Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

Interesting Joe

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 1:15 PM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental
Mills  wrote:

> not important to this thread per se, but I was told years ago that a
> company in Westbury NY supplied the lead screws for the Legacy machines
> directly to the Legacy company... I went directly to them for the 16ft
> piece I needed for my Legacy length modification and had a somewhat lengthy
> conversation with the company's management... moot point now but relevant
> if anyone in the group needs a length of lead screw for their own
> modifications... strange thing about it was the fact that the company was
> about 1/8 mile from where I was living at the time... the mod gods were
> with me for that very much needed part!... LOL!... Joe B.
>
> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 11:32:12 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> I'm glad your's worked out.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:15 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, I checked my tap against the lead screw and they
>>> nested perfectly full length.  So the ACME tap which I think
>>> I got from McMaster Carr seems correct.
>>> DanK
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:31:12 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Tim Porter,
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if you saw my email but I may have a length to sell.
>>>> What length are you looking for?
>>>> You can private email me and we can possibly discuss this.
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>
>>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:55 PM Tim Porter  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bill
>>>>>
>>>>> I spoke with Legacy this morning and they made their own lead screws
>>>>> and they were indeed square profile threads. This would make sense as the
>>>>> trapezoid profile would push the screw out of engagement with a load.  If 
>>>>> I
>>>>> had access to a lathe I would make a thread chaser tool to rework the
>>>>> profile of my half nuts made with the standard acme tap
>>>>>
>>>>> Anybody got a piece of lead screw floating around?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>>>>> 1902 Dandridge St  Apt 7
>>>>> Sun City Center. FL 33573
>>>>> 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:25 PM, Tim Porter  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Got me.   Not sure where the machine came from, as it is far older
>>>>> than anyone here knows about but since we have the owners manual and stuff
>>>>> I am thinking it was purchased new.  I don’t believe anyone would have
>>>>> changed out the lead screws and I am pretty sure they have a square
>>>>> profile.  I will double check it when I go back in Wednesday.  I am going
>>>>> to reach out to Legacy to see if they can shed any light on it.   I am 
>>>>> also
>>>>> going to put a notice on this board to see if someone had a piece of lead
>>>>> screw on hand.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>>>>> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
>>>>> Sun City Center FL 33573
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> H. 813-419-4169 <(813)%20419-4169>
>>>>> C. 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:05 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know legacy never made a square thread leadscrew I didn’t
>>>>> notice that in your 

Re: Split nut tap

['finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

not important to this thread per se, but I was told years ago that a 
company in Westbury NY supplied the lead screws for the Legacy machines 
directly to the Legacy company... I went directly to them for the 16ft 
piece I needed for my Legacy length modification and had a somewhat lengthy 
conversation with the company's management... moot point now but relevant 
if anyone in the group needs a length of lead screw for their own 
modifications... strange thing about it was the fact that the company was 
about 1/8 mile from where I was living at the time... the mod gods were 
with me for that very much needed part!... LOL!... Joe B.

On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 11:32:12 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

> I'm glad your's worked out. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:15 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> BTW, I checked my tap against the lead screw and they 
>> nested perfectly full length.  So the ACME tap which I think
>> I got from McMaster Carr seems correct.  
>> DanK
>>
>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:31:12 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Tim Porter, 
>>>
>>> Not sure if you saw my email but I may have a length to sell.  
>>> What length are you looking for? 
>>> You can private email me and we can possibly discuss this. 
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:55 PM Tim Porter  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bill
>>>>
>>>> I spoke with Legacy this morning and they made their own lead screws 
>>>> and they were indeed square profile threads. This would make sense as the 
>>>> trapezoid profile would push the screw out of engagement with a load.  If 
>>>> I 
>>>> had access to a lathe I would make a thread chaser tool to rework the 
>>>> profile of my half nuts made with the standard acme tap
>>>>
>>>> Anybody got a piece of lead screw floating around?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>>>> 1902 Dandridge St  Apt 7
>>>> Sun City Center. FL 33573
>>>> 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:25 PM, Tim Porter  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Got me.   Not sure where the machine came from, as it is far older 
>>>> than anyone here knows about but since we have the owners manual and stuff 
>>>> I am thinking it was purchased new.  I don’t believe anyone would have 
>>>> changed out the lead screws and I am pretty sure they have a square 
>>>> profile.  I will double check it when I go back in Wednesday.  I am going 
>>>> to reach out to Legacy to see if they can shed any light on it.   I am 
>>>> also 
>>>> going to put a notice on this board to see if someone had a piece of lead 
>>>> screw on hand.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>>>> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
>>>> Sun City Center FL 33573
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> H. 813-419-4169 <(813)%20419-4169>
>>>> C. 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:05 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know legacy never made a square thread leadscrew I didn’t 
>>>> notice that in your pics where did that leadscrew come from ?
>>>>
>>>> One of the members might have one they could sell to you to make it 
>>>> right or there are places that sell it I believe 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Porter
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 3:45 AM
>>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Split 

Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

I'm glad your's worked out.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:15 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> BTW, I checked my tap against the lead screw and they
> nested perfectly full length.  So the ACME tap which I think
> I got from McMaster Carr seems correct.
> DanK
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:31:12 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Hey Tim Porter,
>>
>> Not sure if you saw my email but I may have a length to sell.
>> What length are you looking for?
>> You can private email me and we can possibly discuss this.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:55 PM Tim Porter  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill
>>>
>>> I spoke with Legacy this morning and they made their own lead screws and
>>> they were indeed square profile threads. This would make sense as the
>>> trapezoid profile would push the screw out of engagement with a load.  If I
>>> had access to a lathe I would make a thread chaser tool to rework the
>>> profile of my half nuts made with the standard acme tap
>>>
>>> Anybody got a piece of lead screw floating around?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>>> 1902 Dandridge St  Apt 7
>>> Sun City Center. FL 33573
>>> 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:25 PM, Tim Porter  wrote:
>>>
>>> Got me.   Not sure where the machine came from, as it is far older than
>>> anyone here knows about but since we have the owners manual and stuff I am
>>> thinking it was purchased new.  I don’t believe anyone would have changed
>>> out the lead screws and I am pretty sure they have a square profile.  I
>>> will double check it when I go back in Wednesday.  I am going to reach out
>>> to Legacy to see if they can shed any light on it.   I am also going to put
>>> a notice on this board to see if someone had a piece of lead screw on hand.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>>> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
>>> Sun City Center FL 33573
>>>
>>>
>>> H. 813-419-4169 <(813)%20419-4169>
>>> C. 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:05 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> As far as I know legacy never made a square thread leadscrew I didn’t
>>> notice that in your pics where did that leadscrew come from ?
>>>
>>> One of the members might have one they could sell to you to make it
>>> right or there are places that sell it I believe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Porter
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 3:45 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I took a closer look this morning while at the Woodshop and my half nuts
>>> were made with a tap that has trapezoid thread form, like a standard acme.
>>> The lead screw has square thread form, like a buttress thread.  I am going
>>> to consult my Machinery Handbook to find what is needed. But the difference
>>> between the two profiles is preventing the half nuts I had made from fully
>>> engaging. Diameters and lead are correct.  When I obtain the proper tap, I
>>> should be able to rethread my current blocks and be good to go.   BTW there
>>> is no reason these half nuts couldn’t be made from hard maple.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>>>
>>> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
>>>
>>> Sun City Center FL 33573
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> H. 813-419-4169 <(813)%20419-4169>
>>>
>>> C. 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 7:04 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:

Re: Split nut tap

[cdkr...@gmail.com]

BTW, I checked my tap against the lead screw and they 
nested perfectly full length.  So the ACME tap which I think
I got from McMaster Carr seems correct.  
DanK

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:31:12 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

> Hey Tim Porter, 
>
> Not sure if you saw my email but I may have a length to sell.  What length 
> are you looking for? 
> You can private email me and we can possibly discuss this. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:55 PM Tim Porter  wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill
>>
>> I spoke with Legacy this morning and they made their own lead screws and 
>> they were indeed square profile threads. This would make sense as the 
>> trapezoid profile would push the screw out of engagement with a load.  If I 
>> had access to a lathe I would make a thread chaser tool to rework the 
>> profile of my half nuts made with the standard acme tap
>>
>> Anybody got a piece of lead screw floating around?
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>> 1902 Dandridge St  Apt 7
>> Sun City Center. FL 33573
>> 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:25 PM, Tim Porter  wrote:
>>
>> Got me.   Not sure where the machine came from, as it is far older than 
>> anyone here knows about but since we have the owners manual and stuff I am 
>> thinking it was purchased new.  I don’t believe anyone would have changed 
>> out the lead screws and I am pretty sure they have a square profile.  I 
>> will double check it when I go back in Wednesday.  I am going to reach out 
>> to Legacy to see if they can shed any light on it.   I am also going to put 
>> a notice on this board to see if someone had a piece of lead screw on hand.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
>> Sun City Center FL 33573
>>
>>
>> H. 813-419-4169 <(813)%20419-4169>
>> C. 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:05 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> As far as I know legacy never made a square thread leadscrew I didn’t 
>> notice that in your pics where did that leadscrew come from ?
>>
>> One of the members might have one they could sell to you to make it right 
>> or there are places that sell it I believe 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Porter
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 3:45 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>>
>>  
>>
>> I took a closer look this morning while at the Woodshop and my half nuts 
>> were made with a tap that has trapezoid thread form, like a standard acme.  
>> The lead screw has square thread form, like a buttress thread.  I am going 
>> to consult my Machinery Handbook to find what is needed. But the difference 
>> between the two profiles is preventing the half nuts I had made from fully 
>> engaging. Diameters and lead are correct.  When I obtain the proper tap, I 
>> should be able to rethread my current blocks and be good to go.   BTW there 
>> is no reason these half nuts couldn’t be made from hard maple.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>  
>>
>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>>
>> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
>>
>> Sun City Center FL 33573
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> H. 813-419-4169 <(813)%20419-4169>
>>
>> C. 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 7:04 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I bought a tap during the original discussion, but haven't used it yet.  
>> Now I'm hafta check.
>>
>> DanK
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:59:13 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> Looks good Bill and does look like the same company I bought from. I will 
>> try to look it up in my history too. But they sure worked great.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
&

Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Tim Porter,

Not sure if you saw my email but I may have a length to sell.  What length
are you looking for?
You can private email me and we can possibly discuss this.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:55 PM Tim Porter  wrote:

> Hi Bill
>
> I spoke with Legacy this morning and they made their own lead screws and
> they were indeed square profile threads. This would make sense as the
> trapezoid profile would push the screw out of engagement with a load.  If I
> had access to a lathe I would make a thread chaser tool to rework the
> profile of my half nuts made with the standard acme tap
>
> Anybody got a piece of lead screw floating around?
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Tim and Cathy Porter
> 1902 Dandridge St  Apt 7
> Sun City Center. FL 33573
> 815-861-1505
>
> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:25 PM, Tim Porter  wrote:
>
> Got me.   Not sure where the machine came from, as it is far older than
> anyone here knows about but since we have the owners manual and stuff I am
> thinking it was purchased new.  I don’t believe anyone would have changed
> out the lead screws and I am pretty sure they have a square profile.  I
> will double check it when I go back in Wednesday.  I am going to reach out
> to Legacy to see if they can shed any light on it.   I am also going to put
> a notice on this board to see if someone had a piece of lead screw on hand.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Tim and Cathy Porter
> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
> Sun City Center FL 33573
>
>
> H. 813-419-4169
> C. 815-861-1505
>
> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:05 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> As far as I know legacy never made a square thread leadscrew I didn’t
> notice that in your pics where did that leadscrew come from ?
>
> One of the members might have one they could sell to you to make it right
> or there are places that sell it I believe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Porter
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 3:45 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>
>
>
> I took a closer look this morning while at the Woodshop and my half nuts
> were made with a tap that has trapezoid thread form, like a standard acme.
> The lead screw has square thread form, like a buttress thread.  I am going
> to consult my Machinery Handbook to find what is needed. But the difference
> between the two profiles is preventing the half nuts I had made from fully
> engaging. Diameters and lead are correct.  When I obtain the proper tap, I
> should be able to rethread my current blocks and be good to go.   BTW there
> is no reason these half nuts couldn’t be made from hard maple.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
> Tim and Cathy Porter
>
> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
>
> Sun City Center FL 33573
>
>
>
>
>
> H. 813-419-4169
>
> C. 815-861-1505
>
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2024, at 7:04 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I bought a tap during the original discussion, but haven't used it yet.
> Now I'm hafta check.
>
> DanK
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:59:13 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Looks good Bill and does look like the same company I bought from. I will
> try to look it up in my history too. But they sure worked great.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 10:03 PM  wrote:
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a=enc%
>
>
>
> this is the tap I would buy it looks like the one I bought but it is a
> trapezoidal tap so it will be 30 degrees and not 29 but because your tapping
>
> Delrin not metal there is a bit of leeway finding the exact correct one is
> almost impossible I looked for 10 years and of course you don’t know till
> you try it that it will work with a possible bad batch out there, I had to
> do that I took a chance and it worked, one last thing the recommended
> tapping drill
>
> Is a little small for Delrin and one degree out so 7/16 is what I used and
> it allows for the strange cutting properties of the Delrin. But all this is
> just what I would do you all must make up your own minds here is 

