Re: A 1200 asking $1750 in Des Moines, Iowa Loaded with accessories

[MACSWAG]

Hi,is it still for sale,  MAC

On Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:54:09 PM UTC+1, Begat wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> Here's another 1200 for sale this one in Des Moines, Iowa asking $1750.  
>
> Here's what the original invoice for the Legacy lists:
> 1 - L1200 Legacy Ornamental Mill, Model 1200 $2,850
> 1 - LRTABLE1000 Rotary Table $325
> 1 - LVISEVERT10 Vertical Vise, 10 inch $119
> 1 - V025 Training, custom molding
> 1 - LCIRCLECNTR Circle cutting Center
> 1 - LTEMPFOL Template follower upgrade w/removeable stylus pin
> 1 - TS001 Templates, Swan Neck
> 1 - TC11001 Clock Swan Neck, outside cut
> 1 - TC11002 Clock Swan Neck detail cut
> 1 - LVISEHORIZ10 Horizontal Vice, 10 inch
> 1 - LLINEARMILL Linear milling system
> 1 - LMOBILITY4IN Mobility 4 inch casters 900, 1200, 1800 LS $65
> TOTAL: $3,359
>
> There are nine special bits and a regular spiral bit as shown in the 
> attached photo. All are 1/2 shanks. They are made by Magnate and you can 
> see the variety at 
> http://www.magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showCategory&theID=23
> The ones included are labeled as follows:
> 7551 Barley Twist, 1 inch dia
> 1173 Side Fce-Inlay, 7/8 inch dia
> 6053 Side Fluting, 3/32 radius
> 2453 Side shallow flute, 7/8 inch dia
> 2457 Side shallow cutting 
> 2704 Bottom cleaning bit, 1 1/4 inch dia
> 7672 Side Reeding 1 1/8 inch
> 7678 Side Reeding 1 3/16 inch
> 7673 Side Reeding 1 3/8 inch
> Spiral cut router bit
>

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Re: It Gets No Better: A 1500 in Altamonte Spring, Fl for $500

[MACSWAG]

On Sunday, October 20, 2013 10:43:29 AM UTC+1, Begat wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> There is a 1500 with a motor for sell in Altamonte Springs, Florida for 
> $500.  Has manuals etc.  Too far from me otherwise I would be there today.
>
> http://orlando.craigslist.org/tls/4139720699.html
>
Hi Begat ,I have been a lurker now for sometime,I had A revo once but sold 
it and went away for awhile after losing my dear wife to the big C.this 
unit is on Craigs list and I have tried for a few like it but never get any 
answers,I think their policy cuts out non local buyer contact,have you any 
ideas of what to do to get in contact with the vendor,I will pay all costs 
and dues,this is to help a young relative back into civvies,not all of him 
made it back from Helmland prov.please help if you can,  MAC.

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REVO SALE

[MACSWAG]

Hi everybody, It's been a long time since I have posted,nice to see
all the old familiar faces are still very busy, The time has come
owing to a bereavement and now ill health,sic.Arthritis and
emphysema,I have decided to sell off my tools and go find some
sunshine,

For sale is my REVO AND TURNTABLE AND THE ROUTER TABLE ATTACHMENT AND
ALL THE GEARS YOU CAN THINK OF ALSO ALL THE CUTTERS TO NUMEROUS TO
QUOTE,ALSO DOGS AND REVERSE GEARS AND TURNTABLE
UNIVERSAL LINK,ALSO THE PEN MANDREL KIT ,UNUSED,AND TIM'S
RECIPROCATOR,A MUST FOR ANY REVO OWNER,ALSO A ELECTRIC GISMO FOR
SLOWING DOWN AN ELECTRIC DRILL ATTACHMENT THAT I USE TO POWER THE LEAD
SCREW,SAVES A LOT OF WINDING,THIS ALSO COMES WITH A VERY GOOD
ROUTER,STILL ATTACHED,A
SPARE CUT NUT ,ALL THE SPANNERS AND TOOLS,AND TWO DESIGN PADS AND
THEIR PLASTIC TEMPLATESAND ANYTHING ELSE I COME ACROSS IN MY WORKSHOP,
I will post a photo soon as I can clear my w/shop and get a nice sunny
day to put it all on a table outside,I'm sad to see it go but it needs
a younger enthusiastic man to get a lot more pleasure from it, as I
say I just want to get away for a wee while,this would probably be of
more interest to someone in BRITAIN,although I will post anywhere in
the world but it would be pricey as it will all weigh quite a bit and
would best to be picked up from my home in the new forest area,e.g.the
south coast, it is difficult to put a price on all this gear,you can't
buy it anymore, so  I'm asking for £ 1200.please, I will not split it
up as the value is in the total lot and will enable someone to start
rite away producing the lovely wood work they want to make,so come on
lads shake the old baccy tin and count your pennies,I'm also nearly
deaf now,legacy from working in heavy industry,so I can't talk on the
phone,
so here is my E/MAIL. ADD.   (sandra.dill...@virginmedia.com )I know I
shouldn't make my add public but I have no choice,don't get old chaps
it's no fun,hoping to hear from you guys soon, MAC.

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Re: just me being missing - rotary table inlays

[MACSWAG]

Very informative Tim,I'm sure a lot of people are reading this and
thinking Hmmm,I also have a lathe and do a lot of small finials,mainly
tapering four start hollow ones in mahogany or some other hard wood,it
needs to be hard or the bines just crack,very tricky but achievable
with patience and practice,and they do enhance a job very much,I'm
going to buy some Mother of pearl inlay from South Korea,I want to
make a couple of mementos boxes for some freinds who have been most
kind,keep posting always read you,MAC.

On Sep 15, 10:40 pm, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Creating bullseye type patterns with inlays is one of the types of details 
> I've been thinking about.  Inlaying contrasting pieces of wood on the rotary 
> table and carving shapes into the surfaces of the pieces. Basically like this 
> sectional view of a box top.
>
> I know it can be done, but I have not seen any of us do this yet.  I have a 
> couple clever ideas on how to make the pocket of an inlay the right size.  
> I've been holding back since I don't have any photos. Just words, ideas and 
> partial experience.  
>
> I'm also surprised to see no one has made small finials that can be applied 
> to boxes.  The biggest challenge I see in working small is work holding.  
> Carpet tape and turners tape has it's limits.  We need to get much more 
> creative and use less force.  This might include using glues and extra waste 
> material and more creative ways to part excess waste off if we are only going 
> to use the legacy as a turning tool.
>
> One of the question I left out of questionnaire was how many people own a 
> lathe and a Legacy.  I suspect the level of ownership is high.  Especially in 
> the group of people that consider themselves intermediate and advanced Legacy 
> owners.  I think that group is always looking at the resources traditional 
> turners have and applying them to the Legacy.  Those that have never turned 
> would never even consider a jam chuck to hold work.  In our case, a jam chuck 
> could be handy in rotary table mounting.  It's something I've been meaning to 
> try.  I can think of several other obscure home made chucks that could come 
> in handy as well.  
>
> Unfortunately, one of the basic cuts used on a lathe to make thin inlay parts 
> is a real challenge on a Legacy, the parting cut.  On a lathe we can slice 
> off thin 1/8" slices using end grain orientation.  On the legacy we would 
> have to resort to using a 3/8" bit and that wastes a lot of wood.  If you use 
> a thinner router bit you risk breaking the bit and also limiting the diameter 
> you can part off.  This is where a chop saw has come in handy for me.  I've 
> also used a bandsaw but that comes with lots of safety warnings when the 
> piece has been rounded.  
>
> The other alternative to thin inlay stock is to plane a thin piece of wood 
> cross grain style and then cut circles out to inlay.  That is really easy to 
> do.  I take square slices and use a small piece of carpet tape between them 
> and hold the stack between centers and turn them round with a 2704 bit.  It 
> almost does not matter how you stack them but it's best to match them and cut 
> off the corners to make an octagon. You can make a whole cylinder of cross 
> grained circles really fast!  Then it's easy to make bullseye type patters 
> using inlays on the rotary table.
>
> I do know we can make these types of designs by offsetting the work piece on 
> a rotary table and then indexing the work piece separately.  It's one of the 
> things I've been trying to get around to showing and have hinted to.  A 
> simple "V" cutting bit would be used to engrave fine lines, or you could make 
> really bold cuts using few indexes.  It's completely scalable.
>
> I'm sure some light bulbs are turning on now!  After writing a chapter of a 
> book in response to your simple comment, I think I'm really off base.   
> Please help straighten me out!
>
> -Tim
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:13 PM
> Subject: Re: just me being missing
>
> Thank you chaps for your kindness,and your prayers CAG.we need them
> right now, Tim,I was thinking along the lines of small Rosette circles
> round the outside circumference and conected by deepening radial cuts
> from the centre
> to be inlaid with a dark wood like Ebony,small bits of that can be
> acquired quite reasonably priced,as like pen bits,and shaved to
> fit,what do you think, MAC.
>
>
>
>  inlay_box_top.jpg
> 6KViewDownload
>
>  eccentric_rotary_table.jpg
> 61KViewDownload

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Re: just me being missing

[MACSWAG]

Thank you chaps for your kindness,and your prayers CAG.we need them
right now, Tim,I was thinking along the lines of small Rosette circles
round the outside circumference and conected by deepening radial cuts
from the centre
to be inlaid with a dark wood like Ebony,small bits of that can be
acquired quite reasonably priced,as like pen bits,and shaved to
fit,what do you think, MAC.

On Sep 15, 2:26 am, "curt george"  wrote:
> MAC. you and your wife are in my prayers.
> I will keep in touch.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:33 PM
> Subject: just me being missing
>
> > Hello chaps just come back to read what's happening on the Legacy's, I
> > haven't being doing anything much at all,well nothing exactly,you see
> > my wife had a stroke about a month ago now and I have been in and out
> > of the hosp. visiting,she is now home but needs a lot of care so my
> > time will be taken up for a while,so I will just be reading the posts
> > while I sit with her,I have answered the survey and hope all others do
> > the same,the input in our group is so very important and no-one is on
> > their own for long with a prob,it's nice to know that some new people,
> > and the old lurkers, are now taken an active role,I would really like
> > to see more on the rotary table,anything will get my attention,keep up
> > the very welcome work TIM,and hi Bill,
>
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just me being missing

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps just come back to read what's happening on the Legacy's, I
haven't being doing anything much at all,well nothing exactly,you see
my wife had a stroke about a month ago now and I have been in and out
of the hosp. visiting,she is now home but needs a lot of care so my
time will be taken up for a while,so I will just be reading the posts
while I sit with her,I have answered the survey and hope all others do
the same,the input in our group is so very important and no-one is on
their own for long with a prob,it's nice to know that some new people,
and the old lurkers, are now taken an active role,I would really like
to see more on the rotary table,anything will get my attention,keep up
the very welcome work TIM,and hi Bill,

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Re: brick pattern

[MACSWAG]

Hi Tim,yes, I have been laid low with a rotten virus and have had to
let the gang work on their own,we are starting to make xmas.presents
now and I have got them making memory box's,or memento box's,one of
the boys Luke, has progressed so well he has been accepted for a
woodworking course at Brock college,isn't that just great,somebody up
there is looking out for him,I will post some pictures soon if I can
remember how to do it,as to the Brick pattern can anyone give me a bit
of know how to do this on a flat box lid,we have been given one piece
of birds eye maple and it is too precious to get it wrong,any advice
will be appreciated, thanks Bill and C.A.G.   mac.

On Aug 7, 3:39 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Hi Mac,
>
> It's been a while.  Are you and the boys making anything on the Revo we
> might be interested in?
>
> When it comes to making flat indexed cuts, the tutorial on the three leg
> pedestal gave a few good tips when it comes to depth of cut and making flat
> sections.  See steps 12-18.http://legacywoodworking.com/class.cfm?id=39
> also seehttp://legacywoodworking.com/galleryItem.cfm?project=191
>
> Crank handle indexing would be ideal. Here's a 
> refresher:http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/pungs_index_method/pu...
>
> -Tim
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:10 PM
> Subject: Re: brick pattern
>
> Hi Bill,how would you tackle the brick pattern on the REVO,any info,Hi
> C.A.G.on this forum we are,so I think legacy are lurkers just to see
> what we are saying,
> MAC.

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Re: brick pattern

[MACSWAG]

Hi Bill,how would you tackle the brick pattern on the REVO,any info,Hi
C.A.G.on this forum we are,so I think legacy are lurkers just to see
what we are saying,
MAC.

On Aug 6, 10:59 pm, "curt george"  wrote:
> Hello Bill
> I like the Video. and I "Realy" liked hearing Tracy say, that "WE" the 
> customers are a very important part of There business.  
> And I was starting to feeling like Uncle Burney's second son,from his first 
> marriage,once removed! (You could say, I was feeling pretty rejected, from 
> THIS family tree.) THANKS TRACY. ((( I'm IMPORANT!)))
> ;-)
> C.A.G.
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Bill Bulkeley
>   To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 5:37 PM
>   Subject: brick pattern
>
>   Here's one I think we can do on our manual machines simple but looks good I 
> think
>
>  http://www.legacycncwoodworking.com/demo-videos/2010/8/6/spiral-brick...
>
>   Bill
>
>     - Original Message -
>     From: Tim Krause
>     To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com
>     Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 7:43 AM
>     Subject: Welcome New Members - July
>
>     Hello All,
>
>     I'm going to try a new monthly feature by welcoming new members at the 
> end of each month.  I would like us all to get an opportunity to get to know 
> each other and share our experiences.  I would especially like new members to 
> feel comfortable posting any question or comment they have for the group as 
> it relates to using Legacy's equipment.  
>
>     I realize we are on all different levels of the learning curve.  Many 
> members of the group that do not post messages have told me in private how 
> much they appreciate even the simple tips and procedures.  The hard part for 
> me is knowing what the membership body would like to see more of.  So please, 
> take a moment from your busy day and ask a question or post a tip.  
>
>     New Members for the Month of July:  Mike, Legacy Heirlooms, kellyintx, 
> Sawdustman, NCW,  Ahmed Net, Tim Rinehart, Marty, King and Charlie Porter.
>
>     Please feel free to post an introduction or share with us what you are 
> looking for.  I know that I'm here to help and learn as well.
>
>     -Tim
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Re: Legacy treatment of customers

[MACSWAG]

I had gear problem and the lady,Cindy helped me out of trouble,also my
supplier
Roger ,who is very patient kicked ass and together they got a
result,But I'd love to meet Cindy and give her a big bunch of
flowers,she is a top sorter, MAC.

On Jul 7, 2:43 am, "curt george"  wrote:
> Hello
> I am sorry to hear that you have had more than some minor problems with
> Legacy's staff.
> I too have had some small problems with them as well. but... for some reason
> everything has always ended up working out in the end, well.
> I don't think that Tracy is going to like my suggestion,butt what the heck!
> when I call Legacy I only deal with Tracy.(I use to deal with Dane C. but
> sadly he is no longer there.) Any how.I find If I call (any comp.) and get a
> name of a person that you talk to,  then use that person as your direct
> link,By making someone accountable to you, I have found that I get better
> success.
> Im not going to throw mud at anyone. small business's are much harder to run
> than what you would think.
> Despite all the problems that you may have had,(or heard of form others.) I
> still feel that Legacy will end up living up to its promises. They have
> disappointed me in the past, but on the flip side, they have not ever failed
> to provide me with what I needed form them ether.
>
> My Grand dad use to tell me. Have faith.  But dont expect to much. ;-)
>
> I hope things will end up working out for you.
> C.A.G.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "pastorcarl" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:07 PM
> Subject: Legacy treatment of customers
>
> > Just a quick question?  Have others experienced the extreemly poor
> > customer service I seem to be getting?  It seems that everytime I try
> > to order something and then track what is going on I get a very large
> > run around, phone calls do not get returned, e-mails are ignored, I
> > get lied to by the sales staff, and on and on.  I understand that
> > times are tough but lying to customers about what is on hand in stock
> > and then not following through really makes me wonder if we are all
> > about to be hung out to dry so to speak. It seems to me that when I
> > decide to upgrade my machine that Legacy may not be the wisest
> > decision to make. I would feel very uncomfortable ordering a CNC
> > machine and receiving this type of poor service, the lies about items
> > in stock, shipping and the general customer service.  I know that I
> > can not recomended them to anyone else at this point and I actually
> > told one potential customer about my difficulties and how it has
> > affected my business.
>
> > On another note I had tried to purchase the plans for the Pedestal
> > table.  They never shipped them to me and I finally asked for my money
> > to be applied to a rotary table. see above Does anyone out there have
> > the plans I could purchase from them? Someone at Legacy told me that
> > everthing was on line but of course there are no real dimensions for
> > the feet.  I thought it would be a good learning project for getting
> > to know the machine.
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Re: Pen Tool and Enhanced Rotary Table Control

[MACSWAG]

WOW TIM,that is so clever,but do you think the Legacy can be made to
work that detail so fine,as we all know to our cost there is a lot of
play and drift in our rigs,not decrying your work in any way,thanks
for the pics and info, I will have a go at it and see what mess I come
up with,Now to all the legacy owning chaps in the U/K.Rutlands is
giving 15% off all tools and free delivery till Jul.5TH. got to be
worth a look,MAC.

On Jun 30, 8:14 pm, Ccm Ccm  wrote:
> very inspirational Tim,  nice idea, Roger
>
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Tim Krause  wrote:
> >  Hello All,
>
> > Well, I know many of you have wondered why I need so much control of the
> > rotary table.  I just think there is so much potential that is not
> > tapped.  In order to explore new possibilities and not waste wood, I made
> > a new tool that I've seen used in the Ornamental Turning world.  It's a
> > spring loaded ball point pen that I can fit in place of the router bit.
> > Taping a piece of paper to the rotary table I can now play in real time, and
> > save a tree.  The pen tool will also act as my new centering tool by
> > flipping it around in the router.
>
> > Here's the new Pen / Centering Tool.  It's a piece of 1/2" cold rolled
> > steel with a #7 (.201") hole bored through the center. The overall length of
> > the pen is 5".  I robbed the spring and the plastic tip from a cheap pen,
> > but the refill is from a fancy pen.  It needed to be short for this project.
> > It's a sealed ink refill that is 4-1/8" long and .186" in diameter (Sanford
> > brand but others look very similar).  The end opposite of the pen point has
> > a 1/2" long, 1/4-20 NC set screw installed to adjust the pressure of the pen
> > and have access to replace the ink cartridge in the future.  The plastic
> > cone is epoxied into a slightly larger bore (.360").
>
> > Here's the pen loaded in the router and I'm starting the pattern. The stops
> > are used and the plunge stop on the router is also set. Just like real life.
> > The router is not running.
>
> > Here's the final design.  I'll spare you the intermediate photos.
>
> > The pattern was very to index the 36 locations or every 10º using my new
> > graduated dial and the simple pointer.  You can't tell me that it looks like
> > it was done on the Legacy! Imaging how the cuts would look like with a small
> > rope bit for the center, a small roundover bit for the circles, and a V bit
> > for the sunburst pattern and small lines. Run a core box around the outside
> > edge and you get one cool looking rosette.
>
> > -Tim
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Re: Rotary Table odd question

[MACSWAG]

Hi ppl.yup my mdf.was a tad proud and I had to shave it,I use a
Revo,but the rotary table needed lubing and the Delron spacers shaved
to all match,but it is a great addition to anybody's tools,MAC.

