Re: making a tap for the 5/8-4 acme thread

2017-08-10 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
hey mac!...if anyone wants, they can send a request...but I strongly 
suggest sending a photo of their current split nut first, to verify that it 
is the same as I made...and how the split nut mounts into their 
machine...and as far as finding a relatively small piece of the 5/8-4 acme 
rod, I have not done a search for that, but I might guess, if it can't be 
found, then call the company that originally made the rods for legacy, back 
in the day...they are located in westbury, new York...the same place I got 
my 16ft. piece from...google "acme threaded rod westbury ny"...and perhaps 
they can provide a small piece...joe


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Re: making a tap for the 5/8-4 acme thread

2017-08-10 Thread MWF
Hi Joe,Where's the link to the on-line order form for split nuts? I don't need any right now but it sounds like others do.Since a tap for 5/8-4 Acme thread is impossible to find, how hard is it to find that in threaded rod stock - say a foot long?Mac-Original Message-
From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: Aug 10, 2017 5:40 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Cc: curtgeo...@wowway.com
Subject: Re: making a tap for the 5/8-4 acme thread

ok, time to take the gloves off!...LOL!...I applaud all of these suggestions of how to make a split nut...epoxies(a bit too hard and brittle, in my opinion)...melting plastic and forming it around the acme thread?(seems a bit awkward and time consuming to get to the desired mass, then some time to shape it while also keeping the thread parallel and square)...these are all well and good if you are stuck on the island with Gilligan, the skipper, the professor and ginger!...LOL!...there is a reason the split nuts were made with a tap...it is the easiest and fastest way to do it...as mentioned, the tap took 1 1/2 hours to make...but that was a four flute tap...knock it down to three flutes and it is perhaps an hour...and I have seen situations where a one flute tap will work, especially when doing a slippery plastic like UHMW...and the plastic stock could be had for $9.00, which would be enough to make 9 split nuts...and it was purchased sized so that there was no work other than drilling the start hole, running the tap through, than cutting in the center of the newly formed tap...rounding off the two edges took all of 30 seconds...to make one split nut would take about  10 minutes...all these other methods, which I do applaud, do not seem practical...now, the only issue or difficulty anyone might have in making a tap, is getting the 4" to 6" length of the acme rod needed to make the tap...barring that, this turned out to be a no brainer to use a tap to make as many split nuts as I did...just can't see the logic to do it any other way...fire away at this post guys!...joe b.



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Re: making a tap for the 5/8-4 acme thread

2017-08-10 Thread CURTIS GEORGE
Hello Mac 
I've been away for two weeks, and had not checked all my e-mails. I did not 
mean to steel you thunder on this topic. 

But as I said on the first half of this topic. epoxy putty's just might fill 
the gap... (excuse the pun) to make your split nut. (in my way of thinking, if 
it can be drilled and tapped,) I believe it too could be used to make a split 
nut for the Legacy. for the price of the product, either idea should work out 
well for this job. 

I mean even if you owned a tap, you would still have to work the part, after 
being tapped, to make it usable for the machine. 

More latter. 
C.A.G. 

- Original Message -

From: "MWF"  
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 11:17:03 AM 
Subject: Re: making a tap for the 5/8-4 acme thread 

Hi Curtis (and all others), 

The HDPE route is what I suggested a week ago. And as for the cut-offs and 
shavings - save them and add them into the next batch you melt. The ultimate in 
a "recyclable product"! We can't really do that with our wood. 

By the way, if you want colors (or to make some "swirly" billets, check out 
plastic coffee canisters and other containers in your kitchen. Maxwell House is 
blue and Folgers is red. One of them sell their decaf in green. They are all 
HDPE. Check the bottoms of your plastic containers for the Recycle triangle - 
you are looking for the #2 - which is HDPE. I just checked my wife's laundry 
room - and there are a variety of colors in jugs labeled as being HDPE. So you 
have a wide choice of colors if you choose to make some split nuts (or anything 
else) from HDPE. 

Be aware that Tim points out that HDPE is not a particularly hard (durable?) 
plastic. But I think given the "price", making one this way might be worth the 
try - not to mention kind of fun. You can think of it as "big kids' Play 
Dough". 
And if it doesn't work well, melt it back down and make a Pulley, Pen, or 
Pepper Mill out of it. 
Since they put milk and coffee in it, I'll bet it is "food safe". 

