Re: time to put up or shut up!

2013-08-26 Thread finun...@aol.com
@dewell...thanks for the link...i had seen their products in the 
past...what i would really like to find is the exact extrusion that legacy 
used/uses...does anyone know if the legacy rails are proprietary?...did 
legacy design and manufacture their rails for their equipment?...if they 
did use an extrusion that was already being produced, does anyone know 
where to get it?

@tim...thanks for the source on the lead screw!...will definitely look into 
going that route, if possible...and i will try to find greg and perhaps see 
if he can send a photo of those supports...would like to think legacy would 
be helpful here and i am going to give that a try...they have been helpful 
so far, specifically john

again, thanks to all for their ideas and suggestions, joe biunno

On Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:30:09 PM UTC-4, finu...@aol.com wrote:

 joe biunno here...just got back from the Pittsburgh(actually Gibsonia) 
 area after purchasing a very nice 1200...like new condition...gear motor 
 drive... all controls and limit switches...z axis upgrade...numerous 
 accessories...this was listed on ebay not too long ago but got no 
 bids...sent an e-mail, a little back and forth dickering and before i knew 
 it, i was on my way(6 1/2 hour drive each way)...so now i have the two 
 machines to combine into one...overall length will be 17 ftwith 16 ft 
 between centers...first phase is to design a functional and straight( 
 i.e.-NO sag) base...with wheels, which is a must in our shop...once that is 
 done i will set up the two machines( the other being an 1800) and see to 
 what extent and complexity i need the attach the two together...if the base 
 does it's job well(to near perfection is my standard), then joining the two 
 will be easy...but of course joining the lead screw will be difficult, but 
 doable, in my opinion...or i can possibly find one in the length needed for 
 this application...i am more concerned about setting up a support system 
 for the screw...i did see the photo of that very large legacy that tim 
 posted, but enlarging it did not give me the details needed to reproduce 
 it...i might wonder if andy, tracy or john could help with a better photo 
 of the apparatus...might be asking a lot as it is their design...i would 
 buy the assembly from them if they offered it to me, but not sure how 
 receptive they would be to that idea...on another note,i'll throw a hook 
 out there and offer a possibility that i might sell a number of items that 
 have been duplicated from these two purchases...i have gear sets 
 galore...indexing plate sets...horizontal vises...and other pieces...i need 
 to list on paper everything i have to organize it better...and three, z 
 axis upgrades...one i'll need of course...the others consist of a complete 
 unit and one tower does not have the rails...i'll decide what i want to 
 keep, once i have completed the modification...i am also considering 
 selling the better cnc performance upgrade that was available back in 
 '08...this is new and never used(and originally $8,000, i believe)...most 
 packages still sealed/never opened...what price?-not sure yet...might 
 consider an ebay thing, although i have never sold on ebay...anyway, hope 
 to photograph the work as it progresses and post it to the site...take care 
 and wish me luck...i'm going to need it!


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Re: time to put up or shut up!

2013-08-26 Thread curt george
Good morning Joe.
I'm sorry to say that Legacy did own the rights and have there rail custom made 
for there machines, And I am again sorry to say,that they can not get it 
anymore, that is the main reason why Legacy made that big move to the liner 
rails and the smaller machines.
But having said that, there are a few ideas that you could try to combine your 
two machines together.
Its pretty easy to make spanners and hook the two sets of rails together,but 
since you are looking at 17 feet of rail. I would recommend that you either add 
a set of 80/20 rail under the Legacy's or replace the Legacy's center rails all 
together, I believe with that kind of span the Alum, will bow under a load, I 
feel its needs to be re-enforced in some way. but that is my opinion only, and 
have no proof that this will happen.(its just a feeling.)

Have you thought about hooking up the two machines together, end to end. And 
keeping them each as there own unit? two carriages, two separate sets of rails 
and two separate screws, all combined together so that you can make the long 
parts. Yes there would be a dead zone where the machines could not reach, but 
that could easily be fixed by flipping the spindle over so that the longer 
machine could then hit the dead zone with a clean up pass  this would  be easer 
to do and might make production faster. and if you combine the two lead screws 
together with a Love/Joy coupler you could easily use the two machines  
separately if wanted..Again this is just an idea?

I would also recommend that you buy/make a spindle motor for your new machines, 
this will give you a much better finish on your spindles (the quality of the 
cut.) And the gears can be used for the roping and other Ornamental elements. 
BUT if you ask me the spindle drive motor is a must for production work.