On Jun 18, 6:05 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> I never machined my top on my rotary table. I know others have. I guess that 
> would true up the surface rather than fixing the delrin pads. I do know your 
> table top would run into my 20 tooth gear and I would not be able to turn my 
> table. The large gear is 13.5" diameter.
>
> Here's a picture that show how my 20 tooth gear stick above the rotary table 
> by .110".  
>
> I did a quick and dirty trim job on the waste board to make it fit 
> originally.  
>
> Is this the way it looks on everyone's table?
>
> -Tim
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Bill Bulkeley
>   To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:17 PM
>   Subject: Re: Rotary Table odd question
>
>   sorry Tim I was incorrect before... measuring with a tape
>   my large gear on the rotary table is just over 13 1/2 dia and to correct my 
> self I need to learn to read a tape ha ha the blank is 13 3/8 dia it sits 
> nice just smaller than the teeth on the large gear
>   I don't know if mine is strait or not I just machined it true after 
> attaching my blank to it
>   Bill
>     - Original Message -
>     From: Tim Krause
>     To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>     Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:47 AM
>     Subject: Re: Rotary Table odd question
>
>     Hi Bill,
>
>     So your stock table is hanging over the gears on the large diameter gear? 
>  That would really cause problems on mine.  I also found out last night that 
> the table is not level to the base.  The 4 delrin spacers that support the 
> table are all different heights on my table.  That's an easy fix, but a bit 
> of a surprise.  Also discovered the table has a huge dip in the center.  With 
> the mdf in place it does not matter, but interesting to note.
>
>     -Tim
>
>       - Original Message -
>       From: Bill Bulkeley
>       To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>       Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:12 PM
>       Subject: Re: Rotary Table odd question
>
>       well my table is for the revo which I add too to fit the 900 as well 
> but   it seems to be the same dia gears
>       my blank is 13 5/8 dia which is 1/8 larger than what I think you said 
> yours was
>       Bill
>         - Original Message -
>         From: Tim Krause
>         To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>         Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 3:21 AM
>         Subject: Re: Rotary Table odd question
>
>         What's the diameter of the stock one?
>           - Original Message -
>           From: Bill Bulkeley
>           To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>           Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:22 AM
>           Subject: Re: Rotary Table odd question
>
>           I still have my board unused I made my own and turned it as well so 
> I don't know if it hits either
>           Bill
>           ps Tim what did you think a bout my crazy idea?
>             - Original Message -
>             From: Tim Krause
>             To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com
>             Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:26 PM
>             Subject: Rotary Table odd question
>
>             Hello All,
>
>             When I bought my rotary table I discovered that the mdf waste 
> board provided by Legacy was too big for the table.  It was 13.25" in 
> diameter. The diameter made it hard to turn because the 20 tooth gear on the 
> rotary table ate into the mdf and left dimples where the teeth were hitting. 
> I ended up turning the table down to 13.125" and it fits just fine.  My 
> question is this, did anyone else have the same problem?
>
>             -Tim
>
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Re: introducing another sleeper

[MACSWAG]

Hi Bill,do you think the use of the small pad for the rotary table
would solve that,it does give a guide up in the right hand /top.just a
few settings but it should be o/k. to work from that,MAC.

On Jun 10, 1:14 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> HI Bill,
>
> No reason to apologize, I was just poking a little fun at ya.  I'm not bright 
> enough to figure it out either without doing the physical work.  When Mike 
> left us the challenge to figure out the math for ourselves I had good 
> intentions to make a chart with the answers.  It's on the list, I was hoping 
> you had it figured out :-).
>
> -Tim
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Bill Bulkeley
>   To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 4:58 PM
>   Subject: Re: introducing another sleeper
>
>   sorry Tim my math is not that good not without setting the table and trying 
> a few and
>   sorry I missed your last sentence I was in a hurry getting my kids to 
> school its was morning here when I read your post
>   Bill
>
>     - Original Message -
>     From: Tim Krause
>     To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>     Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:48 AM
>     Subject: Re: introducing another sleeper
>
>     Hi Bill,
>
>     I mentioned that method in my last sentence.  Now, I've never sat down 
> and did the math using the gears.  Any guess of how many cranks and what gear 
> to use to easily get 20 indexes on the rotary table?
>
>     -Tim
>
>       - Original Message -
>       From: Bill Bulkeley
>       To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>       Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 3:27 PM
>       Subject: Re: introducing another sleeper
>
>       perhaps the rotary table was connected to the headstock and he used the 
> crank handle indexing technique
>
>       Bill
>         - Original Message -
>         From: Tim Krause
>         To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>         Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:01 AM
>         Subject: Re: introducing another sleeper
>
>          Mike Pung also brought up the idea of using the gear train to index 
> the table which might be what Tom originally did. More later on this subject.
>
>         Let me know if this helps.
>
>         -Tim

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Re: introducing another sleeper

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,I wrote to Tom W.a while back when I first saw a picture
of his tall candlestick on the Legacy gallery,he very kindly wrote
back with details of same which I'm only now being able to start
because I've acquired the 2x.gears,
courtesy of my friend and supplier Roger,Tom's work is awesome and a
bench mark for all of us triers,so Tom if you look in thank you for
the inspiration,  MAC.

On Jun 9, 3:19 pm, "Cole Andrews"  wrote:
> Very impressive, on a wide range of projects also. A lot to be learned from 
> him , thank you for sharing along with everyone else . I've learned a lot 
> already from this group.  Thank you.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "curt george" 
> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 03:43:19
> To: 
> Subject: Re: introducing another sleeper
>
> Hello Tim
> I too hope he joins the group. Tom has been profiled on Legacy web 
> site.http://legacywoodworking.com/artist.cfm?artist=190http://legacywoodworking.com/galleryItem.cfm?project=685http://legacywoodworking.com/galleryItem.cfm?project=688http://legacywoodworking.com/galleryItem.cfm?project=691http://legacywoodworking.com/galleryItem.cfm?project=692http://legacywoodworking.com/galleryItem.cfm?project=693http://legacywoodworking.com/galleryItem.cfm?project=694http://legacywoodworking.com/galleryItem.cfm?project=695http://legacywoodworking.com/galleryItem.cfm?project=696http://legacywoodworking.com/galleryItem.cfm?project=697http://legacywoodworking.com/galleryItem.cfm?project=698http://legacywoodworking.com/galleryItem.cfm?project=699
> As you can see he is VERY TALENTED, as well as very nice person as well.He 
> would make a great
> addition to this group. LOOK at all that detail! I just love  that table!!!
> "Well" Guys here is a bunch of eye candy for you, hopefully  these pictures 
> will get you all motivated to
> go out and make something special for your self. If one person can make 
> things like these, then everyone
> out there, can too.
> You are all going to laugh, at my chosen next project for my self. some 
> Indian 
> clubshttp://www.atomicathletic.com/store/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=CLUB40These
>  may be a far cry
> form fine art work, but they have some kind of appeal to me. ;-) Tom was the 
> person who suggested making some of these. Now I have to at least make one 
> set for my self.;-)
> We will have to wait and see, at this moment I am so busy that I haven't even 
> been able to get in the garage in almost a week. But mark my words, I will 
> make those clubs someday!
> Woops! I now need to get ready for work.
> talk to you all latter.
> C.A.G.
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Tim Krause
>   To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:12 AM
>   Subject: Re: introducing another sleeper
>
>   That is some awesome work.  The finial is extremely elegant, and almost not 
> legacy like except for the tip.  The "Lambs Tongue" is a really subtle nice 
> touch too.  Boy, look around the room and notice all of the segmented work as 
> well.  Notice the table with hollow twists spiral legs? All good stuff! I 
> hope Tom joins the group.
>
>   -Tim
>
>     - Original Message -
>     From: curt george
>     To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>     Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 5:34 PM
>     Subject: Re: introducing another sleeper
>
>     I only have three pictures of the other bed. so here that are. ;-) 
> Hopefully Tom will either post his own stuff now, or at least send me more of 
> his stuff.
>     It sure is fun to see other people works. I find if I look closely at 
> other people's projects, I can almost always find different things, Some 
> stuff I might like to try, and others I can just appreciate the work that 
> went into the project.
>     To Live, Learn,& Grow. has always been my main goal in my life (as well 
> as in wood working).
>     talk to you all tomorrow.its time for bed. ;-)
>     Have a good night.
>     C.A.G.
>
>       - Original Message -
>       From: curt george
>       To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>       Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:21 PM
>       Subject: Re: introducing another sleeper
>
>       Macassar ebony is what I was told.  here are a few more pictures. I 
> hope these help to get a better veiw?
>       Tom also made a bed, that is a little different, he used Claro walnut 
> burl on that one. if you like I can post those photos latter?
>
>       I hope you are feeling better Art? Dont give up, tomorrow will be a 
> better day! ;-)
>       C.A.G.
>
>         - Original Message -
>         From: Art Ransom
>         To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>         Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:22 PM
>         Subject: Re: introducing another sleeper
>
>         A GREAT piece!!  What wood is the veneer?  
>         - Original Message -
>           From: curt george
>           To: Legacy Google group
>           Sent: Tuesday, June 08,

Re: 10 Foot Roped Half Columns

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,they are some of the best I've seen on here,extended with
angle iron
?please post some pics of your mod. MAC.

On Jun 4, 12:39 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Here's a project that a new member Roger L.  just completed.  
>
> He basically said:
>
> Just last week I got an order for four rope mould half columns 5 1/2'' wide 
> and ten feet long done in cherry.  I had to extend the tail-stock with some 
> angle iron which made is possible to do half of the column length and then 
> flip it over and do the other half.
>
> That is some really inspiring work Roger.  Thanks for letting me share this 
> with the group.  
>
> -Tim
>
>  finished_long_columns.jpg
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>
>  roughing_long_column.jpg
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>  roping_long_column.jpg
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Re: a picture for you

[MACSWAG]

Hello Cole,I had the same prob. with dust getting down inside,burnt
out a couple,
I also took a step back in some things and came at it from a different
angle,keep chippin,MAC.

On May 30, 7:33 pm, cole andrews  wrote:
> I  think its a great router for the money,we bought it to go in a
> table but we didn't like its fit.We burnt a hitachi up in the table
> (Bosch table) ,we noticed the Hitachi is open at the bit allowing
> debris down inside . We only had dust collection  to the bit and the
> back of the table bottom. the bottom is closed in,making a mountain of
> dust. We  ended up with a Bosch 2 1/4 hp under the table .It is sealed
> up at the bit . The Bosch and the Triton are the only two I could find
> sealed up like that . I have not been able to bog either one down ,not
> that I want too. The Hitachi seemed like it was always tripping the
> overload switch on the table even some light passes. Lucky for me ,we
> bought the mill at that same time. I love the things I have learned to
> do, looking back though  it has helped  me skip some fundamental
> lessons. I'm problably gonna step back and rethink some projects so
> Ican get the full effect .I don't wanna cheat myself.
>
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:53 AM, Bill Bulkeley  wrote:
> > I see you are using a triton router on your mill please tell me what you
> > think of them I have one on my machine and I really like it
> > Bill
> > - Original Message - From: "cole andrews" 
> > To: "Legacy group" 
> > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 12:57 PM
> > Subject: a picture for you
>
> >> You have been sent 1 picture.
>
> >> IMG00165-20100529-1800.jpg
>
> >> These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google.
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Re: Not quite combat ready.

[MACSWAG]

Hello Art,saddened to hear of your condition but admire your
philosophical outlook and bravery,although I'm from the U.K.my country
I'm sure must have benefited from your military time,my little group
will say a prayer specially for you,may god bless and keep you, MAC.

On May 25, 4:29 pm, Bill Hallow  wrote:
> Good Morning Art
>  
> Thanks for sharing your situation and your history with us. Many, many thanks 
> for your very special service to our country.
>  
> May God bless you and smile upon you in this struggle to beat the odds one 
> more time..
>  
> Bill H
>
> 
> From: Art Ransom 
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 9:35:00 PM
> Subject: Not quite combat ready.
>
> Been an interesting 5 weeks.  In hospital for 2 weeks for colon/rectal 
> surgery, back home for 2 days and then 2 weeks back in hospital for 
> interventions anti biotic. Outlook looks good and I have always beat the odds.
>   US Army- less than 9% of US population: paratrooper 16 years-less than 1% 
> of the Army; member of Special Forces A team - less than .1% of all Army 
> paratroopers;  Army Pathfinder- less than 300 at any one time in the Army. 
>   I have no regrets and my bucket list is a lot more complete than 99% of the 
> world.  I have had VERY bad times and VERY SUPER FANTASTIC Good days, the BAD 
> day enhance the Good days.  I have meet a lot if interesting people and  
> include this group.  My wish all of you could have traveled the great journey 
> I am on.
> Many whoever you pray to bless you. 
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Re: Digest for legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 4 Messages in 1 Topic

[MACSWAG]

J***S!!  I'm so glad somebody else saw that illusion face, hell I
thought I was being spooked,  MAC.

On May 21, 4:20 pm, "Jeff \"Stickman\" Finder" 
wrote:
> The claw foot table was very nice, but my favorite was the illusion in
> that fruit bowl.
>
> On 5/20/2010 10:09 PM, legacy-ornamental-mills+nore...@googlegroups.com
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Today's Topic Summary
>
> > Group:http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/topics
>
> >     * Toys <#group_thread_0> [4 Updates]
>
> >  Topic: Toys
> > 
>
> >       "curt george"  May 20 03:32AM -0400 ^
> >       <#digest_top>
>
> >       Good morning Dustin
> >       To post pictures on this group, is very easy, Just make sure
> >       that you are
> >       useing the E-Mail part of this link. You can not post pictures
> >       through the
> >       web server (google web page.) There is also a limmit on the size
> >       of pix.
> >       that can be sent. If you can attach a photo to face-book you
> >       should not have
> >       any problems posting them on this e-mail. Give it a try?
> >       I will check out your photos on face book, and then get back
> >       with you
> >       latter.
> >       Have a great day.
> >       C.A.G.
>
> >       - Original Message -
> >       From: "Chainlink" 
> >       To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
> >       
> >       Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:34 PM
> >       Subject: Re: Toys
>
> >       I'm not sure how to do photo attachments, so I'll try a couple
> >       links.
> >       I've got some of my woodworking stuff up on Facebook.
>
> >      
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> >       
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> >      
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> >      
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> >       
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> >      
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> >       
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Re: New X-Axis Lock

[MACSWAG]

Nice one TIM.  MAC.

On May 18, 8:26 pm, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Here's my new X-axis carrier tray lock.  It's been in the works for a while 
> but I finally got around to making it.  I got tired of messing with the Allen 
> wrench and having to twist the x-axis screw just to gain access to the small 
> screws on the shaft collars to change the location of the router.  I have 
> used my stop blocks as a lock in the past to capture the carrier tray and 
> that has worked well for years but I think this works better.
>
> Simply tighten the hand knob and the carrier tray is locked in place.  Loosen 
> the knob and the carrier tray slides left and right as usual.  This is 
> designed for my model 900, but I have a strong suspicion that this will work 
> on the 1200 and 1800 but I have no way of verifying if the rear piece is the 
> same on all models.  I also don't know if it will work with the Z axis 
> upgrade.
>
> Full details are written up on this 
> page:http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/x_axis_lock/index...
>
> If you are interested in purchasing one for your machine, I made a few 
> extras.  Please contact me off list for price and availability.  Question and 
> comments are gladly accepted.  
>
> -Tim
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Re: For Sale - Small Quick Mounts

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,Hi Cole,you must get one of Tim's wave attachments,it
makes the Legacy work a whole new ball game as they say in your
country,I love using it in between other cuts on the same spindle,the
cut's are all in your head,anything goes,have fun,  MAC.

On Apr 27, 5:13 pm, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Hi Cole,
>
> I also make what I consider to be an essential tool for the Legacy 900.  It's 
> a tool for quickly adjusting the bed.
>
> http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/bedheightadjustment/b...
>
> Another fun item that I make is called the TK Reciprocator which is also 
> known as the "Wave 
> attachment".http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveat...
>
> Over the years I have made gears, templates, and index plates for myself and 
> fellow Legacy users.  Contact me off list if you're interested in anything or 
> have any questions.  
>
> -Tim
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: cole andrews
>   To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:12 AM
>   Subject: Re: For Sale - Small Quick Mounts
>
>   You must be a machinist. What else do you have in your toy box for sale 
> that you make?
>
>   On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Tim Krause  wrote:
>
>     Hello All,
>
>     I made a set of 20 small quick mounts.  The price is $30.00 plus $4.95 
> for priority shipping in the USA.  International priority shipping is roughly 
> $14.00.  Contact me off-list if you are  interested.
>
>     -Tim
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Re: a little bit of legacy

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Hi Bill,looks real good,have a great time and a couple of tubes for
me,MAC.

On Apr 23, 8:52 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> Hi guys I'm off in a week or so for a 4 week break my nephew is getting
> married and its at the other end of my country hope to do some good fishing
> he lives near the great barrier reef in Queensland that's in Australia for
> any who don't know me
> any way here is his wedding present I know its not exactly legacy stuff but
> I did make some of the frame on the 900 and
> just thought I would post it to show it off a bit.
> Bill
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Krause" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:42 PM
> Subject: Re: dome for stand.jpg
>
> > Hi Cole,
>
> > I think Curt explained it pretty well.  I would definitely suggest trying
> > this on in pine first.  You will be able to see how a 1/2" straight
> > cutting
> > bit is going to react.  You are going to have to take this slow.  When
> > cutting from the side, I think the router bit is going to try and grab the
> > wood since 1/2 of the time will be against the grain.   I would probably
> > waste a bunch of material with the 2704 flat bottom bit from the top.
> > This
> > would create a stepped pulley look.  Then start working from the side with
> > the template.
>
> > I hope this helps a bit.
>
> > -Tim
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Cole Andrews" 
> > To: "Legacy group" 
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: dome for stand.jpg
>
> >> I've got it figured at five in. diameter with the bottom 3/4 for a band
> >> of
> > buttons.
> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: "curt george" 
> >> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:53:55
> >> To: 
> >> Subject: Re: dome for stand.jpg
>
> >> Hello Cole
> >> Please re-fresh my memory? How big is this ball?
>
> >> If I were doing this job, I would start with the hole in the top. (That
> > is)
> >> drill the hole first in the square block. then ether use an large tail
> > stock
> >> center, or put a plug into the hole and turn the stock as normal.
> >> Since the bottom is flat makes this job somewhat easer, use a face plate
> > to
> >> hold the wood. depending on your router bits, you could ether use a large
> >> round over bit, or if you don't have a bit that large, you could make a
> >> template and cut from the side. (as Tim already suggested)
> >> The fluting you plan to use can also be done with a the same template,
> >> and
> > a
> >> side cutting bit.
> >> Over all this looks like a good starting project for you.
> >> Please send some pictures of the end results.
> >> Good luck, and just take things slow. (You can do it!)
> >> ;-)
> >> C.A.G.
>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Cole Andrews" 
> >> To: "Legacy group" 
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:06 PM
> >> Subject: dome for stand.jpg
>
> >> > This is the basic shape. This is for banner stand at church. Still
> >> > learning to draw the flutes and reeds. The math is getting easier.
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TURNING

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,I have been doing a wee bit in the shop and just thought
I've neglected my turning with all the time I have spent on the
Legacy, so I chucked up a piece of YEW,and got that old time thrill
and pleasure as a Chinese type form started to take shape,lesson
chaps,don't loose the skill in your hands and imagination in your
bonce for the sake of spending time on the Legacy,get in the W/shop
and let your dream take wings,
keep chippin,  mac.

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Re: Wishing you all a happy Easter

[MACSWAG]

Happy easter everyone and remember the message of it,have fun rolling
your hard boiled eggs with painted faces and see the children love
it,bless all you families today, MAC.

