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Re: checkering videos

2023-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler

Great concept Dan.
Well thought out.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:30 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> For sure, Milt, I would prep the wood if working on a fine piece.  As Tim
> pointed out, I'm working on scrap to test the principle of pushing the REVO
> to this extent.
>
> This bit is as sharp as I know how to make one.  It's a 60° cutter reground
> to an infinite point, then a relief grind behind the flat cutting surface
> sneaking
> up on the cutting edge of the flat. Then two strokes on a fine Arkansas
> stone
> at an angle to relieve the tip.  Once that's done, the now off center
> cutting tip
> "wobbles" about 0.0001" so it doesn't just drag along. I learned to do
> this
> working in the tool and die department at Jostens where extremely fine
> detail was cut into the die blocks before they were hardened.  It's not a
> sheer
> down cut which would minimize the fuzzing, but that wasn't a problem in
> metal!
>
> The hand  checkering tools finish out the cut at 90°, so the diamonds are
> low and sharp. A 90° might do well enough in a prepared surface that touch
> up wouldn't be required.
>
> I set the depth using feeler gauge strips under the depth stop, but it's
> real
> hard to tell when that sharp a point is at the surface.  Yes, I probably
> was
> cutting too deeply, at least in places. I found backlash in the driving
> spur,
> so that didn't help.
>
> Preparing an oak blank for 72 divisions of 18 LPI.
>
> DanK
> On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 12:28:59 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps try cutting not so deep also soaking the wood in oil for a few
>> hours before cutting can greatly reduce chipping and tearing I do that
>>
>> For some wood threads
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 17, 2023 9:15 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Re: checkering videos
>>
>>
>>
>> Made tiny tiny chips today.  Really bad choice of wood.  Didn't think it
>> would
>>
>> crumble like it has. My other blanks are scrap oak pieces, and they might
>> be
>>
>> as bad.  I'm going to adjust to a verified common checkering pattern of
>> 18 LPI
>>
>> selected from the range of available checkering patterns and tools that
>> run
>>
>> from 16 -32 LPI. And reduce the number of starts to 72 which gets me in
>> the
>>
>> same ballpark of work diameter, which my target is about 1 1/4" give or
>> take.
>>
>> This intersection piece should clean up pretty well.  It's just real
>> fuzzy.
>>
>>
>>
>> The blue circled area is what I worked on for cleaning up.  It goes fast
>> and
>>
>> the ridges are crisp in that area.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lessons:  1. A progress chart of hole positions is crucial to success.
>> 2. And I am
>>
>> pushing the limits of the REVO rigidity because you can see every little
>>
>> inconsistency produced by tiny flexing in Z axis. 3. Choose better wood.
>> Machine
>>
>> cutting is different than hand cutting from scratch.  But this, as
>> tedious as it is, is still
>>
>> much faster to get accurate layout, me thinks.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also restricted the data input for checkering lines per inch to what is
>> available for
>>
>> touch up tools.  It seemed like a good idea at the time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Time to think of Christmas trinkets.
>>
>> DanK
>>
>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 10:43:05 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Dan
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 8:55 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The next video shows how I move the vernier arm after exhausting the span
>> it offers.  80 starts is a
>>
>> good example to use because it requires the half degree resolution of the
>> vernier.  So I have done
>>
>> the first nine passes as this picture shows. No touchup on osage orange.
>> Not the best choice.
>>
>>   It looks rougher than it really is because the fuzz makes the cuts
>>
>> look irregular.  It is a bit due to flexing in the machine, but should
>> clean up nicely with checkering
>>
>> tools.  Which reminds me.  My checkering tools are 18 lines per inch...so
>> don't ask my why I chose
>>
>> 21 lines for this sample!  It's because.well, you know.
>>
>> Now to move the vernier
>> 
>> to the next step.
>>
>> DanK
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 9:45:41 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> The first video is showing how I adjust the vernier positioning chart for
>> the 80 starts I'm using on the
>>
>> sample checkering. I suggest doing a print