RE: Split nut tap

[bulkeley]

Well I didn’t know that thank you

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Porter
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 5:55 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Split nut tap

 

Hi Bill

 

I spoke with Legacy this morning and they made their own lead screws and they 
were indeed square profile threads. This would make sense as the trapezoid 
profile would push the screw out of engagement with a load.  If I had access to 
a lathe I would make a thread chaser tool to rework the profile of my half nuts 
made with the standard acme tap

 

Anybody got a piece of lead screw floating around?

 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

Tim and Cathy Porter

1902 Dandridge St  Apt 7

Sun City Center. FL 33573

815-861-1505





On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:25 PM, Tim Porter mailto:imatheb...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Got me.   Not sure where the machine came from, as it is far older than anyone 
here knows about but since we have the owners manual and stuff I am thinking it 
was purchased new.  I don’t believe anyone would have changed out the lead 
screws and I am pretty sure they have a square profile.  I will double check it 
when I go back in Wednesday.  I am going to reach out to Legacy to see if they 
can shed any light on it.   I am also going to put a notice on this board to 
see if someone had a piece of lead screw on hand.

 

 

Sent from my iPad

 

Tim and Cathy Porter

1902 Dandridge St  D7

Sun City Center FL 33573

 

 

H. 813-419-4169

C. 815-861-1505





On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:05 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



As far as I know legacy never made a square thread leadscrew I didn’t notice 
that in your pics where did that leadscrew come from ?

One of the members might have one they could sell to you to make it right or 
there are places that sell it I believe 

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Porter
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 3:45 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Split nut tap

 

I took a closer look this morning while at the Woodshop and my half nuts were 
made with a tap that has trapezoid thread form, like a standard acme.  The lead 
screw has square thread form, like a buttress thread.  I am going to consult my 
Machinery Handbook to find what is needed. But the difference between the two 
profiles is preventing the half nuts I had made from fully engaging. Diameters 
and lead are correct.  When I obtain the proper tap, I should be able to 
rethread my current blocks and be good to go.   BTW there is no reason these 
half nuts couldn’t be made from hard maple.

 

 

Sent from my iPad

 

Tim and Cathy Porter

1902 Dandridge St  D7

Sun City Center FL 33573

 

 

H. 813-419-4169

C. 815-861-1505






On Jan 22, 2024, at 7:04 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com <mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com>  
mailto:cdkra...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I bought a tap during the original discussion, but haven't used it yet.  Now 
I'm hafta check.

DanK

 

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:59:13 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

Looks good Bill and does look like the same company I bought from. I will try 
to look it up in my history too. But they sure worked great.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 10:03 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a 
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a=enc%25>
 =enc%

 

this is the tap I would buy it looks like the one I bought but it is a 
trapezoidal tap so it will be 30 degrees and not 29 but because your tapping

Delrin not metal there is a bit of leeway finding the exact correct one is 
almost impossible I looked for 10 years and of course you don’t know till you 
try it that it will work with a possible bad batch out there, I had to do that 
I took a chance and it worked, one last thing the recommended tapping drill

Is a little small for Delrin and one degree out so 7/16 is what I used and it 
allows for the strange cutting properties of the Delrin. But all this is just 
what I would do you all must make up your own minds here is some Delrin I 
tapped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOUW3xblB_4 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOUW3xblB_4_channel=aussiman77181> 
_channel=aussiman77181

 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of bulk...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 2

Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

I can possibly check my stock, How long of one do you need?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 11:25 AM Tim Porter  wrote:

