Re: New bone turning jig

2020-12-26 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Thanks Mike.
I went out today and bought the brass already. ;-) 
Yes I knew  better. but I was just hoping that the wax was enough. Live and 
Learn. Legacy Stile.   ;-p
C.A.G.
On Saturday, December 26, 2020, 11:30:54 PM EST, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
 wrote:  
 
  
Next time buy a thin brass tubing and use it like making a pen.  Still use the 
bolt for the clamping but now the brass will keep the glue off the bolt and add 
strength to the project.  Like 
thishttps://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Length-Thickness-Seamless-Straight/dp/B07Z95TXTD
  
 
 
Mike OK
 
 On 12/26/2020 10:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
  
  Hello everyone. 
  I came up with a new idea for my  bone turning. I used an 1/4" x4" screw as 
my center to hold the bone together while drying. 
  ONE small problem happened. (I know you guys can guess what went wrong.) Even 
though I waxed the screw before I set the Epoxy glue.  the screw is firmly 
stuck inside my bone blank. ;-( 
  So since I can not remove the screw, I decided to  use the screw in as my 
mounting for the Legacy.  
 I cut an alum. square and tapped the center 1/4-20 (so I could screw the bone 
onto the alum.) and then I added a Legacy hub to the alum. so I could mount it 
onto my Legacy. 
  I am rather pleased with this jig. so far. I was able to turn the bone and it 
open up's some very neat new idea on what I can make on both the Legacy and 
Shop Smith. 
  Now this is not a new idea for me, I already have made jigs to hole 5/16" and 
3/8" shafts so I could make wine stoppers and other utensils. on my lathe. but 
for some reason, I never thought of making a 1/4" one. 
  As far as the bone turning goes. I'm not sure if I should rope it or not? But 
for the time being, I think I will leave it the way it is. 
  Here are some photo's of my jig and turning. 
  Please let me know what you think. 
  C.A.G. 
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RE: New bone turning jig

2020-12-26 Thread bulkeley
Fair call mike good idea same as when doing pens

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 3:31 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New bone turning jig

 

Next time buy a thin brass tubing and use it like making a pen.  Still use the 
bolt for the clamping but now the brass will keep the glue off the bolt and add 
strength to the project.  Like this 
https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Length-Thickness-Seamless-Straight/dp/B07Z95TXTD  

Mike OK

On 12/26/2020 10:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Hello everyone.

 

I came up with a new idea for my  bone turning.

I used an 1/4" x4" screw as my center to hold the bone together while drying.

 

ONE small problem happened. (I know you guys can guess what went wrong.) Even 
though I waxed the screw before I set the Epoxy glue.  the screw is firmly 
stuck inside my bone blank. ;-(

 

So since I can not remove the screw, I decided to  use the screw in as my 
mounting for the Legacy.  
I cut an alum. square and tapped the center 1/4-20 (so I could screw the bone 
onto the alum.) and then I added a Legacy hub to the alum. so I could mount it 
onto my Legacy.

 

I am rather pleased with this jig. so far. I was able to turn the bone and it 
open up's some very neat new idea on what I can make on both the Legacy and 
Shop Smith.

 

Now this is not a new idea for me, I already have made jigs to hole 5/16" and 
3/8" shafts so I could make wine stoppers and other utensils. on my lathe. but 
for some reason, I never thought of making a 1/4" one.

 

As far as the bone turning goes. I'm not sure if I should rope it or not? But 
for the time being, I think I will leave it the way it is.

 

Here are some photo's of my jig and turning.

 

Please let me know what you think.

 

C.A.G.

 

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RE: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

2020-12-26 Thread bulkeley
I used just cheap crappy double sided tape and covered the whole bottom It 
didn’t move if it did I was going to add a few spots of hot glue as well but I 
didn’t need to it held ok and the cuts are not very heavy.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 3:19 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Yea double sided tape. Some expensive stuff. I'm going to pick up some carpet 
tape tomorrow after Church.

Be a lot cheaper then the stuff I have for my name plates we laser. So more 
commercial and much over kill. 

I'm sure I will mess around tomorrow too and I will try a smaller bit. I just 
grabbed some of the details off of

one of my VCR tapes from LOM I think it was on projects 6-10 video. Between 
watching your process and 

grabbing sizes and steps I tried that bit they stated on there. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 10:12 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I totally understand rosettes do get you in lol I never got past using the 1” 
rope bit  and of corse the planning bit so so so many combinations you can make 
with rosettes lol I assume your using double sided tape to hold them during 
milling.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 2:50 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Yes I was using the 1 1/2 in rope moulding bit.

My bit is slightly dull and I was enjoying it so much I did not want to 

sharpen it. I was using cedar to so extremely soft wood and dull bit. not a 
great combo. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 7:43 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I like this one looks great accept for the tear out slower rpm might help that

Can you tell me what router bits you used

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 9:22 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Yea jus did another one

 

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 4:08 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Well looks like your well on the way to rosette making fun isn’t it 😉

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 8:45 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:35 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

yea was trying to remember the name with out looking it up. I know the name " 
Chips Fly" sold the 

gadget lol.  I'm understanding the concept. 

Lots of good idea's out there. 

thanks Mac


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 3:28 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Tim,

The "device" I think that is being pointed out to you is one called a "Wood 
Rat".  You will find numerous mentions of it on the internet; add "routers" 
and/or "tools" to the search to increase accuracy of hits.

Merry Christmas to you and ALL the other Group members!

Mac


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-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Dec 20, 2020 3:47 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge 

Bill you have to help me a bit on this site? I opened it but can;t see what you 
might be referring?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


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On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Sort of like this guy has done? 
https://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/woodworking-crafts/kit-tools/ancillary-equipment/jig-systems/legacy-revo/

 

Bill


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Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 10:23 PM  wrote:

> Mac
>
> Funny we do that with an American in a truck to check for quick sand
> depths in the deserts of the outback we send one in after the other till
> they stop sinking then we know its safe to dive over the top lol😊
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Sunday, 27 December 2020 3:03 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
> I get an Aussie to drive his truck out on it - and if the truck falls
> thru, I  wait two more weeks had have him try it again.  I have to wait two
> weeks because that's how long it takes him to get the truck out and
> restored back to "operating condition".   And I keep doing that until his
> truck stays put.
>
> And, if all else fails, I get Tim Z to tell be when it's "safe". (See his
> input.)
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Dec 26, 2020 2:55 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
>
> Very interesting mac one question how do you know the ice is safe (thick
> enough) to drive on
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:14 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
>
>
> I have a friend that has the steel frame (w/axle & wheels) for the
> specially built trailer they use - on which to construct an Ice Fishing
> "shed".
>
> Two things make it very UNIQUE:
>
> 1.  The axle & wheel assembly is hydraulically lowered to drive it on the
> highway.  When you get the trailer/shed unit out onto your ice fishing
> spot, you release the hydraulic pressure and the axle & wheels retract up
> into the trailer frame - effectively lowering the steel trailer frame down
> onto the ice.
>
> 2.  The steel frame is designed such that there is one fair sized
> rectangular area that has no steel frame or reinforcing members in it.
> That area is about 36" by ~60".   Also, the tongue on these trailers is
> either removable or foldable - to get it out of the way.
>
>
>
> Once the "Ice Fishing House" is lowered onto the ice and you get your
> heater going, you bore your holes in the ice within that open, unobstructed
> rectangle.  After you get the opening in the ice, it takes you skimming and
> occasionally chipping the ice that tries to grow back in the hole.  Of
> course if you go home for the night, you'll have to drill & chip all over
> again the next day.
>
>
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Dec 26, 2020 1:42 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
>
>
> I know nothing of ice fishing for obvious reasons . so how do you tell the
> ice is thick enough to walk or drive on to go ice fishing
>
> And once you got the hole cut how do you stop it refreezing over while
> your fishing basically please give me an ice fishing lesson 101
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 26 December 2020 3:17 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
>
>
> Hey Mac
>
> Last email for the night. I am almost ready for ice fishing yes indeed. I
> gave my one Son Ice fishing equipment for Christmas and that
>
> could only mean one thing right?  You guessed it he wants me to take him.
> Better let the ice get a bit thicker though.
>
> Have a blessed night Mac. Glad you got a good sense of humour.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 9:55 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> LoL!
>
> Ha! - they eventually let us "commoners" own them.  After WWII, the GI's
> fell in love with them.
>
> The first one brought to the US (as the "story"/history goes) was actually
> brought by Helen Keller.  She was in Japan on a cultural exchange
> mission(?).  The Japanese Minister of Culture(?) gave her one as a
> departure gift (NOT a "seeing eye dog" kind of gift.).  It was sort of akin
> to one of our national officials giving a Bald Eagle to a departing
> dignitary.  The Akita is still HIGHLY regarded in Japan - for good reason
> as Ron Taylor mentioned.
>
> Here's wishing all ya'll a Wonderful fun-filled Weekend!  (Go ice fishing
> Tim Z. - and take the cats with you.  Make them catfish!  LoL!)
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Origin

RE: New bone turning jig

2020-12-26 Thread bulkeley
Can you clamp the pieces together with a dowel to line them up then redrill the 
hole to save gluing the 1/4x4 thread

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 3:08 PM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: New bone turning jig

 

Hello everyone.

 

I came up with a new idea for my  bone turning.

I used an 1/4" x4" screw as my center to hold the bone together while drying.

 

ONE small problem happened. (I know you guys can guess what went wrong.) Even 
though I waxed the screw before I set the Epoxy glue.  the screw is firmly 
stuck inside my bone blank. ;-(

 

So since I can not remove the screw, I decided to  use the screw in as my 
mounting for the Legacy.  
I cut an alum. square and tapped the center 1/4-20 (so I could screw the bone 
onto the alum.) and then I added a Legacy hub to the alum. so I could mount it 
onto my Legacy.

 

I am rather pleased with this jig. so far. I was able to turn the bone and it 
open up's some very neat new idea on what I can make on both the Legacy and 
Shop Smith.

 

Now this is not a new idea for me, I already have made jigs to hole 5/16" and 
3/8" shafts so I could make wine stoppers and other utensils. on my lathe. but 
for some reason, I never thought of making a 1/4" one.

 

As far as the bone turning goes. I'm not sure if I should rope it or not? But 
for the time being, I think I will leave it the way it is.

 

Here are some photo's of my jig and turning.

 

Please let me know what you think.

 

C.A.G.

 

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Re: New bone turning jig

2020-12-26 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
Next time buy a thin brass tubing and use it like making a pen.  Still 
use the bolt for the clamping but now the brass will keep the glue off 
the bolt and add strength to the project.  Like this 
https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Length-Thickness-Seamless-Straight/dp/B07Z95TXTD 



Mike OK

On 12/26/2020 10:08 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Hello everyone.

