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them are pretty cool. What method are you using to turn the circles on the completed Ball type turning? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 11:51 PM anthony wrote: > I attached an image of the barley twist and a series of photos of a style > of > box I have been making lately. > One of the difficulties with the twist is that the travel may not be > constant throughout its length. I have only the two examples, and it is > difficult to be certain what is happening. > anthony > > > Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, > and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, > It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. > > -Original Message- > From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:42 AM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. > > > > Sorry I did not see your reply to the bone question. > > Do not boil your bone. a hot water bath will not hurt the bone, but > boiling > will weaken the bone. > > Hydrant peroxide a 2-3% will remove the oil and whiten up the bone, if > left > to soak in it for a week or two. > > here are some pix. of some of my turnings. > C.A.G. > > On Thursday, February 18, 2021, 01:19:55 AM EST, anthony > wrote: > > > I bought the femur at > > Atlantic Coral Enterprise, Inc. > 5000 Crescent Technical Court > St. Augustine, FL 32086 > Outside FL: 1-800-624-7964 > Inside FL: 904-797-7478 > > I have never glued bone before. I guess that you might need to boil it > first. Most of the bone I have worked with has a fair amount of oil in it. > I have had some boiled bone, it seems leached of oil, but I have never > turned it. > > I am primarily a turner. I have turned lots of things, but lately been > making boxes for fun and balusters and similar things for money. > > anthony > > > Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, > and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, > It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. > > -Original Message- > From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 7:26 AM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. > > > > Very Nice Anthony! > > Awesome wand. > > Where did you find A Giraffe femur? > > > What I have been doing is cutting bone disks out of Cow bones, and then > gluing the disks into a solid blanks for my turnings. sorta like making > bone > Plywood. It take more time to make the blank then it dose to turn it. But > the results are very nice. > Please let us know more about what you are doing. > > > C.A.G. > > On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 08:10:53 AM EST, anthony > wrote: > > > I read that you were considering turning some bone. > I have turned a couple of kinds of bone, this wand is made of Giraffe > femur. > It is the densest bone, and has the largest cross section that I have used. > The other materials are Blackwood, Bocote, Pink Ivory, Boxwood, Verawood, > Satine, and Osage Orange. > I call it the Eveready Swiss Army Utility Wand. Had to get the magical > batteries, the small pieces that screw into the base of the handle, by > seagull, the owls can't fly across the Atlantic, from the Eveready shop in > Diagon Alley. The toothpick was necessary to quality for Swiss Army. > anthony > > > Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, > and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, > It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 8:20 PM > To: Legacy ornamental mills > Subject: Looking for some new projects. > > > HI everyone. > > I hope everyone is well? > > Its COLD in my shop, So I spent most of my day staying inside. I've been > looking for projects to play with on the Legacy and or my Lathe. On the > internet today. > > I want to do some more bone turning, I have already cut out a number of > bone > disks, I am looking forward to gluing them up into something that I can > turn, soon. > The problem is What should I make? > I don't like pen's! > I have already made a number of magnify glass's and other kits type of > projects. > > I have gone to a number of dollar stores and hardware and thrift stores, > looking for cheaply made things that can be re-worked. but so far no luck > finding anything new. > So I thought I would ask you all. Dose anyone know of a nice projects, > that > you like to make? Family heirloom
Re: Looking for some new projects.
