up front and get more players to score the same amount of 
goals.I am not sure if his two misses this season are due to him not fitting 
into our new way of playing or just bad luck / poor finishing. Wood liked the 
ball crossed to his feet , not being played through against the keeper.

I think he will do Ok for Burnley (but don't care one way or the other) and I 
do not blame any player for going to a Premier League club - the timing of 
Wood's move does stink a bit - everyone knew or could anticipate after his 
goals last season that someone would make an offer for him. I hope that we have 
been making a few discreet enquiries behind the scenes and find a good 
replacement without having to act hastily
I am impressed with Radz comments about how and why he left and even better I 
like the free refund on 'Wood 9' shirts - a good move
Re Bridcutt - I liked him when he was on loan but never really got the clamour 
for us to sign him. Once he became a permanent player he did have as many poor 
games as good and I do prefer Vieira to him, I think Vieira has a lot more to 
offer. Given that he is 5th in line for 2 positions , maybe 6th if Anita is 
veiwed as a centre mid - O'Kane and Phillips look like first choice with Vieira 
and Klitch as back-up, I understand why Bridcutt wants to go. I would make sure 
he cannot play against us on Saturday since he is capable of doing well in any 
given game.
I was very impressed with the Sunderland performance and hope that Saiz and 
Alioski can really kick on from that game.
Maybe Roofe, with whom I am losing belief and patience, will get the chance to 
play up front tomorrow v Newport and get a couple of goals
I know nothing about Gestede or Van Grot, two players we are being linked with 
- not sure about Rhodes or Nanki Wells either - I think they have a lot of 
faults in their games but in the right team they could do OK
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Re: [LU] Wood

2017-08-19 Thread {broken-address}
I think we now need a marquee signing, a la Strachan/Vinnie. Two real up and 
coming forwards, pacy with it, would be nice though! I think Radz has done well 
so far, but a couple more 0-0s and there will be some grumbling being aired!

Good luck to Wood - I can't see the dollop making it, but then I've never liked 
Burnley so should be a good match :-)

Sent from my iPad

> On 19 Aug 2017, at 11:33, Jeremy Adams  wrote:
> 
> He has bought the ground back Rich, and seems to be investing in fixing up 
> Elland Road, not direct team investment I know but he has supported a slew of 
> signings as well, some of whom actually look like a bargain and not just 
> Cellino's chums from Italy.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
> Richard Walker 
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 2:20:29 AM
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Wood
> 
> Twitter reporting Leeds have agreed £15 million for Wood, medical today.
> If true, I think this is the best deal in LUFC history and daylight robbery. 
> Wood will not make it in the PL especially with a struggling team.
> on a wider point Radrizzani getting lots of praise for the money is ploughing 
> in to the club, however he's pocketed 6 million for Taylor and now £15 
> million for Wood - what big transfers have we seen come in ? If this was 
> Cellino he'd be getting slated,
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Re: [LU] Wood

2017-08-19 Thread Richard Naef
> and there's no real argument against that in this day and age.

Yeah, the players have almost all the power now, it’s a brave rich owner who 
will just let a player hang around in the stiffs rather than let him go – I 
suspect Coutinho and Costa will both get the moves they want by the end of the 
month.

However I think the “players were more loyal in the olden days” meme is a bit 
over played.  The wages available were miniscule then and there weren’t any 
billionaires offering unlimited riches.  Most of the owners of clubs knew each 
other and there were informal agreements to keep wages down.  It wasn’t really 
until the 80’s the emergence of “Agents” and the newmoney owners coming in 
along with the Bosman ruling that Players’ loyalty was really tested and then 
found wanting.

What would have happened if scum had offered Billy 5 times his Leeds wages?

ttfn

Richard

From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 19 August 2017 13:45
To: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Wood

yes he did get mccormack and Lewis Cook money and to be honest I'm playing 
devil's advocate but if Wood goes this fella will get no stick yet Bates and 
Cellino were murdered for selling our best players. I actually don't blame the 
club for Howson, Cook, Byram, Taylor, Wood etc I blame the fact that players 
have no loyalty and are out for the money - and there's no real argument 
against that in this day and age.