I came up with a new idea for my  bone turning.
I used an 1/4" x4" screw as my center to hold the bone together while 
drying.


ONE small problem happened. (I know you guys can guess what went 
wrong.) Even though I waxed the screw before I set the Epoxy glue.  
the screw is firmly stuck inside my bone blank. ;-(


So since I can not remove the screw, I decided to  use the screw in as 
my mounting for the Legacy.
I cut an alum. square and tapped the center 1/4-20 (so I could screw 
the bone onto the alum.) and then I added a Legacy hub to the alum. so 
I could mount it onto my Legacy.


I am rather pleased with this jig. so far. I was able to turn the bone 
and it open up's some very neat new idea on what I can make on both 
the Legacy and Shop Smith.


Now this is not a new idea for me, I already have made jigs to hole 
5/16" and 3/8" shafts so I could make wine stoppers and other 
utensils. on my lathe. but for some reason, I never thought of making 
a 1/4" one.


As far as the bone turning goes. I'm not sure if I should rope it or 
not? But for the time being, I think I will leave it the way it is.


Here are some photo's of my jig and turning.

Please let me know what you think.

C.A.G.

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RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS

2020-12-26 Thread bulkeley
Mac

Funny we do that with an American in a truck to check for quick sand depths in 
the deserts of the outback we send one in after the other till they stop 
sinking then we know its safe to dive over the top lol😊  

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 3:03 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS

 

Bill,

I get an Aussie to drive his truck out on it - and if the truck falls thru, I  
wait two more weeks had have him try it again.  I have to wait two weeks 
because that's how long it takes him to get the truck out and restored back to 
"operating condition".   And I keep doing that until his truck stays put.

And, if all else fails, I get Tim Z to tell be when it's "safe". (See his 
input.)

Mac

  _  

-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au   
Sent: Dec 26, 2020 2:55 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
Subject: RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS 




Very interesting mac one question how do you know the ice is safe (thick 
enough) to drive on

 

Bill


  _  


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:14 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS

 

I have a friend that has the steel frame (w/axle & wheels) for the specially 
built trailer they use - on which to construct an Ice Fishing "shed".

Two things make it very UNIQUE:

1.  The axle & wheel assembly is hydraulically lowered to drive it on the 
highway.  When you get the trailer/shed unit out onto your ice fishing spot, 
you release the hydraulic pressure and the axle & wheels retract up into the 
trailer frame - effectively lowering the steel trailer frame down onto the ice.

2.  The steel frame is designed such that there is one fair sized rectangular 
area that has no steel frame or reinforcing members in it.  That area is about 
36" by ~60".   Also, the tongue on these trailers is either removable or 
foldable - to get it out of the way.

 

Once the "Ice Fishing House" is lowered onto the ice and you get your heater 
going, you bore your holes in the ice within that open, unobstructed rectangle. 
 After you get the opening in the ice, it takes you skimming and occasionally 
chipping the ice that tries to grow back in the hole.  Of course if you go home 
for the night, you'll have to drill & chip all over again the next day.

 

I hope this helps.

Mac


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au   
Sent: Dec 26, 2020 1:42 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
Subject: RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS 





I know nothing of ice fishing for obvious reasons . so how do you tell the ice 
is thick enough to walk or drive on to go ice fishing

And once you got the hole cut how do you stop it refreezing over while your 
fishing basically please give me an ice fishing lesson 101

 

Bill


  _  


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 3:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS

 

Hey Mac 

Last email for the night. I am almost ready for ice fishing yes indeed. I gave 
my one Son Ice fishing equipment for Christmas and that 

could only mean one thing right?  You guessed it he wants me to take him. 
Better let the ice get a bit thicker though. 

Have a blessed night Mac. Glad you got a good sense of humour.  


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


  _  


 

On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 9:55 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

LoL!

Ha! - they eventually let us "commoners" own them.  After WWII, the GI's fell 
in love with them.

The first one brought to the US (as the "story"/history goes) was actually 
brought by Helen Keller.  She was in Japan on a cultural exchange mission(?).  
The Japanese Minister of Culture(?) gave her one as a departure gift (NOT a 
"seeing eye dog" kind of gift.).  It was sort of akin to one of our national 
officials giving a Bald Eagle to a departing dignitary.  The Akita is still 
HIGHLY regarded in Japan - for good reason as Ron Taylor mentioned.

Here's wishing all ya'll a Wonderful fun-filled Weekend!  (Go ice fishing Tim 
Z. - and take the cats with you.  Make them catfish!  LoL!)

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Dec 25, 2020 7:25 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 


Re: New bone turning jig

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Curtis that looks like an extremely good idea. Gets you away from the
head stock
so you can turn or mill worry free. great idea. Sorry about the glue lol.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 10:08 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone.
>
> I came up with a new idea for my  bone turning.
> I used an 1/4" x4" screw as my center to hold the bone together while
> drying.
>
> ONE small problem happened. (I know you guys can guess what went wrong.)
> Even though I waxed the screw before I set the Epoxy glue.  the screw is
> firmly stuck inside my bone blank. ;-(
>
> So since I can not remove the screw, I decided to  use the screw in as my
> mounting for the Legacy.
> I cut an alum. square and tapped the center 1/4-20 (so I could screw the
> bone onto the alum.) and then I added a Legacy hub to the alum. so I could
> mount it onto my Legacy.
>
> I am rather pleased with this jig. so far. I was able to turn the bone and
> it open up's some very neat new idea on what I can make on both the Legacy
> and Shop Smith.
>
> Now this is not a new idea for me, I already have made jigs to hole 5/16"
> and 3/8" shafts so I could make wine stoppers and other utensils. on my
> lathe. but for some reason, I never thought of making a 1/4" one.
>
> As far as the bone turning goes. I'm not sure if I should rope it or not?
> But for the time being, I think I will leave it the way it is.
>
> Here are some photo's of my jig and turning.
>
> Please let me know what you think.
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yea double sided tape. Some expensive stuff. I'm going to pick up some
carpet tape tomorrow after Church.
Be a lot cheaper then the stuff I have for my name plates we laser. So more
commercial and much over kill.
I'm sure I will mess around tomorrow too and I will try a smaller bit. I
just grabbed some of the details off of
one of my VCR tapes from LOM I think it was on projects 6-10 video. Between
watching your process and
grabbing sizes and steps I tried that bit they stated on there.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 10:12 PM  wrote:

> I totally understand rosettes do get you in lol I never got past using the
> 1” rope bit  and of corse the planning bit so so so many combinations you
> can make with rosettes lol I assume your using double sided tape to hold
> them during milling.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, 27 December 2020 2:50 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> Yes I was using the 1 1/2 in rope moulding bit.
>
> My bit is slightly dull and I was enjoying it so much I did not want to
>
> sharpen it. I was using cedar to so extremely soft wood and dull bit. not
> a great combo.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 7:43 PM  wrote:
>
> I like this one looks great accept for the tear out slower rpm might help
> that
>
> Can you tell me what router bits you used
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, 27 December 2020 9:22 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> Yea jus did another one
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 4:08 PM  wrote:
>
> Well looks like your well on the way to rosette making fun isn’t it 😉
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, 27 December 2020 8:45 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:35 PM Tim Ziegler 
> wrote:
>
> yea was trying to remember the name with out looking it up. I know the
> name " Chips Fly" sold the
>
> gadget lol.  I'm understanding the concept.
>
> Lots of good idea's out there.
>
> thanks Mac
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 3:28 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> The "device" I think that is being pointed out to you is one called a
> "Wood Rat".  You will find numerous mentions of it on the internet; add
> "routers" and/or "tools" to the search to increase accuracy of hits.
>
> Merry Christmas to you and ALL the other Group members!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Dec 20, 2020 3:47 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
> Bill you have to help me a bit on this site? I opened it but can;t see
> what you might be referring?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM  wrote:
>
> Sort of like this guy has done?
> https://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/woodworking-crafts/kit-tools/ancillary-equipment/jig-systems/legacy-revo/
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> timjz...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 21 December 2020 4:39 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> Ok new topic here to add to the day.
>
> As you all know what happens when you reach the place your router stops
> when turning, fluting etc it usually burns So.. get in route and
> get out no burn.
>
> I have been working on an idea in my mind to convert my Z access with the
> Non Plunge router PC that several of us have with the threaded adjustable
> up and down
>
> I want to disengage the threading rod and run it similar to a plunge
> router without loo

Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
thanks Bill I will try that on the next ones.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 10:05 PM  wrote:

