RE: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

[bulkeley]

Any time buddy

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 1:38 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

 

Thank you Bill.

You saved me form having to make it my self.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 11:32:10 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Curt you might find this helpful when I was playing around with

The possibility of 8TPI leadscrews on our legacy mills

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 12:42 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

 

Hi Tim

 

Yes I do own a 5/8-8 Acme tap.  Its the easiest part of the job.  just drill a 
1/2" hole on the plastic.

Then tap it, cut in half, and then sand to fit, once fitting is done just drill 
a 5/16" hole and tap 3/8" for the set-screw. 

Its the same process for cutting the 5/8-4.  Supper EASY. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 10:20:13 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hey Curt,

 

Super excited to see your results for sure. I may convert my Revo for the pen 
and game call turning. 

Just keep us posted on the results and any adjustments you end up doing to get 
it to work. 

I see no reason it will not work. Yes you will have to explain how you threaded 
that split nut too. I'd assume you have a

tap like many of us do for the larger one. Except you have 8 TPI instead of the 
4 TPI




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:50 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Hello Everyone.

 

"Well" I works! ;-)

Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on the 

test that I have done today.

 

This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.

And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.

 

Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What use

to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.

So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,

it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be 1/2 
of what the chart states.) 

 

I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very 
simple 

process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)

Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the original 
5/8-4 

Acme screw on my 200.

And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon. 

OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.

 

NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making 
furniture.

and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large 
spindles, But when 

I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that the 
pitches were just to 

big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did not 
look right, It was

almost to large for the small spindle.

 

Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.  Years 
back We (a number of 

people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch so you 
could get a finer/cleaner

looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.  

As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.

I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.   

 
https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
 

I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all my 
original parts and it is a easy 

replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.

 

Here are some photo's.

 

Please let my know what you think about this idea.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hello Everyone.

 

"Well" I works! ;-)

Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on the 

test that I have done today.

 

This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.

And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.

 

Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What use

to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.

So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,

it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be 1/2 
of what the chart states.) 

 

I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 scr

Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Thank you Bill.You saved me form having to make it my self.
C.A.G.
On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 11:32:10 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
Curt you might find this helpful when I was playing around with

The possibility of 8TPI leadscrews on our legacy mills

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 12:42 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

  

Hi Tim

  

Yes I do own a 5/8-8 Acme tap.  Its the easiest part of the job.  just drill a 
1/2" hole on the plastic.

Then tap it, cut in half, and then sand to fit, once fitting is done just drill 
a 5/16" hole and tap 3/8" for the set-screw. 

Its the same process for cutting the 5/8-4.  Supper EASY. ;-)

  

C.A.G.

  

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 10:20:13 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

  

  

Hey Curt,

  

Super excited to see your results for sure. I may convert my Revo for the pen 
and game call turning. 

Just keep us posted on the results and any adjustments you end up doing to get 
it to work. 

I see no reason it will not work. Yes you will have to explain how you threaded 
that split nut too. I'd assume you have a

tap like many of us do for the larger one. Except you have 8 TPI instead of the 
4 TPI




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:50 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


  

Hello Everyone.

  

"Well" I works! ;-)

Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on the 

test that I have done today.

  

This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.

And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.

  

Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What use

to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.

So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,

it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be 1/2 
of what the chart states.) 

  

I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very 
simple 

process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)

Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the original 
5/8-4 

Acme screw on my 200.

And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon. 

OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.

  

NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making 
furniture.

and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large 
spindles, But when 

I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that the 
pitches were just to 

big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did not 
look right, It was

almost to large for the small spindle.

  

Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.  Years 
back We (a number of 

people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch so you 
could get a finer/cleaner

looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.  

As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.

I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.  
https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
 

I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all my 
original parts and it is a easy 

replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.

  

Here are some photo's.

  

Please let my know what you think about this idea.

  

C.A.G. 

  

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George 
 wrote: 

  

  

Hello Everyone.

  

"Well" I works! ;-)

Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on the 

test that I have done today.

  

This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.

And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.

  

Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What use

to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.