Re: LOM Purchase

2023-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler

Thanks Jeff, yes your about right.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 8:12 AM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Hi Ryan,
>
> I have a rotary table as well (with the standard hand crank) but am still
> looking for a drive shaft if you have one available.
>
> New from Legacy the rotary table accessory (hand crank) was about $325 (in
> 2008). I have seen them out there used from $150 - $200.
>
> [image: IMG_5275]
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2023, at 9:01 AM, RYAN JURGENS  wrote:
>
> Can anyone here in the USA tell what is a reasonable price for a rotary
> table for the LOM?
>
> I have one, but I use it from time to time on various projects, but I have
> other ways to do what I do on it.
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
> Sent from AT Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 7:04 AM, wm.o.he...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
>
> I am interested in a couple of the long rails if they can be shipped.
>
>
>
> Bill Henry
>
> Baltimore
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2023 10:45 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: LOM Purchase
>
>
>
> OK, that sounds good, I have my eyes on some gears for Arkady, and then I
> want the small parts guide.
>
> Now if we can get others to see what they would want and are willing to
> pay?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 9:35 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
>
> If it works out, I would be interested in the vertical vise. (From the
> left side under the machine, it’s the 2nd item going to the right)
>
>
>
> I can’t see what’s else is in the box but maybe a rotary table drive shaft?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hey, I have legacy very close to me I would buy if I can part out
>
> and sell the parts. Anyone interested in anything on it?
>
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7041390955892736/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A121e9fe7-94d8-4ea9-b548-a4b6617ea9a3
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: LOM Purchase

2023-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler

Hey Ryan I will look up what I've paid for mine. I am currently working on
purchasing a 1500 to part out which includes the Rotary table.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 8:01 AM RYAN JURGENS 
wrote:

> Can anyone here in the USA tell what is a reasonable price for a rotary
> table for the LOM?
>
> I have one, but I use it from time to time on various projects, but I have
> other ways to do what I do on it.
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
> Sent from AT Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 7:04 AM, wm.o.he...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
>
> I am interested in a couple of the long rails if they can be shipped.
>
>
>
> Bill Henry
>
> Baltimore
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2023 10:45 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: LOM Purchase
>
>
>
> OK, that sounds good, I have my eyes on some gears for Arkady, and then I
> want the small parts guide.
>
> Now if we can get others to see what they would want and are willing to
> pay?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 9:35 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
>
> If it works out, I would be interested in the vertical vise. (From the
> left side under the machine, it’s the 2nd item going to the right)
>
>
>
> I can’t see what’s else is in the box but maybe a rotary table drive shaft?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hey, I have legacy very close to me I would buy if I can part out
>
> and sell the parts. Anyone interested in anything on it?
>
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7041390955892736/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A121e9fe7-94d8-4ea9-b548-a4b6617ea9a3
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: LOM Purchase

2023-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler

Sounds good Curt.
Will just see where we can go with it.
We have to establish prices agreeable to both parties.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 7:32 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> "Well" Tim.
> It looks like you started the ball rolling.
>
> after you get this mill, and sort out all the pieces left over after.
> You will have to make an inventory and let us know what left.
>
> I am always looking of any extra small parts like, drive HUB's. and the
> left and right directional gears ,for my machines. So I guess you can add
> me to that list as well. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 08:04:23 AM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> I am interested in a couple of the long rails if they can be shipped.
>
>
>
> Bill Henry
>
> Baltimore
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2023 10:45 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: LOM Purchase
>
>
>
> OK, that sounds good, I have my eyes on some gears for Arkady, and then I
> want the small parts guide.
>
> Now if we can get others to see what they would want and are willing to
> pay?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 9:35 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
>
> If it works out, I would be interested in the vertical vise. (From the
> left side under the machine, it’s the 2nd item going to the right)
>
>
>
> I can’t see what’s else is in the box but maybe a rotary table drive shaft?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hey, I have legacy very close to me I would buy if I can part out
>
> and sell the parts. Anyone interested in anything on it?
>
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7041390955892736/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A121e9fe7-94d8-4ea9-b548-a4b6617ea9a3
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
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Re: LOM Purchase

2023-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler

Hey Bill,
I can get pretty much anything to ship with the company I use.
we will need to come up with a fair price, so think about what you're
willing to pay.
We can go from there. I will check on prices on my end too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 7:04 AM  wrote:

> I am interested in a couple of the long rails if they can be shipped.
>
>
>
> Bill Henry
>
> Baltimore
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 15, 2023 10:45 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: LOM Purchase
>
>
>
> OK, that sounds good, I have my eyes on some gears for Arkady, and then I
> want the small parts guide.
>
> Now if we can get others to see what they would want and are willing to
> pay?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 9:35 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
>
> If it works out, I would be interested in the vertical vise. (From the
> left side under the machine, it’s the 2nd item going to the right)
>
>
>
> I can’t see what’s else is in the box but maybe a rotary table drive shaft?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hey, I have legacy very close to me I would buy if I can part out
>
> and sell the parts. Anyone interested in anything on it?
>
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7041390955892736/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A121e9fe7-94d8-4ea9-b548-a4b6617ea9a3
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
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Re: LOM Purchase