I can't wait to see what "NY Joe" (Biuno) makes using the above. He'll probably 
go to a nearby car wash and get one or more of their 55 gallon drums made from 
HDPE. He'll then impress us, once again, with his wizardry and mastery of 
manufacturing. 

Have a great day everybody! 

Mac 




-Original Message- 
From: Curtis 
Sent: Aug 10, 2017 10:39 AM 
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: making a tap for the 5/8-4 acme thread 

Hello Everyone, Im back! ;-) 

Joe I like your 1x8 tap. I have made one as well, very much like what you show, 
and it too works well. 

But I have another idea to get to the same end. 

How about using an Epoxy puddy to make your half split nut for the Legacy? 

If you wax your acme screw well to epoxy will not stick to your lead screw. 
once the puddy is cured, it can be shaped and taped to fit your machine. I have 
no idea on how long this will last? but it will make a split nut easy enough to 
fit the bill. 

Another idea is to make a mold with a section of your acme screw and melt some 
HDPE old milk jugs. ??? much like what this man dose in this video. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erlZ-FdBB2I=61s 

Gota run now. 
Have a good day. everyone. 
C.A.G. 









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Re: Vent cover

2017-08-10 Thread Richard Ellis
Hi Dexter
Rare earth magnets come in handy for all sorts of jobs, a couple of screws 
washers depending on the place it's going to.
A nice job on the vent cover looks good
Regards
Richard

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 2:06:59 PM UTC+1, Dexter Bland wrote:
>
> I like the idea of the v-grove bit and it is not too late to do that. I'll 
> ask the homeowner about how to hold the cover on. However attached, 
> it needs to be removable.
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:46:05 PM UTC-5, Va Oak wrote:
>
>> Dexter,
>>
>> Very well done.  GREAT job.  Thanks for sharing.
>>
>> If you make another, give thought to flipping the board over and running 
>> a 60 degree V-groove bit down the centerline of each slot/vent opening.  
>> That will allow for a bit better airflow through the slots and reduce 
>> backpressure in the ducting. 
>>
>> How are you securing it over the opening in the toe kick board?  Rather 
>> than marring your beautiful work with screws, try either 3M Command Strips 
>> (pick one with only a few pounds of pull) or a strip of  "hook & loop" 
>> (Velcro®) at each end.
>>
>> Just my 2 cent's worth.
>>
>>
>>

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Re: Rotary Table Height

2017-08-10 Thread Richard Ellis
Tim The Rotary table is 13 1/2 " dia. The brackets that fix to the top and 
bottom rails are the same size and shape as the small table brackets.
I do think it will fit my Woodchuck , just need to make some extra 
braclets, if I did fit it the depth of plunge would be much more when 
routing out goblets or such.
Richard


