Re: Digest for legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 6 Messages in 2 Topics

2012-05-08 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
Honestly Tim, I can't see a need for the adjustable template.  I use MDF 
and in a matter of 3 minutes I am ready with a template that will not 
slide bend or bow.  It stays the same shape the whole job and is very 
cheap.  i must admit though it has been good for the group.


Mike
OK

On 5/8/2012 8:20 PM, Tim Krause wrote:
Still looking for an adjustable solution.  Once the cmt version is 
screwed in place you are locked into a location.  My local woodcraft 
did not stock the adjustable curve so I was not able to look at it and 
see if it would fit the bill.

-Tim

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*From:* Martin 
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*Sent:* Tuesday, May 08, 2012 3:25 AM
*Subject:* Re: Digest for legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
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Hi, I looked at this item here in the UK but have been put off by
the review of it.
http://www.axminster.co.uk/fisch-flexi-curve-prod783040/#bottomsection
It comes in three lengths 600, 1000 and 3000mm with the longer two
being critised for being way too stiff to get a satisfactory
curve. The weird thing Tim found originally, although expensive
does seem the best. For me, I will just stick to the "bow string"
approach and mark out onto a ply template to cut on the bandsaw.
Slower but I'm not in any hurry.
Have a look at the review and search out other reviews before
buying maybe?
Martin at martinsbootfair
On Tue, May 8, 2012, at 05:26 AM,
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
 wrote:

Today's Topic Summary

Group: http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/topics

  * flexible template <#group_thread_0> [5 Updates]

flexible template




http://www.carbatec.com.au/cmt-flexible-template-for-curved-arched-routing_c22143

"Bill Bulkeley"  May 08 09:34AM +1000

wasn't someone looking for something like this a while back??
I found it while looking for a long spiral router bit.
a question what is the best router bit for doing a ribbon
spiral??
I'm thinking a long spiral bit
what's a ribbon spiral you ask see the pic

Bill 




http://www.carbatec.com.au/cmt-flexible-template-for-curved-arched-routing_c22143http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en

"curt george"  May 07 08:53PM -0400

Hello Bill
Yes that was Tim, that was looking for a flexible template.
(Good find! I have not ever seen this one before!) I think
that I just might buy one for my self. ;-)

The Ribbon twist looks nice too.
What kind of wood is that,Bill?

Thanks for sharing. I will get back with you latter.
Have a good night.

C.A.G.
- Original Message -
From: Bill Bulkeley
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 7:34 PM
Subject: flexible template



wasn't someone looking for something like this a while back??
I found it while looking for a long spiral router bit.
a question what is the best router bit for doing a ribbon
spiral??
I'm thinking a long spiral bit
what's a ribbon spiral you ask see the pic

Bill

--
"curt george"  May 07 08:57PM -0400

OUCH! I just looked at the price! I'm going to have to save
my pennies to afford this one. (But if Its worth having its
worth working for! Right?) ;-)

C.A.G.
- Original Message -
From: Bill Bulkeley
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 7:34 PM
Subject: flexible template



wasn't someone looking for something like this a while back??
I found it while looking for a long spiral router bit.
a question what is the best router bit for doing a ribbon
spiral??
I'm thinking a long spiral bit
what's a ribbon spiral you ask see the pic

Bill

--
"Bill Bulkeley"  May 08 11:03AM +1000

its just laminated pine this was one of the first things I
ever did on the legacy
I remember it being a pain with the usual chatter when
cutting from the side
I wish there was another way of doing them or perhaps a
spiral router bit would work better
I was thinking of doing one in a hard wood but I'm not sure
how it would go
a 2 inch or more cut from the side.
even doing smaller cuts getting deeper each time sooner or
later I will have to take the whole cut at once to clean up

Re: Digest for legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 6 Messages in 2 Topics

2012-05-08 Thread Tim Krause 
Still looking for an adjustable solution.  Once the cmt version is screwed in 
place you are locked into a location.  My local woodcraft did not stock the 
adjustable curve so I was not able to look at it and see if it would fit the 
bill. 