2023-10-17 Thread Tim Ziegler

Sounds good Cole,
We need to come up with a agreeable price and move forward.
Basically I'm trying to sell most all the machine in parts.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 6:50 AM Cole Andrews 
wrote:

> I would be interested in a thin stock support or follower. Thank you
> for being so considerate.
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 5:50 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> >
> > Good morning Ken,
> >
> > I will do some looking back and see what they have been going for and be
> reasonable for you.
> > Shipping will be calculated upon packaging and weight of course.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Timothy J. Ziegler
> > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> > Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> > 14171 160th Ave.
> > Foreston MN 56330
> >
> > 320-294-5798 shop
> > 320-630-2243 cell
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 5:28 AM Ken and Diana 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>I would be interested in the rotary table, if the price is right.
> (reasonable)
> >> Thanks for offering to do this.
> >> I am located in Pa.
> >> Ken
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 10:28 PM Tim Ziegler 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey, I have legacy very close to me I would buy if I can part out
> >>> and sell the parts. Anyone interested in anything on it?
> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7041390955892736/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A121e9fe7-94d8-4ea9-b548-a4b6617ea9a3
> >>>
> >>> Kind Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Timothy J. Ziegler
> >>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> >>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> >>> 14171 160th Ave.
> >>> Foreston MN 56330
> >>>
> >>> 320-294-5798 shop
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RE: LOM Purchase

2023-10-17 Thread bulkeley

I agree that is what think as a very fair price around $150

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 12:13 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Cc: wm.o.he...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: LOM Purchase

 

Hi Ryan, 

 

I have a rotary table as well (with the standard hand crank) but am still 
looking for a drive shaft if you have one available. 

 

New from Legacy the rotary table accessory (hand crank) was about $325 (in 
2008). I have seen them out there used from $150 - $200.

 



 

Jeff from Connecticut

jtrichmo...@gmail.com  

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 17, 2023, at 9:01 AM, RYAN JURGENS mailto:rtjurg...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

Can anyone here in the USA tell what is a reasonable price for a rotary table 
for the LOM?

 

I have one, but I use it from time to time on various projects, but I have 
other ways to do what I do on it.

 

Ryan

 

 

Sent from AT 

  Yahoo Mail on Android

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 7:04 AM, wm.o.he...@gmail.com 
 

mailto:wm.o.he...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I am interested in a couple of the long rails if they can be shipped.

 

Bill Henry

Baltimore

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2023 10:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: LOM Purchase

 

OK, that sounds good, I have my eyes on some gears for Arkady, and then I want 
the small parts guide. 

Now if we can get others to see what they would want and are willing to pay?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 9:35 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Tim, 

 

If it works out, I would be interested in the vertical vise. (From the left 
side under the machine, it’s the 2nd item going to the right)

 

I can’t see what’s else is in the box but maybe a rotary table drive shaft?

 

Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone

 

On Oct 15, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hey, I have legacy very close to me I would buy if I can part out 

and sell the parts. Anyone interested in anything on it?

 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7041390955892736/?ref=search 

 
_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A121e9fe7-94d8-4ea9-b548-a4b6617ea9a3




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

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Re: checkering videos

2023-10-17 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com

For sure, Milt, I would prep the wood if working on a fine piece.  As Tim 
pointed out, I'm working on scrap to test the principle of pushing the REVO
to this extent.  

This bit is as sharp as I know how to make one.  It's a 60° cutter reground
to an infinite point, then a relief grind behind the flat cutting surface 
sneaking
up on the cutting edge of the flat. Then two strokes on a fine Arkansas 
stone
at an angle to relieve the tip.  Once that's done, the now off center 
cutting tip 
"wobbles" about 0.0001" so it doesn't just drag along. I learned to do this 
working in the tool and die department at Jostens where extremely fine 
detail was cut into the die blocks before they were hardened.  It's not a 
sheer
down cut which would minimize the fuzzing, but that wasn't a problem in
metal!

The hand  checkering tools finish out the cut at 90°, so the diamonds are 
low and sharp. A 90° might do well enough in a prepared surface that touch 
up wouldn't be required.

I set the depth using feeler gauge strips under the depth stop, but it's 
real 
hard to tell when that sharp a point is at the surface.  Yes, I probably 
was 
cutting too deeply, at least in places. I found backlash in the driving 
spur,
so that didn't help.