So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,

it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be 1/2 
of what the chart states.) 

  

I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very 
simple 

process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)

Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the original 
5/8-4 

Acme screw on my 200.

And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon. 

OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.

  

NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making 
furniture.

and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large 
spindles, But when 

I started working on the small 

RE: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

[bulkeley]

Curt you might find this helpful when I was playing around with

The possibility of 8TPI leadscrews on our legacy mills

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 12:42 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

 

Hi Tim

 

Yes I do own a 5/8-8 Acme tap.  Its the easiest part of the job.  just drill a 
1/2" hole on the plastic.

Then tap it, cut in half, and then sand to fit, once fitting is done just drill 
a 5/16" hole and tap 3/8" for the set-screw. 

Its the same process for cutting the 5/8-4.  Supper EASY. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 10:20:13 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hey Curt,

 

Super excited to see your results for sure. I may convert my Revo for the pen 
and game call turning. 

Just keep us posted on the results and any adjustments you end up doing to get 
it to work. 

I see no reason it will not work. Yes you will have to explain how you threaded 
that split nut too. I'd assume you have a

tap like many of us do for the larger one. Except you have 8 TPI instead of the 
4 TPI




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:50 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Hello Everyone.

 

"Well" I works! ;-)

Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on the 

test that I have done today.

 

This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.

And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.

 

Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What use

to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.

So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,

it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be 1/2 
of what the chart states.) 

 

I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very 
simple 

process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)

Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the original 
5/8-4 

Acme screw on my 200.

And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon. 

OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.

 

NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making 
furniture.

and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large 
spindles, But when 

I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that the 
pitches were just to 

big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did not 
look right, It was

almost to large for the small spindle.

 

Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.  Years 
back We (a number of 

people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch so you 
could get a finer/cleaner

looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.  

As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.

I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.   

 
https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
 

I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all my 
original parts and it is a easy 

replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.

 

Here are some photo's.

 

Please let my know what you think about this idea.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hello Everyone.

 

"Well" I works! ;-)

Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on the 

test that I have done today.

 

This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.

And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.

 

Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What use

to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.

So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,

it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be 1/2 
of what the chart states.) 

 

I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very 
simple 

process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)

Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the original 
5/8-4 

Acme screw on my 200.

And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon. 

OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.

 

NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making 
furniture.

and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large 
spindles, But when

Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

[Tim Ziegler]

Yup thats what we hope for. More playing to do lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 9:40 PM Ccm Ccm  wrote:

> Nice job Curt that should give you a better selection of pitches for small
> work
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>> "Well" I works! ;-)
>> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
>> the
>> test that I have done today.
>>
>> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
>> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>>
>> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
>> use
>> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same
>> distance.
>> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
>> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now
>> be 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>>
>> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
>> simple
>> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
>> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
>> original 5/8-4
>> Acme screw on my 200.
>> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
>> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>>
>> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
>> furniture.
>> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for
>> large spindles, But when
>> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
>> the pitches were just to
>> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch,
>> did not look right, It was
>> almost to large for the small spindle.
>>
>> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
>> Years back We (a number of
>> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
>> so you could get a finer/cleaner
>> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
>> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
>> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
>> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
>>
>> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
>> my original parts and it is a easy
>> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>>
>> Here are some photo's.
>>
>> Please let my know what you think about this idea.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George <
>> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>> "Well" I works! ;-)
>> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
>> the
>> test that I have done today.
>>
>> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
>> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>>
>> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
>> use
>> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same
>> distance.
>> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
>> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now
>> be 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>>
>> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
>> simple
>> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
>> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
>> original 5/8-4
>> Acme screw on my 200.
>> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
>> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>>
>> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
>> furniture.
>> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for
>> large spindles, But when
>> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
>> the pitches were just to
>> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch,
>> did not look right, It was
>> almost to large for the small spindle.
>>
>> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
>> Years back We (a number of
>> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
>> so you could get a finer/cleaner
>> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
>> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
>> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
>> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
>>
>> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
>> my original parts and it is a easy
>> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>>
>> Here are some photo's.
>>

Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

[Tim Ziegler]

yup for sure and so glad it went that well.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 9:42 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Tim
>
> Yes I do own a 5/8-8 Acme tap.  Its the easiest part of the job.  just
> drill a 1/2" hole on the plastic.
> Then tap it, cut in half, and then sand to fit, once fitting is done just
> drill a 5/16" hole and tap 3/8" for the set-screw.
> Its the same process for cutting the 5/8-4.  Supper EASY. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 10:20:13 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Curt,
>
> Super excited to see your results for sure. I may convert my Revo for the
> pen and game call turning.
> Just keep us posted on the results and any adjustments you end up doing to
> get it to work.
> I see no reason it will not work. Yes you will have to explain how you
> threaded that split nut too. I'd assume you have a
> tap like many of us do for the larger one. Except you have 8 TPI instead
> of the 4 TPI
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:50 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
> the pitches were just to
> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did
> not look right, It was
> almost to large for the small spindle.
>
> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
> Years back We (a number of
> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
> so you could get a finer/cleaner
> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
>
> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
> my original parts and it is a easy
> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>
> Here are some photo's.
>
> Please let my know what you think about this idea.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I fou

Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

[Ccm Ccm]

Nice job Curt that should give you a better selection of pitches for small
work

On Monday, April 10, 2023, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
> the pitches were just to
> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did
> not look right, It was
> almost to large for the small spindle.
>
> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
> Years back We (a number of
> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
> so you could get a finer/cleaner
> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-
> screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
> my original parts and it is a easy
> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>
> Here are some photo's.
>
> Please let my know what you think about this idea.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
> the pitches were just to
> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did
> not look right, It was
> almost to large for the small spindle.
>
> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
> Years back We (a number of
> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
> so you could get a finer/cleaner
> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-
> screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
> my original parts and it is a easy
> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>
> Here are some photo's.
>
> Please let my know what you think about this idea.
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

[Tim Ziegler]

Great thanks for that Curt.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 8:20 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Here are the two lead screws together with there slip nut assembly.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:50:12 PM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
> the pitches were just to
> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did
> not look right, It was
> almost to large for the small spindle.
>
> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
> Years back We (a number of
> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
> so you could get a finer/cleaner
> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
>
> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
> my original parts and it is a easy
> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>
> Here are some photo's.
>
> Please let my know what you think about this idea.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
> the pitches were just to
> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did
> not look right, It was
> almost to large for the small spindle.
>
> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
> Years back We (a number of
> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
> so you could get a finer/cleaner
> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
>
> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
> my original parts and it is a easy
> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>
> Here are some photo's.
>
> Please let my know what you think about this idea.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> --
> You received thi

Re: Replacing the Legacy's lead screw

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Curt,

Super excited to see your results for sure. I may convert my Revo for the
pen and game call turning.
Just keep us posted on the results and any adjustments you end up doing to
get it to work.
I see no reason it will not work. Yes you will have to explain how you
threaded that split nut too. I'd assume you have a
tap like many of us do for the larger one. Except you have 8 TPI instead of
the 4 TPI