-Tim

  - Original Message - 
  From: Martin 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 3:25 AM
  Subject: Re: Digest for legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 6 Messages 
in 2 Topics



  Hi, I looked at this item here in the UK but have been put off by the review 
of it.
  http://www.axminster.co.uk/fisch-flexi-curve-prod783040/#bottomsection

  It comes in three lengths 600, 1000 and 3000mm with the longer two being 
critised for being way too stiff to get a satisfactory curve. The weird thing 
Tim found originally, although expensive does seem the best. For me, I will 
just stick to the "bow string" approach and mark out onto a ply template to cut 
on the bandsaw. Slower but I'm not in any hurry.
  Have a look at the review and search out other reviews before buying maybe?

  Martin at martinsbootfair

  On Tue, May 8, 2012, at 05:26 AM, legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
wrote:
  Today's Topic Summary
Group: http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/topics

  a.. flexible template [5 Updates] 
 flexible template



http://www.carbatec.com.au/cmt-flexible-template-for-curved-arched-routing_c22143



  "Bill Bulkeley"  May 08 09:34AM +1000  
   
  wasn't someone looking for something like this a while back??
  I found it while looking for a long spiral router bit.
  a question what is the best router bit for doing a ribbon spiral??
  I'm thinking a long spiral bit
  what's a ribbon spiral you ask see the pic
   
  Bill 


http://www.carbatec.com.au/cmt-flexible-template-for-curved-arched-routing_c22143http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en



  "curt george"  May 07 08:53PM -0400  

  Hello Bill
  Yes that was Tim, that was looking for a flexible template. (Good find! I 
have not ever seen this one before!) I think that I just might buy one for my 
self. ;-)
   
  The Ribbon twist looks nice too.
  What kind of wood is that,Bill?
   
  Thanks for sharing. I will get back with you latter.
  Have a good night.
   
  C.A.G.
  - Original Message -
  From: Bill Bulkeley
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 7:34 PM
  Subject: flexible template
   
   
   
  wasn't someone looking for something like this a while back??
  I found it while looking for a long spiral router bit.
  a question what is the best router bit for doing a ribbon spiral??
  I'm thinking a long spiral bit
  what's a ribbon spiral you ask see the pic
   
  Bill
   
  --
  "curt george"  May 07 08:57PM -0400  

  OUCH! I just looked at the price! I'm going to have to save my pennies to 
afford this one. (But if Its worth having its worth working for! Right?) ;-)
   
  C.A.G.
  - Original Message -
  From: Bill Bulkeley
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 7:34 PM
  Subject: flexible template
   
   
   
  wasn't someone looking for something like this a while back??
  I found it while looking for a long spiral router bit.
  a question what is the best router bit for doing a ribbon spiral??
  I'm thinking a long spiral bit
  what's a ribbon spiral you ask see the pic
   
  Bill
   
  --
  "Bill Bulkeley"  May 08 11:03AM +1000  

  its just laminated pine this was one of the first things I ever did on 
the legacy
  I remember it being a pain with the usual chatter when cutting from the 
side
  I wish there was another way of doing them or perhaps a spiral router bit 
would work better
  I was thinking of doing one in a hard wood but I'm not sure how it would 
go
  a 2 inch or more cut from the side.
  even doing smaller cuts getting deeper each time sooner or later I will 
have to take the whole cut at once to clean up all the little cuts
   
  Bill
  - Original Message -
  From: curt george
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:53 AM
  Subject: Re: flexible template
   
   
  Hello Bill
  Yes that was Tim, that was looking for a flexible template. (Good find! I 
have not ever seen this one before!) I think that I just might buy one for my 
self. ;-)
   
  The Ribbon twist looks nice too.
  What kind of wood is that,Bill?
   
  Thanks for sharing. I will get back with you latter.
  Have a good night.
   