> Got me.   Not sure where the machine came from, as it is far older than
> anyone here knows about but since we have the owners manual and stuff I am
> thinking it was purchased new.  I don’t believe anyone would have changed
> out the lead screws and I am pretty sure they have a square profile.  I
> will double check it when I go back in Wednesday.  I am going to reach out
> to Legacy to see if they can shed any light on it.   I am also going to put
> a notice on this board to see if someone had a piece of lead screw on hand.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Tim and Cathy Porter
> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
> Sun City Center FL 33573
>
>
> H. 813-419-4169
> C. 815-861-1505
>
> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:05 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> As far as I know legacy never made a square thread leadscrew I didn’t
> notice that in your pics where did that leadscrew come from ?
>
> One of the members might have one they could sell to you to make it right
> or there are places that sell it I believe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Porter
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 3:45 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>
>
>
> I took a closer look this morning while at the Woodshop and my half nuts
> were made with a tap that has trapezoid thread form, like a standard acme.
> The lead screw has square thread form, like a buttress thread.  I am going
> to consult my Machinery Handbook to find what is needed. But the difference
> between the two profiles is preventing the half nuts I had made from fully
> engaging. Diameters and lead are correct.  When I obtain the proper tap, I
> should be able to rethread my current blocks and be good to go.   BTW there
> is no reason these half nuts couldn’t be made from hard maple.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
> Tim and Cathy Porter
>
> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
>
> Sun City Center FL 33573
>
>
>
>
>
> H. 813-419-4169
>
> C. 815-861-1505
>
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2024, at 7:04 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I bought a tap during the original discussion, but haven't used it yet.
> Now I'm hafta check.
>
> DanK
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:59:13 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Looks good Bill and does look like the same company I bought from. I will
> try to look it up in my history too. But they sure worked great.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 10:03 PM  wrote:
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a=enc%
>
>
>
> this is the tap I would buy it looks like the one I bought but it is a
> trapezoidal tap so it will be 30 degrees and not 29 but because your tapping
>
> Delrin not metal there is a bit of leeway finding the exact correct one is
> almost impossible I looked for 10 years and of course you don’t know till
> you try it that it will work with a possible bad batch out there, I had to
> do that I took a chance and it worked, one last thing the recommended
> tapping drill
>
> Is a little small for Delrin and one degree out so 7/16 is what I used and
> it allows for the strange cutting properties of the Delrin. But all this is
> just what I would do you all must make up your own minds here is some
> Delrin I tapped
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOUW3xblB_4_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *bulk...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 2:05 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Split nut tap
>
>
>
> So here is what I think, 4 threads per inch is 0.25000 of an inch pitch in
> metric that’s 6.350 mm so they might have made the tap at 6mm pitch which
> is 4.23 threads per inch and that will never fit our acme lead screws.
> That’s my 2 cents worth lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *bulk...@mmnet.c

Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Tim Porter,

Did you see the tap I asked Bill find for you? That exact tap makes a
perfect split nut.
I have one, Bill has one, and so does Dan. Let us know if you'd like
someone to thread you a nut.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:45 AM Tim Porter  wrote:

> I took a closer look this morning while at the Woodshop and my half nuts
> were made with a tap that has trapezoid thread form, like a standard acme.
> The lead screw has square thread form, like a buttress thread.  I am going
> to consult my Machinery Handbook to find what is needed. But the difference
> between the two profiles is preventing the half nuts I had made from fully
> engaging. Diameters and lead are correct.  When I obtain the proper tap, I
> should be able to rethread my current blocks and be good to go.   BTW there
> is no reason these half nuts couldn’t be made from hard maple.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Tim and Cathy Porter
> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
> Sun City Center FL 33573
>
>
> H. 813-419-4169
> C. 815-861-1505
>
> On Jan 22, 2024, at 7:04 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:
>
> 
> I bought a tap during the original discussion, but haven't used it yet.
> Now I'm hafta check.
> DanK
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:59:13 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Looks good Bill and does look like the same company I bought from. I will
>> try to look it up in my history too. But they sure worked great.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 10:03 PM  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a=enc%
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> this is the tap I would buy it looks like the one I bought but it is a
>>> trapezoidal tap so it will be 30 degrees and not 29 but because your tapping
>>>
>>> Delrin not metal there is a bit of leeway finding the exact correct one
>>> is almost impossible I looked for 10 years and of course you don’t know
>>> till you try it that it will work with a possible bad batch out there, I
>>> had to do that I took a chance and it worked, one last thing the
>>> recommended tapping drill
>>>
>>> Is a little small for Delrin and one degree out so 7/16 is what I used
>>> and it allows for the strange cutting properties of the Delrin. But all
>>> this is just what I would do you all must make up your own minds here is
>>> some Delrin I tapped
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOUW3xblB_4_channel=aussiman77181
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 2:05 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* RE: Split nut tap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So here is what I think, 4 threads per inch is 0.25000 of an inch pitch
>>> in metric that’s 6.350 mm so they might have made the tap at 6mm pitch
>>> which is 4.23 threads per inch and that will never fit our acme lead
>>> screws. That’s my 2 cents worth lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 1:44 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* RE: Split nut tap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here you go curt
>>> https://www.rolledthreads.com/what-is-the-difference-between-acme-and-trapezoidal-threads
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 12:55 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Its been a while, I have two Acme screw taps (5/8-4 and One 5/8-8 tap)
>>> My first tap was a home made tap.
>>>
>>> I us

Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Porter]

Hi BillI spoke with Legacy this morning and they made their own lead screws and they were indeed square profile threads. This would make sense as the trapezoid profile would push the screw out of engagement with a load.  If I had access to a lathe I would make a thread chaser tool to rework the profile of my half nuts made with the standard acme tapAnybody got a piece of lead screw floating around?Sent from my iPhoneTim and Cathy Porter1902 Dandridge St  Apt 7Sun City Center. FL 33573815-861-1505On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:25 PM, Tim Porter  wrote:Got me.   Not sure where the machine came from, as it is far older than anyone here knows about but since we have the owners manual and stuff I am thinking it was purchased new.  I don’t believe anyone would have changed out the lead screws and I am pretty sure they have a square profile.  I will double check it when I go back in Wednesday.  I am going to reach out to Legacy to see if they can shed any light on it.   I am also going to put a notice on this board to see if someone had a piece of lead screw on hand.Sent from my iPadTim and Cathy Porter1902 Dandridge St  D7Sun City Center FL 33573H. 813-419-4169C. 815-861-1505On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:05 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:As far as I know legacy never made a square thread leadscrew I didn’t notice that in your pics where did that leadscrew come from ?One of the members might have one they could sell to you to make it right or there are places that sell it I believe  Bill  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim PorterSent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 3:45 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Split nut tap I took a closer look this morning while at the Woodshop and my half nuts were made with a tap that has trapezoid thread form, like a standard acme.  The lead screw has square thread form, like a buttress thread.  I am going to consult my Machinery Handbook to find what is needed. But the difference between the two profiles is preventing the half nuts I had made from fully engaging. Diameters and lead are correct.  When I obtain the proper tap, I should be able to rethread my current blocks and be good to go.   BTW there is no reason these half nuts couldn’t be made from hard maple.  Sent from my iPad Tim and Cathy Porter1902 Dandridge St  D7Sun City Center FL 33573  H. 813-419-4169C. 815-861-1505On Jan 22, 2024, at 7:04 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com <cdkra...@gmail.com> wrote:I bought a tap during the original discussion, but haven't used it yet.  Now I'm hafta check.DanK On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:59:13 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:Looks good Bill and does look like the same company I bought from. I will try to look it up in my history too. But they sure worked great.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 10:03 PM <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a=enc% this is the tap I would buy it looks like the one I bought but it is a trapezoidal tap so it will be 30 degrees and not 29 but because your tappingDelrin not metal there is a bit of leeway finding the exact correct one is almost impossible I looked for 10 years and of course you don’t know till you try it that it will work with a possible bad batch out there, I had to do that I took a chance and it worked, one last thing the recommended tapping drillIs a little small for Delrin and one degree out so 7/16 is what I used and it allows for the strange cutting properties of the Delrin. But all this is just what I would do you all must make up your own minds here is some Delrin I tapped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOUW3xblB_4_channel=aussiman77181  Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of bulk...@mmnet.com.auSent: Monday, January 22, 2024 2:05 PMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Split nut tap So here is what I think, 4 threads per inch is 0.25000 of an inch pitch in metric that’s 6.350 mm so they might have made the tap at 6mm pitch which is 4.23 threads per inch and that will never fit our acme lead screws. That’s my 2 cents worth lol Bill  From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of bulk...@mmnet.com.auSent: Monday, January 22, 2024 1:44 PMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Split nut tap Here you go curt https://www.rolledthreads.com/what-is-the-difference-between-acme-and-trapezoidal-threads Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:55 PMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Split nut tap Hey Bill Its been a while, I have two Acme screw taps (5/8-4 and One 5/8-8 tap) My first tap was a home made tap. I used a short piece of an Legacy Acme screw to make the tap. the other I 

Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

Yeah I thought it was you Dan but did not want to say if I was wrong lol .
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 6:04 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I bought a tap during the original discussion, but haven't used it yet.
> Now I'm hafta check.
> DanK
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:59:13 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Looks good Bill and does look like the same company I bought from. I will
>> try to look it up in my history too. But they sure worked great.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 10:03 PM  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a=enc%
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> this is the tap I would buy it looks like the one I bought but it is a
>>> trapezoidal tap so it will be 30 degrees and not 29 but because your tapping
>>>
>>> Delrin not metal there is a bit of leeway finding the exact correct one
>>> is almost impossible I looked for 10 years and of course you don’t know
>>> till you try it that it will work with a possible bad batch out there, I
>>> had to do that I took a chance and it worked, one last thing the
>>> recommended tapping drill
>>>
>>> Is a little small for Delrin and one degree out so 7/16 is what I used
>>> and it allows for the strange cutting properties of the Delrin. But all
>>> this is just what I would do you all must make up your own minds here is
>>> some Delrin I tapped
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOUW3xblB_4_channel=aussiman77181
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 2:05 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* RE: Split nut tap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So here is what I think, 4 threads per inch is 0.25000 of an inch pitch
>>> in metric that’s 6.350 mm so they might have made the tap at 6mm pitch
>>> which is 4.23 threads per inch and that will never fit our acme lead
>>> screws. That’s my 2 cents worth lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 1:44 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* RE: Split nut tap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here you go curt
>>> https://www.rolledthreads.com/what-is-the-difference-between-acme-and-trapezoidal-threads
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 12:55 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Its been a while, I have two Acme screw taps (5/8-4 and One 5/8-8 tap)
>>> My first tap was a home made tap.
>>>
>>> I used a short piece of an Legacy Acme screw to make the tap. the other
>>> I bought on the web. some years back. (*I wasn't aware there were a
>>> different thread angle. I guess I just got lucky?*)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was wondering if these home made split nuts made by Tim P. could be
>>> re-molded. or if it would be a waist of time?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *HEY. Tim P.  If you like, Send me the plastic, and I can try to cut
>>> them for you. *
>>>
>>> *I know that taps that I own fit my Legacy. If you can send me the part,
>>> I will tap it and send it back to you.  *
>>>
>>> *Send me a private E-mail at curt@yahoo.com  and I will GIVE you the
>>> mailing info.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 08:34:39 PM EST, 
>>>

Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Porter]

Got me.   Not sure where the machine came from, as it is far older than anyone here knows about but since we have the owners manual and stuff I am thinking it was purchased new.  I don’t believe anyone would have changed out the lead screws and I am pretty sure they have a square profile.  I will double check it when I go back in Wednesday.  I am going to reach out to Legacy to see if they can shed any light on it.   I am also going to put a notice on this board to see if someone had a piece of lead screw on hand.Sent from my iPadTim and Cathy Porter1902 Dandridge St  D7Sun City Center FL 33573H. 813-419-4169C. 815-861-1505On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:05 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:As far as I know legacy never made a square thread leadscrew I didn’t notice that in your pics where did that leadscrew come from ?One of the members might have one they could sell to you to make it right or there are places that sell it I believe  Bill  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim PorterSent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 3:45 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Split nut tap I took a closer look this morning while at the Woodshop and my half nuts were made with a tap that has trapezoid thread form, like a standard acme.  The lead screw has square thread form, like a buttress thread.  I am going to consult my Machinery Handbook to find what is needed. But the difference between the two profiles is preventing the half nuts I had made from fully engaging. Diameters and lead are correct.  When I obtain the proper tap, I should be able to rethread my current blocks and be good to go.   BTW there is no reason these half nuts couldn’t be made from hard maple.  Sent from my iPad Tim and Cathy Porter1902 Dandridge St  D7Sun City Center FL 33573  H. 813-419-4169C. 815-861-1505On Jan 22, 2024, at 7:04 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com <cdkra...@gmail.com> wrote:I bought a tap during the original discussion, but haven't used it yet.  Now I'm hafta check.DanK On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:59:13 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:Looks good Bill and does look like the same company I bought from. I will try to look it up in my history too. But they sure worked great.Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 10:03 PM <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a=enc% this is the tap I would buy it looks like the one I bought but it is a trapezoidal tap so it will be 30 degrees and not 29 but because your tappingDelrin not metal there is a bit of leeway finding the exact correct one is almost impossible I looked for 10 years and of course you don’t know till you try it that it will work with a possible bad batch out there, I had to do that I took a chance and it worked, one last thing the recommended tapping drillIs a little small for Delrin and one degree out so 7/16 is what I used and it allows for the strange cutting properties of the Delrin. But all this is just what I would do you all must make up your own minds here is some Delrin I tapped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOUW3xblB_4_channel=aussiman77181  Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of bulk...@mmnet.com.auSent: Monday, January 22, 2024 2:05 PMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Split nut tap So here is what I think, 4 threads per inch is 0.25000 of an inch pitch in metric that’s 6.350 mm so they might have made the tap at 6mm pitch which is 4.23 threads per inch and that will never fit our acme lead screws. That’s my 2 cents worth lol Bill  From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of bulk...@mmnet.com.auSent: Monday, January 22, 2024 1:44 PMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Split nut tap Here you go curt https://www.rolledthreads.com/what-is-the-difference-between-acme-and-trapezoidal-threads Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:55 PMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Split nut tap Hey Bill Its been a while, I have two Acme screw taps (5/8-4 and One 5/8-8 tap) My first tap was a home made tap. I used a short piece of an Legacy Acme screw to make the tap. the other I bought on the web. some years back. (I wasn't aware there were a different thread angle. I guess I just got lucky?) I was wondering if these home made split nuts made by Tim P. could be re-molded. or if it would be a waist of time? HEY. Tim P.  If you like, Send me the plastic, and I can try to cut them for you. I know that taps that I own fit my Legacy. If you can send me the part, I will tap it and send it back to you.  Send me a private E-mail at curt@yahoo.com  and I will GIVE you the mailing info. C.A.G. On Sunday, January 