On Apr 3, 11:22 pm, "curt george"  wrote:
> Hello Everyone!
> Today I just CLEANED the shop! "UGG!" What a job that was!
> Nothing realy to report as far as new projects goes, Today.But tomorrow? Just 
> maybe. ;-)
>
> I hope everyone has a happy Easter.
> Take care.
> C.A.G.

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Re: fancy dovetail joints

[MACSWAG]

Hello C.A.G.I also have seen that and it is definitely on my wish
list,the lads could have great time doing those,and I should think
they will go well at our village fete,Roger is sending to me a DVD.and
info on the Incra goods,so that will absorb me very soon,MAC.

On Mar 25, 12:29 am, "curt george"  wrote:
> Hay 
> Mac.http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages...
> is one of those new companies that have gotten in the dovetail game. These
> are not the ones that I explained. but none the less, they are neat.
> C.A.G.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:30 PM
> Subject: fancy dovetail joints
>
> > Hello chaps,how do you make those fancy contrasting woods
> > dovetails,you can see them on the expensive Incra, tool rigs as
> > examples,Aaron I think you wrote something on this a while back,what
> > I'm trying to ask is how they make the dovetail lining within a
> > dovetail,a pretty neat trick that looks,anybody know how it's done,
> > Bill I'm still trying to make an example of your twists within a
> > twist,within a twist,but not doing too well,can you give a work
> > procedure step by step ,if you've got time to spare,to anyone
> > interested,I have made some really good Ribbon twists using both a
> > long straight 1/2" CUTTER,and a 2" core box cutter,recommended in a
> > tip from Roger,my supplier,one of our little group,a Downs syndrome
> > lad can make them,he takes his time and is very patient,I can always
> > tell if he's getting agitated and I sort it,if he makes a mistake what
> > the hell it's only wood,I wish we could get Curly Maple as reasonably
> > priced as our Canadian cousins,it cost the dickens over here,that's
> > all for now,  MAC.
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Re: fancy dovetail joints

[MACSWAG]

Thanks Bill,I was wondering if the join would show much and if it
weakened
the spiral when you try to hollow,did you have any blow up on you,I
tried with a Forstner bit and extension rod but not very successful,I
was hoping to make them in one piece,but I will try your way
first,keep chippin,MAC.

On Mar 25, 2:28 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> Its not too hard run a cor box bit up 2 halfs then glue them together to
> make a square with a hole up the middle, I used a 3inch corbox for the first
> spiral( i had one made for another job I was doing for a customer so the bit
> was free)
> and a 11/2 corbox for the second, after its dry I machined up cores for both
> out of mdf a nice sliding fit not loose, then caps for each end to attach
> the index hubs.  I used a wood screw to stop the caps from slipping while
> machining.
> I removed the corners and as much of the bulk on the saw bench to get as
> close to the 6inch dia of the first spiral as the revo without mods will
> only do 6inch dia.
> then turn your spirals which ever you want.one LH one RH then the middle LH
> I think I used  a 4 start with 2 spirals removed I would have to look back
> on my notes to tell you for sure.
> only after it is finished remove the core or it will surly fly to bits
> during machining.
> the smallest spiral was a 3 start rope I think it was done with a couple of
> steady rests to keep it from moving the steady was just some mdf clamped to
> the rails with a square cut in it for the wood to run in, rough but worked
> ok. the only other tip is to make sure the blanks fit inside each other
> before you make the spirals hard to remove that little bit later if it is to
> tight.
> then after you finish slip them together and make caps for the ends I glued
> nothing together as I wanted to be able to disassemble them for staining or
> painting at a future time. I just used screws in the ends to hold it all
> together hope this helps im not good at explaining this stuff some of the
> other guys might know of a better or easier way but that is basically how I
> did it, I must have a go at 4 inside each other for fun one day
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:30 AM
> Subject: fancy dovetail joints
>
> > Hello chaps,how do you make those fancy contrasting woods
> > dovetails,you can see them on the expensive Incra, tool rigs as
> > examples,Aaron I think you wrote something on this a while back,what
> > I'm trying to ask is how they make the dovetail lining within a
> > dovetail,a pretty neat trick that looks,anybody know how it's done,
> > Bill I'm still trying to make an example of your twists within a
> > twist,within a twist,but not doing too well,can you give a work
> > procedure step by step ,if you've got time to spare,to anyone
> > interested,I have made some really good Ribbon twists using both a
> > long straight 1/2" CUTTER,and a 2" core box cutter,recommended in a
> > tip from Roger,my supplier,one of our little group,a Downs syndrome
> > lad can make them,he takes his time and is very patient,I can always
> > tell if he's getting agitated and I sort it,if he makes a mistake what
> > the hell it's only wood,I wish we could get Curly Maple as reasonably
> > priced as our Canadian cousins,it cost the dickens over here,that's
> > all for now,  MAC.
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fancy dovetail joints

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,how do you make those fancy contrasting woods
dovetails,you can see them on the expensive Incra, tool rigs as
examples,Aaron I think you wrote something on this a while back,what
I'm trying to ask is how they make the dovetail lining within a
dovetail,a pretty neat trick that looks,anybody know how it's done,
Bill I'm still trying to make an example of your twists within a
twist,within a twist,but not doing too well,can you give a work
procedure step by step ,if you've got time to spare,to anyone
interested,I have made some really good Ribbon twists using both a
long straight 1/2" CUTTER,and a 2" core box cutter,recommended in a
tip from Roger,my supplier,one of our little group,a Downs syndrome
lad can make them,he takes his time and is very patient,I can always
tell if he's getting agitated and I sort it,if he makes a mistake what
the hell it's only wood,I wish we could get Curly Maple as reasonably
priced as our Canadian cousins,it cost the dickens over here,that's
all for now,  MAC.

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Re: View this page "TK - Kaleidoscope - August 2009"

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Hi Tim,smashing idea,we will all use it I hope and have a gallery to
rival any on the net,I'm sure Bill has some really good pics.to
post,and Curt and the rest of the gang,it helps with the inspiration
on a rainy day,good work,  MAC.

On Mar 22, 10:39 pm, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Yes you can choose more than one image per page.
>
> Couple limitations,
>   1.. The message cannot exceed I believe 2mb in size.  So, your pictures 
> will have to trimmed in size.
>   2.. The picture file name cannot include a space in the file name. Use an 
> underscore or a hyphen, or nothing in place of the space.
>   3.. When you browse for the file name on your hard drive, you have to 
> select individual images and then upload them one at a time by choosing the 
> upload button.  It would appear that you are not able to select groups of 
> photos and upload them.  
>   4.. All of your images you upload get placed in two locations. One is in 
> the message body and two is in the file area.  I see some of them and judging 
> by the size, No. 1 and 2 is your problem.
>   5.. If all else fails, send them to me with your story and I will upload 
> them for you.
> I need to make a tutorial on how to do this.  It's less than clear so don't 
> feel bad or discouraged! I'm a little under the weather today so this will 
> have to wait.
>
> -Tim
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "gk777" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: View this page "TK - Kaleidoscope - August 2009"
>
> So can you aonly post one picture per page or can you add more. I
> posted a walnut hollow barley twist candlestick.
>
> On Mar 20, 11:57 pm, Tim  wrote:
> > Hello All,
>
> > I have just created a "Gallery" area on our Google Groups Home page.
> > It's an invitation for members to post projects made with the Legacy
> > Ornamental Mill.
>
> > To create a page you simply sign in and select the "Add Pages" button.
> > From there you can create a custom page with links and pictures.
> > Please include a decent description and try to follow the simple title
> > format of Your Initials or name followed by a hyphen followed by
> > Project Title or Type followed by a hyphen with the month and year
> > made. That way it will be easy to find a project by user or type
> > when you look at the pages list.
>
> > Once you save your page you have an option to send a message such as
> > this one to let the group know a new page has been created featuring
> > your work.
>
> > I hope the members will find this new feature of some use.
>
> > -Tim
>
> > Click 
> > onhttp://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/web/tk-august-...
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Re: template

[MACSWAG]

Thanks Tim,boy I'm really a thicko,thanks for that demo info,I have
bookmarked it for later use,now I know I can make some templates of my
own,aren't we very fortunate to have this forum,I'm off to bed
now,it's 2/16 am.
MAC.

On Mar 18, 12:17 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> For starters, here is an example of a captured template. It holds the stylus
> on both sides.http://legacywoodworking.com/products.cfm?product=72
>
> If you have the later stylus style that can be removed from the socket life
> is easier. I have the older style that has to be unscrewed to be removed.
> In the case of the swan neck, the captured stylus prevents the router bit
> from straying.  You can see a video of how the captured templates work here.
>
> http://legacywoodworking.com/class.cfm?id=2
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> -Tim
>
>  - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:29 PM
> Subject: template
>
> > Hello chaps,trust you are all well and covered in sawdust,
> > question,what is a captured template,and how does it perform as
> > against one screwed onto the Legacy bar,neither can I get my head
> > round a vertical template and how it would work,maybe I'm just being
> > thicko but I seem to be missing something,excuse the pun,LOL.mac.
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template

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,trust you are all well and covered in sawdust,
question,what is a captured template,and how does it perform as
against one screwed onto the Legacy bar,neither can I get my head
round a vertical template and how it would work,maybe I'm just being
thicko but I seem to be missing something,excuse the pun,LOL.mac.

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BOX

[MACSWAG]

Hi C.A.G.and thank you for the kind words,the wood is well seasoned
YEW,just turned from the only piece I had,it is hollowed out and
threaded body and lid,all turned complete with the finials,when you
get as far as the fin/s. you have to be very careful
or it will take off across the shop,the base and supports are from the
same block,try to match the as best you can when turning the supports
and the angle is determined by the circ/m. of the ring and the height
and balance,have a go it's a lot of pleasure and concentration,keep
chippin, MAC

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Re:

[MACSWAG]

Through the glass darkly, MAC.

On Feb 22, 11:54 am, CURTIS GEORGE  wrote:
> WOW! that is realy "DEEP" Tim
>
> Thanks for the insite. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Tim Krause
>
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>
> Sent: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:38:27 -0500 (EST)
>
> Subject: Re: Re:
>
> Come on Curt,
>
> I thought he was referring to Legacy's discontinued turning center that
>
> combined the router and the rotary table accessory.  In his own subtle way
>
> he was making a clear reference to the cycle of life and how we must all
>
> evolve to "Turn" a new leaf in our lives.  It was quite the profound
>
> message.  At least that's how I read into the message :-)
>
> -Tim
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Curtis"
>
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
>
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 5:06 PM
>
> Subject: Re:
>
> Art
>
> What Im missing something? Rotary and router combo, means almost
>
> nothing to me. Whats UP?
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Feb 21, 9:53 am, wrote:
>
> > Rotary and router combo
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spam

[MACSWAG]

Who the dickens is posting all this spam rubbish,does anyone know how
to block them,it is so annoying, well I suppose the prat that posts
them will read this and wet his pants knowing he has annoyed
someone,so childish,what a prat,  MAC

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Re: SUSPENDED BOWL

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,& Bill,I will try to lay it out as best I can I don't use
measures as such ,just think it up and turn it and modify as it
progresses,but I think it is,
about these,
the Bowl was finished dimention, 24"in circum, by 7-1/2" across,by 6"
deep.
 the base was18"in circum, by 5-!/2"
across,by 1" thick
the top fin turned on the lathe,  2" long a 1"space
the bottom finial turned on lathe2-1/2" to allow for a little
spigot in the base
the spiraled supports   12" long by 3/4" dia.
also a little spiral along the top of the bines/pitch was made with a
very small 1/4"router beading bit,before hollowing,although the
supports are Oak I used
a thin stock support on my table,very tricky blew a couple before I
got it right,I milled the tops and left a little spigot on the
bottom,I suppose you could do anything you want,the tops were supposed
to be little thistles, but I'm a wee bit clumsy with the arthritis so
settled for milk churns,the bowl was Maple, turned on the lathe quite
thin but it is quite a strong wood and will hold,the angle of the
supports depends on the circumference of the bowl and the base,
you have to drill a very small hole where you want them to join the
bowl and insert a wee dowel, I used a matchstick for that, devilishly
cunning these Brits,
the base you can shape any way you fancy but best to use a heavy wood
for the balance,all these measurements are approx.and off the top of
my head,because it is all finished you see,so if you fancy just get
stuck in and have fun, MAC
On Feb 19, 3:46 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> Great Bowl Mac looks really nice tell usmore about how you did it the type
> of spirals etc it would be great to see a much larger pic of it
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: SUSPENDED BOWL
>
> Tim I tried to send an enlarged version but it has vanished,any
> clues,MAC.
>
> On Feb 19, 1:13 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> > That's what I think this group is for. Showing what can be done and trying
> > what other have done, and putting your own twist on it. It helps people
> > grow and take risks that they would not normally do. The amount of
> > suspended bowls I have seen are few and far between. I lean towards the
> > artistic side, so seeing the post really inspires me.
>
> > -Tim
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: SUSPENDED BOWL
>
> > Thank's Tim,praise indeed,it just makes you want to try harder to come
> > up with something nice,that piece is promised to the the womens church
> > hall for thier raffle for Haiti aid,so it should make a few bob, MAC
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Re: SUSPENDED BOWL

[MACSWAG]

Tim I tried to send an enlarged version but it has vanished,any
clues,MAC.

On Feb 19, 1:13 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> That's what I think this group is for.  Showing what can be done and trying
> what other have done, and putting your own twist on it.  It helps people
> grow and take risks that they would not normally do.  The amount of
> suspended bowls I have seen are few and far between.  I lean towards the
> artistic side, so seeing the post really inspires me.
>
> -Tim
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re: SUSPENDED BOWL
>
> Thank's Tim,praise indeed,it just makes you want to try harder to come
> up with something nice,that piece is promised to the the womens church
> hall for thier raffle for Haiti aid,so it should make a few bob, MAC

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Re: SUSPENDED BOWL

[MACSWAG]

Thank's Tim,praise indeed,it just makes you want to try harder to come
up with something nice,that piece is promised to the the womens church
hall for thier raffle for Haiti aid,so it should make a few bob, MAC

On Feb 19, 12:37 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Your being too modest!  It goes to show, it's not the material but the
> craftsmanship that counts! Looks really good to me! I'm guessing the bowl
> and finials on the bowl and base are hand turned, and the supports that hold
> the bowl were turned on your revo?
>
> Try sizing the picture so it's about 600 to 800 pixels wide.  Then we can
> see the details better.  Thanks for taking the time to figure out how to
> post photos. It's a real treat to see what you guys are doing!
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:20 PM
> Subject: SUSPENDED BOWL
>
> > Hello chaps,I hope you can see my picture,it was taken by old George
> > and it is a wee bit fuzzy,it is nothing grand just an upturned bowl
> > with designs cut using a dremmel type power cutter,the pointy bits are
> > just quick turned finials and the base a wee bit of scrap wood cut on
> > the router table,all hand sanded and waxed,it doesn't look too bad
> > does it, MAC.
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SUSPENDED BOWL

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,I hope you can see my picture,it was taken by old George
and it is a wee bit fuzzy,it is nothing grand just an upturned bowl
with designs cut using a dremmel type power cutter,the pointy bits are
just quick turned finials and the base a wee bit of scrap wood cut on
the router table,all hand sanded and waxed,it doesn't look too bad
does it, MAC.

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Re: Unknown Parts

[MACSWAG]

Good night my friends,time I was in bed,MAC

On Feb 18, 2:18 am, MACSWAG  wrote:
> Ah Bill now that I can understand,I shall endeavor to set that in
> motion,good eer
> innit, MAC.
>
> On Feb 18, 2:12 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
>
> > If I remember correctly when your on the group page click on edit my
> > membership and then click on the bottom option
> >       Email (Approximately 4 emails per day)
> >      Send each message to me as it arrives
>
> > correct me if Im wrong guys then all the postings will come to your email
> > and you just reply to post a reply and then you can attach pics as well
>
> > Bill
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > Now you have really foxed me Tim,that is all way above my head,blimey
> > I'm an old geezer,I just read the posts on here this forum,I do have
> > personal e/mls.
> > but can't do anything complicated on a comp,still never mind eh, it's
> > all right in the end,MAC
>
> > On Feb 18, 1:30 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> > > I'm guessing MAC goes to googlegroups.com and reads the posts online. He
> > > probably has not set up his email client to get individual emails.
>
> > > -Tim
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 5:21 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > > Oh boy,well I can but try to do that,when you say E/Ml. do you mean
> > > when I post on the forum,that's how I would try to show them you
> > > see,we have just sold that one and it was only cheap pine,twisted and
> > > fluted and well sanded,we got 15.00. for that, so now we are going to
> > > buy a larger rope twist cutter from Roger,so I will get Clive to try
> > > to do it again and when it's finished we can proudly show all you
> > > chaps what a hope and a prayer can do,LOL, MAC.
>
> > > On Feb 17, 10:23 pm, "curt george"  wrote:
> > > > I can second that. Im not one of the most savvy guys on the computer, If
> > > > I
> > > > can do anyone can! ;-)
>
> > > > Put it this way, if you have someone who can make grape designs with
> > > > Tim's
> > > > wave attachment you surly can send an attachment (pictures) through this
> > > > e-mail.
>
> > > > C.A.G.
>
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 4:28 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > > > > once you get them on the computer just attach them to the return email
> > > > > just don't make them to large harder to send its easy once you have
> > > > > done
> > > > > it once
> > > > > Bill
>
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > > > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cc: "curt george" 
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:11 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > > > > Hello chaps,I wish I could take pictures but I do not have a digital
> > > > > camera,I think my son maybe will buy one for me for my birthday,golly
> > > > > I do not even know how to get them into the forum if I do take
> > > > > them,must check wikipedia for that info, keep chippin, MAC.
>
> > > > > On Feb 17, 8:59 am, "curt george"  wrote:
> > > > >> Keep preaching,you are talking to the quire! ;-)
> > > > >> Take some pictures as well.
>
> > > > >> C.A.G.
>
> > > > >> - Original Message -
> > > > >> From: "MACSWAG" 
> > > > >> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
> > > 
> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:41 PM
> > > > >> Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > > > >> Hi Bill,I don't know if that was the deal in AUS.but I didn't expect
> > > > >> so much and was pleasantly surprised,having the extra parts means I
> > > > >> don't have to strip and assemble again,the turntable i

Re: Unknown Parts

[MACSWAG]

Ah Bill now that I can understand,I shall endeavor to set that in
motion,good eer
innit, MAC.