  C.A

Re: Digest for legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 6 Messages in 2 Topics

2012-05-08 Thread Martin 

Hi, I looked at this item here in the UK but have been put off by
the review of it.
[1]http://www.axminster.co.uk/fisch-flexi-curve-prod783040/#botto
msection

It comes in three lengths 600, 1000 and 3000mm with the longer
two being critised for being way too stiff to get a satisfactory
curve. The weird thing Tim found originally, although expensive
does seem the best. For me, I will just stick to the "bow string"
approach and mark out onto a ply template to cut on the bandsaw.
Slower but I'm not in any hurry.
Have a look at the review and search out other reviews before
buying maybe?

Martin at martinsbootfair

On Tue, May 8, 2012, at 05:26 AM,
[2]legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com wrote:

  Today's Topic Summary

  Group:
  [3]http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/topi
  cs
  * [4]flexible template [5 Updates]

 [5]flexible template

  [6]http://www.carbatec.com.au/cmt-flexible-template-for-curved
  -arched-routing_c22143


"Bill Bulkeley"  May 08 09:34AM +1000

wasn't someone looking for something like this a while back??
I found it while looking for a long spiral router bit.
a question what is the best router bit for doing a ribbon
spiral??
I'm thinking a long spiral bit
what's a ribbon spiral you ask see the pic

Bill

  [7]http://www.carbatec.com.au/cmt-flexible-template-for-curved
  -arched-routing_c22143[8]http://groups.google.com/group/legacy
  -ornamental-mills?hl=en


"curt george"  May 07 08:53PM -0400
Hello Bill
Yes that was Tim, that was looking for a flexible template.
(Good find! I have not ever seen this one before!) I think
that I just might buy one for my self. ;-)

The Ribbon twist looks nice too.
What kind of wood is that,Bill?

Thanks for sharing. I will get back with you latter.
Have a good night.

C.A.G.
- Original Message -
From: Bill Bulkeley
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 7:34 PM
Subject: flexible template



wasn't someone looking for something like this a while back??
I found it while looking for a long spiral router bit.
a question what is the best router bit for doing a ribbon
spiral??
I'm thinking a long spiral bit
what's a ribbon spiral you ask see the pic

Bill

--
"curt george"  May 07 08:57PM -0400
OUCH! I just looked at the price! I'm going to have to save
my pennies to afford this one. (But if Its worth having its
worth working for! Right?) ;-)

C.A.G.
- Original Message -
From: Bill Bulkeley
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 7:34 PM
Subject: flexible template



wasn't someone looking for something like this a while back??
I found it while looking for a long spiral router bit.
a question what is the best router bit for doing a ribbon
spiral??
I'm thinking a long spiral bit
what's a ribbon spiral you ask see the pic

Bill

--
"Bill Bulkeley"  May 08 11:03AM +1000

its just laminated pine this was one of the first things I
ever did on the legacy
I remember it being a pain with the usual chatter when
cutting from the side
I wish there was another way of doing them or perhaps a
spiral router bit would work better
I was thinking of doing one in a hard wood but I'm not sure
how it would go
a 2 inch or more cut from the side.
even doing smaller cuts getting deeper each time sooner or
later I will have to take the whole cut at once to clean up
all the little cuts

Bill
- Original Message -
From: curt george
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: flexible template


Hello Bill
Yes that was Tim, that was looking for a flexible template.
(Good find! I have not ever seen this one before!) I think
that I just might buy one for my self. ;-)

The Ribbon twist looks nice too.
What kind of wood is that,Bill?

Thanks for sharing. I will get back with you latter.
Have a good night.

C.A.G.
- Original Message -
From: Bill Bulkeley
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 7:34 PM
Subject: flexible template



wasn't someone looking for something like this a while back??
I found it while looking for a long spiral router bit.
a question what is the best router bit for doing a ribbon
spiral??
I'm thinking a long spiral bit
what's a ribbon spiral you ask see the pic

Bill

"Bill Bulkeley"  May 08 11:10AM +1000

I wonder how long it is? i didnt see that on the page
Bill
- Original Message -
From: curt george
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: flexible template


OUCH! I just looked at the price! I'm going to have to save
my penn

Re: Digest for legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 6 Messages in 2 Topics