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Re: [LU] Wood

2017-08-19 Thread {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Agreed!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2017, at 7:58 AM, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> 
> wrote:
> 
> He also extended the deals for senior players and youth.  
> 
> He's also coughed up about £12M in new players and Jansson & Sacko.
> 
> He's employed proper business management staff and hasn't said or done a 
> single embarrassing thing or been in court for any dodgy dealing, there 
> really is no comparison between the 2.
> 
> ttfn
> 
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy 
> Adams
> Sent: 19 August 2017 11:33
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Wood
> 
> He has bought the ground back Rich, and seems to be investing in fixing up 
> Elland Road, not direct team investment I know but he has supported a slew of 
> signings as well, some of whom actually look like a bargain and not just 
> Cellino's chums from Italy.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Wood

2017-08-19 Thread Richard Naef
>Not sure if this lot (below) adds up to 12M ? Also he received 6-7 million for 
>Charlie Taylor so taking all that into account its not a lot of money. Also, 
>did he know Wood was going to leave ? Mmmm 
>Cellino - coughed up £3 million for Roofe, 3 million for Wood , 2-3 million 
>for Bridcutt , 1 million for O'Kane
>It could be argued that he's spent more !

Over his 3 years compared to AR’s 6 months possibly, remember MC got the dosh 
for McCormack and a few others as well.


For reasonably reliable figures of the purchases check this out….

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leeds-united/transfers/verein/399
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Re: [LU] Wood

2017-08-19 Thread {broken-address} Richard Walker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>He's also coughed up about £12M in new players 
Not sure if this lot (below) adds up to 12M ? Also he received 6-7 million for 
Charlie Taylor so taking all that into account its not a lot of money. Also, 
did he know Wood was going to leave ? Mmmm 
Cellino - coughed up £3 million for Roofe, 3 million for Wood , 2-3 million for 
Bridcutt , 1 million for O'Kane 
It could be argued that he's spent more ! 






  From: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
 To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017, 12:58
 Subject: Re: [LU] Wood
   
He also extended the deals for senior players and youth.  

He's also coughed up about £12M in new players and Jansson & Sacko.

He's employed proper business management staff and hasn't said or done a single 
embarrassing thing or been in court for any dodgy dealing, there really is no 
comparison between the 2.

ttfn

Richard

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From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Adams
Sent: 19 August 2017 11:33
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [LU] Wood

He has bought the ground back Rich, and seems to be investing in fixing up 
Elland Road, not direct team investment I know but he has supported a slew of 
signings as well, some of whom actually look like a bargain and not just 
Cellino's chums from Italy.




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Re: [LU] Wood

2017-08-19 Thread {broken-address} Richard Walker
Yes, he's obviously got more cash than Cellino - of that there is no doubt but 
if you look at it from another perspective he is about to pocket £21 million 
from transfers and all we've seen are a collection of foreign recruits some of 
which are struggling to get in the team. Is our team better that the one we 
finished last season ? Not sure. 
Let's see how much of that £21 million is ploughed back into the team or how 
much will be used to recoup the 20 million he paid for the stadium ? 

  From: Jeremy Adams <jeremyadam...@hotmail.com>
 To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> 
 Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017, 11:33
 Subject: Re: [LU] Wood
   
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He has bought the ground back Rich, and seems to be investing in fixing up 
Elland Road, not direct team investment I know but he has supported a slew of 
signings as well, some of whom actually look like a bargain and not just 
Cellino's chums from Italy.

From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of {broken-address} 
Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 2:20:29 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Wood Twitter reporting Leeds have agreed £15 million for Wood, 
medical today. 
If true, I think this is the best deal in LUFC history and daylight robbery. 
Wood will not make it in the PL especially with a struggling team.
on a wider point Radrizzani getting lots of praise for the money is ploughing 
in to the club, however he's pocketed 6 million for Taylor and now £15 million 
for Wood - what big transfers have we seen come in ? If this was Cellino he'd 
be getting slated, 

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Re: [LU] Wood

2017-08-19 Thread Michael Benjamin
You are wasting your time. 
They're not listening. 
I agree with everything you say. Mind you, I thought the last game was dire!