> Use windows snipping tool and snip the whole pic and save it to the
> desktop it will then be 1meg or less no matter how big the pic is
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, 27 December 2020 2:45 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> yup I was having problems trying to get more then 2 to send even after
> using Curts down sizing method?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 4:46 PM  wrote:
>
> I saw 2 pics one of a rosette and one of a spindle
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, 27 December 2020 8:52 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> yup I re watched the last couple videos again to make sure.
>
> Did my pix come through now of what I did Bill?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 3:45 PM  wrote:
>
> On my rosettes I use the plunge router but you know that if you watched my
> videos
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, 27 December 2020 3:22 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> So today I have chose to do some training on my LOM,
>
> When you make rosettes are you using a plunge router on the red sliding
> base or
>
> the Tall tower type Z access?
>
> I could see the plunge being a super huge benefit as the project VCR tapes
> show only that???
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 3:16 PM  wrote:
>
> I mean the plunge lever on the router, for quick release to stop
> burning.zoom the pics up a bit
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 21 December 2020 7:47 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> Bill you have to help me a bit on this site? I opened it but can;t see
> what you might be referring?
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM  wrote:
>
> Sort of like this guy has done?
> https://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/woodworking-crafts/kit-tools/ancillary-equipment/jig-systems/legacy-revo/
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> timjz...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 21 December 2020 4:39 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> Ok new topic here to add to the day.
>
> As you all know what happens when you reach the place your router stops
> when turning, fluting etc it usually burns So.. get in route and
> get out no burn.
>
> I have been working on an idea in my mind to convert my Z access with the
> Non Plunge router PC that several of us have with the threaded adjustable
> up and down
>
> I want to disengage the threading rod and run it similar to a plunge
> router without loosing the view I have with the Z access and router hanging
> on the front. I really appreciate how you can see the tooling being used so
> (no I'm not mounting a plunge router on the red plate.)
>
> so I have a plan for a lever and possibly a spring return type action to
> aid in returning or coming out of the cut. Similar to a servo motor but
> with out adding a motor.
>
>
>
> Has anyone done besides Curtis with using a ShopSmith assembly?
>
> I have several idea's and am going to apply something but looking for some
> feed back.
>
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Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 10:02 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Bill,
> I get an Aussie to drive his truck out on it - and if the truck falls
> thru, I  wait two more weeks had have him try it again.  I have to wait two
> weeks because that's how long it takes him to get the truck out and
> restored back to "operating condition".   And I keep doing that until his
> truck stays put.
> And, if all else fails, I get Tim Z to tell be when it's "safe". (See his
> input.)
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Dec 26, 2020 2:55 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
> Very interesting mac one question how do you know the ice is safe (thick
> enough) to drive on
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:14 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
>
>
> I have a friend that has the steel frame (w/axle & wheels) for the
> specially built trailer they use - on which to construct an Ice Fishing
> "shed".
>
> Two things make it very UNIQUE:
>
> 1.  The axle & wheel assembly is hydraulically lowered to drive it on the
> highway.  When you get the trailer/shed unit out onto your ice fishing
> spot, you release the hydraulic pressure and the axle & wheels retract up
> into the trailer frame - effectively lowering the steel trailer frame down
> onto the ice.
>
> 2.  The steel frame is designed such that there is one fair sized
> rectangular area that has no steel frame or reinforcing members in it.
> That area is about 36" by ~60".   Also, the tongue on these trailers is
> either removable or foldable - to get it out of the way.
>
>
>
> Once the "Ice Fishing House" is lowered onto the ice and you get your
> heater going, you bore your holes in the ice within that open, unobstructed
> rectangle.  After you get the opening in the ice, it takes you skimming and
> occasionally chipping the ice that tries to grow back in the hole.  Of
> course if you go home for the night, you'll have to drill & chip all over
> again the next day.
>
>
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Dec 26, 2020 1:42 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
>
> I know nothing of ice fishing for obvious reasons . so how do you tell the
> ice is thick enough to walk or drive on to go ice fishing
>
> And once you got the hole cut how do you stop it refreezing over while
> your fishing basically please give me an ice fishing lesson 101
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 26 December 2020 3:17 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
>
>
> Hey Mac
>
> Last email for the night. I am almost ready for ice fishing yes indeed. I
> gave my one Son Ice fishing equipment for Christmas and that
>
> could only mean one thing right?  You guessed it he wants me to take him.
> Better let the ice get a bit thicker though.
>
> Have a blessed night Mac. Glad you got a good sense of humour.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 9:55 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> LoL!
>
> Ha! - they eventually let us "commoners" own them.  After WWII, the GI's
> fell in love with them.
>
> The first one brought to the US (as the "story"/history goes) was actually
> brought by Helen Keller.  She was in Japan on a cultural exchange
> mission(?).  The Japanese Minister of Culture(?) gave her one as a
> departure gift (NOT a "seeing eye dog" kind of gift.).  It was sort of akin
> to one of our national officials giving a Bald Eagle to a departing
> dignitary.  The Akita is still HIGHLY regarded in Japan - for good reason
> as Ron Taylor mentioned.
>
> Here's wishing all ya'll a Wonderful fun-filled Weekend!  (Go ice fishing
> Tim Z. - and take the cats with you.  Make them catfish!  LoL!)
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Dec 25, 2020 7:25 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
> So your Royal Highness where does that put you my friend?   LOL
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 3:39 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> Thanks, Bill.
>
> She's 120 lbs - and about 28" (72cm) at her front shoulder).
>
> Couldn't ask for a better dog.  We are "sold" 

RE: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

2020-12-26 Thread bulkeley
I totally understand rosettes do get you in lol I never got past using the 1” 
rope bit  and of corse the planning bit so so so many combinations you can make 
with rosettes lol I assume your using double sided tape to hold them during 
milling.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 2:50 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Yes I was using the 1 1/2 in rope moulding bit.

My bit is slightly dull and I was enjoying it so much I did not want to 

sharpen it. I was using cedar to so extremely soft wood and dull bit. not a 
great combo. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 7:43 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I like this one looks great accept for the tear out slower rpm might help that

Can you tell me what router bits you used

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 9:22 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Yea jus did another one

 

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 4:08 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Well looks like your well on the way to rosette making fun isn’t it 😉

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 8:45 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:35 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

yea was trying to remember the name with out looking it up. I know the name " 
Chips Fly" sold the 

gadget lol.  I'm understanding the concept. 

Lots of good idea's out there. 

thanks Mac


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 3:28 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Tim,

The "device" I think that is being pointed out to you is one called a "Wood 
Rat".  You will find numerous mentions of it on the internet; add "routers" 
and/or "tools" to the search to increase accuracy of hits.

Merry Christmas to you and ALL the other Group members!

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Dec 20, 2020 3:47 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge 

Bill you have to help me a bit on this site? I opened it but can;t see what you 
might be referring?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


  _  


 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Sort of like this guy has done? 
https://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/woodworking-crafts/kit-tools/ancillary-equipment/jig-systems/legacy-revo/

 

Bill


  _  


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
timjz...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, 21 December 2020 4:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Ok new topic here to add to the day. 

As you all know what happens when you reach the place your router stops when 
turning, fluting etc it usually burns So.. get in route and get out no 
burn. 

I have been working on an idea in my mind to convert my Z access with the Non 
Plunge router PC that several of us have with the threaded adjustable up and 
down

I want to disengage the threading rod and run it similar to a plunge router 
without loosing the view I have with the Z access and router hanging on the 
front. I really appreciate how you can see the tooling being used so (no I'm 
not mounting a plunge router on the red plate.)

so I have a plan for a lever and possibly a spring return type action to aid in 
returning or coming out of the cut. Similar to a servo motor but with out 
adding a motor. 

 

Has anyone done besides Curtis with using a ShopSmith assembly?

I have several idea's and am going to apply something but looking for some feed 
back.

 


RE: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

2020-12-26 Thread bulkeley
Use windows snipping tool and snip the whole pic and save it to the desktop it 
will then be 1meg or less no matter how big the pic is

 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 2:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

yup I was having problems trying to get more then 2 to send even after using 
Curts down sizing method?


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 4:46 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I saw 2 pics one of a rosette and one of a spindle

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 8:52 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

yup I re watched the last couple videos again to make sure. 

Did my pix come through now of what I did Bill?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 3:45 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

On my rosettes I use the plunge router but you know that if you watched my 
videos

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 3:22 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

So today I have chose to do some training on my LOM, 

When you make rosettes are you using a plunge router on the red sliding base or 

the Tall tower type Z access?

I could see the plunge being a super huge benefit as the project VCR tapes show 
only that???




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 3:16 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I mean the plunge lever on the router, for quick release to stop burning.zoom 
the pics up a bit

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 21 December 2020 7:47 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Bill you have to help me a bit on this site? I opened it but can;t see what you 
might be referring?

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Sort of like this guy has done? 
https://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/woodworking-crafts/kit-tools/ancillary-equipment/jig-systems/legacy-revo/

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
timjz...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, 21 December 2020 4:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Ok new topic here to add to the day. 

As you all know what happens when you reach the place your router stops when 
turning, fluting etc it usually burns So.. get in route and get out no 
burn. 

I have been working on an idea in my mind to convert my Z access with the Non 
Plunge router PC that several of us have with the threaded adjustable up and 
down

I want to disengage the threading rod and run it similar to a plunge router 
without loosing the view I have with the Z access and router hanging on the 
front. I really appreciate how you can see the tooling being used so (no I'm 
not mounting a plunge router on the red plate.)

so I have a plan for a lever and possibly a spring return type action to aid in 
returning or coming out of the cut. Similar to a servo motor but with out 
adding a motor. 

 

Has anyone done besides Curtis with using a ShopSmith assembly?

I have several idea's and am going to apply something but looking for some feed 
back. 

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RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS

2020-12-26 Thread M.W.Foscue
Bill,I get an Aussie to drive his truck out on it - and if the truck falls thru, I  wait two more weeks had have him try it again.  I have to wait two weeks because that's how long it takes him to get the truck out and restored back to "operating condition".   And I keep doing that until his truck stays put.And, if all else fails, I get Tim Z to tell be when it's "safe". (See his input.)Mac-Original Message-
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Dec 26, 2020 2:55 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS

Very interesting mac one question how do you know the ice is safe (thick enough) to drive on BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.W.FoscueSent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:14 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS I have a friend that has the steel frame (w/axle & wheels) for the specially built trailer they use - on which to construct an Ice Fishing "shed".Two things make it very UNIQUE:1.  The axle & wheel assembly is hydraulically lowered to drive it on the highway.  When you get the trailer/shed unit out onto your ice fishing spot, you release the hydraulic pressure and the axle & wheels retract up into the trailer frame - effectively lowering the steel trailer frame down onto the ice.2.  The steel frame is designed such that there is one fair sized rectangular area that has no steel frame or reinforcing members in it.  That area is about 36" by ~60".   Also, the tongue on these trailers is either removable or foldable - to get it out of the way. Once the "Ice Fishing House" is lowered onto the ice and you get your heater going, you bore your holes in the ice within that open, unobstructed rectangle.  After you get the opening in the ice, it takes you skimming and occasionally chipping the ice that tries to grow back in the hole.  Of course if you go home for the night, you'll have to drill & chip all over again the next day. I hope this helps.Mac-Original Message- From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au Sent: Dec 26, 2020 1:42 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS I know nothing of ice fishing for obvious reasons . so how do you tell the ice is thick enough to walk or drive on to go ice fishingAnd once you got the hole cut how do you stop it refreezing over while your fishing basically please give me an ice fishing lesson 101 BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 3:17 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS Hey Mac Last email for the night. I am almost ready for ice fishing yes indeed. I gave my one Son Ice fishing equipment for Christmas and that could only mean one thing right?  You guessed it he wants me to take him. Better let the ice get a bit thicker though. Have a blessed night Mac. Glad you got a good sense of humour.  Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 9:55 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:LoL!Ha! - they eventually let us "commoners" own them.  After WWII, the GI's fell in love with them.The first one brought to the US (as the "story"/history goes) was actually brought by Helen Keller.  She was in Japan on a cultural exchange mission(?).  The Japanese Minister of Culture(?) gave her one as a departure gift (NOT a "seeing eye dog" kind of gift.).  It was sort of akin to one of our national officials giving a Bald Eagle to a departing dignitary.  The Akita is still HIGHLY regarded in Japan - for good reason as Ron Taylor mentioned.Here's wishing all ya'll a Wonderful fun-filled Weekend!  (Go ice fishing Tim Z. - and take the cats with you.  Make them catfish!  LoL!)Mac-Original Message- From: Tim Ziegler Sent: Dec 25, 2020 7:25 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS So your Royal Highness where does that put you my friend?   LOL Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 3:39 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:Thanks, Bill.She's 120 lbs - and about 28" (72cm) at her front shoulder).Couldn't ask for a better dog.  We are "sold" on the Akita breed.  They originated in Japan - where only the Emperor & "royalty" could own them.  Bred to hunt bear & deer in their northern prefect (Akita Prefect).Very loyal and a good "guard dog" - even w/ children.Look up the movie about an Akita - "Hachi - A Dog's Tale" - staring Richard Gere.Watch it with your kids & grandchildren.  Excellent movie for that - all will enjoy. (Cats might not like it!  LoL!!)Blessngs  all.Mac-Original Message- From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au Sent: Dec 25, 2020 1:58 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS Lovely dog I love big dogs BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.W.FoscueSent: Friday, 25 December 2020 5:12 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-m