On Feb 18, 2:12 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> If I remember correctly when your on the group page click on edit my
> membership and then click on the bottom option
>       Email (Approximately 4 emails per day)
>      Send each message to me as it arrives
>
> correct me if Im wrong guys then all the postings will come to your email
> and you just reply to post a reply and then you can attach pics as well
>
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> Now you have really foxed me Tim,that is all way above my head,blimey
> I'm an old geezer,I just read the posts on here this forum,I do have
> personal e/mls.
> but can't do anything complicated on a comp,still never mind eh, it's
> all right in the end,MAC
>
> On Feb 18, 1:30 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> > I'm guessing MAC goes to googlegroups.com and reads the posts online. He
> > probably has not set up his email client to get individual emails.
>
> > -Tim
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 5:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > Oh boy,well I can but try to do that,when you say E/Ml. do you mean
> > when I post on the forum,that's how I would try to show them you
> > see,we have just sold that one and it was only cheap pine,twisted and
> > fluted and well sanded,we got 15.00. for that, so now we are going to
> > buy a larger rope twist cutter from Roger,so I will get Clive to try
> > to do it again and when it's finished we can proudly show all you
> > chaps what a hope and a prayer can do,LOL, MAC.
>
> > On Feb 17, 10:23 pm, "curt george"  wrote:
> > > I can second that. Im not one of the most savvy guys on the computer, If
> > > I
> > > can do anyone can! ;-)
>
> > > Put it this way, if you have someone who can make grape designs with
> > > Tim's
> > > wave attachment you surly can send an attachment (pictures) through this
> > > e-mail.
>
> > > C.A.G.
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 4:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > > > once you get them on the computer just attach them to the return email
> > > > just don't make them to large harder to send its easy once you have
> > > > done
> > > > it once
> > > > Bill
>
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
> > > > 
> > > > Cc: "curt george" 
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:11 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > > > Hello chaps,I wish I could take pictures but I do not have a digital
> > > > camera,I think my son maybe will buy one for me for my birthday,golly
> > > > I do not even know how to get them into the forum if I do take
> > > > them,must check wikipedia for that info, keep chippin, MAC.
>
> > > > On Feb 17, 8:59 am, "curt george"  wrote:
> > > >> Keep preaching,you are talking to the quire! ;-)
> > > >> Take some pictures as well.
>
> > > >> C.A.G.
>
> > > >> - Original Message -
> > > >> From: "MACSWAG" 
> > > >> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
> > 
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:41 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > > >> Hi Bill,I don't know if that was the deal in AUS.but I didn't expect
> > > >> so much and was pleasantly surprised,having the extra parts means I
> > > >> don't have to strip and assemble again,the turntable is a great
> > > >> tool,I'm having lots of fun and wasting a lot of cheap pine but
> > > >> gaining experience,one of our little group of chaps the elder downs
> > > >> syndrome boy/man just loves using it,he has figured out a way in
> > > >> conjunction with Tim's wavy gadget,how to make bunches of grapes on
> > > >> the base of the large candle sticks we have been making,no maths,
> > 

Re: Unknown Parts

[MACSWAG]

Now you have really foxed me Tim,that is all way above my head,blimey
I'm an old geezer,I just read the posts on here this forum,I do have
personal e/mls.
but can't do anything complicated on a comp,still never mind eh, it's
all right in the end,MAC

On Feb 18, 1:30 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> I'm guessing MAC goes to googlegroups.com and reads the posts online.  He
> probably has not set up his email client to get individual emails.
>
> -Tim
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 5:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> Oh boy,well I can but try to do that,when you say E/Ml. do you mean
> when I post on the forum,that's how I would try to show them you
> see,we have just sold that one and it was only cheap pine,twisted and
> fluted and well sanded,we got 15.00. for that, so now we are going to
> buy a larger rope twist cutter from Roger,so I will get Clive to try
> to do it again and when it's finished we can proudly show all you
> chaps what a hope and a prayer can do,LOL, MAC.
>
> On Feb 17, 10:23 pm, "curt george"  wrote:
> > I can second that. Im not one of the most savvy guys on the computer, If I
> > can do anyone can! ;-)
>
> > Put it this way, if you have someone who can make grape designs with Tim's
> > wave attachment you surly can send an attachment (pictures) through this
> > e-mail.
>
> > C.A.G.
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 4:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > > once you get them on the computer just attach them to the return email
> > > just don't make them to large harder to send its easy once you have done
> > > it once
> > > Bill
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > > Cc: "curt george" 
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:11 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > > Hello chaps,I wish I could take pictures but I do not have a digital
> > > camera,I think my son maybe will buy one for me for my birthday,golly
> > > I do not even know how to get them into the forum if I do take
> > > them,must check wikipedia for that info, keep chippin, MAC.
>
> > > On Feb 17, 8:59 am, "curt george"  wrote:
> > >> Keep preaching,you are talking to the quire! ;-)
> > >> Take some pictures as well.
>
> > >> C.A.G.
>
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: "MACSWAG" 
> > >> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
> 
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:41 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > >> Hi Bill,I don't know if that was the deal in AUS.but I didn't expect
> > >> so much and was pleasantly surprised,having the extra parts means I
> > >> don't have to strip and assemble again,the turntable is a great
> > >> tool,I'm having lots of fun and wasting a lot of cheap pine but
> > >> gaining experience,one of our little group of chaps the elder downs
> > >> syndrome boy/man just loves using it,he has figured out a way in
> > >> conjunction with Tim's wavy gadget,how to make bunches of grapes on
> > >> the base of the large candle sticks we have been making,no maths, just
> > >> in his head and gut instinct,isn't that something,Ron the chap who has
> > >> had a stroke ,has been using the D/Kit.we got from a chap on the
> > >> forum,he is a very clever man,and though we have wasted a few sheets
> > >> it was exciting to see what we
> > >> could achieve with what cutters we have and what ones we will have to
> > >> buy,we were given this week a huge cutter,brand new,it is a multi
> > >> cutter and can do loads of designs,it's very heavy,but that is a
> > >> lovely gesture don't you think,we were also given a large shed dried
> > >> Yew log from a friend of Rev.David's,so we will have a lot of
> > >> discussion before we cut into that,it's so precious,I better stop now
> > >> or I'll get barred from the forum for chatting to long,keep chippin,
> > >> MAC.
>
> > >> On Feb 16, 8:28 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> > >> > Hi Mac I must have got ripped (again) I only got one set of 2 with my
> > >> 

Re: Unknown Parts

[MACSWAG]

Oh boy,well I can but try to do that,when you say E/Ml. do you mean
when I post on the forum,that's how I would try to show them you
see,we have just sold that one and it was only cheap pine,twisted and
fluted and well sanded,we got £15.00. for that, so now we are going to
buy a larger rope twist cutter from Roger,so I will get Clive to try
to do it again and when it's finished we can proudly show all you
chaps what a hope and a prayer can do,LOL, MAC.

On Feb 17, 10:23 pm, "curt george"  wrote:
> I can second that. Im not one of the most savvy guys on the computer, If I
> can do anyone can! ;-)
>
> Put it this way, if you have someone who can make grape designs with Tim's
> wave attachment you surly can send an attachment (pictures) through this
> e-mail.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > once you get them on the computer just attach them to the return email
> > just don't make them to large harder to send its easy once you have done
> > it once
> > Bill
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Cc: "curt george" 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:11 AM
> > Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > Hello chaps,I wish I could take pictures but I do not have a digital
> > camera,I think my son maybe will buy one for me for my birthday,golly
> > I do not even know how to get them into the forum if I do take
> > them,must check wikipedia for that info, keep chippin, MAC.
>
> > On Feb 17, 8:59 am, "curt george"  wrote:
> >> Keep preaching,you are talking to the quire! ;-)
> >> Take some pictures as well.
>
> >> C.A.G.
>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "MACSWAG" 
> >> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:41 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> >> Hi Bill,I don't know if that was the deal in AUS.but I didn't expect
> >> so much and was pleasantly surprised,having the extra parts means I
> >> don't have to strip and assemble again,the turntable is a great
> >> tool,I'm having lots of fun and wasting a lot of cheap pine but
> >> gaining experience,one of our little group of chaps the elder downs
> >> syndrome boy/man just loves using it,he has figured out a way in
> >> conjunction with Tim's wavy gadget,how to make bunches of grapes on
> >> the base of the large candle sticks we have been making,no maths, just
> >> in his head and gut instinct,isn't that something,Ron the chap who has
> >> had a stroke ,has been using the D/Kit.we got from a chap on the
> >> forum,he is a very clever man,and though we have wasted a few sheets
> >> it was exciting to see what we
> >> could achieve with what cutters we have and what ones we will have to
> >> buy,we were given this week a huge cutter,brand new,it is a multi
> >> cutter and can do loads of designs,it's very heavy,but that is a
> >> lovely gesture don't you think,we were also given a large shed dried
> >> Yew log from a friend of Rev.David's,so we will have a lot of
> >> discussion before we cut into that,it's so precious,I better stop now
> >> or I'll get barred from the forum for chatting to long,keep chippin,
> >> MAC.
>
> >> On Feb 16, 8:28 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> >> > Hi Mac I must have got ripped (again) I only got one set of 2 with my
> >> > revo
> >> > when I got mine and
> >> > share them between all
> >> > Bill
>
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "MACSWAG" 
> >> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"
> >> > 
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:14 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> >> > Hello chaps,hope you are all well, When I bought my Revo it had two
> >> > arms for the Rotary table ,two arms for a Router table,two arms for a
> >> > millimg table with
> >> > clamps,which comes in real handy for skinny lengths if yo use some
> >> > sort of thin work support,I also had vertical supports and clamps,when
> >> > Roger delivered them and I started assembling I thought I had to many
> >> > pieces but it all works in with each other in the end,I'm still
> >> > finding out what this gran

Re: Unknown Parts

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,I wish I could take pictures but I do not have a digital
camera,I think my son maybe will buy one for me for my birthday,golly
I do not even know how to get them into the forum if I do take
them,must check wikipedia for that info, keep chippin, MAC.

On Feb 17, 8:59 am, "curt george"  wrote:
> Keep preaching,you are talking to the quire! ;-)
> Take some pictures as well.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> Hi Bill,I don't know if that was the deal in AUS.but I didn't expect
> so much and was pleasantly surprised,having the extra parts means I
> don't have to strip and assemble again,the turntable is a great
> tool,I'm having lots of fun and wasting a lot of cheap pine but
> gaining experience,one of our little group of chaps the elder downs
> syndrome boy/man just loves using it,he has figured out a way in
> conjunction with Tim's wavy gadget,how to make bunches of grapes on
> the base of the large candle sticks we have been making,no maths, just
> in his head and gut instinct,isn't that something,Ron the chap who has
> had a stroke ,has been using the D/Kit.we got from a chap on the
> forum,he is a very clever man,and though we have wasted a few sheets
> it was exciting to see what we
> could achieve with what cutters we have and what ones we will have to
> buy,we were given this week a huge cutter,brand new,it is a multi
> cutter and can do loads of designs,it's very heavy,but that is a
> lovely gesture don't you think,we were also given a large shed dried
> Yew log from a friend of Rev.David's,so we will have a lot of
> discussion before we cut into that,it's so precious,I better stop now
> or I'll get barred from the forum for chatting to long,keep chippin,
> MAC.
>
> On Feb 16, 8:28 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> > Hi Mac I must have got ripped (again) I only got one set of 2 with my revo
> > when I got mine and
> > share them between all
> > Bill
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > Hello chaps,hope you are all well, When I bought my Revo it had two
> > arms for the Rotary table ,two arms for a Router table,two arms for a
> > millimg table with
> > clamps,which comes in real handy for skinny lengths if yo use some
> > sort of thin work support,I also had vertical supports and clamps,when
> > Roger delivered them and I started assembling I thought I had to many
> > pieces but it all works in with each other in the end,I'm still
> > finding out what this grand wee setup can do,it is an ongoing learning
> > curve,so anyone just starting with it use the forum regularly and ask
> > question all the time,there are a lot of silent lurkers looking who
> > never post but benefit from all the knowledge on there,so please post
> > any and all triumphs and mistakes you make and feel welcome from a
> > bunch of great chaps, MAC.
>
> > On Feb 16, 12:11 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> > > yes mine is the same I don't use them it has been so long I had
> > > forgotten.
> > > I
> > > don't use a guard legacy mills are a messy machine so I just vacuum up
> > > after.
> > > I tried different guards with out much success it use to make more
> > > shavings
> > > go down in the rails between the slides and stiffen up the carriage this
> > > is
> > > a real problem unless you keep on top of it.
> > > and yes the 2 brackets are to attach to a scrap board and attach to the
> > > machine for all your flat work or the rotary table if you have one.and I
> > > guess any thing else you can dream up I use em with little blocks for
> > > thin
> > > stoke support too
> > > as for the centring tool I didn't get one but if I find a pic I will
> > > post
> > > it
> > > Bill
>
> > > - Original Message -
>
> > > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:28 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > > Hi Steve,the metal part on the board is one of two that are supposed
> > > to be used for affixing a small dust sheet /protector either side of
> > > the router carriage
> > > but are useless and don't really fit at-tall,I just used a piec

DUST AND SHAVINGS

[MACSWAG]

On my Revo, as Bill said, it makes a lot of dust and chippins,well I
use a vacuum a mister Henry domestic one for the home,believe it or
not it would suck your hair off,anyway,on the front of the Router
carriage I drilled a hole and screwed a open ended bracket,like you
use on a shelf face for holding tools,the hose  just clips in and
rides along with the Router,it sucks eighty percent of the waste and
at the end of the day we don't have to much mess to clean up,just a we
bit of a tip I hope, MAC.

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Re: Unknown Parts

[MACSWAG]

Hi Bill,I don't know if that was the deal in AUS.but I didn't expect
so much and was pleasantly surprised,having the extra parts means I
don't have to strip and assemble again,the turntable is a great
tool,I'm having lots of fun and wasting a lot of cheap pine but
gaining experience,one of our little group of chaps the elder downs
syndrome boy/man just loves using it,he has figured out a way in
conjunction with Tim's wavy gadget,how to make bunches of grapes on
the base of the large candle sticks we have been making,no maths, just
in his head and gut instinct,isn't that something,Ron the chap who has
had a stroke ,has been using the D/Kit.we got from a chap on the
forum,he is a very clever man,and though we have wasted a few sheets
it was exciting to see what we
could achieve with what cutters we have and what ones we will have to
buy,we were given this week a huge cutter,brand new,it is a multi
cutter and can do loads of designs,it's very heavy,but that is a
lovely gesture don't you think,we were also given a large shed dried
Yew log from a friend of Rev.David's,so we will have a lot of
discussion before we cut into that,it's so precious,I better stop now
or I'll get barred from the forum for chatting to long,keep chippin,
MAC.

On Feb 16, 8:28 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> Hi Mac I must have got ripped (again)  I only got one set of  2 with my revo
> when I got mine and
> share them between all
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> Hello chaps,hope you are all well, When I bought my Revo it had two
> arms for the Rotary table ,two arms for a Router table,two arms for a
> millimg table with
> clamps,which comes in real handy for skinny lengths if yo use some
> sort of thin work support,I also had vertical supports and clamps,when
> Roger delivered them and I started assembling I thought I had to many
> pieces but it all works in with each other in the end,I'm still
> finding out what this grand wee setup can do,it is an ongoing learning
> curve,so anyone just starting with it use the forum regularly and ask
> question all the time,there are a lot of silent lurkers looking who
> never post but benefit from all the knowledge on there,so please post
> any and all triumphs and mistakes you make and feel welcome from a
> bunch of great chaps,  MAC.
>
> On Feb 16, 12:11 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> > yes mine is the same I don't use them it has been so long I had forgotten.
> > I
> > don't use a guard legacy mills are a messy machine so I just vacuum up
> > after.
> > I tried different guards with out much success it use to make more
> > shavings
> > go down in the rails between the slides and stiffen up the carriage this
> > is
> > a real problem unless you keep on top of it.
> > and yes the 2 brackets are to attach to a scrap board and attach to the
> > machine for all your flat work or the rotary table if you have one.and I
> > guess any thing else you can dream up I use em with little blocks for thin
> > stoke support too
> > as for the centring tool I didn't get one but if I find a pic I will post
> > it
> > Bill
>
> > - Original Message -
>
> > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> > Hi Steve,the metal part on the board is one of two that are supposed
> > to be used for affixing a small dust sheet /protector either side of
> > the router carriage
> > but are useless and don't really fit at-tall,I just used a piece of
> > builders membrane with strips cut into it and stuck on either side
> > with duct tape,works a treat,keep chippin,MAC.
>
> > On Feb 15, 2:34 pm, ITwoodwork  wrote:
> > > The white part is I suspect the safety guard and the metal bracket
> > > fits on the front of the REVO Router Tray see fig 72 page 22 of REVO
> > > Manual.
> > > Best regards
> > > Roger
>
> > > On Feb 15, 5:52 am, Steven Jacobs  wrote:
>
> > > > Well, the Revo arrived and I just finished assembly. Most was already
> > > > put
> > > > together so it was easy. I did watch the videos to make sure I was
> > > > doing
> > > > things correctly.
>
> > > > There are a few parts that I cannot figure out. They were not on
> > > > Legacys
> > > > site either.. If you know what they are and wher

Re: Unknown Parts

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,hope you are all well, When I bought my Revo it had two
arms for the Rotary table ,two arms for a Router table,two arms for a
millimg table with
clamps,which comes in real handy for skinny lengths if yo use some
sort of thin work support,I also had vertical supports and clamps,when
Roger delivered them and I started assembling I thought I had to many
pieces but it all works in with each other in the end,I'm still
finding out what this grand wee setup can do,it is an ongoing learning
curve,so anyone just starting with it use the forum regularly and ask
question all the time,there are a lot of silent lurkers looking who
never post but benefit from all the knowledge on there,so please post
any and all triumphs and mistakes you make and feel welcome from a
bunch of great chaps,  MAC.

On Feb 16, 12:11 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> yes mine is the same I don't use them it has been so long I had forgotten. I
> don't use a guard legacy mills are a messy machine so I just vacuum up
> after.
> I tried different guards with out much success it use to make more shavings
> go down in the rails  between the slides and stiffen up the carriage this is
> a real problem unless you keep on top of it.
> and yes the 2 brackets are to attach to a scrap board and attach to the
> machine for all your flat work or the rotary table if you have one.and I
> guess any thing else you can dream up I use em with little blocks for thin
> stoke support too
> as for the centring tool I didn't get one but if I find a pic I will post it
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Unknown Parts
>
> Hi Steve,the metal part on the board is one of two that are supposed
> to be used for affixing a small dust sheet /protector either side of
> the router carriage
> but are useless and don't really fit at-tall,I just used a piece of
> builders membrane with strips cut into it and stuck on either side
> with duct tape,works a treat,keep chippin,MAC.
>
> On Feb 15, 2:34 pm, ITwoodwork  wrote:
> > The white part is I suspect the safety guard and the metal bracket
> > fits on the front of the REVO Router Tray see fig 72 page 22 of REVO
> > Manual.
> > Best regards
> > Roger
>
> > On Feb 15, 5:52 am, Steven Jacobs  wrote:
>
> > > Well, the Revo arrived and I just finished assembly. Most was already
> > > put
> > > together so it was easy. I did watch the videos to make sure I was doing
> > > things correctly.
>
> > > There are a few parts that I cannot figure out. They were not on Legacys
> > > site either.. If you know what they are and where they go I would
> > > appreciate
> > > it..
>
> > > Thanks,
>
> > > Steve
>
> > > RevoParts.jpg
> > > 158KViewDownload
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Re: Unknown Parts

[MACSWAG]

Hi Steve,the metal part on the board is one of two that are supposed
to be used for affixing a small dust sheet /protector either side of
the router carriage
but are useless and don't really fit at-tall,I just used a piece of
builders membrane with strips cut into it and stuck on either side
with duct tape,works a treat,keep chippin,MAC.

On Feb 15, 2:34 pm, ITwoodwork  wrote:
> The white part is I suspect the safety guard and the metal bracket
> fits on the front of the REVO Router Tray see fig 72 page 22 of REVO
> Manual.
> Best regards
> Roger
>
> On Feb 15, 5:52 am, Steven Jacobs  wrote:
>
> > Well, the Revo arrived and I just finished assembly. Most was already put
> > together so it was easy. I did watch the videos to make sure I was doing
> > things correctly.
>
> > There are a few parts that I cannot figure out. They were not on Legacys
> > site either.. If you know what they are and where they go I would appreciate
> > it..
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Steve
>
> >  RevoParts.jpg
> > 158KViewDownload

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Re: Globe Rotary Table

[MACSWAG]

Hi David, I would like to see a picture of that or some plans  or
detail, MAC.

On Feb 11, 7:40 pm, "David Rutherford"  wrote:
> A few years ago there were several Globe Motored Rotary Tables sold if anyone 
> has one that not being used i would like to buy one .
> Contact me at s...@toast.net
> Dave

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magazine 7 & 8

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,has anyone got the No.7&8.magazines,I have the PDF.of one
to six inclusive,but I believe there were two more,I would like to
know what was in them,can anyone post them for d/loading,thanks,MAC.

