Roger We are not disputing facts, I was moaning about the lack of flats for the grub screws to lock to. It is in my opinion just a simple thing to do on a milling machine----------- at no great cost, after all it is the little details that count, i:e after sales back up and just answering queries The Woodchuck that I have had the worst limit switches that I have ever seen, other than that a great machine. The Revo is also a great machine and it just got me going when I found the lack of flats. How many Revo's are there in the U.K. and as I have asked questions as to how many others have Legacy's on other wood working forums, only one reply, and he does not use it. Hence if I do put miy Revo up for sale I just can't see the queue waiting to buy it. I may be wrong----I usually am
On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 11:17:36 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote: > > Hi Richard > > Engineering standards vary around the world, FACT! > > > I have found very few American engineers/companies using Lock Washers when > compared to how we do it in UK. When I was running a production line > building Small Boat Radar Systems for Raytheon in the UK did I complain > about lack of washers given the application environment. No I just bought > in some spring washers. When I ran the production line, again for Raytheon, > building power supplies for the Customs Computer System at London Airport > we found differences in engineering standards etc. Did we bitch and moan, > no just the stiff British upper lip and we got on with it and did it our > way. > > > I will defend Legacy because they came up with the original machine idea, > developed it over the years and sold plenty of them to lots of happy > woodworkers. But in life some people think they can improve other peoples > designs, I have no problem with that but someone has to come up with the > original ideas and as we all know that is the hard part. We have seen in > this group plenty of modifications that have improved on the original > design. That is evolution. > > > By the way I am not claiming that the Legacy machine was the original > concept of this type of machine because the Sears Router Lathe uses similar > principals and sold well I believe in the USA. It was sold in UK by Trend. > Strangely enough although Trend sold a lot over here most of them were > bought, played with for a couple of times and then put up on the shelf in > the shed and forgotten and this I know for a fact having had it confirmed > by Trend. I do not believe that has been the case with Legacy machines and > is probably the reason they retain their selling price. > > > Cheers > > Roger > > > > > Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 <http://bit.ly/1PH8eIw> > > > > > *From:* Richard Ellis > *Received:* 09/08/2017 13:20:36 +01:00 > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *CC:* rchrd....@gmail.com <javascript:>, legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:> > Roger > *I do blame legacy *whatever they sold it for to fit, is no excuse for > *extremely > bad engineering.*.I am just a lowly person with no degrees or > scholarships, but I do know a little about machines lathes saws etc.etc. > having made a living from them. > I know everything is made to a price, and for what they charge for the > rotary table it should have been made better -----just a simple thing to > mill flats onto spindles > Richard > > On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 1:05:06 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote: >> >> Hi Richard >> >> Don't blame Legacy, they never sold a rotary table for the REVO. That is >> fact confirmed by the Big Dog himself earlier today when I spoke to him. >> That Rotary Table was designed for 900, 1200 etc. >> >> Regards >> Roger >> >> >> Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 <http://bit.ly/1PH8eIw> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Richard Ellis >> *Received:* 09/08/2017 12:08:48 +01:00 >> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills >> Bill >> When using the rotary table for the very first time, the handle came >> loose, it just did not rotate the table, it seemed as if it was only half >> on. so tried to move it nearer to the table---------it would not. >> Tried to remove it to find out the problem, it was quite difficult to get >> off owing to the burs on the round shaft. Why no flat for the grub screw to >> clamp on.????? >> Next---, went to fit the Universal joint to the spindle drive. did not go >> on far enough---------- the round part of the drive had score marks because >> of the fact that the recess in the Uni joint was not deep enough.I then >> checked the main rod of the Uni joint. Have Legacy never heard of a milling >> machine and the fact that one should not grub screw to round shafts. >> As you say it is a great little machine but it seems I am spending far >> too much putting Legacy's shoddy workmanship to rights. >> It seems to me over the years they are in too much of a hurry to bring >> out a new model, instead of making the first one properly. >> Hence feeling a bit peed off at the moment. >> Richard >> >> On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 11:45:10 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote: >>> >>> Sell the revo what on earth for a great little mill >>> >>> >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto: >>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 August 2017 8:19 PM >>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills >>> *Cc:* rchrd....@gmail.com; legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >>> *Subject:* Re: Rotary Table Height >>> >>> >>> >>> Roger >>> >>> I did not want to alter the Revo, as Martin was promised it back if I >>> decided to sell it. >>> >>> Planing MDF is not a healthy thing to do unless well ventilated. I have >>> been Routing a lot of Plywood and it upset me rather badly, a sore place on >>> my face and a retching session, have just come back from the Doctor. Even >>> though I was wearing a mask the air was polluted for a long long time >>> >>> Am now thinking of selling the Revo and all the bits that came with it. >>> as Martin does not now want it back.. >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 5:24:57 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote: >>> >>> Hi Richard >>> >>> Why not plane the board that is on the rotary table down to your >>> required thickness? >>> >>> Just a suggestion. >>> >>> Roger & Out! >>> >>> >>> Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 <http://bit.ly/1PH8eIw> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Richard Ellis >>> >>> *Received:* 06/08/2017 17:02:42 +01:00 >>> >>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills >>> >>> Today I fitted my Rotary Table to the Revo. It does not seem to have >>> much height for hollowing out bowls ----only 21/4 "--- The other thing I >>> have found ,the waste board, it's 3/4 " thick and appears to have been >>> glued on. I can not see any woodscrews holding it,,. 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