Re: Re Shopsmith

2020-12-26 Thread 'David Mann' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
I have a SS that stays in drill press mode, built into my work bench. I just 
insert a heavy drill bit and set a block or more on the table (depending on how 
much I want to raise or lower the headstock). Then just use the quill handle to 
raise or lower after engaging the block depending on what I need next. Takes 
about half a minute. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 26, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Brigitte Graham  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi People, Nearly "Happy New Year",
> This is a shopsmith question, so if you feel it is not relevant, please feel 
> free to delete the topic!
> When you have raised the SS bed to its vertical position, for say, pillar 
> drill operations, how do you move the motor up/down the way rails without the 
> weight of the motor crashing down?
> Other than lowering the machine to horizontal mode each time you want to 
> adjust the distance of the chuck from the table, (which is what you are 
> supposed to do but is bit of a pain) how do you Chaps get over this problem? 
> Though, I suspect you all have the strength to heave the motor and lock it in 
> position all quite easily!!
> 
> I am thinking it needs something like the 'notched' tubes that move the 
> horizontal pillar drill table in and out.
> 
> But to make something (that doesn't involve welding) that could move the 
> weight up/down in small controlled increments. 
> Perhaps a scissor jack on the table?
> 
> Cheers
> Legacy Widow
> 
> 
> 
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Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yes I was using the 1 1/2 in rope moulding bit.
My bit is slightly dull and I was enjoying it so much I did not want to
sharpen it. I was using cedar to so extremely soft wood and dull bit. not a
great combo.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 7:43 PM  wrote:

> I like this one looks great accept for the tear out slower rpm might help
> that
>
> Can you tell me what router bits you used
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, 27 December 2020 9:22 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> Yea jus did another one
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 4:08 PM  wrote:
>
> Well looks like your well on the way to rosette making fun isn’t it 😉
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, 27 December 2020 8:45 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:35 PM Tim Ziegler 
> wrote:
>
> yea was trying to remember the name with out looking it up. I know the
> name " Chips Fly" sold the
>
> gadget lol.  I'm understanding the concept.
>
> Lots of good idea's out there.
>
> thanks Mac
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 3:28 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> The "device" I think that is being pointed out to you is one called a
> "Wood Rat".  You will find numerous mentions of it on the internet; add
> "routers" and/or "tools" to the search to increase accuracy of hits.
>
> Merry Christmas to you and ALL the other Group members!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Dec 20, 2020 3:47 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
> Bill you have to help me a bit on this site? I opened it but can;t see
> what you might be referring?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM  wrote:
>
> Sort of like this guy has done?
> https://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/woodworking-crafts/kit-tools/ancillary-equipment/jig-systems/legacy-revo/
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> timjz...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 21 December 2020 4:39 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> Ok new topic here to add to the day.
>
> As you all know what happens when you reach the place your router stops
> when turning, fluting etc it usually burns So.. get in route and
> get out no burn.
>
> I have been working on an idea in my mind to convert my Z access with the
> Non Plunge router PC that several of us have with the threaded adjustable
> up and down
>
> I want to disengage the threading rod and run it similar to a plunge
> router without loosing the view I have with the Z access and router hanging
> on the front. I really appreciate how you can see the tooling being used so
> (no I'm not mounting a plunge router on the red plate.)
>
> so I have a plan for a lever and possibly a spring return type action to
> aid in returning or coming out of the cut. Similar to a servo motor but
> with out adding a motor.
>
>
>
> Has anyone done besides Curtis with using a ShopSmith assembly?
>
> I have several idea's and am going to apply something but looking for some
> feed back.
>
>
>
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Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yes plunge router on the router plate far beats the Z axis I was trying to
crank up and down out of the work.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 4:59 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Very Nice Tim!
> It looks like you found your way.
> I would say either method will work.  But what ever you did, KEEP IT UP.
>  ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, December 26, 2020, 05:30:04 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yea jus did another one
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 4:08 PM  wrote:
>
> Well looks like your well on the way to rosette making fun isn’t it 😉
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, 27 December 2020 8:45 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:35 PM Tim Ziegler 
> wrote:
>
> yea was trying to remember the name with out looking it up. I know the
> name " Chips Fly" sold the
>
> gadget lol.  I'm understanding the concept.
>
> Lots of good idea's out there.
>
> thanks Mac
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 3:28 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> The "device" I think that is being pointed out to you is one called a
> "Wood Rat".  You will find numerous mentions of it on the internet; add
> "routers" and/or "tools" to the search to increase accuracy of hits.
>
> Merry Christmas to you and ALL the other Group members!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Dec 20, 2020 3:47 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
> Bill you have to help me a bit on this site? I opened it but can;t see
> what you might be referring?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM  wrote:
>
> Sort of like this guy has done?
> https://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/woodworking-crafts/kit-tools/ancillary-equipment/jig-systems/legacy-revo/
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> timjz...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 21 December 2020 4:39 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> Ok new topic here to add to the day.
>
> As you all know what happens when you reach the place your router stops
> when turning, fluting etc it usually burns So.. get in route and
> get out no burn.
>
> I have been working on an idea in my mind to convert my Z access with the
> Non Plunge router PC that several of us have with the threaded adjustable
> up and down
>
> I want to disengage the threading rod and run it similar to a plunge
> router without loosing the view I have with the Z access and router hanging
> on the front. I really appreciate how you can see the tooling being used so
> (no I'm not mounting a plunge router on the red plate.)
>
> so I have a plan for a lever and possibly a spring return type action to
> aid in returning or coming out of the cut. Similar to a servo motor but
> with out adding a motor.
>
>
>
> Has anyone done besides Curtis with using a ShopSmith assembly?
>
> I have several idea's and am going to apply something but looking for some
> feed back.
>
>
>
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Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup I was having problems trying to get more then 2 to send even after
using Curts down sizing method?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 4:46 PM  wrote:

> I saw 2 pics one of a rosette and one of a spindle
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, 27 December 2020 8:52 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> yup I re watched the last couple videos again to make sure.
>
> Did my pix come through now of what I did Bill?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 3:45 PM  wrote:
>
> On my rosettes I use the plunge router but you know that if you watched my
> videos
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, 27 December 2020 3:22 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> So today I have chose to do some training on my LOM,
>
> When you make rosettes are you using a plunge router on the red sliding
> base or
>
> the Tall tower type Z access?
>
> I could see the plunge being a super huge benefit as the project VCR tapes
> show only that???
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 3:16 PM  wrote:
>
> I mean the plunge lever on the router, for quick release to stop
> burning.zoom the pics up a bit
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 21 December 2020 7:47 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> Bill you have to help me a bit on this site? I opened it but can;t see
> what you might be referring?
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM  wrote:
>
> Sort of like this guy has done?
> https://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/woodworking-crafts/kit-tools/ancillary-equipment/jig-systems/legacy-revo/
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> timjz...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 21 December 2020 4:39 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> Ok new topic here to add to the day.
>
> As you all know what happens when you reach the place your router stops
> when turning, fluting etc it usually burns So.. get in route and
> get out no burn.
>
> I have been working on an idea in my mind to convert my Z access with the
> Non Plunge router PC that several of us have with the threaded adjustable
> up and down
>
> I want to disengage the threading rod and run it similar to a plunge
> router without loosing the view I have with the Z access and router hanging
> on the front. I really appreciate how you can see the tooling being used so
> (no I'm not mounting a plunge router on the red plate.)
>
> so I have a plan for a lever and possibly a spring return type action to
> aid in returning or coming out of the cut. Similar to a servo motor but
> with out adding a motor.
>
>
>
> Has anyone done besides Curtis with using a ShopSmith assembly?
>
> I have several idea's and am going to apply something but looking for some
> feed back.
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RE: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

2020-12-26 Thread bulkeley
I like this one looks great accept for the tear out slower rpm might help that

Can you tell me what router bits you used

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 9:22 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Yea jus did another one

 

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 4:08 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Well looks like your well on the way to rosette making fun isn’t it 😉

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 8:45 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:35 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

yea was trying to remember the name with out looking it up. I know the name " 
Chips Fly" sold the 

gadget lol.  I'm understanding the concept. 

Lots of good idea's out there. 

thanks Mac


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 3:28 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Tim,

The "device" I think that is being pointed out to you is one called a "Wood 
Rat".  You will find numerous mentions of it on the internet; add "routers" 
and/or "tools" to the search to increase accuracy of hits.

Merry Christmas to you and ALL the other Group members!

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Dec 20, 2020 3:47 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge 

Bill you have to help me a bit on this site? I opened it but can;t see what you 
might be referring?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


  _  


 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Sort of like this guy has done? 
https://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/woodworking-crafts/kit-tools/ancillary-equipment/jig-systems/legacy-revo/

 

Bill


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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
timjz...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, 21 December 2020 4:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Ok new topic here to add to the day. 

As you all know what happens when you reach the place your router stops when 
turning, fluting etc it usually burns So.. get in route and get out no 
burn. 

I have been working on an idea in my mind to convert my Z access with the Non 
Plunge router PC that several of us have with the threaded adjustable up and 
down

I want to disengage the threading rod and run it similar to a plunge router 
without loosing the view I have with the Z access and router hanging on the 
front. I really appreciate how you can see the tooling being used so (no I'm 
not mounting a plunge router on the red plate.)

so I have a plan for a lever and possibly a spring return type action to aid in 
returning or coming out of the cut. Similar to a servo motor but with out 
adding a motor. 

 

Has anyone done besides Curtis with using a ShopSmith assembly?

I have several idea's and am going to apply something but looking for some feed 
back.

 

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Re: Re Shopsmith

2020-12-26 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Now that's NEAT!  
To my surprise it one that I have not seen. 
Thank Mike. ;-)
C.A.G.
On Saturday, December 26, 2020, 03:17:38 PM EST, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
 wrote:  
 
  
Here is a real simple solution.  I will save you from the first part of the 
video https://youtu.be/M30uvwZdLmE?t=404  
 
 
Mike
 
 On 12/26/2020 1:51 PM, Brigitte Graham wrote:
  
  Hi People, Nearly "Happy New Year", This is a shopsmith question, so if you 
feel it is not relevant, please feel free to delete the topic! When you have 
raised the SS bed to its vertical position, for say, pillar drill operations, 
how do you move the motor up/down the way rails without the weight of the motor 
crashing down? Other than lowering the machine to horizontal mode each time you 
want to adjust the distance of the chuck from the table, (which is what you are 
supposed to do but is bit of a pain) how do you Chaps get over this problem? 
Though, I suspect you all have the strength to heave the motor and lock it in 
position all quite easily!! 
  I am thinking it needs something like the 'notched' tubes that move the 
horizontal pillar drill table in and out.
  