2010-03-23 Thread Bill Bulkeley 
delrin or delron is the other name same stuff our legacy bushes and 
leadscrew nuts are made of

here in Aus its sold as delrin in eather black or white
Bill


- Original Message - 
From: "Stickman" 

To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: Digest for legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 6 
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All those pieces are made from delrin, which is a tough but easily
machined industrial-grade plastic.  My swords are "functional art",
designed for a lot of high-impact abuse.  This material stands up to
those demands better than any hardwood I've seen.   A lot of common
items are made from it, like the wheels on Hotwheel cars, plastic
gears, etc.  Unlike nylons or even ABS, it cuts very smoothly and
isn't chippy like polycarbonate.  Delrin is a trademarked name.  The
generic name is acetyl.  I only order it in black, though I believe
the uncolored version is an off-white.  It's available in both flat
and round stock as well.  The lighting in the bottom photo shows the
coloring, but all my pieces look like that.  Though there is no grain
in acetyl, I get that effect by sanding and then buffing with
jeweler's rouge, which impregnates the surface with a reddish tint.

At some point I've love to have a 3d scanner.  Aside from some old
pieces I have on my wall, I know an antique dealer who specializes in
S.E. Asian artwork and weapons.  I'd love to be able to do more
accurate reproductions.  Some of those old swords have engraved blades
and highly detailed carved and even jeweled handles.

- Jeff

On Mar 23, 5:27 am, "Art Ransom"  wrote:

Now those are cool! Tell us more about Delrin.
I have a 3D laser scanner kit coming this week. It will allow me to 
generate a 2.5D or 3D STL file that can be pulled into an CAD package to 
produce the G code. If all goes well I will be able to do scans for you 
within a month.


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Re: Digest for legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 6 Messages in 2 Topics

2010-03-23 Thread Stickman 
All those pieces are made from delrin, which is a tough but easily
machined industrial-grade plastic.  My swords are "functional art",
designed for a lot of high-impact abuse.  This material stands up to
those demands better than any hardwood I've seen.   A lot of common
items are made from it, like the wheels on Hotwheel cars, plastic
gears, etc.  Unlike nylons or even ABS, it cuts very smoothly and
isn't chippy like polycarbonate.  Delrin is a trademarked name.  The
generic name is acetyl.  I only order it in black, though I believe
the uncolored version is an off-white.  It's available in both flat
and round stock as well.  The lighting in the bottom photo shows the
coloring, but all my pieces look like that.  Though there is no grain
in acetyl, I get that effect by sanding and then buffing with
jeweler's rouge, which impregnates the surface with a reddish tint.

At some point I've love to have a 3d scanner.  Aside from some old
pieces I have on my wall, I know an antique dealer who specializes in
S.E. Asian artwork and weapons.  I'd love to be able to do more
accurate reproductions.  Some of those old swords have engraved blades
and highly detailed carved and even jeweled handles.

- Jeff

On Mar 23, 5:27 am, "Art Ransom"  wrote:
> Now those are cool!  Tell us more about Delrin.  
>   I have a 3D laser scanner kit coming this week.  It will allow me to 
> generate a 2.5D or 3D STL file that can be pulled into an CAD package to 
> produce the G code.  If all goes well I will be able to do scans for you 
> within a month.

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Re: Digest for legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 6 Messages in 2 Topics

2010-03-23 Thread Stan Shuford 
The scanner sounds cool, Art. Keep us updated.

Stan Shuford



On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Art Ransom  wrote:

>  Now those are cool!  Tell us more about Delrin.
>   I have a 3D laser scanner kit coming this week.  It will allow me to
> generate a 2.5D or 3D STL file that can be pulled into an CAD package to
> produce the G code.  If all goes well I will be able to do scans for 
> youwithin a month.
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Re: Digest for legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 6 Messages in 2 Topics

2010-03-23 Thread Art Ransom 
Now those are cool!  Tell us more about Delrin.  
  I have a 3D laser scanner kit coming this week.  It will allow me to generate 
a 2.5D or 3D STL file that can be pulled into an CAD package to produce the G 
code.  If all goes well I will be able to do scans for you within a month.

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