I wish you luck, Please keep up informed and up to date on your ventures, They 
sound pretty exciting. ;-)
C.A.G.
  - Original Message - 
  From: finun...@aol.com 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 5:57 AM
  Subject: Re: time to put up or shut up!


  @dewell...thanks for the link...i had seen their products in the past...what 
i would really like to find is the exact extrusion that legacy used/uses...does 
anyone know if the legacy rails are proprietary?...did legacy design and 
manufacture their rails for their equipment?...if they did use an extrusion 
that was already being produced, does anyone know where to get it?


  @tim...thanks for the source on the lead screw!...will definitely look into 
going that route, if possible...and i will try to find greg and perhaps see if 
he can send a photo of those supports...would like to think legacy would be 
helpful here and i am going to give that a try...they have been helpful so far, 
specifically john


  again, thanks to all for their ideas and suggestions, joe biunno

  On Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:30:09 PM UTC-4, finu...@aol.com wrote:
joe biunno here...just got back from the Pittsburgh(actually Gibsonia) area 
after purchasing a very nice 1200...like new condition...gear motor drive... 
all controls and limit switches...z axis upgrade...numerous accessories...this 
was listed on ebay not too long ago but got no bids...sent an e-mail, a little 
back and forth dickering and before i knew it, i was on my way(6 1/2 hour drive 
each way)...so now i have the two machines to combine into one...overall length 
will be 17 ftwith 16 ft between centers...first phase is to design a 
functional and straight( i.e.-NO sag) base...with wheels, which is a must in 
our shop...once that is done i will set up the two machines( the other being an 
1800) and see to what extent and complexity i need the attach the two 
together...if the base does it's job well(to near perfection is my standard), 
then joining the two will be easy...but of course joining the lead screw will 
be difficult, but doable, in my opinion...or i can possibly find one in the 
length needed for this application...i am more concerned about setting up a 
support system for the screw...i did see the photo of that very large legacy 
that tim posted, but enlarging it did not give me the details needed to 
reproduce it...i might wonder if andy, tracy or john could help with a better 
photo of the apparatus...might be asking a lot as it is their design...i would 
buy the assembly from them if they offered it to me, but not sure how receptive 
they would be to that idea...on another note,i'll throw a hook out there and 
offer a possibility that i might sell a number of items that have been 
duplicated from these two purchases...i have gear sets galore...indexing plate 
sets...horizontal vises...and other pieces...i need to list on paper everything 
i have to organize it better...and three, z axis upgrades...one i'll need of 
course...the others consist of a complete unit and one tower does not have the 
rails...i'll decide what i want to keep, once i

RE: time to put up or shut up!

2013-08-26 Thread Dewell Crews
ALUMINUM RAILINGS -TUBING AND THE LIKE.8020.NET (80/20 Inc.)

 

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hi curtis...thanks for the reply...well, too bad regarding rails...that
wasn't a necessity anyway, so we move forward!...although having access to
it, could have made jigs and fixtures a bit easier to construct and mesh
into our machines...in regards to sag issues, i plan on building a wood base
for the machine in such a way that there will virtually be no sag in the
base(at best, perhaps a very small shim will be needed in the center of the
machine, to true things up)...a design of vertical, 3/4, baltic birch
plywood, 16-24 wide, with many pieces staggered, should do the job
easily...only in my case, the base must come apart in pieces no longer than
8 ft...i have done this before, so i have a high confidence of getting this
done well...i do anticipate sag in the bed...but since the bed gets locked
into the vertical machine supports, i am thinking some square aluminum
tubing(probably 1 1/2 sq.  with a 1/4 wall) strategically placed across
the joints of only the bed will keep the bed rails from sagging...the same
idea for the joints of the machine as well...this will keep all the joints
not only from sagging, but straight, front to back as well(i.e. up and down
,front to back will be straight)...but again, the key is that these rails
get tightened against the vertical supports...i cannot combine the two
machines together as independent pieces as the work i intend to do needs to
be continuous, no breaks...and the flipping idea is awkward as i need to
have this set-up be as user friendly as possible(hey!,someone has to be able
to use this while i am chasing down machines!...LOL!)...and in regards to
setting up a spindle motor...i currently do all my turnings on an oliver
pattern maker's lathe...96 between centers...can handle all our bed
posts,table legs and other turnings quite well...has an 8ft. vega duplicator
on the backside(getting that extra long, aluminum extrusion was quite a
feat!, as vega does not make a duplicator that long), and easily handles all
oour repetitive work, while allowing traditional turning for our single
pieces while workink of the front of the lathe...what the legacy will be
primarily used for is to do curtain poles, which i can get plain round, in
2, 2 1/4 and 2 1/2 diameters and in lengths of 16ft. or more, if
necessary...but i do want to make this set up do all that a typical legacy
could do, so a spindle motor mod will be done in the near future...but i see
this as only being necessary for long, large diameter work that would not
fit into the oliver lathe...but i always consider the re-sale value of a
machine when doing modifications so there will be an all out effort to do it
right from the get go...again, many thanks for your input and keep the ideas
and thoughts coming!...joe biunno


On Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:30:09 PM UTC-4, finu...@aol.com wrote:

joe biunno here...just got back from the Pittsburgh(actually Gibsonia) area
after purchasing a very nice 1200...like new condition...gear motor drive...
all controls and limit switches...z axis upgrade...numerous
accessories...this was listed on ebay not too long ago but got no
bids...sent an e-mail, a little back and forth dickering and before i knew
it, i was on my way(6 1/2 hour drive each way)...so now i have the two
machines to combine into one...overall length will be 17 ftwith 16 ft
between centers...first phase is to design a functional and straight(
i.e.-NO sag) base...with wheels, which is a must in our shop...once that is
done i will set up the two machines( the other being an 1800) and see to
what extent and complexity i need the attach the two together...if the base
does it's job well(to near perfection is my standard), then joining the two
will be easy...but of course joining the lead screw will be difficult, but
doable, in my opinion...or i can possibly find one in the length needed for
this application...i am more concerned about setting up a support system for
the screw...i did see the photo of that very large legacy that tim posted,
but enlarging it did not give me the details needed to reproduce it...i
might wonder if andy, tracy or john could help with a better photo of the
apparatus...might be asking a lot as it is their design...i would buy the
assembly from them if they offered it to me, but not sure how receptive they
would be to that idea...on another note,i'll throw a hook out there and
offer a possibility that i might sell a number of items that have been
duplicated from these two purchases...i have gear sets galore...indexing
plate sets...horizontal vises...and other pieces...i need to list on paper
everything i have to organize it better...and three, z axis upgrades

RE: time to put up or shut up!

2013-08-26 Thread Dewell Crews
Tape or set a ruler on top of the railing, take a close up picture and send
it to 80/20 Inc. I am sure they can help you or give you some guidance. (No,
I don't work for 80/20) J Have a good day all!

 

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finun...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 5:57 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: time to put up or shut up!

 

@dewell...thanks for the link...i had seen their products in the past...what
i would really like to find is the exact extrusion that legacy
used/uses...does anyone know if the legacy rails are proprietary?...did
legacy design and manufacture their rails for their equipment?...if they did
use an extrusion that was already being produced, does anyone know where to
get it?

 

@tim...thanks for the source on the lead screw!...will definitely look into
going that route, if possible...and i will try to find greg and perhaps see
if he can send a photo of those supports...would like to think legacy would
be helpful here and i am going to give that a try...they have been helpful
so far, specifically john

 

again, thanks to all for their ideas and suggestions, joe biunno

On Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:30:09 PM UTC-4, finu...@aol.com wrote:

joe biunno here...just got back from the Pittsburgh(actually Gibsonia) area
after purchasing a very nice 1200...like new condition...gear motor drive...
all controls and limit switches...z axis upgrade...numerous
accessories...this was listed on ebay not too long ago but got no
bids...sent an e-mail, a little back and forth dickering and before i knew
it, i was on my way(6 1/2 hour drive each way)...so now i have the two
machines to combine into one...overall length will be 17 ftwith 16 ft
between centers...first phase is to design a functional and straight(
i.e.-NO sag) base...with wheels, which is a must in our shop...once that is
done i will set up the two machines( the other being an 1800) and see to
what extent and complexity i need the attach the two together...if the base
does it's job well(to near perfection is my standard), then joining the two
will be easy...but of course joining the lead screw will be difficult, but
doable, in my opinion...or i can possibly find one in the length needed for
this application...i am more concerned about setting up a support system for
the screw...i did see the photo of that very large legacy that tim posted,
but enlarging it did not give me the details needed to reproduce it...i
might wonder if andy, tracy or john could help with a better photo of the
apparatus...might be asking a lot as it is their design...i would buy the
assembly from them if they offered it to me, but not sure how receptive they
would be to that idea...on another note,i'll throw a hook out there and
offer a possibility that i might sell a number of items that have been
duplicated from these two purchases...i have gear sets galore...indexing
plate sets...horizontal vises...and other pieces...i need to list on paper
everything i have to organize it better...and three, z axis upgrades...one
i'll need of course...the others consist of a complete unit and one tower
does not have the rails...i'll decide what i want to keep, once i have
completed the modification...i am also considering selling the better cnc
performance upgrade that was available back in '08...this is new and never
used(and originally $8,000, i believe)...most packages still sealed/never
opened...what price?-not sure yet...might consider an ebay thing, although i
have never sold on ebay...anyway, hope to photograph the work as it
progresses and post it to the site...take care and wish me luck...i'm going
to need it!

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Re: time to put up or shut up!

2013-08-26 Thread finun...@aol.com
@ dewel...thanks for the suggestion...but one priority of this mod is to 
keep the machine as original as possible...if i change the rail system, 
perhaps new screw plates need to be made for the accessories...granted, not 
a big problem to overcome, but any mod eliminated just puts me that much 
closer to completion...i am not on a deadline to complete this project, but 
i do want to finish it as soon as possible...again, thanks...joe biunno

On Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:30:09 PM UTC-4, finu...@aol.com wrote:

 joe biunno here...just got back from the Pittsburgh(actually Gibsonia) 
 area after purchasing a very nice 1200...like new condition...gear motor 
 drive... all controls and limit switches...z axis upgrade...numerous 
 accessories...this was listed on ebay not too long ago but got no 
 bids...sent an e-mail, a little back and forth dickering and before i knew 
 it, i was on my way(6 1/2 hour drive each way)...so now i have the two 
 machines to combine into one...overall length will be 17 ftwith 16 ft 
 between centers...first phase is to design a functional and straight( 
 i.e.-NO sag) base...with wheels, which is a must in our shop...once that is 
 done i will set up the two machines( the other being an 1800) and see to 
 what extent and complexity i need the attach the two together...if the base 
 does it's job well(to near perfection is my standard), then joining the two 
 will be easy...but of course joining the lead screw will be difficult, but 
 doable, in my opinion...or i can possibly find one in the length needed for 
 this application...i am more concerned about setting up a support system 
 for the screw...i did see the photo of that very large legacy that tim 
 posted, but enlarging it did not give me the details needed to reproduce 
 it...i might wonder if andy, tracy or john could help with a better photo 
 of the apparatus...might be asking a lot as it is their design...i would 
 buy the assembly from them if they offered it to me, but not sure how 
 receptive they would be to that idea...on another note,i'll throw a hook 
 out there and offer a possibility that i might sell a number of items that 
 have been duplicated from these two purchases...i have gear sets 
 galore...indexing plate sets...horizontal vises...and other pieces...i need 
 to list on paper everything i have to organize it better...and three, z 
 axis upgrades...one i'll need of course...the others consist of a complete 
 unit and one tower does not have the rails...i'll decide what i want to 
 keep, once i have completed the modification...i am also considering 
 selling the better cnc performance upgrade that was available back in 
 '08...this is new and never used(and originally $8,000, i believe)...most 
 packages still sealed/never opened...what price?-not sure yet...might 
 consider an ebay thing, although i have never sold on ebay...anyway, hope 
 to photograph the work as it progresses and post it to the site...take care 
 and wish me luck...i'm going to need it!


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RE: time to put up or shut up!

2013-08-26 Thread Bill Bulkeley
I think you could successfully join 2 legacys together join the rails and
join the leadscrews into one long one no flipping and just support the rail
with legs like legacy themselves do there is a leadscrew support too to stop
it sagging as well. There is a write up some were on the group for joining
rails and to join a leadscrew drill a hole in the end of one and turn a
spigot on the end of another and locktite them together with the strongest
locktite avalible this works because i joined 2 leadscrews  together and
lengthened my mill with longer rails.

Bill

 

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Subject: Re: time to put up or shut up!