When I called them parallel, I meant that the flats were part of the spiral, that they are part of the spiral. The spiraled portion of the balusters are tapered. Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. -Original Message- From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:39 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Looking for some new projects. So your saying the spiral is meant to be parallel not tapered is that correct Bill -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of anthony Sent: Saturday, 20 February 2021 8:16 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. I attached an image of the barley twist and a series of photos of a style of box I have been making lately. One of the difficulties with the twist is that the travel may not be constant throughout its length. I have only the two examples, and it is difficult to be certain what is happening. anthony Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. -Original Message- From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:42 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. Sorry I did not see your reply to the bone question. Do not boil your bone. a hot water bath will not hurt the bone, but boiling will weaken the bone. Hydrant peroxide a 2-3% will remove the oil and whiten up the bone, if left to soak in it for a week or two. here are some pix. of some of my turnings. C.A.G. On Thursday, February 18, 2021, 01:19:55 AM EST, anthony wrote: I bought the femur at Atlantic Coral Enterprise, Inc. 5000 Crescent Technical Court St. Augustine, FL 32086 Outside FL: 1-800-624-7964 Inside FL: 904-797-7478 I have never glued bone before. I guess that you might need to boil it first. Most of the bone I have worked with has a fair amount of oil in it. I have had some boiled bone, it seems leached of oil, but I have never turned it. I am primarily a turner. I have turned lots of things, but lately been making boxes for fun and balusters and similar things for money. anthony Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. -Original Message- From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 7:26 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. Very Nice Anthony! Awesome wand. Where did you find A Giraffe femur? What I have been doing is cutting bone disks out of Cow bones, and then gluing the disks into a solid blanks for my turnings. sorta like making bone Plywood. It take more time to make the blank then it dose to turn it. But the results are very nice. Please let us know more about what you are doing. C.A.G. On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 08:10:53 AM EST, anthony wrote: I read that you were considering turning some bone. I have turned a couple of kinds of bone, this wand is made of Giraffe femur. It is the densest bone, and has the largest cross section that I have used. The other materials are Blackwood, Bocote, Pink Ivory, Boxwood, Verawood, Satine, and Osage Orange. I call it the Eveready Swiss Army Utility Wand. Had to get the magical batteries, the small pieces that screw into the base of the handle, by seagull, the owls can't fly across the Atlantic, from the Eveready shop in Diagon Alley. The toothpick was necessary to quality for Swiss Army. anthony Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. -Original Message- From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 8:20 PM To: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: Looking for some new projects. HI everyone. I hope everyone is well? Its COLD in my shop, So I spent most of my day staying inside. I've been looking for projects to play with on the Legacy and or my Lathe. On the internet today. I want to do some more bone turning, I have already cut out a number of bone disks, I am looking forward to gluing them up into something that I can turn, soon.
Re: Looking for some new projects.
Be nice to see a photo or two so I can understand it better. From what I have read it is a square long shape with tapers let in it at intervals Richard ( U.K. ) On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 3:19 PM anthony wrote: > When I called them parallel, I meant that the flats were part of the > spiral, > that they are part of the spiral. > The spiraled portion of the balusters are tapered. > > > > Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, > and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, > It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. > > -Original Message- > From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au > Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:39 AM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Looking for some new projects. > > So your saying the spiral is meant to be parallel not tapered is that > correct > > Bill > > -Original Message- > From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of anthony > Sent: Saturday, 20 February 2021 8:16 AM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. > > I attached an image of the barley twist and a series of photos of a style > of > box I have been making lately. > One of the difficulties with the twist is that the travel may not be > constant throughout its length. I have only the two examples, and it is > difficult to be certain what is happening. > anthony > > > Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, > and > the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better > to > decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. > > -Original Message- > From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:42 AM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. > > > > Sorry I did not see your reply to the bone question. > > Do not boil your bone. a hot water bath will not hurt the bone, but boiling > will weaken the bone. > > Hydrant peroxide a 2-3% will remove the oil and whiten up the bone, if left > to soak in it for a week or two. > > here are some pix. of some of my turnings. > C.A.G. > > On Thursday, February 18, 2021, 01:19:55 AM EST, anthony > wrote: > > > I bought the femur at > > Atlantic Coral Enterprise, Inc. > 5000 Crescent Technical Court > St. Augustine, FL 32086 > Outside FL: 1-800-624-7964 > Inside FL: 904-797-7478 > > I have never glued bone before. I guess that you might need to boil it > first. Most of the bone I have