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Re: Found a Revo..

[MACSWAG]

Welcome Steve to the mad Revo owner  forum,loads of fantastic  tips
and guidance
in the search box,I'm a Revo owner and love its performance,so with
two machines you should have a ball,MAC

On Feb 1, 6:31 pm, SteveEJ  wrote:
>   Hey all,
>   I am not well known here but I will be checking in more.. I just
> found and made a deal on a used REVO. It is about 2 years old and
> coming in from Oregon. I wanted a smaller manual mill to go along with
> my 900/CNC. Hopefully I will be asking a lot of questions soon!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
> Brighton, TN

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design kit

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,and Bill,well Iv'e got myself a D/Kt. from a forum member
and very quick postage too from America,also a set of 2xgears from a
very pleasant chap over there,the reason I wanted these is, Through my
church I have formed a self help group of disabled men,we are six
now,I'm now disabled but I wont go down easy,so we all do what we can
and it works,we also have two mature young chaps from the sheltered
house for men with Downs syndrome.they assemble and do what they
can,got a job to get them to go home,nice men,my mate RON,he has had a
stroke and one side of his body don't work anymore so he does the
sanding and loves it,he is also very brainy and he will use the D/
Kt.for us,just looking at some of the things it can do looks like we
will have to raise funds for more Router bits,our vicar the
Rev.David,is cajoling all his flock to give us any timber and storm
falls,and a chap who looks after the forest of Dean yew trees,"oldest
in the world" who is an ex villager is keeping for us any
stormfalls,so by the summer we should have a table of goodys to sell
at the church fete and the neighboring village fetes,so this forum has
been great for us,thank you all for donating your wisdom and tips,
keep chippin,  MAC.

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Re: Mike's walt Disney job

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,  LIL/T. that is super impressive,you seem to thrive on
deadlines and pressure,how do you come down and sleep at night,maybe a
wee tot eh,  MAC.

On Jan 20, 11:38 pm, myxpykalix1  wrote:
> COME ON...STOP BLOWING SMOKE UP THIS GUYS SKIRT!  HE MIGHT BEGIN TO
> THINK HE HAS SOME TALENT AND GET A BIG HEAD!!!
>
> JUST KIDDING...
>
> I guess i'll have to admit he actually knows what he's doing. Did you
> ever get that big duplicator machine hooked up? What's the deal on the
> shopbot? It seems like you have all this fancy machinery and you go
> back to doing it manually. Sometimes fancy machinery isn't always the
> best answer. I could not have done them that quickly on my shopbot and
> indexer. Good job Mike!

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quiet

[MACSWAG]

Hi anybody alive out there,it is so quiet on the forum it must be a
national holiday,

Hi diddle diddle the cat and the fiddle
the cat jumped over the cow
the little plate laughed to see such fun
and the dog ran away with the spoon.

Good ere innit,  MAC
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Re: design kit

[MACSWAG]

Hi Roger,I thought they were all sold out and not produced
anymore,please drop me a line with the price,also do you think $400.is
a fair asking price for a used Zaxis framework.and digital measure
thing with fittings,thank you.MAC



































On Jan 13, 11:57 pm, ITwoodwork  wrote:
> Hi Mac
> I have Design Kits coming in this week, yes and Legacy have them as
> well. Any CNC guys would be better off keeping them as they will have
> a use for them.
> Best regards
> Roger
>
> On Jan 13, 11:26 pm, MACSWAG  wrote:
>
> > Hi Bill
> > I went into the CNC.site never new it existed,well there is a few
> > mills for sale and one chap is selling a lot of accessories he doesn't
> > use anymore so I have dropped him an E/Ml. staing what I would like
> > and if he's interested to drop me a line,thank's for the info on the
> > site,wish I had known sooner,keep chippin.  MAC
>
> > On Jan 13, 10:03 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
>
> > > Also post request for one over 
> > > athttp://www.legacycncwoodworking.com/cnc-forum/ one of them might have 
> > > one
> > > they don't want and drop a line to magnate they still have it listed to 
> > > buy
> > > online  no waiting there.. its worth the money I use mine all the time
> > > Bill
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:27 AM
> > > Subject: Re: design kit
>
> > > Hi Bill,blimey you must have the patience of Job,how do you ever find
> > > time to sleep and work and do your hobby,I admire you handling all
> > > those children on your own,your a hero,yes I appreciate what you say
> > > now about the design kit,and I can see I'm going to be better off
> > > using one,so if anybody reading this in the
> > > UNITED KINGDOM.has moved on to CNC.and doesn't need their design kit
> > > anymore you have a ready buyer here,MAC.
>
> > > On Jan 13, 7:02 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> > > > Hi Mac yes I still use the revo its still the best for any small work iv
> > > > just been busy on other projects I do scroll sawing as well and I have
> > > > been
> > > > modifying my 900 and all stuff to do with Christmas my kids are home 
> > > > for 6
> > > > weeks over Christmas so I'm spending lots of time with them I'm a single
> > > > father of 4 so woodwork has to be pushed back for a little while till
> > > > school
> > > > starts again.
> > > > the designer kit is a must I didn't buy one at first either and greatly
> > > > regretted it but I have one now if you can get one I would. to save on
> > > > high
> > > > postage buy the kit and leave the graph paper out and buy it your self
> > > > from
> > > > a office supply shop or what I do is print my own on the computer. I 
> > > > think
> > > > I
> > > > read somewhere they don't have many left so don't delay if you want one
> > > > the great thing is you can see all before you even turn a chip better to
> > > > stuff up on paper than to make more fire wood I say
> > > > Bill
>
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:18 PM
> > > > Subject: design kit
>
> > > > > Hi chaps I've just been surfing the old posts in the forum and looking
> > > > > at all the chaps that have given themselves a lot of headaches
> > > > > switching to CNC,and learning all over again,at least with the manual
> > > > > setup you could use the Design Kit beforehand, Oh how I wish I had a
> > > > > design kit,then you could see any snags before you start,Bill
> > > > > Assiman,how do you get on with yours on the Revo,or maybe you don't
> > > > > use the Revo anymore,have you gone on to a larger machine,things seem
> > > > > quite in the forum so maybe you could post some article to entertain
> > > > > us from down under,keep chippin,MAC.
>
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Re: design kit

[MACSWAG]

Hi Bill
I went into the CNC.site never new it existed,well there is a few
mills for sale and one chap is selling a lot of accessories he doesn't
use anymore so I have dropped him an E/Ml. staing what I would like
and if he's interested to drop me a line,thank's for the info on the
site,wish I had known sooner,keep chippin.  MAC

On Jan 13, 10:03 pm, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> Also post request for one over 
> athttp://www.legacycncwoodworking.com/cnc-forum/ one of them might have one
> they don't want and drop a line to magnate they still have it listed to buy
> online  no waiting there.. its worth the money I use mine all the time
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:27 AM
> Subject: Re: design kit
>
> Hi Bill,blimey you must have the patience of Job,how do you ever find
> time to sleep and work and do your hobby,I admire you handling all
> those children on your own,your a hero,yes I appreciate what you say
> now about the design kit,and I can see I'm going to be better off
> using one,so if anybody reading this in the
> UNITED KINGDOM.has moved on to CNC.and doesn't need their design kit
> anymore you have a ready buyer here,MAC.
>
> On Jan 13, 7:02 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> > Hi Mac yes I still use the revo its still the best for any small work iv
> > just been busy on other projects I do scroll sawing as well and I have
> > been
> > modifying my 900 and all stuff to do with Christmas my kids are home for 6
> > weeks over Christmas so I'm spending lots of time with them I'm a single
> > father of 4 so woodwork has to be pushed back for a little while till
> > school
> > starts again.
> > the designer kit is a must I didn't buy one at first either and greatly
> > regretted it but I have one now if you can get one I would. to save on
> > high
> > postage buy the kit and leave the graph paper out and buy it your self
> > from
> > a office supply shop or what I do is print my own on the computer. I think
> > I
> > read somewhere they don't have many left so don't delay if you want one
> > the great thing is you can see all before you even turn a chip better to
> > stuff up on paper than to make more fire wood I say
> > Bill
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:18 PM
> > Subject: design kit
>
> > > Hi chaps I've just been surfing the old posts in the forum and looking
> > > at all the chaps that have given themselves a lot of headaches
> > > switching to CNC,and learning all over again,at least with the manual
> > > setup you could use the Design Kit beforehand, Oh how I wish I had a
> > > design kit,then you could see any snags before you start,Bill
> > > Assiman,how do you get on with yours on the Revo,or maybe you don't
> > > use the Revo anymore,have you gone on to a larger machine,things seem
> > > quite in the forum so maybe you could post some article to entertain
> > > us from down under,keep chippin,MAC.
>
> > 
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Re: design kit

[MACSWAG]

Hi Bill,blimey you must have the patience of Job,how do you ever find
time to sleep and work and do your hobby,I admire you handling all
those children on your own,your a hero,yes I appreciate what you say
now about the design kit,and I can see I'm going to be better off
using one,so if anybody reading this in the
UNITED KINGDOM.has moved on to CNC.and doesn't need their design kit
anymore you have a ready buyer here,MAC.

On Jan 13, 7:02 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> Hi Mac yes I still use the revo its still the best for any small work iv
> just been busy on other projects I do scroll sawing as well and I have been
> modifying my 900 and all stuff to do with Christmas my kids are home for 6
> weeks over Christmas so I'm spending lots of time with them I'm a single
> father of 4 so woodwork has to be pushed back for a little while till school
> starts again.
>  the designer kit is a must I didn't buy one at first either and greatly
> regretted it but I have one now if you can get one I would.  to save on high
> postage buy the kit and leave the graph paper out and buy it your self from
> a office supply shop or what I do is print my own on the computer. I think I
> read somewhere they don't have many left so don't delay if you want one
> the great thing is you can see all before you even turn a chip better to
> stuff up on paper than to make more fire wood I say
> Bill
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:18 PM
> Subject: design kit
>
> > Hi chaps I've just been surfing the old posts in the forum and looking
> > at all the chaps that have given themselves a lot of headaches
> > switching to CNC,and learning all over again,at least with the manual
> > setup you could use the Design Kit beforehand, Oh how I wish I had a
> > design kit,then you could see any snags before you start,Bill
> > Assiman,how do you get on with yours on the Revo,or maybe you don't
> > use the Revo anymore,have you gone on to a larger machine,things seem
> > quite in the forum so maybe you could post some article to entertain
> > us from down under,keep chippin,MAC.
>
> 
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design kit

[MACSWAG]

Hi chaps I've just been surfing the old posts in the forum and looking
at all the chaps that have given themselves a lot of headaches
switching to CNC,and learning all over again,at least with the manual
setup you could use the Design Kit beforehand, Oh how I wish I had a
design kit,then you could see any snags before you start,Bill
Assiman,how do you get on with yours on the Revo,or maybe you don't
use the Revo anymore,have you gone on to a larger machine,things seem
quite in the forum so maybe you could post some article to entertain
us from down under,keep chippin,MAC.
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Re: base for candle stick

[MACSWAG]

Thanks Bill,that gives me some idea of the set-up,and bye the way I
did as instructed by you on the making of the spiraled c/sticks, well
I now have to make four for sale by a freind,so it all helps the
pension,I bet you are sweltering down there,we are nee deep in snow
and ice,very dodgy for my old legs,good on you cobber,MAC.

On Jan 8, 2:36 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> Yes you do just imagine your shining a bright light behind your job and the
> shadow it would cast on the wall is what your pattern would look then like
> cut up the middle so you have a flat to clamp on your template follower
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: base for candle stick
>
> Oh boy C.A.G.now template working is another matter,I have the latest
> follower
> supplied by my very helpful supplier Roger,but I will ask you a maybe
> seems stupid question,do I cut a template with that design as a flat
> piece of material,I think maybe I'm not that advanced yet but would
> appreciate a confidence boost instruct,I do have the long cutters
> again supplied by Roger,very helpful chap,
> I did reply to Greg in the positive but I don't see it here,maybe I
> blew it,penalty of getting on a bit,thanks for your post and Tim is so
> helpful,I'll get it right yet, MAC.
>
> On Jan 7, 11:40 pm, "curt george"  wrote:
> > Tim is correct, But If I understand your question correctly, you need to
> > cut
> > from the side of the turning. not the top.
> > Dose the Revo have a template follower? if It dose you can make the shape
> > of
> > your base out of 1/4" material and use the template follower to make the
> > shape, and then you can also use that shape to reed your base. At least
> > that is the safest way that I know.
> > The reeding bit has a bearing that maintains the proper depth, (true) but
> > on
> > small turnings, the bearing is bound to fall into one of your groves and
> > make a bad mark or not proper depth. By using the template you will not
> > run
> > into this problem.
>
> > When cutting from the side, make a lot of light cuts when roughing the
> > material out ( I use a 1/2" long end mill cutter bit, my bit is 6" long,
> > it
> > is ideal for cutting from the side, Think of it more like milling than
> > lathe
> > turings.).
> > When reeding, make sure your bit is dead center of your turning.( I always
> > line up the live center tail stock with the reeding bits point.)
> > Everything else is a piece of cake.
> > "O" One more thing, set your Y axis stops, just in case you forget, so
> > that
> > the cutter can not run into the side rails. (mor for larger turning.)
>
> > Good luck and send us some picture when done.
>
> > Gota run I need to shovel more SNOW! ;-(
>
> > C.A.G.
>
> > ----- Original Message -
> > From: "Tim Krause" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: base for candle stick
>
> > > Make your shape and use Magnate's side reeding bits.
>
> > >http://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGroup&theID=202
>
> > > -Tim
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:16 PM
> > > Subject: base for candle stick
>
> > >> Hi chaps,I want to make a base for my sticks but I want it to be
> > >> reeded and shaped like a volcano for lack of a better description,how
> > >> would I do this,I 'm working on a Revo,great wee tool,and also still
> > >> looking for a 2X.set of gears,I'm sure someone
> > >> must have a spare set now with all this CNC.lark roaring ahead,any and
> > >> all welcome to input thanks, MAC.
>
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: base for candle stick

[MACSWAG]

Oh boy C.A.G.now template working is another matter,I have the latest
follower
supplied by my very helpful supplier Roger,but I will ask you a maybe
seems stupid question,do I cut a template with that design as a flat
piece of material,I think maybe I'm not that advanced yet but would
appreciate a confidence boost instruct,I do have the long cutters
again supplied by Roger,very helpful chap,
I did reply to Greg in the positive but I don't see it here,maybe I
blew it,penalty of getting on a bit,thanks for your post and Tim is so
helpful,I'll get it right yet, MAC.

On Jan 7, 11:40 pm, "curt george"  wrote:
> Tim is correct, But If I understand your question correctly, you need to cut
> from the side of the turning. not the top.
> Dose the Revo have a template follower? if It dose you can make the shape of
> your base out of 1/4" material and use the template follower to make the
> shape, and then you can also use that shape to reed your base.  At least
> that is the safest way that I know.
> The reeding bit has a bearing that maintains the proper depth, (true) but on
> small turnings, the bearing is bound to fall into one of your groves and
> make a bad mark or not proper depth. By using the template you will not run
> into this problem.
>
> When cutting from the side, make a lot of light cuts when roughing the
> material out ( I use a 1/2" long end mill cutter bit, my bit is 6" long, it
> is ideal for cutting from the side, Think of it more like milling than lathe
> turings.).
> When reeding, make sure your bit is dead center of your turning.( I always
> line up the live center tail stock with the reeding bits point.)
> Everything else is a piece of cake.
> "O" One more thing, set your Y axis stops, just in case you forget, so that
> the cutter can not run into the side rails. (mor for larger turning.)
>
> Good luck and send us some picture when done.
>
> Gota run I need to shovel more SNOW! ;-(
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Krause" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:43 PM
> Subject: Re: base for candle stick
>
> > Make your shape and use Magnate's side reeding bits.
>
> >http://magnate.net/index.cfm?event=showProductGroup&theID=202
>
> > -Tim
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:16 PM
> > Subject: base for candle stick
>
> >> Hi chaps,I want to make a base for my sticks but I want it to be
> >> reeded and shaped like a volcano for lack of a better description,how
> >> would I do this,I 'm working on a Revo,great wee tool,and also still
> >> looking for a 2X.set of gears,I'm sure someone
> >> must have a spare set now with all this CNC.lark roaring ahead,any and
> >> all welcome to input thanks, MAC.
>
> > 
> > 
>
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base for candle stick

[MACSWAG]

Hi chaps,I want to make a base for my sticks but I want it to be
reeded and shaped like a volcano for lack of a better description,how
would I do this,I 'm working on a Revo,great wee tool,and also still
looking for a 2X.set of gears,I'm sure someone
must have a spare set now with all this CNC.lark roaring ahead,any and
all welcome to input thanks, MAC.
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Re: New Arty Machine

[MACSWAG]

Very droll Aaren,   mac

On Jan 6, 5:38 pm, ITwoodwork  wrote:
> Any one out there a betting man?
>
> I am thinking of opening a book on how long it will be before someone
> comes in saying they can build for peanuts, etc, etc.
>
> Ciao
>
> On Jan 6, 5:14 pm, John Hennen  wrote:
>
> > Click here to see a video on the
> > Arty
>
> > The Arty is going to cost 8,695.00.  but has an introductory price of
> > 7,995.00.
>
> > So i guess it depends on what you want do to and your price point.
>
> > John
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Re: STIFFENING UP A REVO

[MACSWAG]

Hi chaps,both good ideas I will use,I was thinking along similar
lines,it's
best to know first that someone else has done it and got results,thank-
you for the posts,MAC.