 

@ dewel...thanks for the suggestion...but one priority of this mod is to
keep the machine as original as possible...if i change the rail system,
perhaps new screw plates need to be made for the accessories...granted, not
a big problem to overcome, but any mod eliminated just puts me that much
closer to completion...i am not on a deadline to complete this project, but
i do want to finish it as soon as possible...again, thanks...joe biunno

On Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:30:09 PM UTC-4, finu...@aol.com wrote:

joe biunno here...just got back from the Pittsburgh(actually Gibsonia) area
after purchasing a very nice 1200...like new condition...gear motor drive...
all controls and limit switches...z axis upgrade...numerous
accessories...this was listed on ebay not too long ago but got no
bids...sent an e-mail, a little back and forth dickering and before i knew
it, i was on my way(6 1/2 hour drive each way)...so now i have the two
machines to combine into one...overall length will be 17 ftwith 16 ft
between centers...first phase is to design a functional and straight(
i.e.-NO sag) base...with wheels, which is a must in our shop...once that is
done i will set up the two machines( the other being an 1800) and see to
what extent and complexity i need the attach the two together...if the base
does it's job well(to near perfection is my standard), then joining the two
will be easy...but of course joining the lead screw will be difficult, but
doable, in my opinion...or i can possibly find one in the length needed for
this application...i am more concerned about setting up a support system for
the screw...i did see the photo of that very large legacy that tim posted,
but enlarging it did not give me the details needed to reproduce it...i
might wonder if andy, tracy or john could help with a better photo of the
apparatus...might be asking a lot as it is their design...i would buy the
assembly from them if they offered it to me, but not sure how receptive they
would be to that idea...on another note,i'll throw a hook out there and
offer a possibility that i might sell a number of items that have been
duplicated from these two purchases...i have gear sets galore...indexing
plate sets...horizontal vises...and other pieces...i need to list on paper
everything i have to organize it better...and three, z axis upgrades...one
i'll need of course...the others consist of a complete unit and one tower
does not have the rails...i'll decide what i want to keep, once i have
completed the modification...i am also considering selling the better cnc
performance upgrade that was available back in '08...this is new and never
used(and originally $8,000, i believe)...most packages still sealed/never
opened...what price?-not sure yet...might consider an ebay thing, although i
have never sold on ebay...anyway, hope to photograph the work as it
progresses and post it to the site...take care and wish me luck...i'm going
to need it!

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Re: time to put up or shut up!

2013-08-25 Thread Tim Krause
If you're reading the messages online, you're the only one that can see the 
Me.  I get your messages via email and the from line is Dewell.  If I read 
the messages online, your name appears as, Dewell.

-Tim

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   I'm sure, this message indicated it is from me. Would someone please tell 
me how to change it as clicking change hasn't worked for me. best Regards, 
Dewell 

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RE: time to put up or shut up!

2013-08-25 Thread Dewell Crews
Thank you for explaining..by best friend told me that if I had another wit -
I would be a half-wit. You don't need to second that, Tim. J

Thanks again,

dewell

 

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If you're reading the messages online, you're the only one that can see the
Me.  I get your messages via email and the from line is Dewell.  If I read
the messages online, your name appears as, Dewell.

 

-Tim

 

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Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 5:53 PM

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 I'm sure, this message indicated it is from me. Would someone please tell
me how to change it as clicking change hasn't worked for me. best Regards,
Dewell 


 

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Re: time to put up or shut up!

2013-08-24 Thread Tim Krause
Give the folks at Dependable Acme a call and see if they can make a long screw 
for you. 1-800-893-3792.   

I recall 1 member that owns a model 2000.  I his name was Greg Walker.  Maybe 
if he is still monitoring this list he might chime in regarding the acme thread 
support?  If he does not speak up, his contact information is in some of the 
older messages. 

-Tim

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Re: time to put up or shut up!