RE: Split nut tap

[bulkeley]

As far as I know legacy never made a square thread leadscrew I didn’t notice 
that in your pics where did that leadscrew come from ?

One of the members might have one they could sell to you to make it right or 
there are places that sell it I believe 

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Porter
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 3:45 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Split nut tap

 

I took a closer look this morning while at the Woodshop and my half nuts were 
made with a tap that has trapezoid thread form, like a standard acme.  The lead 
screw has square thread form, like a buttress thread.  I am going to consult my 
Machinery Handbook to find what is needed. But the difference between the two 
profiles is preventing the half nuts I had made from fully engaging. Diameters 
and lead are correct.  When I obtain the proper tap, I should be able to 
rethread my current blocks and be good to go.   BTW there is no reason these 
half nuts couldn’t be made from hard maple.

 

 

Sent from my iPad

 

Tim and Cathy Porter

1902 Dandridge St  D7

Sun City Center FL 33573

 

 

H. 813-419-4169

C. 815-861-1505





On Jan 22, 2024, at 7:04 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com <mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com>  
mailto:cdkra...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I bought a tap during the original discussion, but haven't used it yet.  Now 
I'm hafta check.

DanK

 

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:59:13 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

Looks good Bill and does look like the same company I bought from. I will try 
to look it up in my history too. But they sure worked great.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 10:03 PM  wrote:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a 
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a=enc%25>
 =enc%

 

this is the tap I would buy it looks like the one I bought but it is a 
trapezoidal tap so it will be 30 degrees and not 29 but because your tapping

Delrin not metal there is a bit of leeway finding the exact correct one is 
almost impossible I looked for 10 years and of course you don’t know till you 
try it that it will work with a possible bad batch out there, I had to do that 
I took a chance and it worked, one last thing the recommended tapping drill

Is a little small for Delrin and one degree out so 7/16 is what I used and it 
allows for the strange cutting properties of the Delrin. But all this is just 
what I would do you all must make up your own minds here is some Delrin I 
tapped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOUW3xblB_4 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOUW3xblB_4_channel=aussiman77181> 
_channel=aussiman77181

 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of bulk...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 2:05 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Split nut tap

 

So here is what I think, 4 threads per inch is 0.25000 of an inch pitch in 
metric that’s 6.350 mm so they might have made the tap at 6mm pitch which is 
4.23 threads per inch and that will never fit our acme lead screws. That’s my 2 
cents worth lol

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of bulk...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 1:44 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Split nut tap

 

Here you go curt 
https://www.rolledthreads.com/what-is-the-difference-between-acme-and-trapezoidal-threads

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:55 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Split nut tap

 

Hey Bill

 

Its been a while, I have two Acme screw taps (5/8-4 and One 5/8-8 tap) My first 
tap was a home made tap. 

I used a short piece of an Legacy Acme screw to make the tap. the other I 
bought on the web. some years back. (I wasn't aware there were a different 
thread angle. I guess I just got lucky?)

 

I was wondering if these home made split nuts made by Tim P. could be 
re-molded. or if it would be a waist of time?

 

HEY. Tim P.  If you like, Send me the plastic, and I can try to cut them for 
you. 

I know that taps that I own fit my Legacy. If you can send me the part, I will 
tap it and send it back to you.  

Send me a private E-mail at curt@yahoo.com  and I will GIVE you the mailing 
info.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 08:34:39 PM EST,  wrote: 

 

 

I don’t know if I could find them again at the time I showed everybody the 
right one but I didn’t get much

Interest so I didn’t bother keeping track only you me and curt bought them if I 
remember

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:00 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Split nut 

Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Porter]