On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 5:00:10 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> Legacy never sold a rotary table for Revo is BS unless the item shown in 
> their instructions is non-produced.  It was smaller than the 
> 900/1200/1800/1000 machines.  Richard, can you photograph your rotary table?
>
> Sent from BlueMail  
> On Aug 9, 2017, at 5:05 AM, Bawdsey64  
> wrote:
>>
>> ​Hi Richard
>>
>> Don't blame Legacy, they never sold a rotary table for the REVO. That is 
>> fact confirmed by the Big Dog himself earlier today when I spoke to him. 
>> That Rotary Table was designed for 900, 1200 etc.
>>
>> Regards
>> Roger
>>
>>
>> Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 
>>
>> ​
>>
>>
>> *From:* Richard Ellis
>> *Received:* 09/08/2017 12:08:48 +01:00
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
>> Bill
>> When using the rotary table for the very first time, the handle came 
>> loose, it just did not rotate the table, it seemed as if it was only half 
>> on. so tried to move it nearer to the table-it would not.
>> Tried to remove it to find out the problem, it was quite difficult to get 
>> off owing to the burs on the round shaft. Why no flat for the grub screw to 
>> clamp on.?
>> Next---, went to fit the Universal joint to the spindle drive. did not go 
>> on far enough-- the round part of the drive had score marks because 
>> of the fact that the recess in the Uni joint was not deep enough.I then 
>> checked the main rod of the Uni joint. Have Legacy never heard of a milling 
>> machine and the fact that one should not grub screw to round shafts.
>> As you say it is a great little machine but it seems I am spending far 
>> too much putting Legacy's shoddy workmanship to rights.
>> It seems to me over the years they are in too much of a hurry to bring 
>> out a new model, instead of making the first one properly.
>> Hence feeling a bit peed off at the moment.
>> Richard 
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 11:45:10 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>>>
>>> Sell the revo what on earth for a great little mill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 August 2017 8:19 PM
>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>> *Cc:* rchrd@gmail.com; legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Rotary Table Height
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>> I did not want to alter the Revo, as Martin was promised it back if I 
>>> decided to sell it.
>>>
>>> Planing MDF is not a healthy thing to do unless well ventilated. I have 
>>> been Routing a lot of Plywood and it upset me rather badly, a sore place on 
>>> my face and a retching session, have just come back from the Doctor. Even 
>>> though I was wearing a mask the air was polluted for a long long time
>>>
>>> Am now thinking of selling the Revo and all the bits that came with it. 
>>> as Martin does not now want it back..
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 5:24:57 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
>>>
>>> ​Hi  Richard
>>>
>>> Why not plane the board that is on the rotary table down to your 
>>> required thickness?
>>>
>>> Just a suggestion.
>>>
>>> Roger & Out!
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 
>>>
>>> ​
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* Richard Ellis
>>>
>>> *Received:* 06/08/2017 17:02:42 +01:00
>>>
>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>>
>>> Today I fitted my Rotary Table to the Revo. It does not seem to have 
>>> much height for hollowing out bowls  only 21/4 "--- The other thing I 
>>> have found ,the waste board, it's 3/4 " thick and appears to have been 
>>> glued on. I can not see any woodscrews  holding it,,. Is that normal ?
>>>
>>> If I put a thinner waste board I could gain another half inch.
>>>
>>> Is there another way of lowering the table ?
>>>
>>> Cheers 
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
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Re: making a tap for the 5/8-4 acme thread

2017-08-10 Thread MWF
Hi Curtis (and all others),The HDPE route is what I suggested a week ago.  And as for the cut-offs and shavings - save them and add them into the next batch you melt.  The ultimate in a "recyclable product"!  We can't really do that with our wood.By the way, if you want colors (or to make some "swirly" billets, check out plastic coffee canisters and other containers in your kitchen.  Maxwell House is blue and Folgers is red.  One of them sell their decaf in green.  They are all HDPE.  Check the bottoms of your plastic containers for the Recycle triangle - you are looking for the #2 - which is HDPE.  I just checked my wife's laundry room - and there are a variety of colors in jugs labeled as being HDPE.  So you have a wide choice of colors if you choose to make some split nuts (or anything else) from HDPE.  Be aware that Tim points out that HDPE is not a particularly hard (durable?) plastic.  But I think given the "price", making one this way might be worth the try - not to mention kind of fun. You can think of it as "big kids' Play Dough".  And if it doesn't work well, melt it back down and make a Pulley, Pen, or Pepper Mill out of it.  Since they put milk and coffee in it, I'll bet it is "food safe".I can't wait to see what "NY Joe" (Biuno) makes using the above.  He'll probably go to a nearby car wash and get one or more of their 55 gallon drums made from HDPE.   He'll then impress us, once again, with his wizardry and mastery of manufacturing.Have a great day everybody!Mac-Original Message-
From: Curtis 
Sent: Aug 10, 2017 10:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: making a tap for the 5/8-4 acme thread

Hello Everyone, Im back! ;-)Joe I like your 1x8 tap. I have made one as well, very much like what you show, and it too works well.But I have another idea to get to the same end.How about using an Epoxy puddy  to make your half split nut for the Legacy?If you wax your acme screw well to epoxy will not stick to your lead screw. once the puddy is cured, it can be shaped and taped to fit your machine. I have no idea on how long this will last? but it will make a split nut easy enough to fit the bill. Another idea is to make a mold with a section of your acme screw and melt some  HDPE old milk jugs. ??? much like what this man dose in this video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erlZ-FdBB2I=61s    Gota run now. Have a good day. everyone.C.A.G.