worked with has a fair amount of oil in it. > I have had some boiled bone, it seems leached of oil, but I have never > turned it. > > I am primarily a turner. I have turned lots of things, but lately been > making boxes for fun and balusters and similar things for money. > > anthony > > > Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, > and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, > It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. > > -Original Message- > From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 7:26 AM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. > > > > Very Nice Anthony! > > Awesome wand. > > Where did you find A Giraffe femur? > > > What I have been doing is cutting bone disks out of Cow bones, and then > gluing the disks into a solid blanks for my turnings. sorta like making > bone > Plywood. It take more time to make the blank then it dose to turn it. But > the results are very nice. > Please let us know more about what you are doing. > > > C.A.G. > > On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 08:10:53 AM EST, anthony > wrote: > > > I read that you were considering turning some bone. > I have turned a couple of kinds of bone, this wand is made of Giraffe > femur. > It is the densest bone, and has the largest cross section that I have used. > The other materials are Blackwood, Bocote, Pink Ivory, Boxwood, Verawood, > Satine, and Osage Orange. > I call it the Eveready Swiss Army Utility Wand. Had to get the magical > batteries, the small pieces that screw into the base of the handle, by > seagull, the owls can't fly across the Atlantic, from the Eveready shop in > Diagon Alley. The toothpick was necessary to quality for Swiss Army. > anthony > > > Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, > and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, > It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 8:20
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Thanks Curt for the reply It looks like it is the pitch that is the problem. Now a different matter When I try to reply to the author. ( You )It tells me I must belong to the Group ---Why is that ?? Richard On Saturday, February 20, 2021 at 3:51:16 PM UTC Curt George wrote: > Hello Richard this link has frayed and gone into 100 different > directions. Here is the photo Anthony posted. If you go to the group page > you can see the others that he sent. > > C.A.G. > > On Saturday, February 20, 2021, 10:42:02 AM EST, Richard Ellis < > rchrd@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Be nice to see a photo or two so I can understand it better. From what I > have read it is a square long shape with tapers let in it at intervals > Richard ( U.K. ) > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 3:19 PM anthony wrote: > > When I called them parallel, I meant that the flats were part of the > spiral, > that they are part of the spiral. > The spiraled portion of the balusters are tapered. > > > > Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, > and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, > It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. > > -Original Message- > From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au > Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:39 AM > To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Looking for some new projects. > > So your saying the spiral is meant to be parallel not tapered is that > correct > > Bill > > -Original Message- > From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of anthony > Sent: Saturday, 20 February 2021 8:16 AM > To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. > > I attached an image of the barley twist and a series of photos of a style > of > box I have been making lately. > One of the difficulties with the twist is that the travel may not be > constant throughout its length. I have only the two examples, and it is > difficult to be certain what is happening. > anthony > > > Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, > and > the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better > to > decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. > > -Original Message- > From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:42 AM > To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. > > > > Sorry I did not see your reply to the bone question. > > Do not boil your bone. a hot water bath will not hurt the bone, but boiling > will weaken the bone. > > Hydrant peroxide a 2-3% will remove the oil and whiten up the bone, if left > to soak in it for a week or two. > > here are some pix. of some of my turnings. > C.A.G. > > On Thursday, February 18, 2021, 01:19:55 AM EST, anthony > wrote: > > > I bought the femur at > > Atlantic Coral Enterprise, Inc. > 5000 Crescent Technical Court > St. Augustine, FL 32086 > Outside FL: 1-800-624-7964 <(800)%20624-7964> > Inside FL: 904-797-7478 <(904)%20797-7478> > > I have never glued bone before. I guess that you might need to boil it > first. Most of the bone I have worked with has a fair amount of oil in it. > I have had some boiled bone, it seems leached of oil, but I have never > turned it. > > I am primarily a turner. I have turned lots of things, but lately been > making boxes for fun and balusters and similar things for money. > > anthony > > > Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, > and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, > It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. > > -Original Message- > From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 7:26 AM > To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. > > > > Very Nice Anthony! > > Awesome wand. > > Where did you find A Giraffe femur? > > > What I have been doing is cutting bone disks out of Cow bones, and then > gluing the disks into a solid blanks for my turnings. sorta like making > bone > Plywood. It take more time to make the blank then it dose to turn it. But > the results are very nice. > Please let us know more about what you are doing. > > > C.A.G. > > On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 08:10:53 AM EST, anthony > wrote: > > > I read that you were considering turning some bone. > I have turned a couple of kinds of bone, this wand is made of Giraffe > femur. > It is the densest bone, and has the largest cross section that I have used. > The other materials are Blackwood, Bocote, Pink Ivory, Boxwood, Verawood, > Satine, and Osage Orange. > I call it the Eveready Swiss Army Utility Wand. Had to get the magical > batteries, the sma