  But to make something (that doesn't involve welding) that could move the 
weight up/down in small controlled increments.  Perhaps a scissor jack on the 
table? 
  Cheers Legacy Widow 
  
  
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Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

2020-12-26 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Very Nice Tim!It looks like you found your way.I would say either method will 
work.  But what ever you did, KEEP IT UP.   ;-)
C.A.G.
On Saturday, December 26, 2020, 05:30:04 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Yea jus did another one
On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 4:08 PM  wrote:


Well looks like your well on the way to rosette making fun isn’t it 😉

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 8:45 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:35 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:


yea was trying to remember the name with out looking it up. I know the name " 
Chips Fly" sold the 

gadget lol.  I'm understanding the concept. 

Lots of good idea's out there. 

thanks Mac


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 3:28 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:


Tim,

The "device" I think that is being pointed out to you is one called a "Wood 
Rat".  You will find numerous mentions of it on the internet; add "routers" 
and/or "tools" to the search to increase accuracy of hits.

Merry Christmas to you and ALL the other Group members!

Mac


-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Dec 20, 2020 3:47 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge 

Bill you have to help me a bit on this site? I opened it but can;t see what you 
might be referring?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM  wrote:


Sort of like this guy has done? 
https://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/woodworking-crafts/kit-tools/ancillary-equipment/jig-systems/legacy-revo/

 

Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of timjz...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, 21 December 2020 4:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Ok new topic here to add to the day. 

As you all know what happens when you reach the place your router stops when 
turning, fluting etc it usually burns So.. get in route and get out no 
burn. 

I have been working on an idea in my mind to convert my Z access with the Non 
Plunge router PC that several of us have with the threaded adjustable up and 
down

I want to disengage the threading rod and run it similar to a plunge router 
without loosing the view I have with the Z access and router hanging on the 
front. I really appreciate how you can see the tooling being used so (no I'm 
not mounting a plunge router on the red plate.)

so I have a plan for a lever and possibly a spring return type action to aid in 
returning or coming out of the cut. Similar to a servo motor but with out 
adding a motor. 

 

Has anyone done besides Curtis with using a ShopSmith assembly?

I have several idea's and am going to apply something but looking for some feed 
back.

 



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RE: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

2020-12-26 Thread bulkeley
I saw 2 pics one of a rosette and one of a spindle

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 8:52 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

yup I re watched the last couple videos again to make sure. 

Did my pix come through now of what I did Bill?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 3:45 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

On my rosettes I use the plunge router but you know that if you watched my 
videos

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 3:22 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

So today I have chose to do some training on my LOM, 

When you make rosettes are you using a plunge router on the red sliding base or 

the Tall tower type Z access?

I could see the plunge being a super huge benefit as the project VCR tapes show 
only that???




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 3:16 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I mean the plunge lever on the router, for quick release to stop burning.zoom 
the pics up a bit

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 21 December 2020 7:47 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Bill you have to help me a bit on this site? I opened it but can;t see what you 
might be referring?

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Sort of like this guy has done? 
https://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/woodworking-crafts/kit-tools/ancillary-equipment/jig-systems/legacy-revo/

 

Bill

 

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timjz...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, 21 December 2020 4:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Ok new topic here to add to the day. 

As you all know what happens when you reach the place your router stops when 
turning, fluting etc it usually burns So.. get in route and get out no 
burn. 

I have been working on an idea in my mind to convert my Z access with the Non 
Plunge router PC that several of us have with the threaded adjustable up and 
down

I want to disengage the threading rod and run it similar to a plunge router 
without loosing the view I have with the Z access and router hanging on the 
front. I really appreciate how you can see the tooling being used so (no I'm 
not mounting a plunge router on the red plate.)

so I have a plan for a lever and possibly a spring return type action to aid in 
returning or coming out of the cut. Similar to a servo motor but with out 
adding a motor. 

 

Has anyone done besides Curtis with using a ShopSmith assembly?

I have several idea's and am going to apply something but looking for some feed 
back. 

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RE: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

2020-12-26 Thread bulkeley
Well looks like your well on the way to rosette making fun isn’t it 😉

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 8:45 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:35 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

yea was trying to remember the name with out looking it up. I know the name " 
Chips Fly" sold the 

gadget lol.  I'm understanding the concept. 

Lots of good idea's out there. 

thanks Mac


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 3:28 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Tim,

The "device" I think that is being pointed out to you is one called a "Wood 
Rat".  You will find numerous mentions of it on the internet; add "routers" 
and/or "tools" to the search to increase accuracy of hits.

Merry Christmas to you and ALL the other Group members!

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Dec 20, 2020 3:47 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge 

Bill you have to help me a bit on this site? I opened it but can;t see what you 
might be referring?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler


  _  


 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Sort of like this guy has done? 
https://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/woodworking-crafts/kit-tools/ancillary-equipment/jig-systems/legacy-revo/

 

Bill


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timjz...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, 21 December 2020 4:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Ok new topic here to add to the day. 

As you all know what happens when you reach the place your router stops when 
turning, fluting etc it usually burns So.. get in route and get out no 
burn. 

I have been working on an idea in my mind to convert my Z access with the Non 
Plunge router PC that several of us have with the threaded adjustable up and 
down

I want to disengage the threading rod and run it similar to a plunge router 
without loosing the view I have with the Z access and router hanging on the 
front. I really appreciate how you can see the tooling being used so (no I'm 
not mounting a plunge router on the red plate.)

so I have a plan for a lever and possibly a spring return type action to aid in 
returning or coming out of the cut. Similar to a servo motor but with out 
adding a motor. 

 

Has anyone done besides Curtis with using a ShopSmith assembly?

I have several idea's and am going to apply something but looking for some feed 
back.

 

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RE: Re Shopsmith

2020-12-26 Thread bulkeley
Those shop smiths really are a versatile machine 

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 7:17 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Re Shopsmith

 

Here is a real simple solution.  I will save you from the first part of the 
video https://youtu.be/M30uvwZdLmE?t=404  

Mike

On 12/26/2020 1:51 PM, Brigitte Graham wrote:

Hi People, Nearly "Happy New Year",

This is a shopsmith question, so if you feel it is not relevant, please feel 
free to delete the topic!

When you have raised the SS bed to its vertical position, for say, pillar drill 
operations, how do you move the motor up/down the way rails without the weight 
of the motor crashing down?

Other than lowering the machine to horizontal mode each time you want to adjust 
the distance of the chuck from the table, (which is what you are supposed to do 
but is bit of a pain) how do you Chaps get over this problem? Though, I suspect 
you all have the strength to heave the motor and lock it in position all quite 
easily!!

 

I am thinking it needs something like the 'notched' tubes that move the 
horizontal pillar drill table in and out.

 

But to make something (that doesn't involve welding) that could move the weight 
up/down in small controlled increments. 

Perhaps a scissor jack on the table?

 

Cheers

Legacy Widow

 

 

 

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RE: Re Shopsmith

2020-12-26 Thread bulkeley
This one is out of my league I don’t have a shop smith good luck im sure some 
one will have the answer

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Brigitte Graham
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 6:51 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Subject: Re Shopsmith

 

Hi People, Nearly "Happy New Year",

This is a shopsmith question, so if you feel it is not relevant, please feel 
free to delete the topic!

When you have raised the SS bed to its vertical position, for say, pillar drill 
operations, how do you move the motor up/down the way rails without the weight 
of the motor crashing down?

Other than lowering the machine to horizontal mode each time you want to adjust 
the distance of the chuck from the table, (which is what you are supposed to do 
but is bit of a pain) how do you Chaps get over this problem? Though, I suspect 
you all have the strength to heave the motor and lock it in position all quite 
easily!!

 

I am thinking it needs something like the 'notched' tubes that move the 
horizontal pillar drill table in and out.

 

But to make something (that doesn't involve welding) that could move the weight 
up/down in small controlled increments. 

Perhaps a scissor jack on the table?

 

Cheers

Legacy Widow

 

 

 

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Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup I re watched the last couple videos again to make sure.
Did my pix come through now of what I did Bill?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 3:45 PM  wrote:

> On my rosettes I use the plunge router but you know that if you watched my
> videos
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, 27 December 2020 3:22 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> So today I have chose to do some training on my LOM,
>
> When you make rosettes are you using a plunge router on the red sliding
> base or
>
> the Tall tower type Z access?
>
> I could see the plunge being a super huge benefit as the project VCR tapes
> show only that???
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 3:16 PM  wrote:
>
> I mean the plunge lever on the router, for quick release to stop
> burning.zoom the pics up a bit
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 21 December 2020 7:47 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> Bill you have to help me a bit on this site? I opened it but can;t see
> what you might be referring?
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM  wrote:
>
> Sort of like this guy has done?
> https://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/woodworking-crafts/kit-tools/ancillary-equipment/jig-systems/legacy-revo/
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> timjz...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 21 December 2020 4:39 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> Ok new topic here to add to the day.
>
> As you all know what happens when you reach the place your router stops
> when turning, fluting etc it usually burns So.. get in route and
> get out no burn.
>
> I have been working on an idea in my mind to convert my Z access with the
> Non Plunge router PC that several of us have with the threaded adjustable
> up and down
>
> I want to disengage the threading rod and run it similar to a plunge
> router without loosing the view I have with the Z access and router hanging
> on the front. I really appreciate how you can see the tooling being used so
> (no I'm not mounting a plunge router on the red plate.)
>
> so I have a plan for a lever and possibly a spring return type action to
> aid in returning or coming out of the cut. Similar to a servo motor but
> with out adding a motor.
>
>
>
> Has anyone done besides Curtis with using a ShopSmith assembly?
>
> I have several idea's and am going to apply something but looking for some
> feed back.
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RE: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

2020-12-26 Thread bulkeley
On my rosettes I use the plunge router but you know that if you watched my 
videos

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2020 3:22 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

So today I have chose to do some training on my LOM, 

When you make rosettes are you using a plunge router on the red sliding base or 

the Tall tower type Z access?

I could see the plunge being a super huge benefit as the project VCR tapes show 
only that???




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 3:16 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I mean the plunge lever on the router, for quick release to stop burning.zoom 
the pics up a bit

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 21 December 2020 7:47 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Bill you have to help me a bit on this site? I opened it but can;t see what you 
might be referring?

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Sort of like this guy has done? 
https://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/woodworking-crafts/kit-tools/ancillary-equipment/jig-systems/legacy-revo/

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
timjz...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, 21 December 2020 4:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

 

Ok new topic here to add to the day. 

As you all know what happens when you reach the place your router stops when 
turning, fluting etc it usually burns So.. get in route and get out no 
burn. 