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Re: making a tap for the 5/8-4 acme thread

2017-08-10 Thread Curtis
Hello Everyone, Im back! ;-)

Joe I like your 1x8 tap. I have made one as well, very much like what you 
show, and it too works well.

But I have another idea to get to the same end.

How about using an Epoxy puddy  to make your half split nut for the Legacy?

If you wax your acme screw well to epoxy will not stick to your lead screw. 
once the puddy is cured, it can be shaped and taped to fit your machine. I 
have no idea on how long this will last? but it will make a split nut easy 
enough to fit the bill. 

Another idea is to make a mold with a section of your acme screw and melt 
some 
 HDPE old milk jugs. ??? much like what this man dose in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erlZ-FdBB2I=61s

Gota run now. 
Have a good day. everyone.
C.A.G.



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Re: Vent cover

2017-08-10 Thread Dexter Bland
I like the idea of the v-grove bit and it is not too late to do that. I'll 
ask the homeowner about how to hold the cover on. However attached, 
it needs to be removable.
Thanks for the suggestions.

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:46:05 PM UTC-5, Va Oak wrote:

> Dexter,
>
> Very well done.  GREAT job.  Thanks for sharing.
>
> If you make another, give thought to flipping the board over and running a 
> 60 degree V-groove bit down the centerline of each slot/vent opening.  That 
> will allow for a bit better airflow through the slots and reduce 
> backpressure in the ducting. 
>
> How are you securing it over the opening in the toe kick board?  Rather 
> than marring your beautiful work with screws, try either 3M Command Strips 
> (pick one with only a few pounds of pull) or a strip of  "hook & loop" 
> (Velcro®) at each end.
>
> Just my 2 cent's worth.
>
>
>

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Re: Rotary Table Height

2017-08-10 Thread Richard Ellis
Roger
We are not disputing facts, I was moaning about the lack of flats for the 
grub screws to lock to. It is in my opinion just a simple thing to do on a 
milling machine--- at no great cost, after all it is the little 
details that count, i:e after sales back up and just answering queries 
The Woodchuck that I have had the worst limit switches that I have ever 
seen, other than that a great machine.
The Revo is also a great machine and it just got me going when I found the 
lack of flats.
How many Revo's are there in the U.K. and as I have asked questions as to 
how many others have Legacy's on other wood working forums, only one reply, 
and he does not use it. 
Hence if I do put miy Revo  up for sale I just can't see the queue waiting 
to buy it.
I may be wrongI usually am