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A cup chuck. The important part of the cup chuck is shaped like the inside of a coffee cup with the rim being very crisp and of a diameter just slightly smaller than the major diameter of the sphere and friction holds the sphere in place while you work it. The sphere can be placed in the cup chuck at any orientation to permit access to its entire surface. To make the box, all of the work on the sphere is done in the cup chuck except the initial step of turning the stock from square to approximate sphere. The internal box, that piece that comes out of the sphere, is turned mostly in a regular four-jawed chuck with one step done in a jam chuck. anthony Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. -Original Message- From: Tim Ziegler Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 5:47 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. them are pretty cool. What method are you using to turn the circles on the completed Ball type turning? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 11:51 PM anthony wrote: I attached an image of the barley twist and a series of photos of a style of box I have been making lately. One of the difficulties with the twist is that the travel may not be constant throughout its length. I have only the two examples, and it is difficult to be certain what is happening. anthony Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. -Original Message- From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:42 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. Sorry I did not see your reply to the bone question. Do not boil your bone. a hot water bath will not hurt the bone, but boiling will weaken the bone. Hydrant peroxide a 2-3% will remove the oil and whiten up the bone, if left to soak in it for a week or two. here are some pix. of some of my turnings. C.A.G. On Thursday, February 18, 2021, 01:19:55 AM EST, anthony wrote: I bought the femur at Atlantic Coral Enterprise, Inc. 5000 Crescent Technical Court St. Augustine, FL 32086 Outside FL: 1-800-624-7964 Inside FL: 904-797-7478 I have never glued bone before. I guess that you might need to boil it first. Most of the bone I have worked with has a fair amount of oil in it. I have had some boiled bone, it seems leached of oil, but I have never turned it. I am primarily a turner. I have turned lots of things, but lately been making boxes for fun and balusters and similar things for money. anthony Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. -Original Message- From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 7:26 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. Very Nice Anthony! Awesome wand. Where did you find A Giraffe femur? What I have been doing is cutting bone disks out of Cow bones, and then gluing the disks into a solid blanks for my turnings. sorta like making bone Plywood. It take more time to make the blank then it dose to turn it. But the results are very nice. Please let us know more about what you are doing. C.A.G. On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 08:10:53 AM EST, anthony wrote: I read that you were considering turning some bone. I have turned a couple of kinds of bone, this wand is made of Giraffe femur. It is the densest bone, and has the largest cross section that I have used. The other materials are Blackwood, Bocote, Pink Ivory, Boxwood, Verawood, Satine, and Osage Orange. I call it the Eveready Swiss Army Utility Wand. Had to get the magical batteries, the small pieces that screw into the base of the handle, by seagull, the owls can't fly across the Atlantic, from the Eveready shop in Diagon Alley. The toothpick was necessary to quality for Swiss Army. anthony Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. -Original Message- From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sen
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Hello again Richard.there is a problem with the Google group server. Andrew has replied but no matter how often I approve his e-mails it will not accept him as a member. I just approved him again, Now if all works out we should hear form him very soon. C.A.G. On Saturday, February 20, 2021, 12:01:52 PM EST, Richard Ellis wrote: Thanks Curt for the replyIt looks like it is the pitch that is the problem.Now a different matter When I try to reply to the author. ( You )It tells me I must belong to the Group ---Why is that ?? Richard On Saturday, February 20, 2021 at 3:51:16 PM UTC Curt George wrote: Hello Richard this link has frayed and gone into 100 different directions. Here is the photo Anthony posted. If you go to the group page you can see the others that he sent. C.A.G. On Saturday, February 20, 2021, 10:42:02 AM EST, Richard Ellis wrote: Be nice to see a photo or two so I can understand it better. From what I have read it is a square long shape with tapers let in it at intervalsRichard ( U.K. ) On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 3:19 PM anthony wrote: When I called them parallel, I meant that the flats were part of the spiral, that they are part of the spiral. The spiraled portion of the balusters are tapered. Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. -Original Message- From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:39 AM To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Looking for some new projects. So your saying the spiral is meant to be parallel not tapered is that correct Bill -Original Message- From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of anthony Sent: Saturday, 20 February 2021 8:16 AM To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. I attached an image of the barley twist and a series of photos of a style of box I have been making lately. One of the difficulties with the twist is that the travel may not be constant throughout its length. I have only the two examples, and it is difficult to be certain what is happening. anthony Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. -Original Message- From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:42 AM To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. Sorry I did not see your reply to the bone question. Do not boil your bone. a hot water bath will not hurt the bone, but boiling will weaken the bone. Hydrant peroxide a 2-3% will remove the oil and whiten up the bone, if left to soak in it for a week or two. here are some pix. of some of my turnings. C.A.G. On Thursday, February 18, 2021, 01:19:55 AM EST, anthony wrote: I bought the femur at Atlantic Coral Enterprise, Inc. 5000 Crescent Technical Court St. Augustine, FL 32086 Outside FL: 1-800-624-7964 Inside FL: 904-797-7478 I have never glued bone before. I guess that you might need to boil it first. Most of the bone I have worked with has a fair amount of oil in it. I have had some boiled bone, it seems leached of oil, but I have never turned it. I am primarily a turner. I have turned lots of things, but lately been making boxes for fun and balusters and similar things for money. anthony Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. -Original Message- From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 7:26 AM To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. Very Nice Anthony! Awesome wand. Where did you find A Giraffe femur? What I have been doing is cutting bone disks out of Cow bones, and then gluing the disks into a solid blanks for my turnings. sorta like making bone Plywood. It take more time to make the blank then it dose to turn it. But the results are very nice. Please let us know more about what you are doing. C.A.G. On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 08:10:53 AM EST, anthony wrote: I read that you were considering turning some bone. I have turned a couple of kinds of bone, this wand is made of Giraffe femur. It is the densest bone, and has the largest cross section that I have used. The other materials are Blackwood, Bocote, Pink Ivory, Boxwood, Verawood, Satine, and Osage Orange. I call it the Eveready Swiss Army Utility Wand. Had to
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Im not understanding the problem they look fine . Bill -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of anthony Sent: Saturday, 20 February 2021 7:17 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. When I called them parallel, I meant that the flats were part of the spiral, that they are part of the spiral. The spiraled portion of the balusters are tapered. Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. -Original Message- From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:39 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Looking for some new projects. So your saying the spiral is meant to be parallel not tapered is that correct Bill -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of anthony Sent: Saturday, 20 February 2021 8:16 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. I attached an image of the barley twist and a series of photos of a style of box I have been making lately. One of the difficulties with the twist is that the travel may not be constant throughout its length. I have only the two examples, and it is difficult to be certain what is happening. anthony Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. -Original Message- From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:42 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. Sorry I did not see your reply to the bone question. Do not boil your bone. a hot water bath will not hurt the bone, but boiling will weaken the bone. Hydrant peroxide a 2-3% will remove the oil and whiten up the bone, if left to soak in it for a week or two. here are some pix. of some of my turnings. C.A.G. On Thursday, February 18, 2021, 01:19:55 AM EST, anthony wrote: I bought the femur at Atlantic Coral Enterprise, Inc. 5000 Crescent Technical Court St. Augustine, FL 32086 Outside FL: 1-800-624-7964 Inside FL: 904-797-7478 I have never glued bone before. I guess that you might need to boil it first. Most of the bone I have worked with has a fair amount of oil in it. I have had some boiled bone, it seems leached of oil, but I have never turned it. I am primarily a turner. I have turned lots of things, but lately been making boxes for fun and balusters and similar things for money. anthony Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. -Original Message- From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 7:26 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. Very Nice Anthony! Awesome wand. Where did you find A Giraffe femur? What I have been doing is cutting bone disks out of Cow bones, and then gluing the disks into a solid blanks for my turnings. sorta like making bone Plywood. It take more time to make the blank then it dose to turn it. But the results are very nice. Please let us know more about what you are doing. C.A.G. On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 08:10:53 AM EST, anthony wrote: I read that you were considering turning some bone. I have turned a couple of kinds of bone, this wand is made of Giraffe femur. It is the densest bone, and has the largest cross section that I have used. The other materials are Blackwood, Bocote, Pink Ivory, Boxwood, Verawood, Satine, and Osage Orange. I call it the Eveready Swiss Army Utility Wand. Had to get the magical batteries, the small pieces that screw into the base of the handle, by seagull, the owls can't fly across the Atlantic, from the Eveready shop in Diagon Alley. The toothpick was necessary to quality for Swiss Army. anthony Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. -Original Message- From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 8:20 PM To: Legacy ornamental mills Subject: Looking for some new projects. HI everyone. I hope everyone is well? Its COLD in my shop, So I spent most of my day
Re: Bone turning 101.