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:50 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
> the pitches were just to
> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did
> not look right, It was
> almost to large for the small spindle.
>
> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
> Years back We (a number of
> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
> so you could get a finer/cleaner
> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
>
> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
> my original parts and it is a easy
> replacement. So I can replace it any time I choose.
>
> Here are some photo's.
>
> Please let my know what you think about this idea.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 08:34:21 PM EDT, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> "Well" I works! ;-)
> Before We go to far, Its not been fully tested yet. but it dose work on
> the
> test that I have done today.
>
> This morning, I started by removing my 5/8-4 Acme screw on my Legacy 200.
> And replacing it with a 5/8-8 Acme screw.
>
> Now what this is suppose to do is,  It slows down the pitch by 1/2. What
> use
> to give me 4 rev. pre inch, it now take 8 turns to cover the same distance.
> So by using this idea, my smallest pitch will be being 1/2"  on the chart,
> it will now be 1/4". (basically what ever the chart states, it will now be
> 1/2 of what the chart states.)
>
> I started off my day, by making a new slip nut for the 5/8-8 screw, (very
> simple
> process, We can go over the process latter if anyone likes.)
> Then I cut the new Acme screw to size, turned the ends to match the
> original 5/8-4
> Acme screw on my 200.
> And then putting the hole machine back together, in the afternoon.
> OVER ALL it was a very quick job to do.
>
> NOW the reason why I did this?  The Legacy was Originally made for making
> furniture.
> and other lathe type of work, The 4 threads per inch was prefect for large
> spindles, But when
> I started working on the small side of things with my 200, I found that
> the pitches were just to
> big. making a small rope on a Magnifying glass handle, The 1/2" pitch, did
> not look right, It was
> almost to large for the small spindle.
>
> Now this idea is NOT new, But it is the first time that I have tried it.
> Years back We (a number of
> people in this group) tried to find a better way to make a smaller pitch
> so you could get a finer/cleaner
> looking cut when using the drive motor and the Legacy's gearing.
> As a general rule of thumb the more cuts pre rev. the cleaner the cut.
> I found this Acme screw on Mc Master Carr web page. for  $11.00.
> https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/acme-lead-screws-and-nuts/?s=acme+screws
>
> I figured? what did I have to loose if it did not work?  I still have all
> my origina

Re: Legacy Maverick 3x5 CNC $13,000

[John Hennen]

No that is not a 4x8. List price on that is 19k right now, at the time of
purchase it was 17k

The machine in the picture has a 3hp liquid cooled spindle on it. Only the
3x5 uses that spindle.  The 4x8 uses a 6hp air cooled spindle. The 50k
version is also an auto tool change system. You would see 7 tool holders
across the back of the machine as well if it was the 50k model.

For the past 23 years I have worked there so I have a pretty intimate
knowledge of these systems.



On Sun, Apr 9, 2023, 5:18 AM Joseph Greenleaf  wrote:

> Thanks, John. I think they have a full sheet (4x8) model that is around
> $50k.
>
> Joe G
>
> On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 11:25 PM John Hennen  wrote:
>
>> A new one is 19k
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2023, 12:42 AM Joseph Greenleaf 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You’re welcome. I think that’s about ¼ the price of a new one. It looks
>>> like new.
>>>
>>> Joe G
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 11:24 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>
 Wow! that quite a machine!
 Thanks for sharing.

 Please don't laugh at me, but I would love to get my hands on one
 of those machines, Not for the CNC, but to re-work this machine back
 into a manual machine.
 The quality/ Linear bearings and robust steel frame, would put to shame
 any earlier Legacy manual machines.
 That would be a project that I would love to do. ;-)

 C.A.G.

 On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 12:07:18 AM EDT, Joseph Greenleaf <
 solastob...@gmail.com> wrote:


 This is on Facebook Marketplace for SE Texas, Columbus, Texas, area, in
 case anyone is interested.

 Joe G.


 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1169675033720339/?mibextid=6ojiHh


 On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 8:50 PM Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:

 Hey Mike that is super cool that you are doing that. I am sure those
 that get the honor to use them are
 very appreciative. Your really doing some very beautiful work too. I
 must say I am impressed.
 Keep up the passion and the great work. Soon you will be selling them
 on Etsy or Amazon lol.
 Hope you have a Blessed Easter Weekend.

 Kind Regards,

 Timothy J. Ziegler
 Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
 14171 160th Ave.
 
 Foreston MN 56330
 

 320-294-5798 shop
 320-630-2243 cell


 On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 8:36 PM Mike Newman 
 wrote:

 I have been learning a lot on the LOM since it came home with me.  Some
 of the sticks I have made that are part of the learning process had been
 sitting in the corner of my shop.  I decided to talk to the director of a
 local nature center that has hiking trails and offered to donate walking
 sticks for visitors to use while they are walking around the trails.  I put
 together a quick display stand and simple sign explaining the concept.  I
 delivered it Friday and they were pretty excited.

 [image: lending stick holder.jpg]

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