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 11:17:36 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
>
> ​Hi Richard
>
> Engineering standards vary around the world, FACT!
>
>
> I have found very few American engineers/companies using Lock Washers when 
> compared to how we do it in UK. When I was running a production line 
> building Small Boat Radar Systems for Raytheon in the UK did I complain 
> about lack of washers given the application environment. No I just bought 
> in some spring washers. When I ran the production line, again for Raytheon, 
> building power supplies for the Customs Computer System at London Airport 
> we found differences in engineering standards etc. Did we bitch and moan, 
> no just the stiff British upper lip and we got on with it and did it our 
> way.
>
>
> I will defend Legacy because they came up with the original machine idea, 
> developed it over the years and sold plenty of them to lots of happy 
> woodworkers. But in life some people think they can improve other peoples 
> designs, I have no problem with that but someone has to come up with the 
> original ideas and as we all know that is the hard part.   We have seen in 
> this group plenty of modifications that have improved on the original 
> design.  That is evolution.
>
>
> By the way I am not claiming that the Legacy machine was the original 
> concept of this type of machine because the Sears Router Lathe uses similar 
> principals and sold well I believe in the USA.  It was sold in UK by Trend. 
> Strangely enough although Trend sold a lot over here most of them were 
> bought, played with for a couple of times and then put up on the shelf in 
> the shed and forgotten and this I know for a fact having had it confirmed 
> by Trend.  I do not believe that has been the case with Legacy machines and 
> is probably the reason they retain their selling price.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Roger
>
>  
>
>
> Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 
>
> ​
>
>
> *From:* Richard Ellis
> *Received:* 09/08/2017 13:20:36 +01:00
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
> *CC:* rchrd@gmail.com , legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Roger 
> *I do blame legacy *whatever they sold it for to fit, is no excuse for 
> *extremely 
> bad engineering.*.I am just a lowly person with no degrees or 
> scholarships, but I do know a little about machines lathes saws etc.etc. 
>  having made a living from them.
> I know everything  is made to a price, and for what they charge for the 
> rotary table it should have been made better -just a simple thing to 
> mill flats onto spindles
> Richard
>
> On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 1:05:06 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
>>
>> ​Hi Richard
>>
>> Don't blame Legacy, they never sold a rotary table for the REVO. That is 
>> fact confirmed by the Big Dog himself earlier today when I spoke to him. 
>> That Rotary Table was designed for 900, 1200 etc.
>>
>> Regards
>> Roger
>>
>>
>> Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 
>>
>> ​
>>
>>
>> *From:* Richard Ellis
>> *Received:* 09/08/2017 12:08:48 +01:00
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
>> Bill
>> When using the rotary table for the very first time, the handle came 
>> loose, it just did not rotate the table, it seemed as if it was only half 
>> on. so tried to move it nearer to the table-it would not.
>> Tried to remove it to find out the problem, it was quite difficult to get 
>> off owing to the burs on the round shaft. Why no flat for the grub screw to 
>> clamp on.?
>> Next---, went to fit the Universal joint to the spindle drive. did not go 
>> on far enough-- the round part of the drive had score marks because 
>> of the fact that the recess in the Uni joint was not deep enough.I then 
>> checked the main rod of the Uni joint. Have Legacy never heard of a milling 
>> machine and the fact that one should not grub screw to round shafts.
>> As you say it is a great little machine but it seems I am spending far 
>> too much putting Legacy's shoddy workmanship to rights.
>> It seems to me over the years they are in too much of a hurry to bring 
>> out a new model, instead of making the first one properly.
>> Hence feeling a bit peed off at the moment.
>> 

RE: Rotary Table Height

2017-08-10 Thread Bill Bulkeley
The rotary table was online to buy too from legacy here is a link to it on the 
wayback machine sight

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20061026093341/http://legacywoodworking.com/products.cfm?product=117
 

 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2017 4:53 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: Rotary Table Height

 

Bill

I assume that Roger sold the Revo that I have in the first place and that is 
where the rotary table came from.

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 7:44:14 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:

I copied this from the revo manual and I thought it was also on the legacy 
sight years ago when I bought my revo but I might be wrong but I did buy my 
first one from them through roger

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf Of 
Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2017 1:58 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Cc: Richard Ellis; Legacy Ornamental Mills; Bawdsey 64
Subject: Re: Rotary Table Height

 

Legacy never sold a rotary table for Revo is BS unless the item shown in their 
instructions is non-produced.  It was smaller than the 900/1200/1800/1000 
machines.  Richard, can you photograph your rotary table?

Sent from BlueMail   

On Aug 9, 2017, at 5:05 AM, Bawdsey64  wrote:

​Hi Richard

Don't blame Legacy, they never sold a rotary table for the REVO. That is fact 
confirmed by the Big Dog himself earlier today when I spoke to him. That Rotary 
Table was designed for 900, 1200 etc.

Regards
Roger


Sent from   TouchMail for Windows 10

​

 

From: Richard Ellis

Received: 09/08/2017 12:08:48 +01:00

To: Legacy Ornamental Mills

Bill

When using the rotary table for the very first time, the handle came loose, it 
just did not rotate the table, it seemed as if it was only half on. so tried to 
move it nearer to the table-it would not.

Tried to remove it to find out the problem, it was quite difficult to get off 
owing to the burs on the round shaft. Why no flat for the grub screw to clamp 
on.?

Next---, went to fit the Universal joint to the spindle drive. did not go on 
far enough-- the round part of the drive had score marks because of the 
fact that the recess in the Uni joint was not deep enough.I then checked the 
main rod of the Uni joint. Have Legacy never heard of a milling machine and the 
fact that one should not grub screw to round shafts.

As you say it is a great little machine but it seems I am spending far too much 
putting Legacy's shoddy workmanship to rights.

It seems to me over the years they are in too much of a hurry to bring out a 
new model, instead of making the first one properly.

Hence feeling a bit peed off at the moment.