I have been working on an idea in my mind to convert my Z access with the Non 
Plunge router PC that several of us have with the threaded adjustable up and 
down

I want to disengage the threading rod and run it similar to a plunge router 
without loosing the view I have with the Z access and router hanging on the 
front. I really appreciate how you can see the tooling being used so (no I'm 
not mounting a plunge router on the red plate.)

so I have a plan for a lever and possibly a spring return type action to aid in 
returning or coming out of the cut. Similar to a servo motor but with out 
adding a motor. 

 

Has anyone done besides Curtis with using a ShopSmith assembly?

I have several idea's and am going to apply something but looking for some feed 
back. 

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Re: MERRY CRISTMAS

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yes sir a poor day of fishing is still better then a day of work lol.
but I enjoy both so

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 3:32 PM  wrote:

> Thank you Tim now I know about ice fishing, I’m used to doing it from a
> boat or off the bank. Through the ice sounds fun as well
>
> But any fishing is good fishing right 😊
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 26 December 2020 11:14 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: MERRY CRISTMAS
>
>
>
> Hey Bill, and others that don't get to enjoy the good things in life.
>
>
>
> Fishing 101
>
>
>
> I actually take the very scientific approach to fishing and when it's
> safe.
>
>
>
> I listen to the ice thickness reports and once I see plenty of others out
> fishing I get brave and go. lol
>
>
>
> I'm not big about standing in the cold either so I have a potable 6 X 8
> portable (folding) Clam brand fish house.
>
>
>
> I have gas power auger, to cut the holes and once we've drilled the first
> hole or so we clean out the ice fragments
>
> with a ice skimmer or scoop.
>
>
>
> Here is where I can technically measure the ice. I have an
> extremely accurate measuring device to get the exact thickness
>
> of the Ice. My handle for my ice skimmer. If I cant reach the bottom edge
> of the ice with the skimmer I feel pretty confident
>
> the ice is thick enough to support my vehicle and us along with our
> equipment.
>
>
>
> We do walk out from time to time if we start fishing early enough in the
> season and the lakes are not so big
>
> that you can't see across the lake.
>
>
>
> So once the first hole is drilled we set up the house and pull it over the
> first hole mark the rest fo the hole with the
>
> auger, move the house off, drill the rest of the hole, clean them out with
> skimmer and pull the house the back over
>
> the holes and now we are ready.
>
>
>
> Then I light my SunFlower heater set that up and commence setting up the
> jig sticks (ice fishing rods).
>
>
>
> find the depth of the water with a another super scientific measuring
> device a lead weight with a clip on it to clamp on the
>
> hook I'm using. Send it down to the bottom of the lake then pull it up
> using the spread of my arms to
>
> measure what we refer to as arm lenghts. Most people know their height and
> your arm lengths from tip to tip should
>
> be close to your height and if count arm lengths you now know how deep the
> water is there.
>
>
>
>  Now we slide our bobbler up approx 2 feet  so your hook dangles about 2
> feet from the bottom, bait the hooks with either minnow's of wax worms.
>
> Let the hook and line into water and comence fishing. Jigging from time to
> time to entice the fish to bit your hook.
>
>
>
> Now pour your coffee, grab your chips or snacks and enjoy.
>
>
>
> Fishing 101 explained in a short form lol.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 12:42 AM  wrote:
>
> I know nothing of ice fishing for obvious reasons . so how do you tell the
> ice is thick enough to walk or drive on to go ice fishing
>
> And once you got the hole cut how do you stop it refreezing over while
> your fishing basically please give me an ice fishing lesson 101
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 26 December 2020 3:17 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: MERRY CRISTMAS
>
>
>
> Hey Mac
>
> Last email for the night. I am almost ready for ice fishing yes indeed. I
> gave my one Son Ice fishing equipment for Christmas and that
>
> could only mean one thing right?  You guessed it he wants me to take him.
> Better let the ice get a bit thicker though.
>
> Have a blessed night Mac. Glad you got a good sense of humour.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 9:55 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> LoL!
>
> Ha! - they eventually let us "commoners" own them.  After WWII, the GI's
> fell in love with them.
>
> The first one brought to the US (as the "story"/history goes) was actually
> brought by Helen Keller.  She was in Japan on a cultural exchange
> mission(?).  The Japanese Minister of Culture(?) gave her one as a
> departure gift (NOT a "seeing eye dog" kind of gift.).  It was sort of akin
> to one of our national officials giving a Bald Eagle to a departing
> dignitary.  The Akita is still HIGHLY regarded in Japan - for good reason
> as Ron Taylor mentio

Re: Re Shopsmith

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
yea both sound like good idea's. Yes the jack would be easier to micro
adjust

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 3:34 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:

> Another way would be to put a boat winch on the back bottom rails, put a
> pulley on the very top and then strap the the motor/headstock.  The cable
> winch could lift as well as lower.  Truthfully, I like the jack.  Use a
> socket and drill to lift and lower.  It's light enough to pull it out of
> the way when you are in position.  If there is not enough lift, reset the
> table higher and have another go at it.
>
> Mike OK
> On 12/26/2020 2:17 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) wrote:
>
> Here is a real simple solution.  I will save you from the first part of
> the video https://youtu.be/M30uvwZdLmE?t=404
>
> Mike
> On 12/26/2020 1:51 PM, Brigitte Graham wrote:
>
> Hi People, Nearly "Happy New Year",
> This is a shopsmith question, so if you feel it is not relevant, please
> feel free to delete the topic!
> When you have raised the SS bed to its vertical position, for say, pillar
> drill operations, how do you move the motor up/down the way rails without
> the weight of the motor crashing down?
> Other than lowering the machine to horizontal mode each time you want to
> adjust the distance of the chuck from the table, (which is what you are
> supposed to do but is bit of a pain) how do you Chaps get over this
> problem? Though, I suspect you all have the strength to heave the motor and
> lock it in position all quite easily!!
>
> I am thinking it needs something like the 'notched' tubes that move the
> horizontal pillar drill table in and out.
>
> But to make something (that doesn't involve welding) that could move the
> weight up/down in small controlled increments.
> Perhaps a scissor jack on the table?
>
> Cheers
> Legacy Widow
>
>
>
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Re: Re Shopsmith

2020-12-26 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
Another way would be to put a boat winch on the back bottom rails, put a 
pulley on the very top and then strap the the motor/headstock.  The 
cable winch could lift as well as lower.  Truthfully, I like the jack.  
Use a socket and drill to lift and lower.  It's light enough to pull it 
out of the way when you are in position.  If there is not enough lift, 
reset the table higher and have another go at it.


Mike OK

On 12/26/2020 2:17 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) wrote:


Here is a real simple solution.  I will save you from the first part 
of the video https://youtu.be/M30uvwZdLmE?t=404


Mike

On 12/26/2020 1:51 PM, Brigitte Graham wrote:

Hi People, Nearly "Happy New Year",
This is a shopsmith question, so if you feel it is not relevant, 
please feel free to delete the topic!
When you have raised the SS bed to its vertical position, for say, 
pillar drill operations, how do you move the motor up/down the way 
rails without the weight of the motor crashing down?
Other than lowering the machine to horizontal mode each time you want 
to adjust the distance of the chuck from the table, (which is 
what you are supposed to do but is bit of a pain) how do you Chaps 
get over this problem? Though, I suspect you all have the strength to 
heave the motor and lock it in position all quite easily!!


I am thinking it needs something like the 'notched' tubes that move 
the horizontal pillar drill table in and out.


But to make something (that doesn't involve welding) that could move 
the weight up/down in small controlled increments.

Perhaps a scissor jack on the table?

Cheers
Legacy Widow



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RE: MERRY CRISTMAS

2020-12-26 Thread bulkeley
Thank you Tim now I know about ice fishing, I’m used to doing it from a boat or 
off the bank. Through the ice sounds fun as well

But any fishing is good fishing right 😊

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 11:14 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MERRY CRISTMAS

 

Hey Bill, and others that don't get to enjoy the good things in life. 

 

Fishing 101

 

I actually take the very scientific approach to fishing and when it's safe.  

 

I listen to the ice thickness reports and once I see plenty of others out 
fishing I get brave and go. lol

 

I'm not big about standing in the cold either so I have a potable 6 X 8 
portable (folding) Clam brand fish house.

 

I have gas power auger, to cut the holes and once we've drilled the first hole 
or so we clean out the ice fragments

with a ice skimmer or scoop. 

 

Here is where I can technically measure the ice. I have an extremely accurate 
measuring device to get the exact thickness

of the Ice. My handle for my ice skimmer. If I cant reach the bottom edge of 
the ice with the skimmer I feel pretty confident 

the ice is thick enough to support my vehicle and us along with our equipment. 

 

We do walk out from time to time if we start fishing early enough in the season 
and the lakes are not so big

that you can't see across the lake. 

 

So once the first hole is drilled we set up the house and pull it over the 
first hole mark the rest fo the hole with the 

auger, move the house off, drill the rest of the hole, clean them out with 
skimmer and pull the house the back over

the holes and now we are ready. 

 

Then I light my SunFlower heater set that up and commence setting up the jig 
sticks (ice fishing rods).

 

find the depth of the water with a another super scientific measuring device a 
lead weight with a clip on it to clamp on the

hook I'm using. Send it down to the bottom of the lake then pull it up using 
the spread of my arms to 

measure what we refer to as arm lenghts. Most people know their height and your 
arm lengths from tip to tip should

be close to your height and if count arm lengths you now know how deep the 
water is there.

 

 Now we slide our bobbler up approx 2 feet  so your hook dangles about 2 feet 
from the bottom, bait the hooks with either minnow's of wax worms. 

Let the hook and line into water and comence fishing. Jigging from time to time 
to entice the fish to bit your hook. 

 

Now pour your coffee, grab your chips or snacks and enjoy. 

 

Fishing 101 explained in a short form lol.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 12:42 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I know nothing of ice fishing for obvious reasons . so how do you tell the ice 
is thick enough to walk or drive on to go ice fishing

And once you got the hole cut how do you stop it refreezing over while your 
fishing basically please give me an ice fishing lesson 101

 

Bill

 

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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 3:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: MERRY CRISTMAS

 

Hey Mac 

Last email for the night. I am almost ready for ice fishing yes indeed. I gave 
my one Son Ice fishing equipment for Christmas and that 

could only mean one thing right?  You guessed it he wants me to take him. 
Better let the ice get a bit thicker though. 

Have a blessed night Mac. Glad you got a good sense of humour.  


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 9:55 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

LoL!

Ha! - they eventually let us "commoners" own them.  After WWII, the GI's fell 
in love with them.