2013-08-24 Thread Dewell
Hello Joe,
Check out 80/20.net (80/20 Inc.) for metal railings etcFrom Dewell (for 
some reason - secondary to my stupidity, I'm sure, this message indicated 
it is from me. Would someone please tell me how to change it as clicking 
change hasn't worked for me. best Regards, Dewell 

On Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:30:09 PM UTC-4, finu...@aol.com wrote:

 joe biunno here...just got back from the Pittsburgh(actually Gibsonia) 
 area after purchasing a very nice 1200...like new condition...gear motor 
 drive... all controls and limit switches...z axis upgrade...numerous 
 accessories...this was listed on ebay not too long ago but got no 
 bids...sent an e-mail, a little back and forth dickering and before i knew 
 it, i was on my way(6 1/2 hour drive each way)...so now i have the two 
 machines to combine into one...overall length will be 17 ftwith 16 ft 
 between centers...first phase is to design a functional and straight( 
 i.e.-NO sag) base...with wheels, which is a must in our shop...once that is 
 done i will set up the two machines( the other being an 1800) and see to 
 what extent and complexity i need the attach the two together...if the base 
 does it's job well(to near perfection is my standard), then joining the two 
 will be easy...but of course joining the lead screw will be difficult, but 
 doable, in my opinion...or i can possibly find one in the length needed for 
 this application...i am more concerned about setting up a support system 
 for the screw...i did see the photo of that very large legacy that tim 
 posted, but enlarging it did not give me the details needed to reproduce 
 it...i might wonder if andy, tracy or john could help with a better photo 
 of the apparatus...might be asking a lot as it is their design...i would 
 buy the assembly from them if they offered it to me, but not sure how 
 receptive they would be to that idea...on another note,i'll throw a hook 
 out there and offer a possibility that i might sell a number of items that 
 have been duplicated from these two purchases...i have gear sets 
 galore...indexing plate sets...horizontal vises...and other pieces...i need 
 to list on paper everything i have to organize it better...and three, z 
 axis upgrades...one i'll need of course...the others consist of a complete 
 unit and one tower does not have the rails...i'll decide what i want to 
 keep, once i have completed the modification...i am also considering 
 selling the better cnc performance upgrade that was available back in 
 '08...this is new and never used(and originally $8,000, i believe)...most 
 packages still sealed/never opened...what price?-not sure yet...might 
 consider an ebay thing, although i have never sold on ebay...anyway, hope 
 to photograph the work as it progresses and post it to the site...take care 
 and wish me luck...i'm going to need it!


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Re: time to put up or shut up!

2013-08-24 Thread Dewell
Joe, Sorry...the correct address is *http://www.8020.net*http://www.8020.net
*.*
On Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:30:09 PM UTC-4, finu...@aol.com wrote:

 joe biunno here...just got back from the Pittsburgh(actually Gibsonia) 
 area after purchasing a very nice 1200...like new condition...gear motor 
 drive... all controls and limit switches...z axis upgrade...numerous 
 accessories...this was listed on ebay not too long ago but got no 
 bids...sent an e-mail, a little back and forth dickering and before i knew 
 it, i was on my way(6 1/2 hour drive each way)...so now i have the two 
 machines to combine into one...overall length will be 17 ftwith 16 ft 
 between centers...first phase is to design a functional and straight( 
 i.e.-NO sag) base...with wheels, which is a must in our shop...once that is 
 done i will set up the two machines( the other being an 1800) and see to 
 what extent and complexity i need the attach the two together...if the base 
 does it's job well(to near perfection is my standard), then joining the two 
 will be easy...but of course joining the lead screw will be difficult, but 
 doable, in my opinion...or i can possibly find one in the length needed for 
 this application...i am more concerned about setting up a support system 
 for the screw...i did see the photo of that very large legacy that tim 
 posted, but enlarging it did not give me the details needed to reproduce 
 it...i might wonder if andy, tracy or john could help with a better photo 
 of the apparatus...might be asking a lot as it is their design...i would 
 buy the assembly from them if they offered it to me, but not sure how 
 receptive they would be to that idea...on another note,i'll throw a hook 
 out there and offer a possibility that i might sell a number of items that 
 have been duplicated from these two purchases...i have gear sets 
 galore...indexing plate sets...horizontal vises...and other pieces...i need 
 to list on paper everything i have to organize it better...and three, z 
 axis upgrades...one i'll need of course...the others consist of a complete 
 unit and one tower does not have the rails...i'll decide what i want to 
 keep, once i have completed the modification...i am also considering 
 selling the better cnc performance upgrade that was available back in 
 '08...this is new and never used(and originally $8,000, i believe)...most 
 packages still sealed/never opened...what price?-not sure yet...might 
 consider an ebay thing, although i have never sold on ebay...anyway, hope 
 to photograph the work as it progresses and post it to the site...take care 
 and wish me luck...i'm going to need it!


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