Richard 

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 11:45:10 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:

Sell the revo what on earth for a great little mill

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017 8:19 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Cc: rchrd@gmail.com; legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Rotary Table Height

 

Roger

I did not want to alter the Revo, as Martin was promised it back if I decided 
to sell it.

Planing MDF is not a healthy thing to do unless well ventilated. I have been 
Routing a lot of Plywood and it upset me rather badly, a sore place on my face 
and a retching session, have just come back from the Doctor. Even though I was 
wearing a mask the air was polluted for a long long time

Am now thinking of selling the Revo and all the bits that came with it. as 
Martin does not now want it back..

Richard

On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 5:24:57 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:

​Hi  Richard

Why not plane the board that is on the rotary table down to your required 
thickness?

Just a suggestion.

Roger & Out!


Sent from   TouchMail for Windows 10

​

 

From: Richard Ellis

Received: 06/08/2017 17:02:42 +01:00

To: Legacy Ornamental Mills

Today I fitted my Rotary Table to the Revo. It does not seem to have much 
height for hollowing out bowls  only 21/4 "--- The other thing I have found 
,the waste board, it's 3/4 " thick and appears to have been glued on. I can not 
see any woodscrews  holding it,,. Is that normal ?

If I put a thinner waste board I could gain another half inch.

Is there another way of lowering the table ?

Cheers 

Richard

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Re: Rotary Table Height

2017-08-10 Thread Richard Ellis
Bill
I assume that Roger sold the Revo that I have in the first place and that 
is where the rotary table came from.

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 7:44:14 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> I copied this from the revo manual and I thought it was also on the legacy 
> sight years ago when I bought my revo but I might be wrong but I did buy my 
> first one from them through roger
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Tim 
> Krause
> *Sent:* Thursday, 10 August 2017 1:58 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
> *Cc:* Richard Ellis; Legacy Ornamental Mills; Bawdsey 64
> *Subject:* Re: Rotary Table Height
>
>  
>
> Legacy never sold a rotary table for Revo is BS unless the item shown in 
> their instructions is non-produced.  It was smaller than the 
> 900/1200/1800/1000 machines.  Richard, can you photograph your rotary table?
>
> Sent from BlueMail  
>
> On Aug 9, 2017, at 5:05 AM, Bawdsey64  
> wrote:
>
> ​Hi Richard
>
> Don't blame Legacy, they never sold a rotary table for the REVO. That is 
> fact confirmed by the Big Dog himself earlier today when I spoke to him. 
> That Rotary Table was designed for 900, 1200 etc.
>
> Regards
> Roger
>
>
> Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 
>
> ​
>
>  
>
> *From:* Richard Ellis
>
> *Received:* 09/08/2017 12:08:48 +01:00
>
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
>
> Bill
>
> When using the rotary table for the very first time, the handle came 
> loose, it just did not rotate the table, it seemed as if it was only half 
> on. so tried to move it nearer to the table-it would not.
>
> Tried to remove it to find out the problem, it was quite difficult to get 
> off owing to the burs on the round shaft. Why no flat for the grub screw to 
> clamp on.?
>
> Next---, went to fit the Universal joint to the spindle drive. did not go 
> on far enough-- the round part of the drive had score marks because 
> of the fact that the recess in the Uni joint was not deep enough.I then 
> checked the main rod of the Uni joint. Have Legacy never heard of a milling 
> machine and the fact that one should not grub screw to round shafts.
>
> As you say it is a great little machine but it seems I am spending far too 
> much putting Legacy's shoddy workmanship to rights.
>
> It seems to me over the years they are in too much of a hurry to bring out 
> a new model, instead of making the first one properly.
>
> Hence feeling a bit peed off at the moment.
>
> Richard 
>
> On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 11:45:10 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> Sell the revo what on earth for a great little mill
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 August 2017 8:19 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
> *Cc:* rchrd@gmail.com; legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Rotary Table Height
>
>  
>
> Roger
>
> I did not want to alter the Revo, as Martin was promised it back if I 
> decided to sell it.
>
> Planing MDF is not a healthy thing to do unless well ventilated. I have 
> been Routing a lot of Plywood and it upset me rather badly, a sore place on 
> my face and a retching session, have just come back from the Doctor. Even 
> though I was wearing a mask the air was polluted for a long long time
>
> Am now thinking of selling the Revo and all the bits that came with it. as 
> Martin does not now want it back..
>
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 5:24:57 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
>
> ​Hi  Richard
>
> Why not plane the board that is on the rotary table down to your required 
> thickness?
>
> Just a suggestion.
>
> Roger & Out!
>
>
> Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 
>
> ​
>
>  
>
> *From:* Richard Ellis
>
> *Received:* 06/08/2017 17:02:42 +01:00
>
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
>
> Today I fitted my Rotary Table to the Revo. It does not seem to have much 
> height for hollowing out bowls  only 21/4 "--- The other thing I have 
> found ,the waste board, it's 3/4 " thick and appears to have been glued on. 
> I can not see any woodscrews  holding it,,. Is that normal ?
>
> If I put a thinner waste board I could gain another half inch.
>
> Is there another way of lowering the table ?
>
> Cheers 
>
> Richard
>
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RE: Rotary Table Height