Preparing an oak blank for 72 divisions of 18 LPI.  

DanK
On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 12:28:59 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
wrote:

> Perhaps try cutting not so deep also soaking the wood in oil for a few 
> hours before cutting can greatly reduce chipping and tearing I do that 
>
> For some wood threads
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 17, 2023 9:15 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: checkering videos
>
>  
>
> Made tiny tiny chips today.  Really bad choice of wood.  Didn't think it 
> would 
>
> crumble like it has. My other blanks are scrap oak pieces, and they might 
> be 
>
> as bad.  I'm going to adjust to a verified common checkering pattern of 18 
> LPI
>
> selected from the range of available checkering patterns and tools that 
> run 
>
> from 16 -32 LPI. And reduce the number of starts to 72 which gets me in 
> the 
>
> same ballpark of work diameter, which my target is about 1 1/4" give or 
> take.
>
> This intersection piece should clean up pretty well.  It's just real fuzzy.
>
>
>
> The blue circled area is what I worked on for cleaning up.  It goes fast 
> and
>
> the ridges are crisp in that area.
>
>  
>
> Lessons:  1. A progress chart of hole positions is crucial to success.  2. 
> And I am
>
> pushing the limits of the REVO rigidity because you can see every little 
>
> inconsistency produced by tiny flexing in Z axis. 3. Choose better wood. 
> Machine
>
> cutting is different than hand cutting from scratch.  But this, as tedious 
> as it is, is still
>
> much faster to get accurate layout, me thinks.
>
>  
>
> I also restricted the data input for checkering lines per inch to what is 
> available for 
>
> touch up tools.  It seemed like a good idea at the time. 
>
>  
>
> Time to think of Christmas trinkets.
>
> DanK  
>
> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 10:43:05 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Thanks Dan
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 8:55 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
> The next video shows how I move the vernier arm after exhausting the span 
> it offers.  80 starts is a 
>
> good example to use because it requires the half degree resolution of the 
> vernier.  So I have done
>
> the first nine passes as this picture shows. No touchup on osage orange.  
> Not the best choice.
>
>   It looks rougher than it really is because the fuzz makes the cuts
>
> look irregular.  It is a bit due to flexing in the machine, but should 
> clean up nicely with checkering
>
> tools.  Which reminds me.  My checkering tools are 18 lines per inch...so 
> don't ask my why I chose
>
> 21 lines for this sample!  It's because.well, you know.
>
> Now to move the vernier 
> 
>  
> to the next step.
>
> DanK
>
>  
>
> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 9:45:41 PM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> The first video is showing how I adjust the vernier positioning chart for 
> the 80 starts I'm using on the
>
> sample checkering. I suggest doing a print preview.  "File>Print Preview" 
> and it will
>
> show you what to expect. You can print it from the preview or go back to 
> "File>Print" from
>
> the main menu. 
>
> Here is the first video 
> 
>  
> which will be available in a little bit until I take it down for the space.
>
>  
>
> DanK
>
> On

Re: LOM Purchase

2023-10-17 Thread Jeff Richmond

Hi Ryan, I have a rotary table as well (with the standard hand crank) but am still looking for a drive shaft if you have one available. New from Legacy the rotary table accessory (hand crank) was about $325 (in 2008). I have seen them out there used from $150 - $200.Jeff from Connecticutjtrichmo...@gmail.comSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 17, 2023, at 9:01 AM, RYAN JURGENS  wrote:Can anyone here in the USA tell what is a reasonable price for a rotary table for the LOM?I have one, but I use it from time to time on various projects, but I have other ways to do what I do on it.RyanSent from AT Yahoo Mail on AndroidOn Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 7:04 AM, wm.o.he...@gmail.com wrote:   I am interested in a couple of the long rails if they can be shipped.  Bill HenryBaltimore  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Sunday, October 15, 2023 10:45 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: LOM Purchase  OK, that sounds good, I have my eyes on some gears for Arkady, and then I want the small parts guide. Now if we can get others to see what they would want and are willing to pay?Kind Regards,  Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330  320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell    On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 9:35 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:Hi Tim,   If it works out, I would be interested in the vertical vise. (From the left side under the machine, it’s the 2nd item going to the right)  I can’t see what’s else is in the box but maybe a rotary table drive shaft?  Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 15, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Hey, I have legacy very close to me I would buy if I can part out and sell the parts. Anyone interested in anything on it?  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7041390955892736/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A121e9fe7-94d8-4ea9-b548-a4b6617ea9a3Kind Regards,  Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330  320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGeNWLAwBHAZ6RZ%3Dfuq0tgAp1%2B1rF-05MLWwf_x%2BCBx9Q%40mail.gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/8AB2C313-2AD6-4FE6-B8C2-9DA4302529AE%40gmail.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLEdkk4GRvhAMFiomV8ztndLtwhasGVhCxw%3DrBcvHQcYiA%40mail.gmail.com.