Hello Everyone I was asked to show some more of how I cut my bone disks. C.A.G. On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 4:45:46 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote: > Awesome! Good Job Richard. > > Im sure Mike will be pleased that someone is using his method's . ;-) > (that is besides me.) ;-p > > C.A.G. > > On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 11:30:36 AM EST, Richard Ellis < > rchrd@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Curtis > Yes I can understand the dust problem. I have just made these small boxes > out of Yew wood, It got to me upset my breathing, and I shall be more > careful when I make the lids, keep the mask on for a longer time. The 3/8 > box joints were made using Mike's indexing method. They were a very good > and tight fit. With no adjustment re: fit > All the best > Richard > > On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 1:24:08 AM UTC Curt George wrote: > > Hello Mac. > > As a matter of fact I have. > But instead of re-using my bone dust, I want to buy bone meal, and mix > that with epoxy. It just might give me the look I want with just 1/2 of > the mess. ;-) > > Sorta like the crushed pecan shell statues that use to be so popular some > 10 yrs ago. (Once glued and pressed, the pecan shells looked like wood. > with a beautiful color and all around they looked like they were hand > carved, by a master wood carver.) > Bone meal just might do the same? > Mac. you are welcome to try it. I have to many things on my plate at this > time to try. > > Lastly, About the bone dust in the video. As long as the dust is not AIR > born is offers no threat, I will need to mask up again when its time to > clean up the shop, I have bone dust in every corner of the shop. (I made a > mess and did not bother to clean up...) > > "O" one more short note. Bone dust is good for plants, if mixed in the > soil. That's were all my fine sawdust and bone dust will end up. (In my > Mother In-law's garden.) "Only the finest for family.) ;-) > > Have a good night. > > C.A.G. > > On Saturday, January 2, 2021, 07:45:32 PM EST, M.W.Foscue < > mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > Curtis, > In the great video you made - showing us your various steps - you made > mention to be sure to mask up and not breath the "bonedust" - as you > touched a pile of it. > Have you thought about "recycling" it? Take a big pile of it, fold it > into some epoxy, and pack it into a mold. Then when the epoxy is cured, > "slice it & dice it" as needed. If you make the mold in a cylinder shape > you will be several steps ahead of the game. > Just my 3¢ worth. > Mac > -- > > -Original Message- > From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Jan 2, 2021 5:11 PM > To: "legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com" > Subject: Re: Bone turning 101. > > Thank you Birgitte. > > I will save this idea for latter research. Playing around with acid? > > My fear is the acid (much like boiling the bone.)Will weaken the bone > and make it un-useable. > I have Cola at home, It couldn't hurt to try this idea, I can see how it > effects the bone. > > My goal is the bend the bone (flatten it) so I can use it. If the bone > looses its properties and becomes soft or brittle, or badly stained, I cant > use it. > > My hope is by the use of ??? I can make the bone, or put into a plastic > state where it can be flattened, and latter it will retain its original > hardness and luster, it my goal. > > I am hoping the ammonia will do this. and after flat, My hope is the > ammonia will evaporate and leave the bone strong and solid/ usable for > turning. > > Have a good day. > > C.A.G. > -- > On Saturday, January 2, 2021, 03:57:35 PM EST, Brigitte Graham < > brigitte...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You can soften bone by soaking in hydrochloric acid. Also Cola, but I > suspect that the tannins(?) in Cola would discolour the bone. > By soaking the bone in an acid, you are removing the inorganic material > from the bone, and it might sort of de-nature it, > it might not 'work' in the same way? > Legacy Widow > -- > On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 at 19:28, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > So far the only ways that I can flatten out a bone is to cut and the sand > the bone. > > I have also found if I use carpet tape, (thin double sided tape) I mount a > flat side of the bone (or bones), onto a solid Alum bar, and then sand the > parts true. So I can get a number of disks all the same thickness and true > to each-other. making it much better for glue up. (and it helps me keep my > fingers form getting sanded/burned while sanding small parts.) > I use a 12" circler sanding disk for this process, the bar I use is 1 > 1/2"x 1 1/4"x 14" long. I can mount 8-12 bone disks on to this bar, This > trick works well for me. > > SIDE Note. > Mounting onto an Alum. bar. I have not tried this yet, although I have > read about it and I know Mike
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Hey Anthony, Any time you reference something like this chuck your talking about can you download a pix or two? Just be curious to see some of these items. Possibly others would be interested too? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 11:22 AM anthony wrote: > A cup chuck. The important part of the cup chuck is shaped like the > inside > of a coffee cup with the rim being very crisp and of a diameter just > slightly smaller than the major diameter of the sphere and friction holds > the sphere in place while you work it. The sphere can be placed in the > cup > chuck at any orientation to permit access to its entire surface. To make > the box, all of the work on the sphere is done in the cup chuck except the > initial step of turning the stock from square to approximate sphere. > The internal box, that piece that comes out of the sphere, is turned > mostly > in a regular four-jawed chuck with one step done in a jam chuck. > > anthony > > > Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, > and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, > It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. > > -Original Message- > From: Tim Ziegler > Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 5:47 AM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. > > > them are pretty cool. What method are you using to turn the circles on the > completed Ball type turning? > > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 11:51 PM anthony wrote: > I attached an image of the barley twist and a series of photos of a style > of > box I have been making lately. > One of the difficulties with the twist is that the travel may not be > constant throughout its length. I