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|-Original Message-
|From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard
|Naef
|Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 2:58 PM
|To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
|Subject: Re: [LU] Wood
|
|He also extended the deals for senior players and youth.
|
|He's also coughed up about £12M in new players and Jansson & Sacko.
|
|He's employed proper business management staff and hasn't said or done a
|single embarrassing thing or been in court for any dodgy dealing, there really 
is
|no comparison between the 2.
|
|ttfn
|
|Richard
|
|-Original Message-
|From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy
|Adams
|Sent: 19 August 2017 11:33
|To: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
|Subject: Re: [LU] Wood
|
|He has bought the ground back Rich, and seems to be investing in fixing up
|Elland Road, not direct team investment I know but he has supported a slew of
|signings as well, some of whom actually look like a bargain and not just 
Cellino's
|chums from Italy.
|
|
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Re: [LU] Wood

2017-08-19 Thread Richard Naef
He also extended the deals for senior players and youth.  

He's also coughed up about £12M in new players and Jansson & Sacko.

He's employed proper business management staff and hasn't said or done a single 
embarrassing thing or been in court for any dodgy dealing, there really is no 
comparison between the 2.

ttfn

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Adams
Sent: 19 August 2017 11:33
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [LU] Wood

He has bought the ground back Rich, and seems to be investing in fixing up 
Elland Road, not direct team investment I know but he has supported a slew of 
signings as well, some of whom actually look like a bargain and not just 
Cellino's chums from Italy.




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Re: [LU] Wood

2017-08-19 Thread Jeremy Adams
He has bought the ground back Rich, and seems to be investing in fixing up 
Elland Road, not direct team investment I know but he has supported a slew of 
signings as well, some of whom actually look like a bargain and not just 
Cellino's chums from Italy.




From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
Richard Walker 
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 2:20:29 AM
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Wood

Twitter reporting Leeds have agreed £15 million for Wood, medical today.
If true, I think this is the best deal in LUFC history and daylight robbery. 
Wood will not make it in the PL especially with a struggling team.
on a wider point Radrizzani getting lots of praise for the money is ploughing 
in to the club, however he's pocketed 6 million for Taylor and now £15 million 
for Wood - what big transfers have we seen come in ? If this was Cellino he'd 
be getting slated,

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Re: [LU] Wood

2016-04-10 Thread Richard Walker
Or John Pearson 


> On 10 Apr 2016, at 06:58, Nick Allen  wrote:
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> Chris Wood makes me long for the guile and penetration offered by Matt Smith.
> 
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Re: [LU] Wood

2016-04-10 Thread Nick Allen
Bet you were beside yourself when the club erected a statue to Bremner.

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> OO-ER all he offered me was a quick cuddle behind the cowshed. 
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> Chris Wood makes me long for the guile and penetration offered by Matt Smith. 
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Re: [LU] Wood

2016-04-10 Thread wayne callaghan

OO-ER all he offered me was a quick cuddle behind the cowshed.




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Chris Wood makes me long for the guile and penetration offered by Matt 
Smith.


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Re: [LU] wood

2016-04-09 Thread wayne callaghan
Definitely deserved a point, I thought we stepped it up when antenucci came 
on, but we are a poor to mediocre side at best. Wholesale changes needed 
for next season, including a new manager.


Wayne

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On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 2:06 PM, nat...@sky.com < nat...@sky.com 
[nat...@sky.com] > wrote:
I know he has now missed our two best (only?) clear chances but at least he 
is getting into positions etc. I still think , injuries permitting. he will 
do a decent job for us


In fairness we have done a lot better this half and actually created a 
couple of chances but then one break from them and it was nearly game over



We do perhaps deserve a point here ?

dave
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Re: [LU] wood

2016-04-09 Thread Richard Walker
Burnley were terrible and if we had a striker who knew his arse from his elbow 
we would have won even with luke murphy in the side.

What a lo quality game - some of these guys are really poor footballers - 
pinching a living. 



> On 9 Apr 2016, at 14:06, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> 
> I know he has now missed our two best (only?) clear chances but at least he 
> is getting into positions etc. I still think , injuries permitting. he will 
> do a decent job for us
> 
> In fairness we have done a lot better this half and actually created a couple 
> of chances but then one break from them and it was nearly game over
> 
> 
> We do perhaps deserve a point here ?
> 
> dave
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