Re: my burnt mill
Good morning all Bill .I don't know what you have as far as ball bearings company's around you, but I know that there are thousands of ball bearings sets and stiles out there, you should be able to find something to fit the bill? I would first try to true up the old head stock shaft , have it turned on a lathe to remove any and all warpage that may have happened due to the fire, then go to a ball bearing company to see what that have. Another idea is to call Legacy and see if they will sell you a new ball bearing set to replace the old one lost in the fire? A third idea here is to pore a Babbitt for the head stock your self ? I wish you luck, getting your machine back together. I know it will happen, the only questions, that I see are,How and When. ;-) Have a good day. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 2:08 AM Subject: Re: my burnt mill here its very difficult to get a accurate size who knows what the heat did to the dimentions of them Bill - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 1:57 PM Subject: Re: my burnt mill Ok, my second best guess would be the 09074 bearing with a 09194 race. Timken brand. The od is 1.938 and the width of the cup (race) would be .6875. I'm positive about the other bearing. -Tim - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:35 PM Subject: Re: my burnt mill sorry I cant confirm the bearing numbers they are too far gone to read anything but the sizes of the tapered bearing are ID .748 OD 1.935 the other bearing ID 1.000 and OD 2.045 these sizes might be out by 1or 2 thousands because of all the heat they have been through here is pics comparing the 2 different headstocks you were correct as usual Tim :) Bill - Original Message - From: Tim Krause To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 12:05 PM Subject: Re: my burnt mill Curt, the larger bearing is a pillow block style bearing ( CSB 205-16 ) but it uses a Legacy laser cut mount instead of the standard pillow block. The tapered bearing (can't find the numbers for the race and bearing at this moment ) also has a custom mount. Bill can you confirm if the tapered bearing is a LM11949/LM11910? The bore id is .750, od 1.781 and the width is .655. There's differences between the spindles on the two machines as well as the height of the headstock units. I'd love to get specific, but I can't find my notes on this and it's really bugging me. I also think you will have clearance issues trying to find a small bearing to work on the standard 900 with the delrin bushings. If you can find bearings to fit the delrin style headstock that would be a very desirable upgrade. -Tim - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:59 AM Subject: my burnt mill I pulled the burnt bearings out of the headstock of my destroyed 900 today here is what they look like if no one has seen the ball bearing bearings before im going to try and buy something similar here and convert the delrin sleeves in the 900 i got over to ball bearings if i can Bill -- -- -- -- -- --
Re: power tool
This is the closest I've seen: http://www.woodworkingshop.com/product/px38536/ http://www.woodworkingshop.com/WebImages/px38536.jpg --
Re: my burnt mill
Bill, If you don't go with OEM bearings, make sure to get the same type of bearing. In the pictures you sent, it looks like the aft roller bearing and race are slightly tapered. This allows the bearing to operate with axial loading...such as the force caused by the tailstock when you clamp in your work. With that said, they also only work one way (typically) so when you install them, make sure the bearing is facing the correct direction. Good Luck!! --
Re: power tool
Good day Chainlink , do you think that this tool would be good to use on a hollow spiral ? l was thinking that it might be better than a sanding mop. l was just looking for some advise. Thank You On Friday, 28 September 2012 06:59:59 UTC-4, Chainlink wrote: This is the closest I've seen: http://www.woodworkingshop.com/product/px38536/ http://www.woodworkingshop.com/WebImages/px38536.jpg --
Re: power tool
I tried a belt sander like that on a hollow spiral once and all it did was cut deep cuts in it i also mounted a electric drill on the mill and had a sanding mop going in it that worked well because you could follow the spiral with the same pitch you cut the spiral with the router is obviously too fast for a sanding mop disaster will happen if that is tryed Bill - Original Message - From: Barry To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:07 AM Subject: Re: power tool Good day Chainlink , do you think that this tool would be good to use on a hollow spiral ? l was thinking that it might be better than a sanding mop. l was just looking for some advise. Thank You On Friday, 28 September 2012 06:59:59 UTC-4, Chainlink wrote: This is the closest I've seen: http://www.woodworkingshop.com/product/px38536/ -- --
Re: power tool
Just curious how large was the sanding mob, the number of grit and did you mont the drill where the router goes. Very much appreciate. Thanks On 2012-09-28, at 6:59 AM, Chainlink dustinyo...@hotmail.com wrote: This is the closest I've seen: http://www.woodworkingshop.com/product/px38536/ -- --
Re: power tool
I did mount the drill where the router goes my router was a triton which has a quick release so i could remove it and replace it in about 5 seconds I mounted the drill in a jig something like this then mounted that with the same quick release to the mill this allowed me to use tools and cutters that could not be ran at router speeds like the sanding mops,fly cutters etc I used several grits the first was around a 100 i think it was then like 180 then 250 they were 6 inch mops there are other ideas out there for sanding with flap sanders and sanding mops http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Pugn2.htm Bill - Original Message - From: Barry Clarke To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 2:22 AM Subject: Re: power tool Just curious how large was the sanding mob, the number of grit and did you mont the drill where the router goes. Very much appreciate. Thanks On 2012-09-28, at 6:59 AM, Chainlink dustinyo...@hotmail.com wrote: This is the closest I've seen: http://www.woodworkingshop.com/product/px38536/ -- -- -- 25148.jpgattachment: 25148.jpg
Re: power tool
Thank You VERY MUCH this info is very helpful. On 2012-09-28, at 8:51 PM, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: I did mount the drill where the router goes my router was a triton which has a quick release so i could remove it and replace it in about 5 seconds I mounted the drill in a jig something like this then mounted that with the same quick release to the mill this allowed me to use tools and cutters that could not be ran at router speeds like the sanding mops,fly cutters etc I used several grits the first was around a 100 i think it was then like 180 then 250 they were 6 inch mops there are other ideas out there for sanding with flap sanders and sanding mops http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Pugn2.htm Bill - Original Message - From: Barry Clarke To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 2:22 AM Subject: Re: power tool Just curious how large was the sanding mob, the number of grit and did you mont the drill where the router goes. Very much appreciate. Thanks On 2012-09-28, at 6:59 AM, Chainlink dustinyo...@hotmail.com wrote: This is the closest I've seen: http://www.woodworkingshop.com/product/px38536/ -- -- -- -- inline: 25148.jpginline: 25148.jpg