have only the two examples, and it is > difficult to be certain what is happening. > anthony > > > Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, > and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, > It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. > > -Original Message- > From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:42 AM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. > > > > Sorry I did not see your reply to the bone question. > > Do not boil your bone. a hot water bath will not hurt the bone, but boiling > will weaken the bone. > > Hydrant peroxide a 2-3% will remove the oil and whiten up the bone, if left > to soak in it for a week or two. > > here are some pix. of some of my turnings. > C.A.G. > > On Thursday, February 18, 2021, 01:19:55 AM EST, anthony > wrote: > > > I bought the femur at > > Atlantic Coral Enterprise, Inc. > 5000 Crescent Technical Court > St. Augustine, FL 32086 > Outside FL: 1-800-624-7964 > Inside FL: 904-797-7478 > > I have never glued bone before. I guess that you might need to boil it > first. Most of the bone I have worked with has a fair amount of oil in it. > I have had some boiled bone, it seems leached of oil, but I have never > turned it. > > I am primarily a turner. I have turned lots of things, but lately been > making boxes for fun and balusters and similar things for money. > > anthony > > > Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, > and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, > It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking. > > -Original Message- > From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 7:26 AM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects. > > > > Very Nice Anthony! > > Awesome wand. > > Where did you find A Giraffe femur? > > > What I have been doing is cutting bone disks out of Cow bones, and then > gluing the disks into a solid blanks for my turnings. sorta like making > bone > Plywood. It take more time to make the blank then it dose to turn it. But > the results are very nice. > Please let us know more about what you are doing. > > > C.A.G. > > On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 08:10:53 AM EST, anthony > wrote: > > > I read that you were considering turning some bone. > I have turned a couple of kinds of bone, this wand is made of Giraffe > femur. > It is the densest bone, and has the largest cross section that I have used. > The other materials are Blackwood, Bocote, Pink Ivory, Boxwood, Verawood, > Satine, and Osage Orange. > I call it the Eveready Swiss Army Uti
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your video was the only thing showing up on the last one but this email has several pix and the video. We should all try to do a bone turning on our LOM's and see what everyone can come up with. Or at least like items disked, and stacked to create something of beauty. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 5:07 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hello again everyone, Im not sure what happened? but here are the pix's > that I thought that I send on the last posing. > > These photos are form today's cutting, I used both the new cutters that I > made, the 1 1/4" and the 3/4". > > Both cutters worked well. > I was asked why make two? the main reason is not wanting to waist bone, > Depending on how I cut the bone. To get the flattest cut/ thickest disk > possible. a smaller cutter will let me make/cut a disk out of piece of bone > that would have to go into the garbage otherwise. > > The cutters are easy to make with out any fancy tooling. a drill press and > or lathe, is all that you need to modify/rework some already made tools. > the 3/4" cutter only cost me $30.00 to make, the 1 1/4" one just about > $70.00. I bought most of the parts on Amazon. (but other places like Wood > Craft, and Rockler, Woodpecker tools...) You could buy most of the part to > make these bone cutters as well. > > I was also asked why not just cut through the curvature of the bone? You > can do that, but if you cut the bone as flat as you can, you will be able > to cut thicker disks from the same bone. > > I have other questions, but I will have to answer those latter. > > Have a good night everyone. > > C.A.G. > > > On Saturday, February 20, 2021, 05:42:19 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy > Ornamental Mills wrote: > > > Hello Everyone > > I was asked to show some more of how I cut my bone disks. > > C.A.G. > > On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 4:45:46 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote: > > Awesome! Good Job Richard. > > Im sure Mike will be pleased that someone is using his method's . ;-) > (that is besides me.) ;-p > > C.A.G. > > On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 11:30:36 AM EST, Richard Ellis < > rchrd@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Curtis > Yes I can understand the dust problem. I have just made these small boxes > out of Yew wood, It got to me upset my breathing, and I shall be more > careful when I make the lids, keep the mask on for a longer time. The 3/8 > box joints were made using Mike's indexing method. They were a very good > and tight fit. With no adjustment re: fit > All the best > Richard > > On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 1:24:08 AM UTC Curt George wrote: > > Hello Mac. > > As a matter of fact I have. > But instead of re-using my bone dust, I want to buy bone meal, and mix > that with epoxy. It just might give me the look I want with just 1/2 of > the mess. ;-) > > Sorta like the crushed pecan shell statues that use to be so popular some > 10 yrs ago. (Once glued and pressed, the pecan shells looked like wood. > with a beautiful color and all around they looked like they were hand > carved, by a master wood carver.) > Bone meal just might do the same? > Mac. you are welcome to try it. I have to many things on my plate at this > time to try. > > Lastly, About the bone dust in the video. As long as the dust is not AIR > born is offers no threat, I will need to mask up again when its time to > clean up the shop, I have bone dust in every corner of the shop. (I made a > mess and did not bother to clean up...) > > "O" one more short note. Bone dust is good for plants, if mixed in the > soil. That's were all my fine sawdust and bone dust will end up. (In my > Mother In-law's garden.) "Only the finest for family.) ;-) > > Have a good night. > > C.A.G. > > On Saturday, January 2, 2021, 07:45:32 PM EST, M.W.Foscue < > mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > Curtis, > In the great video you made - showing us your various steps - you made > mention to be sure to mask up and not breath the "bonedust" - as you > touched a pile of it. > Have you thought about "recycling" it? Take a big pile of it, fold it > into some epoxy, and pack it into a mold. Then when the epoxy is cured, > "slice it & dice it" as needed. If you make the mold in a cylinder shape > you will be several steps ahead of the game. > Just my 3¢ worth. > Mac > -- > > -Original Message- > From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Jan 2, 2021 5:11 PM > To: "legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com" > Subject: Re: Bone turning 101. > > Thank you Birgitte. > > I will save this idea for latter research. Playing around with acid? > > My fear is the acid (much like boiling the bone.)Will weaken the bone > and make it un-useable. > I have Cola at home, It couldn't hurt to try this idea, I can see how it > effects the bone. > > My goal is the bend the bone
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Hey Curtis will have to email off group and get some of this going for myself. I for one am very excited about turning bone or Ivory look alike on the LOM Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 5:07 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hello again everyone, Im not sure what happened? but here are the pix's > that I thought that I send on the last posing. > > These photos are form today's cutting, I used both the new cutters that I > made, the 1 1/4" and the 3/4". > > Both cutters worked well. > I was asked why make two? the main reason is not wanting to waist bone, > Depending on how I cut the bone. To get the flattest cut/ thickest disk > possible. a smaller cutter will let me make/cut a disk out of piece of bone > that would have to go into the garbage otherwise. > > The cutters are easy to make with out any fancy tooling. a drill press and > or lathe, is all that you need to modify/rework some already made tools. > the 3/4" cutter only cost me $30.00 to make, the 1 1/4" one just about > $70.00. I bought most of the parts on Amazon. (but other places like Wood > Craft, and Rockler, Woodpecker tools...) You could buy most of the part to > make these bone cutters as well. > > I was also asked why not just cut through the curvature of the bone? You > can do that, but if you cut the bone as flat as you can, you will be able > to cut thicker disks from the same bone. > > I have other questions, but I will have to answer those latter. > > Have a good night everyone. > > C.A.G. > > > On Saturday, February 20, 2021, 05:42:19 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy > Ornamental Mills wrote: > > > Hello Everyone > > I was asked to show some more of how I cut my bone disks. > > C.A.G. > > On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 4:45:46 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote: > > Awesome! Good Job Richard. > > Im sure Mike will be pleased that someone is using his method's . ;-) > (that is besides me.) ;-p > > C.A.G. > > On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 11:30:36 AM EST, Richard Ellis < > rchrd@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Curtis > Yes I can understand the dust problem. I have just made these small boxes > out of Yew wood, It got to me upset my breathing, and I shall be more > careful when I make the lids, keep the mask on for a longer time. The 3/8 > box joints were made using Mike's indexing method. They were a very good > and tight fit. With no adjustment re: fit > All the best > Richard > > On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 1:24:08 AM UTC Curt George wrote: > > Hello Mac. > > As a matter of fact I have. > But instead of re-using my bone dust, I want to buy bone meal, and mix > that with epoxy. It just might give me the look I want with just 1/2 of > the mess. ;-) > > Sorta like the crushed pecan shell statues that use to be so popular some > 10 yrs ago. (Once glued and pressed, the pecan shells looked like wood. > with a beautiful color and all around they looked like they were hand > carved, by a master wood carver.) > Bone meal just might do the same? > Mac. you are welcome to try it. I have to many things on my plate at this > time to try. > > Lastly, About the bone dust in the video. As long as the dust is not AIR > born is offers no threat, I will need to mask up again when its time to > clean up the shop, I have bone dust in every corner of the shop. (I made a > mess and did not bother to clean up...) > > "O" one more short note. Bone dust is good for plants, if mixed in the > soil. That's were all my fine sawdust and bone dust will end up. (In my > Mother In-law's garden.) "Only the finest for family.) ;-) > > Have a good night. > > C.A.G. > > On Saturday, January 2, 2021, 07:45:32 PM EST, M.W.Foscue < > mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > Curtis, > In the great video you made - showing us your various steps - you made > mention to be sure to mask up and not breath the "bonedust" - as you > touched a pile of it. > Have you thought about "recycling" it? Take a big pile of it, fold it > into some epoxy, and pack it into a mold. Then when the epoxy is cured, > "slice it & dice it" as needed. If you make the mold in a cylinder shape > you will be several steps ahead of the game. > Just my 3¢ worth. > Mac > -- > > -Original Message- > From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Jan 2, 2021 5:11 PM > To: "legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com" > Subject: Re: Bone turning 101. > > Thank you Birgitte. > > I will save this idea for latter research. Playing around with acid? > > My fear is the acid (much like boiling the bone.)Will weaken the bone > and make it un-useable. > I have Cola at home, It couldn't hurt to try this idea, I can see how it > effects the bone. > > My goal is the bend the bone (flatten it) so I can use it. If the bone > looses its properties and becomes soft or brittle, or badly stained, I c
