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Re: Head-stock Play

2020-04-02 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

 I am happy for you.Thank you for letting us know.
Good going again Tim. ;-)
C.A.G.
On Thursday, April 2, 2020, 02:35:48 PM EDT, The Viking 
 wrote:  
 
 Tim nailed it. The shim idea worked like a charm.
With my digital calipers, I measured the play in the headstock - .077 to .080. 
I had a piece of scrap hardboard that was just shy of 1/8 thick. A couple 
passes thru my drum sander and I got the piece to right at 80 thou. Then I 
drilled and cut it to match Tim's measured drawing. I loosened the headstock 
housing screws and squeezed the shim into place. Reassembled with 3/4" screws 
and nylock nuts. (For anyone's future reference, my screws were 10-32.) 
If there is any play left, it's imperceptible to me. I'm sure my LOM is better 
now than it was brand new.
Thanks to all. I hope everyone stays healthy.
Jon Erik

On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 11:30:32 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote:

http://artscopes.com/ legacyornamentalmill/tools/ loose_movements/index.html

 

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Subject: RE: Head-stock Play

 

This article I wrote up a long time ago might help.

 

 

From: legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of The Viking
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:09 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Subject: Head-stock Play
 

 

 

Hello All,

 

I haven't used my LOM 900 for a few months, so today I cleaned and lubed it up. 
As part of that effort, I noticed that the head-stock has a bit of play in and 
out along the X axis - about 75 thou. I'm curious if that is inherent in these 
machines or has mine developed too much slop. If the answer is too much, what 
do I do about it?

 

Thanks very much in advance.

 

Jon Erik

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Re: Head-stock Play

2020-04-02 Thread The Viking

Tim nailed it. The shim idea worked like a charm.

With my digital calipers, I measured the play in the headstock - .077 to 
.080. I had a piece of scrap hardboard that was just shy of 1/8 thick. A 
couple passes thru my drum sander and I got the piece to right at 80 thou. 
Then I drilled and cut it to match Tim's measured drawing. I loosened the 
headstock housing screws and squeezed the shim into place. Reassembled with 
3/4" screws and nylock nuts. (For anyone's future reference, my screws were 
10-32.) 

If there is any play left, it's imperceptible to me. I'm sure my LOM is 
better now than it was brand new.

Thanks to all. I hope everyone stays healthy.

Jon Erik

On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 11:30:32 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote:
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> http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/loose_movements/index.html
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>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *
> artma...@comcast.net 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:16 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* RE: Head-stock Play
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> This article I wrote up a long time ago might help.
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> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *The Viking
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:09 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Head-stock Play
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> Hello All,
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>
> I haven't used my LOM 900 for a few months, so today I cleaned and lubed 
> it up. As part of that effort, I noticed that the head-stock has a bit of 
> play in and out along the X axis - about 75 thou. I'm curious if that is 
> inherent in these machines or has mine developed too much slop. If the 
> answer is too much, what do I do about it?
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>
> Thanks very much in advance.
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> Jon Erik
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Re: Head-stock Play

2020-03-31 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Sorry Tim. I did not ready your link until after I posted. ;-) If it makes
you feel any better, I think you would right. ;-pIm going to bed now.
Have a good night. (Its been a LONG day's/night.) ;-)C.A.G.
On Wednesday, April 1, 2020, 12:39:19 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
Ornamental Mills wrote:

Hello Everyone. Jon. The plastic bushing can ware out. Cindy at Legacy
can/should be able to get you some new ones made. I have no idea on the price?
Perhaps you should call and find out more before you make any harsh decisions?
As Bill stated, I made my own head stock with Ball Bearings years ago. due to
my bushing wearing out, (granted my bushing were over stressed due to my weight
of work load I was turning at that time...Totally my fault not a design flaw.)
Making a new head stock was not hard to do. ( I made a step by step posting
years ago. on the group page.)I also know if I spent more time looking, I most
likely could have re-used my original head stock, instead of making my own from
scratch.Someone also (I think it was Bill.) already stated that Legacy latter
re-designed the original head stock and made them with ball bearings. By doing
so they changed the center point of the Legacy. No big deal, but this would
mean you will also have to change your tail stock and replace your old on with
a new tail stock to match the new head stock. Lots of info. to be had on this
topic, Please read as much as you can In order to make the best choice's on
which was to go.As a get me by. you could always try to shim your bushing to
re-true it. or perhaps just loosening up the bushings up and just re-adjusting
them to re-true what you have ?I wish you luck on this one.Please let us know
how everything turns out.Have a good night.
C.A.G
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020, 02:09:13 PM EDT, The Viking
wrote:

Hello All,
I haven't used my LOM 900 for a few months, so today I cleaned and lubed it up.
As part of that effort, I noticed that the head-stock has a bit of play in and
out along the X axis - about 75 thou. I'm curious if that is inherent in these
machines or has mine developed too much slop. If the answer is too much, what
do I do about it?
Thanks very much in advance.
Jon Erik

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Re: Head-stock Play

2020-03-31 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

RE: Head-stock Play

2020-03-31 Thread bulkeley

Some of the legacys the later versions had ball bearing head stocks which 
stopped this problem. Curt added ball bearings to his mill I’m sure he will 
chime in soon and show how he did his.my mills all had ball bearing head 
stocks. But the mills I have now don’t so I will replace the Delrin bushes with 
ball bearings when they become sloppy like yours.

 

Bill

 

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Subject: Head-stock Play

 

 

 

Hello All,

 

I haven't used my LOM 900 for a few months, so today I cleaned and lubed it up. 
As part of that effort, I noticed that the head-stock has a bit of play in and 
out along the X axis - about 75 thou. I'm curious if that is inherent in these 
machines or has mine developed too much slop. If the answer is too much, what 
do I do about it?

 

Thanks very much in advance.

 

Jon Erik

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RE: Head-stock Play

2020-03-31 Thread artmarbles

http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/loose_movements/index.html

 

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Subject: RE: Head-stock Play

 

This article I wrote up a long time ago might help.

 

 

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Subject: Head-stock Play

 

 

 

Hello All,

 

I haven't used my LOM 900 for a few months, so today I cleaned and lubed it up. 
As part of that effort, I noticed that the head-stock has a bit of play in and 
out along the X axis - about 75 thou. I'm curious if that is inherent in these 
machines or has mine developed too much slop. If the answer is too much, what 
do I do about it?

 

Thanks very much in advance.

 

Jon Erik

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Re: Head-stock Play

2020-03-31 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted)

Hello Tim, Article did not come through

On 3/31/2020 1:15 PM, artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:

This article I wrote up a long time ago might help.

*From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
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*Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:09 AM
*To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
*Subject:* Head-stock Play

Hello All,

I haven't used my LOM 900 for a few months, so today I cleaned and
lubed it up. As part of that effort, I noticed that the head-stock has
a bit of play in and out along the X axis - about 75 thou. I'm curious
if that is inherent in these machines or has mine developed too much
slop. If the answer is too much, what do I do about it?

Thanks very much in advance.

Jon Erik

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RE: Head-stock Play

2020-03-31 Thread artmarbles

This article I wrote up a long time ago might help.

 

 

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 On Behalf Of The Viking
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:09 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Head-stock Play

 

 

 

Hello All,

 

I haven't used my LOM 900 for a few months, so today I cleaned and lubed it up. 
As part of that effort, I noticed that the head-stock has a bit of play in and 
out along the X axis - about 75 thou. I'm curious if that is inherent in these 
machines or has mine developed too much slop. If the answer is too much, what 
do I do about it?

 

Thanks very much in advance.

 

Jon Erik

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