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RE: LOM Purchase

2023-10-17 Thread RYAN JURGENS

Can anyone here in the USA tell what is a reasonable price for a rotary table 
for the LOM?
I have one, but I use it from time to time on various projects, but I have 
other ways to do what I do on it.
Ryan



Sent from AT Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 7:04 AM, wm.o.he...@gmail.com 
wrote:   
I am interested in a couple of the long rails if they can be shipped.

  

Bill Henry

Baltimore

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2023 10:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: LOM Purchase

  

OK, that sounds good, I have my eyes on some gears for Arkady, and then I want 
the small parts guide. 

Now if we can get others to see what they would want and are willing to pay?




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 9:35 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:


Hi Tim, 

  

If it works out, I would be interested in the vertical vise. (From the left 
side under the machine, it’s the 2nd item going to the right)

  

I can’t see what’s else is in the box but maybe a rotary table drive shaft?

  

Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone






On Oct 15, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:





Hey, I have legacy very close to me I would buy if I can part out 

and sell the parts. Anyone interested in anything on it?

  

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7041390955892736/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A121e9fe7-94d8-4ea9-b548-a4b6617ea9a3




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

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Re: LOM Purchase

2023-10-17 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

 "Well" Tim.It looks like you started the ball rolling.
after you get this mill, and sort out all the pieces left over after.You will 
have to make an inventory and let us know what left.
I am always looking of any extra small parts like, drive HUB's. and the left 
and right directional gears ,for my machines. So I guess you can add me to that 
list as well. ;-)
C.A.G. 

On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 08:04:23 AM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
I am interested in a couple of the long rails if they can be shipped.

  

Bill Henry

Baltimore

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2023 10:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: LOM Purchase

  

OK, that sounds good, I have my eyes on some gears for Arkady, and then I want 
the small parts guide. 

Now if we can get others to see what they would want and are willing to pay?




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 9:35 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:


Hi Tim, 

  

If it works out, I would be interested in the vertical vise. (From the left 
side under the machine, it’s the 2nd item going to the right)

  

I can’t see what’s else is in the box but maybe a rotary table drive shaft?

  

Jeff from Connecticut 
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On Oct 15, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:





Hey, I have legacy very close to me I would buy if I can part out 

and sell the parts. Anyone interested in anything on it?

  

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Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

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RE: LOM Purchase

2023-10-17 Thread wm.o.henry

I am interested in a couple of the long rails if they can be shipped.

 

Bill Henry

Baltimore

 

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 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2023 10:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: LOM Purchase

 

OK, that sounds good, I have my eyes on some gears for Arkady, and then I want 
the small parts guide. 

Now if we can get others to see what they would want and are willing to pay?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 9:35 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Tim, 

 

If it works out, I would be interested in the vertical vise. (From the left 
side under the machine, it’s the 2nd item going to the right)

 

I can’t see what’s else is in the box but maybe a rotary table drive shaft?

 

Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 15, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hey, I have legacy very close to me I would buy if I can part out 

and sell the parts. Anyone interested in anything on it?

 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7041390955892736/?ref=search 

 
_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A121e9fe7-94d8-4ea9-b548-a4b6617ea9a3




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

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Re: LOM Purchase

2023-10-17 Thread Cole Andrews

I would be interested in a thin stock support or follower. Thank you
for being so considerate.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 5:50 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Good morning Ken,
>
> I will do some looking back and see what they have been going for and be 
> reasonable for you.
> Shipping will be calculated upon packaging and weight of course.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 5:28 AM Ken and Diana  wrote:
>>
>>I would be interested in the rotary table, if the price is right. 
>> (reasonable)
>> Thanks for offering to do this.
>> I am located in Pa.
>> Ken
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 10:28 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey, I have legacy very close to me I would buy if I can part out
>>> and sell the parts. Anyone interested in anything on it?
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7041390955892736/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A121e9fe7-94d8-4ea9-b548-a4b6617ea9a3
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
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