The first one brought to the US (as the "story"/history goes) was actually 
brought by Helen Keller.  She was in Japan on a cultural exchange mission(?).  
The Japanese Minister of Culture(?) gave her one as a departure gift (NOT a 
"seeing eye dog" kind of gift.).  It was sort of akin to one of our national 
officials giving a Bald Eagle to a departing dignitary.  The Akita is still 
HIGHLY regarded in Japan - for good reason as Ron Taylor mentioned.

Here's wishing all ya'll a Wonderful fun-filled Weekend!  (Go ice fishing Tim 
Z. - and take the cats with you.  Make them catfish!  LoL!)

Mac


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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
Subject: Re: MERRY CRISTMAS 


Re: Re Shopsmith

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey that is a pretty slick idea Mike lol, now if we could figure out a way
to have that mounted in there some how
so you can leave it on wouldn't that be slick???
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:

> Here is a real simple solution.  I will save you from the first part of
> the video https://youtu.be/M30uvwZdLmE?t=404
>
> Mike
> On 12/26/2020 1:51 PM, Brigitte Graham wrote:
>
> Hi People, Nearly "Happy New Year",
> This is a shopsmith question, so if you feel it is not relevant, please
> feel free to delete the topic!
> When you have raised the SS bed to its vertical position, for say, pillar
> drill operations, how do you move the motor up/down the way rails without
> the weight of the motor crashing down?
> Other than lowering the machine to horizontal mode each time you want to
> adjust the distance of the chuck from the table, (which is what you are
> supposed to do but is bit of a pain) how do you Chaps get over this
> problem? Though, I suspect you all have the strength to heave the motor and
> lock it in position all quite easily!!
>
> I am thinking it needs something like the 'notched' tubes that move the
> horizontal pillar drill table in and out.
>
> But to make something (that doesn't involve welding) that could move the
> weight up/down in small controlled increments.
> Perhaps a scissor jack on the table?
>
> Cheers
> Legacy Widow
>
>
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Re: Re Shopsmith

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Brigitte,

Unfortunately we all do what you just suggested if we need to move the head
stock up when you have the
shopsmith in the vertical position, I grasp the bar below the head stock
loosen the large wing nut and move it up.
For sure not the best method to adjust it.
So you are much better off starting with machine in Horizontal position,
slide head stock to top lock and then flip up.
Problem there is it then gets heavier.
Then I would recommend doing all the adjusting with the table which is
typically much easier to move.
I know that may not be the best but it is what works.
The other thing would be to add a crank similar to our Z access's on our
LOM's but needs some engineering.
Someone may pick off here where I left off here and offer some
addtional advice or run on the idea anyway.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 1:52 PM Brigitte Graham 
wrote:

> Hi People, Nearly "Happy New Year",
> This is a shopsmith question, so if you feel it is not relevant, please
> feel free to delete the topic!
> When you have raised the SS bed to its vertical position, for say, pillar
> drill operations, how do you move the motor up/down the way rails without
> the weight of the motor crashing down?
> Other than lowering the machine to horizontal mode each time you want to
> adjust the distance of the chuck from the table, (which is what you are
> supposed to do but is bit of a pain) how do you Chaps get over this
> problem? Though, I suspect you all have the strength to heave the motor and
> lock it in position all quite easily!!
>
> I am thinking it needs something like the 'notched' tubes that move the
> horizontal pillar drill table in and out.
>
> But to make something (that doesn't involve welding) that could move the
> weight up/down in small controlled increments.
> Perhaps a scissor jack on the table?
>
> Cheers
> Legacy Widow
>
>
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Re: Re Shopsmith

2020-12-26 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
Here is a real simple solution.  I will save you from the first part of 
the video https://youtu.be/M30uvwZdLmE?t=404


Mike

On 12/26/2020 1:51 PM, Brigitte Graham wrote:

Hi People, Nearly "Happy New Year",
This is a shopsmith question, so if you feel it is not relevant, 
please feel free to delete the topic!
When you have raised the SS bed to its vertical position, for say, 
pillar drill operations, how do you move the motor up/down the way 
rails without the weight of the motor crashing down?
Other than lowering the machine to horizontal mode each time you want 
to adjust the distance of the chuck from the table, (which is 
what you are supposed to do but is bit of a pain) how do you Chaps get 
over this problem? Though, I suspect you all have the strength to 
heave the motor and lock it in position all quite easily!!


I am thinking it needs something like the 'notched' tubes that move 
the horizontal pillar drill table in and out.


But to make something (that doesn't involve welding) that could move 
the weight up/down in small controlled increments.

Perhaps a scissor jack on the table?

Cheers
Legacy Widow



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Re Shopsmith

2020-12-26 Thread Brigitte Graham
Hi People, Nearly "Happy New Year",
This is a shopsmith question, so if you feel it is not relevant, please
feel free to delete the topic!
When you have raised the SS bed to its vertical position, for say, pillar
drill operations, how do you move the motor up/down the way rails without
the weight of the motor crashing down?
Other than lowering the machine to horizontal mode each time you want to
adjust the distance of the chuck from the table, (which is what you are
supposed to do but is bit of a pain) how do you Chaps get over this
problem? Though, I suspect you all have the strength to heave the motor and
lock it in position all quite easily!!

I am thinking it needs something like the 'notched' tubes that move the
horizontal pillar drill table in and out.

But to make something (that doesn't involve welding) that could move the
weight up/down in small controlled increments.
Perhaps a scissor jack on the table?

Cheers
Legacy Widow

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Plunge router over/Z access part 2

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Ok so heres what I'm doing until I come up with a good solution for making
the Z access plungable.

so I would like some input to any of you that have both and which you like
operating better.
Obviously the Z access has the best view but is a very cumbersome up and
down etc... heavy and lets face it not fast at getting out of the material
before burns. So I'm going to see how this goes.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell

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Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
So today I have chose to do some training on my LOM,
When you make rosettes are you using a plunge router on the red sliding
base or
the Tall tower type Z access?
I could see the plunge being a super huge benefit as the project VCR tapes
show only that???

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 3:16 PM  wrote:

> I mean the plunge lever on the router, for quick release to stop
> burning.zoom the pics up a bit
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 21 December 2020 7:47 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> Bill you have to help me a bit on this site? I opened it but can;t see
> what you might be referring?
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM  wrote:
>
> Sort of like this guy has done?
> https://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/woodworking-crafts/kit-tools/ancillary-equipment/jig-systems/legacy-revo/
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> timjz...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 21 December 2020 4:39 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* turning Z access in to lever action plunge
>
>
>
> Ok new topic here to add to the day.
>
> As you all know what happens when you reach the place your router stops
> when turning, fluting etc it usually burns So.. get in route and
> get out no burn.
>
> I have been working on an idea in my mind to convert my Z access with the
> Non Plunge router PC that several of us have with the threaded adjustable
> up and down
>
> I want to disengage the threading rod and run it similar to a plunge
> router without loosing the view I have with the Z access and router hanging
> on the front. I really appreciate how you can see the tooling being used so
> (no I'm not mounting a plunge router on the red plate.)
>
> so I have a plan for a lever and possibly a spring return type action to
> aid in returning or coming out of the cut. Similar to a servo motor but
> with out adding a motor.
>
>
>
> Has anyone done besides Curtis with using a ShopSmith assembly?
>
> I have several idea's and am going to apply something but looking for some
> feed back.
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Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Sorry Bill I think I hit the hay before your questions come up. I was also
watching LOM videos.
So missed your question. Hope with Mac and my descriptions it all makes
more sense.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 1:55 AM  wrote:

> Very interesting mac one question how do you know the ice is safe (thick
> enough) to drive on
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:14 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
>
>
> I have a friend that has the steel frame (w/axle & wheels) for the
> specially built trailer they use - on which to construct an Ice Fishing
> "shed".
>
> Two things make it very UNIQUE:
>
> 1.  The axle & wheel assembly is hydraulically lowered to drive it on the
> highway.  When you get the trailer/shed unit out onto your ice fishing
> spot, you release the hydraulic pressure and the axle & wheels retract up
> into the trailer frame - effectively lowering the steel trailer frame down
> onto the ice.
>
> 2.  The steel frame is designed such that there is one fair sized
> rectangular area that has no steel frame or reinforcing members in it.
> That area is about 36" by ~60".   Also, the tongue on these trailers is
> either removable or foldable - to get it out of the way.
>
>
>
> Once the "Ice Fishing House" is lowered onto the ice and you get your
> heater going, you bore your holes in the ice within that open, unobstructed
> rectangle.  After you get the opening in the ice, it takes you skimming and
> occasionally chipping the ice that tries to grow back in the hole.  Of
> course if you go home for the night, you'll have to drill & chip all over
> again the next day.
>
>
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Dec 26, 2020 1:42 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
>
> I know nothing of ice fishing for obvious reasons . so how do you tell the
> ice is thick enough to walk or drive on to go ice fishing
>
> And once you got the hole cut how do you stop it refreezing over while
> your fishing basically please give me an ice fishing lesson 101
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 26 December 2020 3:17 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
>
>
> Hey Mac
>
> Last email for the night. I am almost ready for ice fishing yes indeed. I
> gave my one Son Ice fishing equipment for Christmas and that
>
> could only mean one thing right?  You guessed it he wants me to take him.
> Better let the ice get a bit thicker though.
>
> Have a blessed night Mac. Glad you got a good sense of humour.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 9:55 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> LoL!
>
> Ha! - they eventually let us "commoners" own them.  After WWII, the GI's
> fell in love with them.
>
> The first one brought to the US (as the "story"/history goes) was actually
> brought by Helen Keller.  She was in Japan on a cultural exchange
> mission(?).  The Japanese Minister of Culture(?) gave her one as a
> departure gift (NOT a "seeing eye dog" kind of gift.).  It was sort of akin
> to one of our national officials giving a Bald Eagle to a departing
> dignitary.  The Akita is still HIGHLY regarded in Japan - for good reason
> as Ron Taylor mentioned.
>
> Here's wishing all ya'll a Wonderful fun-filled Weekend!  (Go ice fishing
> Tim Z. - and take the cats with you.  Make them catfish!  LoL!)
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Dec 25, 2020 7:25 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
> So your Royal Highness where does that put you my friend?   LOL
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 3:39 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> Thanks, Bill.
>
> She's 120 lbs - and about 28" (72cm) at her front shoulder).
>
> Couldn't ask for a better dog.  We are "sold" on the Akita breed.
>
> They originated in Japan - where only the Emperor & "royalty" could own
> them.
>
> Bred to hunt bear & deer in their northern prefect (Akita Prefect).
>
> Very loyal and a good "guard dog" - even w/ children.
>
> Look up the movie about an Akita - "Hachi - A Dog's Tale" - staring
> Richard Gere.
>
> Watch it with your kids & grandchildren.  Excellent movie for that - all
> will enjoy. (Cats might not like it!  LoL!!)
>
> Blessngs  all.
>
> Mac
> ---

Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Except lots of us don't have those really fancy Ice fishing Castles but yes
pretty much how it works. lol
The house you described starts out at over $10,000  so I use my $600.00
fold up.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 1:13 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> I have a friend that has the steel frame (w/axle & wheels) for the
> specially built trailer they use - on which to construct an Ice Fishing
> "shed".
> Two things make it very UNIQUE:
> 1.  The axle & wheel assembly is hydraulically lowered to drive it on the
> highway.  When you get the trailer/shed unit out onto your ice fishing
> spot, you release the hydraulic pressure and the axle & wheels retract up
> into the trailer frame - effectively lowering the steel trailer frame down
> onto the ice.
> 2.  The steel frame is designed such that there is one fair sized
> rectangular area that has no steel frame or reinforcing members in it.
> That area is about 36" by ~60".   Also, the tongue on these trailers is
> either removable or foldable - to get it out of the way.
>
> Once the "Ice Fishing House" is lowered onto the ice and you get your
> heater going, you bore your holes in the ice within that open, unobstructed
> rectangle.  After you get the opening in the ice, it takes you skimming and
> occasionally chipping the ice that tries to grow back in the hole.  Of
> course if you go home for the night, you'll have to drill & chip all over
> again the next day.
>
> I hope this helps.
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Dec 26, 2020 1:42 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
> I know nothing of ice fishing for obvious reasons . so how do you tell the
> ice is thick enough to walk or drive on to go ice fishing
>
> And once you got the hole cut how do you stop it refreezing over while
> your fishing basically please give me an ice fishing lesson 101
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 26 December 2020 3:17 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
>
>
> Hey Mac
>
> Last email for the night. I am almost ready for ice fishing yes indeed. I
> gave my one Son Ice fishing equipment for Christmas and that
>
> could only mean one thing right?  You guessed it he wants me to take him.
> Better let the ice get a bit thicker though.
>
> Have a blessed night Mac. Glad you got a good sense of humour.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 9:55 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> LoL!
>
> Ha! - they eventually let us "commoners" own them.  After WWII, the GI's
> fell in love with them.
>
> The first one brought to the US (as the "story"/history goes) was actually
> brought by Helen Keller.  She was in Japan on a cultural exchange
> mission(?).  The Japanese Minister of Culture(?) gave her one as a
> departure gift (NOT a "seeing eye dog" kind of gift.).  It was sort of akin
> to one of our national officials giving a Bald Eagle to a departing
> dignitary.  The Akita is still HIGHLY regarded in Japan - for good reason
> as Ron Taylor mentioned.
>
> Here's wishing all ya'll a Wonderful fun-filled Weekend!  (Go ice fishing
> Tim Z. - and take the cats with you.  Make them catfish!  LoL!)
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Dec 25, 2020 7:25 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
> So your Royal Highness where does that put you my friend?   LOL
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 3:39 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> Thanks, Bill.
>
> She's 120 lbs - and about 28" (72cm) at her front shoulder).
>
> Couldn't ask for a better dog.  We are "sold" on the Akita breed.
>
> They originated in Japan - where only the Emperor & "royalty" could own
> them.
>
> Bred to hunt bear & deer in their northern prefect (Akita Prefect).
>
> Very loyal and a good "guard dog" - even w/ children.
>
> Look up the movie about an Akita - "Hachi - A Dog's Tale" - staring
> Richard Gere.
>
> Watch it with your kids & grandchildren.  Excellent movie for that - all
> will enjoy. (Cats might not like it!  LoL!!)
>
> Blessngs  all.
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Dec 25, 2020 1:58 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: MERRY CHRISTMAS
>
> Lovely dog I love big dogs
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On B

Re: MERRY CRISTMAS

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Bill, and others that don't get to enjoy the good things in life.

Fishing 101

I actually take the very scientific approach to fishing and when it's
safe.

I listen to the ice thickness reports and once I see plenty of others out
fishing I get brave and go. lol

I'm not big about standing in the cold either so I have a potable 6 X 8
portable (folding) Clam brand fish house.

I have gas power auger, to cut the holes and once we've drilled the first
hole or so we clean out the ice fragments
with a ice skimmer or scoop.

Here is where I can technically measure the ice. I have an
extremely accurate measuring device to get the exact thickness
of the Ice. My handle for my ice skimmer. If I cant reach the bottom edge
of the ice with the skimmer I feel pretty confident
the ice is thick enough to support my vehicle and us along with our
equipment.

We do walk out from time to time if we start fishing early enough in the
season and the lakes are not so big
that you can't see across the lake.

So once the first hole is drilled we set up the house and pull it over the
first hole mark the rest fo the hole with the
auger, move the house off, drill the rest of the hole, clean them out with
skimmer and pull the house the back over
the holes and now we are ready.

Then I light my SunFlower heater set that up and commence setting up the
jig sticks (ice fishing rods).

find the depth of the water with a another super scientific measuring
device a lead weight with a clip on it to clamp on the
hook I'm using. Send it down to the bottom of the lake then pull it up
using the spread of my arms to
measure what we refer to as arm lenghts. Most people know their height and
your arm lengths from tip to tip should
be close to your height and if count arm lengths you now know how deep the
water is there.

 Now we slide our bobbler up approx 2 feet  so your hook dangles about 2
feet from the bottom, bait the hooks with either minnow's of wax worms.
Let the hook and line into water and comence fishing. Jigging from time to
time to entice the fish to bit your hook.

Now pour your coffee, grab your chips or snacks and enjoy.

Fishing 101 explained in a short form lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 12:42 AM  wrote:

> I know nothing of ice fishing for obvious reasons . so how do you tell the
> ice is thick enough to walk or drive on to go ice fishing
>
> And once you got the hole cut how do you stop it refreezing over while
> your fishing basically please give me an ice fishing lesson 101
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 26 December 2020 3:17 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: MERRY CRISTMAS
>
>
>
> Hey Mac
>
> Last email for the night. I am almost ready for ice fishing yes indeed. I
> gave my one Son Ice fishing equipment for Christmas and that
>
> could only mean one thing right?  You guessed it he wants me to take him.
> Better let the ice get a bit thicker though.
>
> Have a blessed night Mac. Glad you got a good sense of humour.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 9:55 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> LoL!
>
> Ha! - they eventually let us "commoners" own them.  After WWII, the GI's
> fell in love with them.
>
> The first one brought to the US (as the "story"/history goes) was actually
> brought by Helen Keller.  She was in Japan on a cultural exchange
> mission(?).  The Japanese Minister of Culture(?) gave her one as a
> departure gift (NOT a "seeing eye dog" kind of gift.).  It was sort of akin
> to one of our national officials giving a Bald Eagle to a departing
> dignitary.  The Akita is still HIGHLY regarded in Japan - for good reason
> as Ron Taylor mentioned.
>
> Here's wishing all ya'll a Wonderful fun-filled Weekend!  (Go ice fishing
> Tim Z. - and take the cats with you.  Make them catfish!  LoL!)
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Dec 25, 2020 7:25 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MERRY CRISTMAS
>
> So your Royal Highness where does that put you my friend?   LOL
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 3:39 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> Thanks, Bill.
>
> She's 120 lbs - and about 28" (72cm) at her front shoulder).
>
> Couldn't ask for a better dog.  We are "sold" on the Akita breed.
>
> They originated in Japan - where only the Emperor & "royalty" could own
> them.
>
> Bred to hunt bear & deer in their northern prefect (Akita Prefect).
>
> Very loyal and a good "guard dog" - even 

Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS

2020-12-26 Thread Tim Ziegler
I'm pretty sure if you had them come in the house they could lick your
plates when you were done eating lol. No dish washer needed lol.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 11:18 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Bill "listened" to you.  You didn't see his reply?
> Here - I cut & pasted it for you:
>
> Enjoy!
>
> *The family said they wanted a cat for Christmas...*
> *I usually do a turkey but hey if it’ll make em happy...*
>
> I'm with Bill!  LoL!!!
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Dec 25, 2020 10:40 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MERRY CRISTMAS
>
> Sounds like you should get a Cat Bill?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLHav%2BHPe8%2BrQ4bhF5hgQ85kQjt1QyBQrf60rQrnHGXvcw%40mail.gmail.com
> 
> .
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 9:03 PM  wrote:
>
>> Not my bloody dog he will go off with anybody he loves the whole human
>> race lol
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 26 December 2020 11:29 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: MERRY CRISTMAS
>>
>>
>>
>> yup for sure
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> --
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 5:39 PM  wrote:
>>
>> Yes very good movie I have seen it and yes you get misty when you watch
>> the undying loyalty of that dog.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ron Taylor
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 26 December 2020 8:55 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: MERRY CRISTMAS
>>
>>
>>
>> The Akita is said  to  be the most faithful dog in the world and
>> according to the film Japanese pet owners go to the shrine outside the
>> railway station every year to remember him. The film although of course,
>> somewhat dramatised is essentially the true story of the most faithful dog
>> in the world,  certainly worth a watch but be prepared to shed a tear or
>> two.
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 3:39 PM M.W.Foscue 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Bill.
>>
>> She's 120 lbs - and about 28" (72cm) at her front shoulder).
>>
>> Couldn't ask for a better dog.  We are "sold" on the Akita breed.
>>
>> They originated in Japan - where only the Emperor & "royalty" could own
>> them.
>>
>> Bred to hunt bear & deer in their northern prefect (Akita Prefect).
>>
>> Very loyal and a good "guard dog" - even w/ children.
>>
>> Look up the movie about an Akita - "Hachi - A Dog's Tale" - staring
>> Richard Gere.
>>
>> Watch it with your kids & grandchildren.  Excellent movie for that - all
>> will enjoy. (Cats might not like it!  LoL!!)
>>
>> Blessngs  all.
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
>> Sent: Dec 25, 2020 1:58 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: MERRY CRISTMAS
>>
>> Lovely dog I love big dogs
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
>> *Sent:* Friday, 25 December 2020 5:12 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: MERRY CRISTMAS
>>
>>
>>
>> Curtis,
>>
>>
>>
>> Love it!  Cute!
>>
>> (I have no use for cats - we are strictly a "Dogs-R-Us family"  Attached
>> photo is of our Akita.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>> Sent: Dec 25, 2020 12:48 AM
>> To: "legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com"
>> Subject: Re: MERRY CRISTMAS
>>
>>
>>
>> *The family said they wanted a cat for Christmas...*
>> *I usually do a turkey but hey if it’ll make em happy...*
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.  ;-P
>> --
>>
>> On Friday, December 25, 2020, 12:42:59 AM EST, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Simple Christmas dinner here down under roast turkey with home made
>> stuffing, roast potatoes and pumpkin and onion with mint peas.
>>
>> Followed by plumb pudding with custard and jelly and ice cream and a
>> spoon of double cream.
>>
>>
>>
>> All with heaps of treats in between
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-or