On Jan 6, 10:46 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> when you say moves a lot I'm assuming you mean moving across the bench I
> screwed mine down that helped but try removing the handle that stops a lot
> of movement when quick traversing  not that you want to be putting the
> handle on and off all the time
> Bill
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Krause" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 9:40 PM
> Subject: Re: STIFFENING UP A REVO
>
> > Why not a cross brace across the front and back of the machine?
>
> > -Tim
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:48 PM
> > Subject: STIFFENING UP A REVO
>
> >> Hi chaps,I have Revo as you probably know by now,well to save all the
> >> laborious winding back and forwards on a long twist I mounted a
> >> power-drill with variable speeds and reverse switch,I also mounted an
> >> older Black and Decker model D520.which sits in its own frame,onto
> >> wood block to level with the acme screw (lead screw)I use a step down
> >> to reduce revs on the D520. but the Revo moves a lot with the revs,has
> >> anyone stiffened up a Revo,and what did you find the best
> >> solution,thanks,MAC.
>
> > 
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Re: New Arty Machine

[MACSWAG]

WOW THAT LOOKS A WINNER,bet it will cost an arm and a leg,mac

On Jan 6, 12:21 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Has anyone else seen the new "Arty" cnc machine from Legacy?  Does any one 
> know the price?  Appears to be developed for the home shop guys.
>
> Bed Capacity: 18" x 36"
>
> Turning Capacity: 6" swing diameter x 36"
>
> Footprint: Approximately 36" x 54"
>
> http://www.legacycncwoodworking.com/arty-cnc/
>
> -Tim
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Re: 2xgears

[MACSWAG]

Hi Bill, yes they are really expensive for what they are,my supplier
has some but I'm on very tight pension so I'm just hoping somebody
has  upgraded and they find theirs surplus to requirements,I might get
lucky,MAC

On Jan 5, 9:00 pm, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> I don't make any gears that Legacy has to offer.  If they stop selling those
> gears, I will look into making them.
>
> I tried to find an old post of mine that showed how to make a poorman's
> multiplier using stock gears. Both Curt and I made one. It was really easy.
> Curt used 5/16" keystock to hold a pair of gears together.  A hole was
> drilled down the center of the keystock to make a bearing.  Those gears were
> mounted to the arm that holds the directional gear.  I really wish I could
> find the original thread and photos.   I lost the photo's of my version in a
> HD crash.   Maybe Curt has a copy or his original photos.
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: 2xgears
>
> > Mac
> > if no one has any give drop Tim a line he may be able to have a set made
> for
> > you cheaper than they are to buy new
> > Bill
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:35 AM
> > Subject: 2xgears
>
> > > Hi all and Happy new year, question, does anyone have a 2X GEAR
> > > SET. they want to sell,I'M in the U.K.  maybe someone who has upgraded
> > > or gone completely CNC.will now have them spare,why I ask is I have
> > > been surfing old posts and spotted fast eddie did a deal not so long
> > > ago,pity I missed that,so if anybody still wants to deal just drop me
> > > a line,thanks,mac.
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STIFFENING UP A REVO

[MACSWAG]

Hi chaps,I have Revo as you probably know by now,well to save all the
laborious winding back and forwards on a long twist I mounted a
power-drill with variable speeds and reverse switch,I also mounted an
older Black and Decker model D520.which sits in its own frame,onto
wood block to level with the acme screw (lead screw)I use a step down
to reduce revs on the D520. but the Revo moves a lot with the revs,has
anyone stiffened up a Revo,and what did you find the best
solution,thanks,MAC.
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2xgears

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Hi all and Happy new year, question, does anyone have a 2X GEAR
SET. they want to sell,I'M in the U.K.  maybe someone who has upgraded
or gone completely CNC.will now have them spare,why I ask is I have
been surfing old posts and spotted fast eddie did a deal not so long
ago,pity I missed that,so if anybody still wants to deal just drop me
a line,thanks,mac.
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Re: 71/2"pitch

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,what a dimo I am,I had it right all along,what I was
expecting was a long extended pitch,like a single strip of seven and a
half inches,instead it was cutting around for the length of that
71/2",just like a normal twist, if that makes sense,I want to make an
elongated twist with just two bines so the pitch I need is in the
2xgears.which I will buy in the new year,to near Xmas.now,thanks for
your postings,keep chippin,MAC.

On Dec 22, 2:11 am, LiLtwisted  wrote:
> Have a look at the chart to see if you are in the same ballpark with the
> gears.  To really tell your pitch, set something on the rails and allow
> your carriage to pull away from it by turning the hand crank.  Mark a
> very specific spot on the gear that you will be able to align it back to
> when it comes around on it's first rotation.  As it lines up, measure
> the distance your carriage moved from the block on the rail.  If you are
> not sure if you can be so precise,   crank the handle until there has
> been 4 revolutions of the stock and measure the distance and divide by 4
> as an average.  This will tell you if you are really making the pitch
> you think you should be doing.  Confused yet?
>
> Mike
> OK
>
> MACSWAG wrote:
> >Hi to aussiman in particular,Bill on thre Revo it states with the
> >standard gear I can make a71/2" pitch,well I cant get it,I use the
> >smallest of the gears with the standard gear to give the slowest
> >longest spiral but I do not get 71/2" inches pitch,can you help,or any
> >of the chaps looking in please chip in if you so feel,I would love to
> >have the 2xmultiplier set but will have to wait till next year
> >now,also the 4xmultiplier gear though looking at that on their site
> >it
> >doesn't look any different from the standard set-up with the reverse
> >or left hand spiral gears,the picture is not to good,is there another
> >gear tucked in behind the large middle gear,any info please post,MAC.
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71/2"pitch

[MACSWAG]

Hi to aussiman in particular,Bill on thre Revo it states with the
standard gear I can make a71/2" pitch,well I cant get it,I use the
smallest of the gears with the standard gear to give the slowest
longest spiral but I do not get 71/2" inches pitch,can you help,or any
of the chaps looking in please chip in if you so feel,I would love to
have the 2xmultiplier set but will have to wait till next year
now,also the 4xmultiplier gear though looking at that on their site
it
doesn't look any different from the standard set-up with the reverse
or left hand spiral gears,the picture is not to good,is there another
gear tucked in behind the large middle gear,any info please post,MAC.

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Re: Legacy site

[MACSWAG]

Blimey Art,don't chuck in the towel all the guys on here really need
your input and encouragement,just post once a day and ignore the
buzzzez till you have the time at night,and it's so sad to hear of
someone having to sell his tools to make ends meet,that is the
pit's,hope the lord smiles on him in the new year,a Merry Xmas and
happy new year to everyone,god bless and keep you all safe. MAC.

On Dec 21, 5:45 pm, LiLtwisted  wrote:
> Hello Art
> You have had a great impact on a lot of people with the things you keep
> on your site.  If it means loosing this resource, I will take it over
> from you if we can keep everything where it is.  There are quite a few
> people that have things bookmarked and need to be able to reference this
> information.  I really don't have the time but will do it as a last
> resort.  If anyone else would like to take it, Hats off and hand-off to
> them.  Please, some one with the desire step up and help the group.  I
> am the safety shoot here, not the volunteer.
>
> Mike
> OK
>
> Art Ransom wrote:
> > Would anyone be willing to take over the Legacy section of my site?  I
> > haven't had the time to post the new things members have come up
> > with.  It can be moved to your site or left on mine.
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Re: World funniest moments: animals, nov. 2009

[MACSWAG]

F/OFF PRAT DOG S**T

On Dec 6, 8:47 am, SaraSimens  wrote:
> this is the funniest shit i've evere seen)http://yy.vc/funniestmome

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Re: ribbon twist

[MACSWAG]

Hi LIL-T.is this just milled like an ordinary spiral twist,I cant seem
to get my head or eyes round that design,I think I'm thick tonight,but
that is exactly the cut I want to do,post a bit more if you feel like
it,thanks ,MAC.

On Dec 13, 8:35 pm, LiLtwisted  wrote:
> Here is the legacy link and a quick 
> picture.http://legacywoodworking.com/products.cfm?product=46
> On the Pillow cut the rope bit works best.  You will have to make a
> right hand  cut as well as a left hand  cut.  The pillows look
> the best if the pitch is 2X the diameter.  I.E. 4" stock use an 8"
> pitch.  Or as close as you can get to twice so the math works out with
> your blade size and your number of starts.  In the example of an 8"
> pitch I would cut it at 7.5 if I was using a 1.5" rope bit.  this would
> make it a 5 start piece  5 X 1.5 = 7.5  That is pretty close to our 8
> target.  Have fun
>
> Mike
> OK
>
> MACSWAG wrote:
> >Hi Bill & C.A.G, The "pilaster dogs" are very similar to the little
> >square index mounting dogs you use on the Revo.for making
> >spindles,only they are reversed with holes on the side so as you can
> >mount four sides with pieces of board and mill just like you would a
> >ordinary spindle, if you want a better description than I can give go
> >into the legacy site and on their supply list you can actually see
> >them,Euro Roger will have them I should think,To C.A.G.hello friend,I
> >would like to try and make the pillow cut,I have seen it elswhere and
> >wondered how it was done,how do you get the puffed up pillow
> >effect,does one use a plunge roundover bit,also what is the proceedure
> >for making the reverse or do you just take out and remount the
> >opposite way round,if that makes sense,thanks for all your
> >postings,they have been a great help, MAC.
>
> >On Dec 9, 11:30 pm, "curt george"  wrote:
>
> >>Hello everyone.
> >>Bill very nice work, on your ribbon twist.
> >>I too have only made a few of these turnings. mainly because of the waste of
> >>the wood and time it takes to make.And to be fully honest with everyone out
> >>there, I make a lot of canes,and for me, this cut just isn't worth the
> >>time/effort.
> >>I am sorry if I sound like the party popper but there is very little that I
> >>can think of that is worse than spending 2 1/2 hours making this cut, only
> >>to have it break on the final passes.
> >>Having said that, I do like the look of the ribbon twist cut. but I believe
> >>that steam bending would be much faster, and the wood is so much stronger,
> >>than anything that you can do on the Legacy with this cutting method.
>
> >>Now Mac. if you want a neat looking look spindle, by cutting from the side,
> >>(like you do when making the ribbon twist cut.) is to stop short and index
> >>the part more to make a twisted square, its basically the same cut but there
> >>is more wood left to re-enforce the spindle,so it becomes more stable and
> >>more useable for different projects. a long 1/2" straight cutting bit is
> >>what I would use, I believe the longer the pitch I can get would give you a
> >>better looking spindle.
>
> >>I just thought of a neat look that I have not ever tried. How about making
> >>this square twisted cut, and then reversing the cutting pattern, making a
> >>square pillow block (or pineapple) pattern. Now that just might be a neat
> >>trick?
> >>What do you guys think?
>
> >>Woops! Its dinner time.
> >>talk to you latter.
> >>C.A.G.
>
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> >>To: 
> >>Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:37 AM
> >>Subject: Re: ribbon twist
>
> >>>Hi Mac this is the only example I did of a ribbon twist just to see if I
> >>>could do it.I made it from a laminated piece of off cut pine from another
> >>>job. I did it with a long series 1/2 inch strait bit . but I think a
> >>>spiral
> >>>bit might be better less chatter Im going to try that next time. some of
> >>>the
> >>>other guys could clue you in on the best bits they probably have done more
> >>>of them than me. I have a candelabra im going to do using a ribbon twist
> >>>out
> >>>of flame box elder but im waiting for the wood to dry its still a bit
> >>>green.
> >>>the only tip really I have is to rough it out bit at a time to reduce
> >>>chattering my last full cut to clean it up was very light just enough to
> 

Re: Revo

[MACSWAG]

Hi all, Steve,can't you just disengage the CNC.from your Legacy and
make small stuff with that,as far as I can see the big ones are mostly
used for commercial work anyway,the Revo and Revo Craftmaster are the
same machine only the Craftmaster package came with extra gears and
pen making gear,it is a complete unit,EG.router table, vertical
clamping gear,dovetail gear,tenon/morticing
gear,and a few other bits and bobs,I bought the turntable to go with
it,what a boon thatis,also TIM.supplys a great little gadget you will
just love,it enables you to do wavy cuts of any description,great fun
believe me,I will drop Roger a line right now and ask him to contact
you through the forum if he has a Revo grab it you will be more than
pleased with what this machine is capable of,I've made all my Xmas
presents on mine,I'm retired you see and the state pension is c**p,so
I have to spread it out a bit,so get in there and good luck, MAC

On Dec 16, 7:27 am, SteveEJ  wrote:
> Nice machine and good price too. I will have to seriously consider
> that for detail work as it has a lot of potential.
>
> The brain is getting a little funky with the pain meds. Guess I need
> to quit for the day. Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll still try
> to get a revo or craftmaster if I can find one. I need to prepare for
> my second retirement.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Steve
>
> On Dec 16, 12:30 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
>
> > They were the same machine, but different accessories.  Are you just doing
> > pens? Take a look at Jerry Beall's Pen Wizard. It does spirals and
> > reciprocated work.  http://www.bealltool.com/products/penwizard/penwiz.php.
> > He's got a few videos on youtube to see the machine in action.  I'm not sure
> > what the next step up is.
>
> > -Tim
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "SteveEJ" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: Revo
>
> > Hopefully he will. There aren't any pictures of the discontinued
> > models anymore. Was the Craftmaster and Revo basically the same? Would
> > there be any alternatives to them made by others?
>
> > Steve
>
> > On Dec 16, 12:04 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> > > No, RJR studios is here in the states.http://www.rjrstudios.com. However,
> > > just checking their web site, I see the Revo is now removed from their
> > site.
> > > Maybe they decided to accept that the Revo is dead.
>
> > > Roger in Europe is a dealer of Legacy products. I believe he has some
> > stock
> > > available on the Revos. I bet Roger will chime in here. I know he reads
> > > the list.
>
> > > -Tim
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "SteveEJ" 
> > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:50 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Revo
>
> > > Now thst would be very interesting..
>
> > > RJR, is that the europe marketing arm of Legacy?
>
> > > Steve
>
> > > On Dec 15, 11:45 pm, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> > > > Well, in theory the Revo is discontinued from Legacy. The folks at RJR
> > are
> > > > taking orders for the Revo model. IF a certain level is met, Andy will
> > > make
> > > > them. How funny would it be to have to order one from Roger in Europe to
> > > > get one faster.
>
> > > > I'm also in the market for a smaller machine. I've actually considered
> > > > chopping my 900 down in length. I've also considered making a smaller
> > > > machine from scratch that uses a smaller router. A cross between a Revo
> > > and
> > > > Legacy's old model 200 if you new what that looked like. Something that
> > > has
> > > > finer and tighter movements than the rest of Legacy's line. Designed for
> > > > small finer work.
>
> > > > -Tim
>
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "SteveEJ" 
> > > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:52 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: 120 tooth gear
>
> > > > Change of subject. Anyone have any info on the Revo or Revo
> > > > Craftmaster? I would be interested in buying one if I could find one
> > > > in good condition with manuals, etc. Having the 900 with the standard
> > > > CNC is good but I still want to be able to turn some smaller parts out
> > > > by hand. I really like turning pens and can use my lathe now but would
> > > > like to do some spirals with a smaller machine.
>
> > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > Steve
>
> > > > On Dec 15, 10:40 pm, SteveEJ  wrote:
> > > > > Tim,
> > > > > I received the package. They look really good. I just had foot
> > > > > surgery so it will be a little while before I can install them but I
> > > > > can see that they will make height adjustments a lot easier.
>
> > > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > > Steve
>
> > > > > On Dec 8, 8:32 am, SteveEJ  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Tim,
> > > > > > I am interested in the Height Adjustment tool(s). Email me the price
> > > > > > details if you don't mind. I live in West Tennessee.
>
> > > > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > > > Steve
>
> > > > > > On Dec 8, 12:46 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Hi All,
>
> >

Re: ribbon twist

[MACSWAG]

Hi Bill & C.A.G, The "pilaster dogs" are very similar to the little
square index mounting dogs you use on the Revo.for making
spindles,only they are reversed with holes on the side so as you can
mount four sides with pieces of board and mill just like you would a
ordinary spindle, if you want a better description than I can give go
into the legacy site and on their supply list you can actually see
them,Euro Roger will have them I should think,To C.A.G.hello friend,I
would like to try and make the pillow cut,I have seen it elswhere and
wondered how it was done,how do you get the puffed up pillow
effect,does one use a plunge roundover bit,also what is the proceedure
for making the reverse or do you just take out and remount the
opposite way round,if that makes sense,thanks for all your
postings,they have been a great help, MAC.

On Dec 9, 11:30 pm, "curt george"  wrote:
> Hello everyone.
> Bill very nice work, on your ribbon twist.
> I too have only made a few of these turnings. mainly because of the waste of
> the wood and time it takes to make.And to be fully honest with everyone out
> there, I make a lot of canes,and for me, this cut just isn't worth the
> time/effort.
> I am sorry if I sound like the party popper but there is very little that I
> can think of that is worse than spending 2 1/2 hours making this cut, only
> to have it break on the final passes.
> Having said that, I do like the look of the ribbon twist cut. but I believe
> that steam bending would be much faster, and the wood is so much stronger,
> than anything that you can do on the Legacy with this cutting method.
>
> Now Mac. if you want a neat looking look spindle, by cutting from the side,
> (like you do when making the ribbon twist cut.) is to stop short and index
> the part more to make a twisted square, its basically the same cut but there
> is more wood left to re-enforce the spindle,so it becomes more stable and
> more useable for different projects. a long 1/2" straight cutting bit is
> what I would use, I believe the longer the pitch I can get would give you a
> better looking spindle.
>
> I just thought of a neat look that I have not ever tried. How about making
> this square twisted cut, and then reversing the cutting pattern, making a
> square pillow block (or pineapple) pattern. Now that just might be a neat
> trick?
> What do you guys think?
>
> Woops! Its dinner time.
> talk to you latter.
> C.A.G.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:37 AM
> Subject: Re: ribbon twist
>
> > Hi Mac this is the only example I did of a ribbon twist just to see if I
> > could do it.I made it from a laminated piece of off cut pine from another
> > job. I did it with a long series 1/2 inch strait bit . but I think a
> > spiral
> > bit might be better less chatter Im going to try that next time. some of
> > the
> > other guys could clue you in on the best bits they probably have done more
> > of them than me. I have a candelabra im going to do using a ribbon twist
> > out
> > of flame box elder but im waiting for the wood to dry its still a bit
> > green.
> > the only tip really I have is to rough it out bit at a time to reduce
> > chattering my last full cut to clean it up was very light just enough to
> > smooth it up. I think it was a 6 inch pitch and made from a 3 inch square
> > blank.
> > just so you know if you don't know a ribbon twist is done from the side
> > with
> > a long strait bit
> > hope this helps
> > Bill
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:31 PM
> > Subject: ribbon twist
>
> >> Hi chapshope you are all well,this is basically to "aussiman"
> >> Hi,Ive been trawling old posts and saw your starter on ribbon twists,
> >> how did you get on, I could use any info you have learned,settings-
> >> gears etc.also when you originally posted I thought you meant square
> >> spirals like square lamps and such,well I been looking through the
> >> posts and catalog,could you use Pilaster dogs to do spiraling or any
> >> other design,then when you separate them
> >> cut the units at a mitered angle to fit together and there you would
> >> have a square unit,what do you think?, anyone else can chip in with
> >> comments if they so feel,
> >> keep chippin,  MAC.
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ribbon twist

[MACSWAG]

Hi chapshope you are all well,this is basically to "aussiman"
Hi,Ive been trawling old posts and saw your starter on ribbon twists,
how did you get on, I could use any info you have learned,settings-
gears etc.also when you originally posted I thought you meant square
spirals like square lamps and such,well I been looking through the
posts and catalog,could you use Pilaster dogs to do spiraling or any
other design,then when you separate them
cut the units at a mitered angle to fit together and there you would
have a square unit,what do you think?, anyone else can chip in with
comments if they so feel,
keep chippin,  MAC.

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Re: the revo

[MACSWAG]

Thanks for the post BILL,now wouldn't you think that the boys at big
L.would have set up something as clear and as good as that,I've made
the stops,work a treat,
I never thought of putting the router on sideways on the plate,no
wonder I couldn't
fit my plunge bar,oh boy what a thicko says you,I have been practising
with my turntable this week,making grooves in flat pine for
candlesticks,I found out by mistake if I do not hold the turning
handle still,there is a little drift and the pattern moves of
center,if I leave it alone all the next groves I get a real nice
pattern,so a wee bit of tip.LOL.  MAC.

On Nov 29, 11:57 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> this is for you Mac I know your new to the revo and
> any revo owners out there, you  might like to look at this nothing new unless 
> your new to the machine
> but I like the pictures as they say there worth a thousand words I found this 
> while browsing the net
> Bill
>
> http://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/print.asp?p=725

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Re: Happy thanksgiveing everyone

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,my supplier EURO ROGER.supplied me with a 1/2" extension
that also takes a1/4" collet and lets you use smaller cutters as
well,it is a balanced
tool and is never out of my Router,gives loads of extra length,contact
him for one,it is very reasonably priced,MAC.