2017-08-10 Thread Bill Bulkeley
I copied this from the revo manual and I thought it was also on the legacy 
sight years ago when I bought my revo but I might be wrong but I did buy my 
first one from them through roger

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2017 1:58 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Cc: Richard Ellis; Legacy Ornamental Mills; Bawdsey 64
Subject: Re: Rotary Table Height

 

Legacy never sold a rotary table for Revo is BS unless the item shown in their 
instructions is non-produced.  It was smaller than the 900/1200/1800/1000 
machines.  Richard, can you photograph your rotary table?

Sent from BlueMail   

On Aug 9, 2017, at 5:05 AM, Bawdsey64  wrote:

​Hi Richard

Don't blame Legacy, they never sold a rotary table for the REVO. That is fact 
confirmed by the Big Dog himself earlier today when I spoke to him. That Rotary 
Table was designed for 900, 1200 etc.

Regards
Roger


Sent from   TouchMail for Windows 10

​

 

From: Richard Ellis

Received: 09/08/2017 12:08:48 +01:00

To: Legacy Ornamental Mills

Bill

When using the rotary table for the very first time, the handle came loose, it 
just did not rotate the table, it seemed as if it was only half on. so tried to 
move it nearer to the table-it would not.

Tried to remove it to find out the problem, it was quite difficult to get off 
owing to the burs on the round shaft. Why no flat for the grub screw to clamp 
on.?

Next---, went to fit the Universal joint to the spindle drive. did not go on 
far enough-- the round part of the drive had score marks because of the 
fact that the recess in the Uni joint was not deep enough.I then checked the 
main rod of the Uni joint. Have Legacy never heard of a milling machine and the 
fact that one should not grub screw to round shafts.

As you say it is a great little machine but it seems I am spending far too much 
putting Legacy's shoddy workmanship to rights.

It seems to me over the years they are in too much of a hurry to bring out a 
new model, instead of making the first one properly.

Hence feeling a bit peed off at the moment.

Richard 

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 11:45:10 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:

Sell the revo what on earth for a great little mill

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017 8:19 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Cc: rchrd@gmail.com; legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Rotary Table Height

 

Roger

I did not want to alter the Revo, as Martin was promised it back if I decided 
to sell it.

Planing MDF is not a healthy thing to do unless well ventilated. I have been 
Routing a lot of Plywood and it upset me rather badly, a sore place on my face 
and a retching session, have just come back from the Doctor. Even though I was 
wearing a mask the air was polluted for a long long time

Am now thinking of selling the Revo and all the bits that came with it. as 
Martin does not now want it back..

Richard

On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 5:24:57 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:

​Hi  Richard

Why not plane the board that is on the rotary table down to your required 
thickness?

Just a suggestion.

Roger & Out!


Sent from   TouchMail for Windows 10

​

 

From: Richard Ellis

Received: 06/08/2017 17:02:42 +01:00

To: Legacy Ornamental Mills

Today I fitted my Rotary Table to the Revo. It does not seem to have much 
height for hollowing out bowls  only 21/4 "--- The other thing I have found 
,the waste board, it's 3/4 " thick and appears to have been glued on. I can not 
see any woodscrews  holding it,,. Is that normal ?

If I put a thinner waste board I could gain another half inch.

Is there another way of lowering the table ?

Cheers 

Richard

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