On Nov 27, 12:30 am, Aaren  wrote:
> Happy Thanksgiving everyone. :)
>
> Love the poem, Mike!
>
> On Nov 26, 9:51 am, LiLtwisted  wrote:
>
> > Thanks Curt
> > Happy Thanksgiving to one and all,
>
> > A Legacy Toast
>
> > May your stock be twisted,
> > Your rails on the level.
> > Your router never listed
> > Your cut never beveled
>
> > At project completion
> > Never tip your hat
> > Never show them the plans
> > Say "I planned it like that"
>
> > Cheers
>
> > curt george wrote:
> > > The holidays season is now here.
> > > I wanted to wish everyone the best for this holiday.
>
> > > Also I wanted to let everyone know what I just found on the internet a
> > > cheep router extension
> > >http://www.eagleamerica.com/product/415-0660/best_sellers for $29.99
> > > I have not idea on how well it works but for that price I figure you
> > > cant loose!
>
> > > Its time for me to go to my in-laws for an early dinner. ITS TIME TO EAT!
> > > Happy Thanksgiving.
> > > C.A.G.
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Re: WAVY CUTS

[MACSWAG]

Thank you chaps,that is the clarification I needed,I've just printed
these reply's
off so I'll put them in my ring binder and take them out to the shed
when I start again,here's a wee question, I have made a circular base
for a large candlestick,if I raise one end of the bars and rout with a
beader towards the center each time will it give me a fading runout
towards the center,like a scoop
effect,if that makes sense,I should think similar to a Rosette,what do
you think,
MAC.

On Nov 13, 12:02 am, "curt george"  wrote:
> Thanks Tim for re-posting Bills post  .That is exactly what I was referring 
> too. Moving the carriage with a rapid return, instead of re-winding the screw 
> back to the beginning of the cut.
>
> Mac What I should have said is, I mark my gears by drawing a line (with a 
> sharpie pen)  one line on the drive gear, running through the directional 
> gear, and on to the  duplex gear. as long as all three lines are lined up at 
> the start of the cut. (every time .) you will have no problems.
>
> Once I get to the end of my cut. I dis-engage the drive screw, and move the 
> carriage back to the beginning, then (leaving the drive screw dis-connected. 
> I run the gears until the lines on the gears line up.) then I index my part, 
> and drop the router back onto its proper depth, and start cutting all over 
> again.
> Winding the carriage back to the starting point, is a long and boring process 
> that I choose not to do any more. I would suggest for you to try it on your 
> next scrap wood project. I mean what do you have to loose? I think once you 
> try the rapid return method, I think that you will not ever go back to the 
> old way. ;-)
>
> Have a good night.
> C.A.G.
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Re: WAVY CUTS

[MACSWAG]

Oh I'm so envious,they are what I would like to aspire to,I think I
read on here somewhere that you shaved every second ripple just to
leave the one rather 3dd.I sure as bingo are going to have fun trying
out splitting the waves with buttons beads and such,this tool has
opened up a whole new field,I dont think TIM.realises the
potential,Tim I think you may have moved on to CNC.and kind of missed
out on the fun of manualy doing these quirks,Hello C.A.G. I don't
quite understand what you mean,the way I'm doing it now is by the past
post of TIM,with diagrams and such,in the article it says use the
index hole on the index gear to !paraphrase!12-24- 6-and so so on,that
is what I'm doing,but also there is limitless variations just by
adjusting the arm,I'm using cheap pine right now so it doesn't matter
if I mess up,I have some lovely Mahogany just waitinf for someyhing
like this,keep chippin, MAC.

On Nov 12, 12:48 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> Have fun Mac here is a couple I did might give you idea or 2 it was donr
> with a Plunge Point Roundover Bit
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "curt george" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:48 AM
> Subject: Re: WAVY CUTS
>
> > Hello Mac.
> > Did Tim tell you to mark the gears before you start the first cut? that
> > way
> > when you get to the end of your cut, all you need to do is index the part
> > and return the carriage to the starting point. Then line up your marks on
> > the gears and start your next cut .Its pretty easy! ( Hay Guys, If I can
> > make it work, Anyone can!)
> > I agree with you it is a neat attachment, and it is a lot of fun to use.
> > Now all we need to do is to get you to start taking pictures of all the
> > neat
> > stuff you will be making and Post it here so we all can enjoy your work.
> > ;-)
> > If you have any questions. I too have been using the Wave attachment for a
> > while, and I feel I have a pretty good grasp on how it works.
> > Have a good time using your new toy.
>
> > C.A.G.
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:42 PM
> > Subject: WAVY CUTS
>
> >> Hello chaps,I got a TK/Reciprocator from TIM,to use on my REVO, boy
> >> what fun,this little gadget can work wonders and so very easy to
> >> use,no boundaries except your imagination,so get onto TIM.and ask for
> >> one he is very helpfull,MAC.
>
>
>
>  wave 3.jpg
> 477KViewDownload
>
>  wave.jpg
> 467KViewDownload
>
>  wave 2.jpg
> 465KViewDownload
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WAVY CUTS

[MACSWAG]

Hello chaps,I got a TK/Reciprocator from TIM,to use on my REVO, boy
what fun,this little gadget can work wonders and so very easy to
use,no boundaries except your imagination,so get onto TIM.and ask for
one he is very helpfull,MAC.
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Re: REVO MOVEMENT

[MACSWAG]

Hi Bill,that sounds good to me, I will have a go at that when er
indoors stops naggin about me bein out in the shed all the time,thanks
for the info,I'm going to make a steady rest,two rollers like I've
seen on here can't remember who posted the pics.but it was a great
idea,keep chippin.MAC.

On Nov 8, 12:25 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> on my middle spiral what I did was use magnates core box bit number 810 the
> 11/2 inch diameter core box bit
> and ran it down the centre of 2 pieces of wood then glued them together to
> make one piece with a 11/2 inch hole up the middle then made a sacrificial
> piece that fits neatly up the middle a genital tap in fit not too tight and
> not loose .. then I made a cap for each end that were a nice tight fit so
> the job didn't spin during machining  then put all that in and made the
> hollow spiral I ran the job in a steady rest too nothing special jus a block
> of wood with a half round cut in it on the band saw the bolted to the revo
> just to give the spiral a little extra strength and of coarse when doing the
> hollow with the strait bit little cuts I machined right down till almost
> breaking thru with each start of the pitches then I took the last little bit
> out on each. there might be a better way to do all this but that's what I
> did and it worked great every time.. post pics when you do it
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:04 AM
> Subject: Re: REVO MOVEMENT
>
> Thanks Bill,the outside spiral, Does that mean you drill out the
> center first and then cut your spiral with the sacrificial
> inside,that's seems to be why I have chunks flying off and sod it
> another wasted log,boy what a thicko I am,as I said this forum is
> invaluable,keep chippin,MAC.
>
> On Nov 7, 1:19 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> > the best thing it needs is a dam cross slide leadscrew and steady rests
> > one
> > or more make a great differance to fight vibration too I was always going
> > to
> > make 2 ajutable rollers that run the whole length of the revo as well as 2
> > shorter ones for different diameter work as a lot of the work it does is
> > small diameter 1 or 2 inches
> > Bill
> > Ps a tip when you do the spiral in a spiral make sure you make a
> > sacrificial
> > insert for all the way through the middle of the hollow before you do your
> > spiral or most assuredly it will fly to bits my first one did
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tim Krause" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: REVO MOVEMENT
>
> > > Great to hear! I think a better locking system is in the future for the
> > > Revo
> > > owners. Some thing quick and solid. A full depth, single pass cut is a
> > > lot
> > > of strain on the equipment.
>
> > > -Tim
>
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 2:24 PM
> > > Subject: REVO MOVEMENT
>
> > >> Evenin all,I have been out in my shed using the info from TIM & BILL,
> > >> and Lil /td. yes I do get drift on my cross slide ,cause ,vibration at
> > >> high revs.so now I consciously make myself check all locks and even
> > >> the stops,this has made a difference,but this just goes to show you
> > >> can't let your concentration drift,as to the maths,well never been
> > >> great at that anyway but I use pencil and paper instead of mental and
> > >> I now get the hang of it I think,I 'm trying it out tomorrow and
> > >> hoping for the best,lucky I have bought from Roger a good selection of
> > >> cutters,just need a few more,lucky I had a good selection of 1/4" inch
> > >> shank cutters,because Roger sold me a tool that could use both 1/2" &
> > >> 1/4" saves a lot of fartin about with the chuck,thank you all for your
> > >> kind help,and Tim I have now found the demonstrations on the videos on
> > >> youtube, a great help. MAC
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Re: REVO MOVEMENT

[MACSWAG]

Thanks Bill,the outside spiral, Does that mean you drill out the
center first and then cut your spiral with the sacrificial
inside,that's seems to be why I have chunks flying off and sod it
another wasted log,boy what a thicko I am,as I said this forum is
invaluable,keep chippin,MAC.

On Nov 7, 1:19 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> the best thing it needs is a dam cross slide leadscrew and steady rests one
> or more make a great differance to fight vibration too I was always going to
> make 2 ajutable rollers that run the whole length of the revo as well as 2
> shorter ones for different diameter work as a lot of the work it does is
> small diameter 1 or 2 inches
> Bill
> Ps a tip when you do the spiral in a spiral make sure you make a sacrificial
> insert for all the way through the middle of the hollow before you do your
> spiral or most assuredly it will fly to bits my first one did
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Krause" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: REVO MOVEMENT
>
> > Great to hear! I think a better locking system is in the future for the
> > Revo
> > owners.  Some thing quick and solid.  A full depth, single pass cut is a
> > lot
> > of strain on the equipment.
>
> > -Tim
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 2:24 PM
> > Subject: REVO MOVEMENT
>
> >> Evenin all,I have been out in my shed using the info from TIM & BILL,
> >> and Lil /td. yes I do get drift on my cross slide ,cause ,vibration at
> >> high revs.so now I consciously make myself check all locks and even
> >> the stops,this has made a difference,but this just goes to show you
> >> can't let your concentration drift,as to the maths,well never been
> >> great at that anyway but I use pencil and paper instead of mental and
> >> I now get the hang of it I think,I 'm trying it out tomorrow and
> >> hoping for the best,lucky I have bought from Roger a good selection of
> >> cutters,just need a few more,lucky I had a good selection of 1/4" inch
> >> shank cutters,because Roger sold me a tool that could use both 1/2" &
> >> 1/4" saves a lot of fartin about with the chuck,thank you all for your
> >> kind help,and Tim I have now found the demonstrations on the videos on
> >> youtube, a great help. MAC
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REVO

[MACSWAG]

Hi ppl, are there any Revo owners in the U.K.get in touch,exchange
some info's, to all on forum,When I make barley twist columns I seem
to be getting the round over part only on one side of the twist,
the other side is just flat,if I increase the depth I then get a cut
ridge
on the opposite side and a partial roundover on the flat side of the
curve,where am I going wrong here,any and all sugestions welcome,

MAC.
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Re: REVO

[MACSWAG]

Hi TIM,looks like you have solved it for me without going out to the
shed,I will do this t/mrrow.this forum is invaluable,MAC.

On Nov 3, 11:56 pm, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> One more thing,
>
> There's a pretty good tutorial on Legacy's 
> site:http://legacywoodworking.com/technique.cfm?techniqueID=2
>
> Notice the diameter = pitch = width of cutter.
>
> Lil Twisted is a real know it all on this topic.  Hopefully he will chime
> in.
>
> -Tim
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Krause" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:50 PM
> Subject: Re: REVO
>
> > Hi Mac,
>
> > Can you take photos and show the problem?  Are you starting from a round
> > piece? My guess is the wrong pitch for the width of the router bit.  Which
> > router bit are you using, and how many starts?
>
> > -Tim
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "MACSWAG" 
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:30 PM
> > Subject: REVO
>
> > > Hi ppl, are there any Revo owners in the U.K.get in touch,exchange
> > > some info's, to all on forum,When I make barley twist columns I seem
> > > to be getting the round over part only on one side of the twist,
> > > the other side is just flat,if I increase the depth I then get a cut
> > > ridge
> > > on the opposite side and a partial roundover on the flat side of the
> > > curve,where am I going wrong here,any and all sugestions welcome,
>
> > > MAC.
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Re: Revo Training

[MACSWAG]

TIM,I got the dvd/s. with the Revo but it only plays so far then just
stops,and I have access to three different video players so I guess I
missed out on that article on pitches and gears,thanks for the info.
MAC.

On Nov 4, 12:02 am, "Tim Krause"  wrote:
> I'm curious,
>
> When I bought my model 900 I got an extra set of training videos that were 
> very helpful. It spoke volumes over the official manual.  What do Revo owners 
> get for documentation and training videos for the Revo? I hope it's more than 
> the web videos.
>
> -Tim
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noisy routers

[MACSWAG TAE]

Hi ppl, what are the least noisy routers,does it have to be a Porter
Cable.like the 7518.I have three routers all capable of cutting very
well with 1/2" cutters I slow them down as much as pos.to cut the
noise,(neighbors) but have to increase with the density of certain
woods,and the whine is very bad,just asking I'm not getting rid of
mine,too expensive,  MAC.
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Re: rotary indexing shaft

[MACSWAG TAE]

Thanks chaps for the info,and Bill you must have a very techy brain,I
received an
E/ml.from my supplier Euro- George and he has one in-stock,so very
lucky there,
we have a postal strike on here so will have to bide my time,  MAC.
On Oct 23, 12:57 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> on my revo I used 2 universal joints a extension bar from my tool box and 2
> sleeves with screws and made my own works like a bought one
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG TAE" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:13 AM
> Subject: rotary indexing shaft
>
> > Evnin all,just a small query,would the rotary indexing shaft work on a
> > Revo, bearing in mind the axis do not line up,the rotary shaft is
> > universal jointed , could it work on my rotary table to make spiral
> > rosettes and other whimsy's,also does anyone want to sell one.
> > thanks for looking,  MAC.
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rotary indexing shaft

[MACSWAG TAE]

Evnin all,just a small query,would the rotary indexing shaft work on a
Revo, bearing in mind the axis do not line up,the rotary shaft is
universal jointed , could it work on my rotary table to make spiral
rosettes and other whimsy's,also does anyone want to sell one.
thanks for looking,  MAC.
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Re: sanding mops

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MAC.

I have a small lathe which I use for sanding the twists and ropes
among others
I use the sanding strips from Axminster tools.four grades to a box of
rolls,I find that they curve into the work and make a very good job of
tight groves and twists,I'm not overly struck with the sanding mops,
MAC.

On Oct 13, 10:28 am, gk777  wrote:
> I purchased 2 different grits from Klingspore, I use them in my drill
> press, max spped I believe is 1500 rpm never used it on a router. When
> things are to large I chuck in my portable drill and use that on the
> legacy or set the piece on my bench which ever is easier at the time.
>
> I have not seen that on their site and thought i had watched
> everything guess i need to revisit it.
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spam adds

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how do you get rid of these spam adds,they take up a lot of room.can't
they be zapped. MAC.
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Re: junior project

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Hi Bill,is that a photo of his dad on his T/shirt,LOL.you say you side
mounted on the Revo.and it gave you more choices,how,
you can reed and v/cut from the top as usual,I'm doing mods on my Revo
because I'm now suffering with Athritis and find the winding getting
to painful,so I have tried a variable speed power
forward and reverse drill on the lead screw,it works a treat so long
as you stay on the ball,I've scavenged short lead screws for
 the other axis and I'm making the mountings myself,also you can buy a
driver board and three fair stepper motors reasonably priced from
Italy,I have a self built very powerful comp.so basicly I have all the
gear,I really didn't want to go down the CNC.road
but needs must,all your tips are very welcome,as well as CURT'S he is
very adventurous don' you think,MAC

























On Sep 8, 10:59 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> My 14 year old son had to  Disighn and make a woodwork project for school 
> so.
>  he did a good job I think all I did was advise and watch him good on the 
> Designer kit and the revo
> Bill
>
>  jono3.jpg
> 211KViewDownload
>
>  jono 1.jpg
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>
>  jono 2.jpg
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>  jono.jpg
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Re: model 900 modifications

[MACSWAG TAE]

Hi Bill,wow a great mod,btu what is the advantage of lowering the
work,is it to accommodate larger pieces for turning,I'm modding my
REVO.well getting bit's together,like lead screws and mountings,I'm
going the way of the crowd and trying to make it a CNC.just wondering
if you did any mods like that on your REVO.keep chippin,MAC.

On Sep 5, 10:48 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> They sould be there i looked online and by email and they are there
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "curt george" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:32 PM
> Subject: Re: model 900 modifications
>
> > Hello Bill
> > I missed your first message, I have not idea why it happened,or why?
> > I for one would realy like to see some pictures of your new ideas! both
> > ideas sound pretty neat,Can you go into some more details? A double tooth
> > sprocket realy sounds neat.
> > I have to go to work now. have a great day.
> > I will talk to you more latter.
> > C.A.G.
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 4:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: model 900 modifications
>
> >> oops sorry about the key pic it was on computer and I grabbed it with the
> >> rest of the pics
> >> Bill
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 5:47 PM
> >> Subject: model 900 modifications
>
> >>> Hi guys here is what I been doing to my model 900 I never did like how
> >>> you
> >>> did template work on it. so I did a bit of adding and now I can
> >>> hopefully
> >>> use the same router bits as the cnc demos show with a template and be
> >>> able
> >>> to do almost the same stuff as they do.(not all of us can afford a new
> >>> wizz
> >>> bang computer machine). as a added bonus if I use the double tooth
> >>> sprocket
> >>> it should give me the same pitches as the 4X multiplier gears.
> >>> I havent tryed it yet I just finished it today.I made a similar thing on
> >>> my
> >>> revo it is what gave me the idea for the model 900. I'm also making a
> >>> steady
> >>> rest so I can remove the tail stock for nice long jobes
> >>> what do you all think I'm open to any problems you might see with it
> >>> all.
> >>> Bill
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Re: Wave Attachment

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Hi all, C.G.what is spackling compound?,is it similar to Polyfilla,it
is an indoor
plaster filling compound,that can be sanded very smooth,ideal for
voids revealed under old wallpaper,and very interesting things under
the old paper,such as old newspapers ,great story's and articles about
the war and slimy politicians,so what's new,.. Bill I have sent off an
E/Ml. about the logs,waiting for a reply,will
let you know when I hear, I'm trying to make your design of the twist
mechanism,hell that's a big word I'll have to rest my brain,MAC.

On Aug 28, 2:04 am, "curt george"  wrote:
> Well Thank you Bill
> I came up with an old article a few years back about using plaster-of-Paris
> to fill in the grain on old painted goods. In the article it stated that
> this method worked well for its time, but the plaster dries out and can
> shrink.
> I bet you guessed it,One day I ran short of wood filler on a project so I
> used light weight spackling compound, It dose not shrink... ( and I had it
> on hand, So I figured, Why not try???) The stuff go's on realy easy, sands
> out like nothing flat. it takes paint and stain realy well. So on most of my
> plywood projects I seal all the opened grain with spackling compound,sand
> the hole project, then stain and seal the wood with poly. or shellac. for
> the pedestal I sealed with shellac and then stained again, I used red
> mahogany stain (General finishes.)
> What I think looks neat is to cut ropes on plywood, it gives an elusion that
> the wood in waving/twisting. (the photo realy doesn't do this effect
> justice) The legs on the portable alter was a split turning of a off sized
> rope (I like to call it a rope and ribbon combo.)
> One more note on plywood, I find that there are many kinds of plywood's,
> thin veneer works well, but I find that I like the look of construction
> grade plywood. even though it dose have some voids.
> The plywood cuts alright on the legacy,although there is some glue build up
> on the cutter, so you need to hone the cutter a little bit more often, but I
> find that the build up isn't as bad as turning pine.
>
> I need to go.
> have a good night.
> C.A.G.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Wave Attachment
>
> > I like the pole goes to show once painted it can be made of anything and
> > still looks great what did you stain the column with I cant tell if its
> > made
> > of plywood looks great too I like the puppet stage as well
> > Bill
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "curt george" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: Wave Attachment
>
> >> Single and 4 kids! Wow!!! I had three in my house just a few month
> >> ago,but
> >> now Im down to two. I can understand something about your time/money that
> >> you must be going through.
> >> Yes I can get my hands on almost any wood I choose, but I normally use
> >> what
> >> I can when doing different projects, Friends use to tease me about being
> >> a
> >> plywood master,(because that's a easy medium for me to get my hands on,
> >> its
> >> cheap and...)
> >> Im in a hurry.
> >> but I am posting some pix's to show you what can be done .
> >> have a good day.
> >> C.A.G.
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:26 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Wave Attachment
>
> >>> Its no better here in Aus wood is always a problem.tools are a little
> >>> better
> >>> thanks to the internet.  I too wish we had the availability of different
> >>> woods the Americans do, and any that are are worth a fortune . I'm  a
> >>> single
> >>> dad of 4 children so money is always an issue.
> >>> so I figger if you cant get a lovely grained wood then make the dull old
> >>> wood available to you have lots of patterns in it like the wave pattern
> >>> walking stick was a hard wood tomato stake  from the local nursery but
> >>> your
> >>> so busy looking at the pattern you don't notice what the wood is.I live
> >>> in
> >>> a
> >>> small town called Castlemaine.  in Victoria it is about 1 1/2 hours
> >>> drive
> >>> from Melbourne
> >>> Bill
>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "MACSWAG TAE" 
> >>> To: "Legac

Re: Wave Attachment

[MACSWAG TAE]

Me again BILL,I live in the U.K.sorry about the confusion,I wish I did
live in U.S.A.
tools and wood are more reasonably priced,here every-one is out to get
top buck,MAC

On Aug 25, 3:21 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> I don't have any more wave stuff I've been to busy doing other stuff none
> revo. but here is a pic or 2 I posted before you might have not seen all
> made on the revo.Im no expert either but its all fun.
> and if the teak is in Australia then yes Im interested always interested in
> wood to turn
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG TAE" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Wave Attachment
>
> Hi chaps, a lot of good info,BILL I keep looking at your wavy work and
> I'm gobsmacked that such a wee tool as the REVO.can turnout such
> lovely work,what did you make and have you any more pics,change of
> subject,I've just been host to AUS.relatives for two weeks lovely
> people but boy I'm knackered now,anyhow Jan the older lady has four
> large teak logs and I said to her you may be interested for turning,if
> you are, just post on here and I shall start the ball rolling,she is
> away to thailand for a few weeks so no contact for awhile ,but just
> incase you are interested, O/K.  MAC.
>
> On Aug 20, 2:35 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> > hi curt
> > with this one I just winged it I wanted to try a larger wave than the ones
> > you guys posted so I just took a stab and it looked great so I went with
> > it
> > nothing technical sorry
> > Bill
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "curt george" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: Wave Attachment
>
> > > Way to Go Bill!
> > > I know Im a late comer to this message, but Its been a long day, and Im
> > > just
> > > about to go to bed in a min. or two.
> > > I like those large waves. Question how to you set your wave size? I mean
> > > do
> > > you have the center marked as 0, and measure from there? or do you just
> > > wing
> > > it, (If I looks good to me now, than that's good enough.) :-).
> > > Also what router bit are you using in those pictures?
>
> > > Again Good job Bill.
> > > have a good night.
> > > C.A.G.
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:33 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Wave Attachment
>
> > >> here is a pic of my version of the wave attachment for a revo.I like
> > >> bigger
> > >> waves bit it will do the little ones too and because of the slide
> > >> ajustment
> > >> it will do a great many differant size waves it should also fit a modle
> > >> 900
> > >> too I must dig it out and try it on the 900 actually
> > >> Bill
>
>
>
>  key.jpg
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>
>  mailbox2.jpg
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>
>  letterbox.jpg
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Re: Wave Attachment

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Hi BILL,again you have made me envious,lovely work,I presume the
spirals within a spiral are all done separately and inserted
finished,as to the teak logs,Jan the lady who has them lives in
Melbourne,I shall contact her through my daughter in law in Singapore
she will see her before she goes home and I will give you the
facts,where do you live in AUS.thanks for the pickys, MAC.

On Aug 25, 3:21 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> I don't have any more wave stuff I've been to busy doing other stuff none
> revo. but here is a pic or 2 I posted before you might have not seen all
> made on the revo.Im no expert either but its all fun.
> and if the teak is in Australia then yes Im interested always interested in
> wood to turn
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MACSWAG TAE" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Wave Attachment
>
> Hi chaps, a lot of good info,BILL I keep looking at your wavy work and
> I'm gobsmacked that such a wee tool as the REVO.can turnout such
> lovely work,what did you make and have you any more pics,change of
> subject,I've just been host to AUS.relatives for two weeks lovely
> people but boy I'm knackered now,anyhow Jan the older lady has four
> large teak logs and I said to her you may be interested for turning,if
> you are, just post on here and I shall start the ball rolling,she is
> away to thailand for a few weeks so no contact for awhile ,but just
> incase you are interested, O/K.  MAC.
>
> On Aug 20, 2:35 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> > hi curt
> > with this one I just winged it I wanted to try a larger wave than the ones
> > you guys posted so I just took a stab and it looked great so I went with
> > it
> > nothing technical sorry
> > Bill
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "curt george" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: Wave Attachment
>
> > > Way to Go Bill!
> > > I know Im a late comer to this message, but Its been a long day, and Im
> > > just
> > > about to go to bed in a min. or two.
> > > I like those large waves. Question how to you set your wave size? I mean
> > > do
> > > you have the center marked as 0, and measure from there? or do you just
> > > wing
> > > it, (If I looks good to me now, than that's good enough.) :-).
> > > Also what router bit are you using in those pictures?
>
> > > Again Good job Bill.
> > > have a good night.
> > > C.A.G.
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:33 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Wave Attachment
>
> > >> here is a pic of my version of the wave attachment for a revo.I like
> > >> bigger
> > >> waves bit it will do the little ones too and because of the slide
> > >> ajustment
> > >> it will do a great many differant size waves it should also fit a modle
> > >> 900
> > >> too I must dig it out and try it on the 900 actually
> > >> Bill
>
>
>
>  key.jpg
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>
>  mailbox2.jpg
> 130KViewDownload
>
>  letterbox.jpg
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>
>  mail box.jpg
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Re: Wave Attachment

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Hi chaps, a lot of good info,BILL I keep looking at your wavy work and
I'm gobsmacked that such a wee tool as the REVO.can turnout such
lovely work,what did you make and have you any more pics,change of
subject,I've just been host to AUS.relatives for two weeks lovely
people but boy I'm knackered now,anyhow Jan the older lady has four
large teak logs and I said to her you may be interested for turning,if
you are, just post on here and I shall start the ball rolling,she is
away to thailand for a few weeks so no contact for awhile ,but just
incase you are interested, O/K.  MAC.

On Aug 20, 2:35 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> hi curt
> with this one I just winged it I wanted to try a larger wave than the ones
> you guys posted so I just took a stab and it looked great so I went with it
> nothing technical sorry
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "curt george" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Wave Attachment
>
> > Way to Go Bill!
> > I know Im a late comer to this message, but Its been a long day, and Im
> > just
> > about to go to bed in a min. or two.
> > I like those large waves. Question how to you set your wave size? I mean
> > do
> > you have the center marked as 0, and measure from there? or do you just
> > wing
> > it, (If I looks good to me now, than that's good enough.)  :-).
> > Also what router bit are you using in those pictures?
>
> > Again Good job Bill.
> > have a good night.
> > C.A.G.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: Wave Attachment
>
> >> here is a pic of my version of the wave attachment for a revo.I like
> >> bigger
> >> waves bit it will do the little ones too and because of the slide
> >> ajustment
> >> it will do a great many differant size waves it should also fit a modle
> >> 900
> >> too I must dig it out and try it on the 900 actually
> >> Bill
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Re: Wave Attachment

[MACSWAG TAE]

Thanks Bill,I've been looking at TIM's site,and his rig.it looks
fairly straight forward
if you are reading this TIM.what thicknesses are the spacer and slider
please,I'm itchin to build this wee gadget,MAC.

On Aug 20, 2:35 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
> hi curt
> with this one I just winged it I wanted to try a larger wave than the ones
> you guys posted so I just took a stab and it looked great so I went with it
> nothing technical sorry
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "curt george" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Wave Attachment
>
> > Way to Go Bill!
> > I know Im a late comer to this message, but Its been a long day, and Im
> > just
> > about to go to bed in a min. or two.
> > I like those large waves. Question how to you set your wave size? I mean
> > do
> > you have the center marked as 0, and measure from there? or do you just
> > wing
> > it, (If I looks good to me now, than that's good enough.)  :-).
> > Also what router bit are you using in those pictures?
>
> > Again Good job Bill.
> > have a good night.
> > C.A.G.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Bill Bulkeley" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: Wave Attachment
>
> >> here is a pic of my version of the wave attachment for a revo.I like
> >> bigger
> >> waves bit it will do the little ones too and because of the slide
> >> ajustment
> >> it will do a great many differant size waves it should also fit a modle
> >> 900
> >> too I must dig it out and try it on the 900 actually
> >> Bill
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Re: Wave Attachment

[MACSWAG TAE]

Hi Bill,wow that is some nice wavy work,and to a good depth as
well,can you give some facts like starts and pitches, also on the
large gear wheel,is that an adjustable slide there,can you post the
sises and any construction hints,I tried to make twisted pens when I
first got my REVO.
Oh boy disaster,I was using the wrong tool,I was trying to run before
I could walk,it was before I found this forum,it would have stopped me
ruining a tool,
thanks c.g. I thought that might be it,keep chippin, MAC.

On Aug 19, 9:33 am, "Bill Bulkeley"  wrote:
>  here is a pic of my version of the wave attachment for a revo.I like bigger
> waves bit it will do the little ones too and because of the slide ajustment
> it will do a great many differant size waves it should also fit a modle 900
> too I must dig it out and try it on the 900 actually
> Bill
>
>  wave[1].jpg
> 208KViewDownload
>
>  wave2[1].jpg
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>
>  wave att.jpg
> 46KViewDownload
>
>  wave pen.jpg
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Re: Wave Attachment

[MACSWAG TAE]

Hi C.G.Why have you twisted the top of the arm that holds the end of
the long screw rod.and do you think this set up could be built onto a
REVO.thanks to you and TIM.for a great idea, MAC.

On Aug 14, 12:39 am, "curt george"  wrote:
> Wops!
> the photos did not come through. ( "O"well you can get them from Tim's web
> page.)
> To go on with the story.
> After I saw what Tim had done,I knew that I wanted to make that attachment
> for my machine.
> Still not having seen the attachment that he made, I began to design my own
> attachment, using only his written messages from this forum.
> My original Wave attachment was crude but worked,( it sorta looks like a
> Choo-choo train driving arm.without the steam.) after seeing what and how
> Tim made what he did, I then re-made my center wave gear, so to give me a
> better control of the size of my wave. but I liked my train assembly
> indexing head,so I keep it.
> There are a few tricks that need to be learned to use this attachment, to
> its fullest.
> If any of you want to know more, please ask. I will  only be, all to glad to
> share this info. with you .
>
> I will talk to you all latter.
> C.A.G.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "curt george" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Wave Attachment
>
> > Hello guys I back! ;-)
> > Tim has  already stated most of the details.
> > Here are some of the original postings.
> > Hello All,
>
> > Here's the results of another invention for my Legacy Ornamental Mill.
> > This
> > is a traditional pattern done with the Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe with
> > the
> > aid of an addition called an Atkinson Reciprocator. I'm calling my version
> > the TK Reciprocator. Basically I linked the spindle to a crank mechanism
> > that rocks the spindle back and forth. As the spindle rocks back and
> > forth,
> > the x axis lead screw is advancing the router creating the wave patterns.
> > The amplitude of the wave and the pitch of the gears changes the design.
> > In
> > the near future, I'll post the plans if anyone is interested.
>
> > The long wave was done with the 7.5 inch pitch gear, and the short wave
> > was
> > done with the 2 inch pitch gear. I used a barley twist bit. The diameters
> > of
> > the spindles are about 2". The amount of the amplitude is the same in each
> > design, about an 1/8th inch. The depth of cut is about 1/16th of an inch
> > deep. The waves are repeated 12 times around the spindles.  Using this
> > simple technique, a lot of variations can be made.
>
> > The last couple of pictures show the face plate being used with the same
> > technique as above. The first picture uses the magnate # 6051 side cutting
> > round bit, and the last picture the magnate # 7976. By advancing the y
> > axis
> > towards me as the spindle is rocking back and forth a specific area is
> > cleaned out. The bit was positioned about a half inch above the center of
> > the faceplate. Notice the slight curve on the very inside of the blades. I
> > think it's a really interesting effect. Also note that I did this example
> > before I fixed my spindle. Notice the uneven cut. Hopefully the cut will
> > be
> > cleaner now.
>
> > I'm really looking forward to working with this idea some more, I think
> > that
> > it has a huge potential! I also have a modification for the rotary table,
> > but I'm still fabricating parts to make it work. That will be hopefully
> > finished in about a month.
>
> > Enjoy,
>
> > -Tim
>
> > Hang in there folks. I'm away from my machine until at least Wednesday.
> > The
> > Atkinson Reciprocator is a rare accessory for a rare machine. There are
> > very
> > few pictures of the original device. Here's a link that shows one.
> >http://www.turners.org/images/Recip.gif. I have not seen any connected to
> > a
> > machine so I had to use my imagination. Not really a stretch when you
> > realize you are simple turning the spindle back and forth by a small
> > amount
> > of degrees.
>
> > My TK reciprocator was inspired by the Atkinson version. My version is
> > much
> > simpler, and allows infinite adjustment compared to the finite adjustment
> > of
> > the Atkinson version. I have not finished drawing the plan yet, or I would
> > post the drawing. It really is very simple to make.
>
> > Basically I'm placing a bar between the standard duplex gear and the
> > standard index gear. The bar is mounted in a slide on the duplex gear that
> > changes the amplitude of the wave. The slide is bolted to the duplex gear
> > using the stock holes. The bar is connected to the slide using a Legacy
> > quick release bracket. The other end of the bar is connected to the index
> > with a pin and a magnet. The pin sits in the index holes, and the magnet
> > keeps the bar in place while in motion. A spring is used to remove any
> > backlash in the system when the rotation changes direction.
>
> > By engaging the pitch gears to the index gear but not engaging the duplex
> > gear to the index gear, I'm

Re: There's Gold in them,there hills

[MACSWAG TAE]

Hi TIM,and welcome back CG.Tim john magill has designed and posted
plans for an MDF.made rose engine I built one it was fairly cheap,he
also sells all the components to finish the job and at very reasonable
postal rates if you live in America that is,look in youtube under rose
engines and open John magills site,
Hi CG. I'd be very interested to see if you can make a follower that
could give fairly sharp copy in wood,after all it shows in Legacys
turntable video making
a nice round rosette so there must be scope for making Ornamental
cuts,look at some of the work on the site by Dr.Coultard.that's the
kind of work I would love to do and will with the help of my very good
supplier of cutting tools ROGER, he imports to the U/K.and is most
helpful,so just trwal the site and see,some great work,glad you're
back and Gold rich now,don't forget the boys when your buying a
round,MAC.

On Aug 12, 9:24 am, "curt george"  wrote:
> Good morning Tim
> Perhaps you are correct, on the amount of play within the machine. I keep 
> forgetting what the Legacy was made for, It is not an all-purpose machine, it 
> was designed to a few things very well, and as long as I stick within those 
> parameters everything should work its self out just fine.The problem is, I 
> like to push those limits, and to see what is possible.
> So far as things goes the legacy have has treated me pretty well, but I am 
> still going to play around with it, and see just what is possible. ;-) 
> (profile follower, and ... a few other things will be first on my list, then 
> perhaps, I will get the time to realy see what is possible?) Imagination is 
> the limit! and I have lots of that!
>
> Time to go to work. (two weeks off, "BOY" is it going to be hard to get back 
> into the swing of things again!) ;-)
> talk to you. (all) latter.
> Have a great day.
> C.A.G.
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Tim Krause
>   To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:56 PM
>   Subject: Re: There's Gold in them,there hills
>
>   Welcome back Curt,
>
>   I designed a follower for the rotary table based on the rosette idea, but 
> never built it.  I'm still leaning towards building a rose engine lathe than 
> trying to turn the legacy platform into something that it can never be.  Some 
> recent work really proves how much twist and flex is in the machine for 
> anything small scale with a high level of detail that I'm looking for.
>
>   -Tim
>
>     - Original Message -
>     From: curt george
>     To: Legacy Google group
>     Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:47 PM
>     Subject: There's Gold in them,there hills
>
>     Hello everyone, Im back! And to show you all what kind of sport I am, I 
> left most of the Gold out-there for all of you to find your self's. ;-)
>
>     What fun!  Not quite the same as working in the shop. but believe me it 
> was WORK! But we found gold. and even better yet I now have some more new 
> ideas on how to make my Legacy work even better for me. Tim here is a hint, 
> Rose lathe quality using templates and your turn table on the Legacy, just 
> might be a very real possibility.
>     making a new profile cutter , and a new copy cutting attachment for my 
> legacy are but a few ideas, that I got form Mike while we where shoveling all 
> the dirt into the gold sleuths box.
>
>     Its now time for me to go to Our martail art class's (me and the Boys) 
> What fun! Im also going to try to make a carved Mook jong, but that is a 
> realy long term goal of ming.
>
>     gota run.
>     talk to you all latter.
>     C.A.G.
>
>     P.S. look at those two Gold diggers! ;-)
>
>     c.a.g.
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MISSING PART

[MACSWAG TAE]

Hi CHAPS,I really see why there is a moan about Legacy not giving two
hoots about us manual users,I have a REVO. and have been waiting for a
template follower since I bought it months ago now,I've spent well
over a thousand pounds for this unit, I added a rotary table and extra
bits,Roger, my supplier must be fed-up with me writing to him every
week asking is there any news on my missing part,so any body
considering buying read all the comments on the forum and then
decide,thank's chaps for all your very good and friendly help,MAC.
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Re: THIN TURNING SUPPORT

[MACSWAG TAE]

Thanks TIM,that I can make and it should work O/K. ,,,To ART,I cannot
visualize
 your setup can you post a drawing or picture,cant see how you would
secure this hanging down,thanks for your time,MAC.

On Jul 5, 9:13 pm, MACSWAG TAE  wrote:
> Hi ppl.I have a REVO. and it is all milled on the side of the
> framework in-between outward facing h/t/stock.I don't see how you
> could have a support,does anyone know of a device or some gadget
> that I could use,thank's MAC.
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THIN TURNING SUPPORT

[MACSWAG TAE]

Hi ppl.I have a REVO. and it is all milled on the side of the
framework in-between outward facing h/t/stock.I don't see how you
could have a support,does anyone know of a device or some gadget
that I could use,thank's MAC.
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Re: look

[MACSWAG TAE]

Oh boy EV.that is awesome,and you see what price two went for
on E/BAY. keep chippin .MAC.

On Jul 2, 9:06 am, "curt george"  wrote:
> Good morning Bill.
> That is realy Kool!
> Im in the same boat as you, That CNC is the kind of thing that "Dreams" are
> made of,but I just cant afford it and my family at this time. So Legacy will
> just have to wait.
> Thanks Bill
> have a great day.
> C.A.G.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "aussiman" 
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:42 PM
> Subject: look
>
> > sure wish I could afford to go cnc
> >http://legacywoodworking.com:80/Videos/ShopTime/SpindleCarving/Spindl...
>
> > very very impresive
> > Bill
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