I took a closer look this morning while at the Woodshop and my half nuts were made with a tap that has trapezoid thread form, like a standard acme.  The lead screw has square thread form, like a buttress thread.  I am going to consult my Machinery Handbook to find what is needed. But the difference between the two profiles is preventing the half nuts I had made from fully engaging. Diameters and lead are correct.  When I obtain the proper tap, I should be able to rethread my current blocks and be good to go.   BTW there is no reason these half nuts couldn’t be made from hard maple.Sent from my iPadTim and Cathy Porter1902 Dandridge St  D7Sun City Center FL 33573H. 813-419-4169C. 815-861-1505On Jan 22, 2024, at 7:04 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:I bought a tap during the original discussion, but haven't used it yet.  Now I'm hafta check.DanKOn Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:59:13 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:Looks good Bill and does look like the same company I bought from. I will try to look it up in my history too. But they sure worked great.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 10:03 PM <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a=enc% this is the tap I would buy it looks like the one I bought but it is a trapezoidal tap so it will be 30 degrees and not 29 but because your tappingDelrin not metal there is a bit of leeway finding the exact correct one is almost impossible I looked for 10 years and of course you don’t know till you try it that it will work with a possible bad batch out there, I had to do that I took a chance and it worked, one last thing the recommended tapping drillIs a little small for Delrin and one degree out so 7/16 is what I used and it allows for the strange cutting properties of the Delrin. But all this is just what I would do you all must make up your own minds here is some Delrin I tapped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOUW3xblB_4_channel=aussiman77181  Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of bulk...@mmnet.com.auSent: Monday, January 22, 2024 2:05 PMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Split nut tap So here is what I think, 4 threads per inch is 0.25000 of an inch pitch in metric that’s 6.350 mm so they might have made the tap at 6mm pitch which is 4.23 threads per inch and that will never fit our acme lead screws. That’s my 2 cents worth lol Bill  From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of bulk...@mmnet.com.auSent: Monday, January 22, 2024 1:44 PMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Split nut tap Here you go curt https://www.rolledthreads.com/what-is-the-difference-between-acme-and-trapezoidal-threads Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:55 PMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Split nut tap Hey Bill Its been a while, I have two Acme screw taps (5/8-4 and One 5/8-8 tap) My first tap was a home made tap. I used a short piece of an Legacy Acme screw to make the tap. the other I bought on the web. some years back. (I wasn't aware there were a different thread angle. I guess I just got lucky?) I was wondering if these home made split nuts made by Tim P. could be re-molded. or if it would be a waist of time? HEY. Tim P.  If you like, Send me the plastic, and I can try to cut them for you. I know that taps that I own fit my Legacy. If you can send me the part, I will tap it and send it back to you.  Send me a private E-mail at curt@yahoo.com  and I will GIVE you the mailing info. C.A.G. On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 08:34:39 PM EST, <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:   I don’t know if I could find them again at the time I showed everybody the right one but I didn’t get muchInterest so I didn’t bother keeping track only you me and curt bought them if I remember Bill From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:00 PMTo: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Split nut tap Curt he simply needs a tap like ours so it matches the acme thread. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:34 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:Hello Tim Your problem doesn't sound right?Can you explain what is happening with these split nuts? Or perhaps show a photo of your set-up?  I would really like to help you. but I need to know/see the problem... Dose the split nut fit the shaft if you lay it on the acme screw?  Perhaps it was cut slightly off??? more latter. C.A.G. On Sunday, Janu

Re: Split nut tap

[cdkr...@gmail.com]

I bought a tap during the original discussion, but haven't used it yet.  
Now I'm hafta check.
DanK

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:59:13 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

> Looks good Bill and does look like the same company I bought from. I will 
> try to look it up in my history too. But they sure worked great.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 10:03 PM  wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a=enc%
>>
>>  
>>
>> this is the tap I would buy it looks like the one I bought but it is a 
>> trapezoidal tap so it will be 30 degrees and not 29 but because your tapping
>>
>> Delrin not metal there is a bit of leeway finding the exact correct one 
>> is almost impossible I looked for 10 years and of course you don’t know 
>> till you try it that it will work with a possible bad batch out there, I 
>> had to do that I took a chance and it worked, one last thing the 
>> recommended tapping drill
>>
>> Is a little small for Delrin and one degree out so 7/16 is what I used 
>> and it allows for the strange cutting properties of the Delrin. But all 
>> this is just what I would do you all must make up your own minds here is 
>> some Delrin I tapped 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOUW3xblB_4_channel=aussiman77181
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 2:05 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Split nut tap
>>
>>  
>>
>> So here is what I think, 4 threads per inch is 0.25000 of an inch pitch 
>> in metric that’s 6.350 mm so they might have made the tap at 6mm pitch 
>> which is 4.23 threads per inch and that will never fit our acme lead 
>> screws. That’s my 2 cents worth lol
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 1:44 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Split nut tap
>>
>>  
>>
>> Here you go curt 
>> https://www.rolledthreads.com/what-is-the-difference-between-acme-and-trapezoidal-threads
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 12:55 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hey Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> Its been a while, I have two Acme screw taps (5/8-4 and One 5/8-8 tap) My 
>> first tap was a home made tap. 
>>
>> I used a short piece of an Legacy Acme screw to make the tap. the other I 
>> bought on the web. some years back. (*I wasn't aware there were a 
>> different thread angle. I guess I just got lucky?*)
>>
>>  
>>
>> I was wondering if these home made split nuts made by Tim P. could be 
>> re-molded. or if it would be a waist of time?
>>
>>  
>>
>> *HEY. Tim P.  If you like, Send me the plastic, and I can try to cut them 
>> for you. *
>>
>> *I know that taps that I own fit my Legacy. If you can send me the part, 
>> I will tap it and send it back to you.  *
>>
>> *Send me a private E-mail at curt@yahoo.com  and I will GIVE you the 
>> mailing info.*
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 08:34:39 PM EST,  
>> wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> I don’t know if I could find them again at the time I showed everybody 
>> the right one but I didn’t get much
>>
>> Interest so I didn’t bother keeping track only you me and curt bought 
>> them if I remember
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 12:00 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>>
>>  
>>
>> Curt he simply needs a tap like ours so it matches the acme thread. 
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>&

Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

Looks good Bill and does look like the same company I bought from. I will
try to look it up in my history too. But they sure worked great.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 10:03 PM  wrote:

>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a=enc%
>
>
>
> this is the tap I would buy it looks like the one I bought but it is a
> trapezoidal tap so it will be 30 degrees and not 29 but because your tapping
>
> Delrin not metal there is a bit of leeway finding the exact correct one is
> almost impossible I looked for 10 years and of course you don’t know till
> you try it that it will work with a possible bad batch out there, I had to
> do that I took a chance and it worked, one last thing the recommended
> tapping drill
>
> Is a little small for Delrin and one degree out so 7/16 is what I used and
> it allows for the strange cutting properties of the Delrin. But all this is
> just what I would do you all must make up your own minds here is some
> Delrin I tapped
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOUW3xblB_4_channel=aussiman77181
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 2:05 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Split nut tap
>
>
>
> So here is what I think, 4 threads per inch is 0.25000 of an inch pitch in
> metric that’s 6.350 mm so they might have made the tap at 6mm pitch which
> is 4.23 threads per inch and that will never fit our acme lead screws.
> That’s my 2 cents worth lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 1:44 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Split nut tap
>
>
>
> Here you go curt
> https://www.rolledthreads.com/what-is-the-difference-between-acme-and-trapezoidal-threads
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 12:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>
>
>
> Hey Bill
>
>
>
> Its been a while, I have two Acme screw taps (5/8-4 and One 5/8-8 tap) My
> first tap was a home made tap.
>
> I used a short piece of an Legacy Acme screw to make the tap. the other I
> bought on the web. some years back. (*I wasn't aware there were a
> different thread angle. I guess I just got lucky?*)
>
>
>
> I was wondering if these home made split nuts made by Tim P. could be
> re-molded. or if it would be a waist of time?
>
>
>
> *HEY. Tim P.  If you like, Send me the plastic, and I can try to cut them
> for you. *
>
> *I know that taps that I own fit my Legacy. If you can send me the part, I
> will tap it and send it back to you.  *
>
> *Send me a private E-mail at curt.geo...@yahoo.com
>   and I will GIVE you the mailing info.*
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 08:34:39 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I don’t know if I could find them again at the time I showed everybody the
> right one but I didn’t get much
>
> Interest so I didn’t bother keeping track only you me and curt bought them
> if I remember
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 12:00 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>
>
>
> Curt he simply needs a tap like ours so it matches the acme thread.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:34 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Hello Tim
>
>
>
> Your problem doesn't sound right?
>
> Can you explain what is happening with these split nuts? Or perhaps show a
> photo of your set-up?
>
>
>
> I would really like to help you. but I need to know/see the problem...
>
>
>
> Dose the split nut fit the shaft if you lay it on th

Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

So if we find the same tap I have which works absolutely perfect you will
be in business. It is one impressive fit.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 9:05 PM  wrote:

> So here is what I think, 4 threads per inch is 0.25000 of an inch pitch in
> metric that’s 6.350 mm so they might have made the tap at 6mm pitch which
> is 4.23 threads per inch and that will never fit our acme lead screws.
> That’s my 2 cents worth lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 1:44 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Split nut tap
>
>
>
> Here you go curt
> https://www.rolledthreads.com/what-is-the-difference-between-acme-and-trapezoidal-threads
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 12:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>
>
>
> Hey Bill
>
>
>
> Its been a while, I have two Acme screw taps (5/8-4 and One 5/8-8 tap) My
> first tap was a home made tap.
>
> I used a short piece of an Legacy Acme screw to make the tap. the other I
> bought on the web. some years back. (*I wasn't aware there were a
> different thread angle. I guess I just got lucky?*)
>
>
>
> I was wondering if these home made split nuts made by Tim P. could be
> re-molded. or if it would be a waist of time?
>
>
>
> *HEY. Tim P.  If you like, Send me the plastic, and I can try to cut them
> for you. *
>
> *I know that taps that I own fit my Legacy. If you can send me the part, I
> will tap it and send it back to you.  *
>
> *Send me a private E-mail at curt.geo...@yahoo.com
>   and I will GIVE you the mailing info.*
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 08:34:39 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I don’t know if I could find them again at the time I showed everybody the
> right one but I didn’t get much
>
> Interest so I didn’t bother keeping track only you me and curt bought them
> if I remember
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 12:00 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>
>
>
> Curt he simply needs a tap like ours so it matches the acme thread.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:34 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Hello Tim
>
>
>
> Your problem doesn't sound right?
>
> Can you explain what is happening with these split nuts? Or perhaps show a
> photo of your set-up?
>
>
>
> I would really like to help you. but I need to know/see the problem...
>
>
>
> Dose the split nut fit the shaft if you lay it on the acme screw?  Perhaps
> it was cut slightly off???
>
>
>
> more latter.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 04:29:45 PM EST, Tim Porter <
> imatheb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Folks
>
>
>
> I had two pair of split nuts made using a standard 5/8”-4 acme tap and for
> some reason it doesn’t quite fit the lead screw.  I have checked it near
> the end of the shaft where there is no chance of wear.  It’s like the lead
> is off a few thousands of an inch or the thread width of the tap is just a
> little too big.  Driving me bonkers.  Anyone had issues with making new
> half nuts?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

yup I think so but later on someone did buy one. Thanks Bill.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 7:34 PM  wrote:

> I don’t know if I could find them again at the time I showed everybody the
> right one but I didn’t get much
>
> Interest so I didn’t bother keeping track only you me and curt bought them
> if I remember
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 12:00 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>
>
>
> Curt he simply needs a tap like ours so it matches the acme thread.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:34 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Hello Tim
>
>
>
> Your problem doesn't sound right?
>
> Can you explain what is happening with these split nuts? Or perhaps show a
> photo of your set-up?
>
>
>
> I would really like to help you. but I need to know/see the problem...
>
>
>
> Dose the split nut fit the shaft if you lay it on the acme screw?  Perhaps
> it was cut slightly off???
>
>
>
> more latter.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 04:29:45 PM EST, Tim Porter <
> imatheb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Folks
>
>
>
> I had two pair of split nuts made using a standard 5/8”-4 acme tap and for
> some reason it doesn’t quite fit the lead screw.  I have checked it near
> the end of the shaft where there is no chance of wear.  It’s like the lead
> is off a few thousands of an inch or the thread width of the tap is just a
> little too big.  Driving me bonkers.  Anyone had issues with making new
> half nuts?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
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RE: Split nut tap

[bulkeley]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a 
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a=enc%25>
 =enc%

 

this is the tap I would buy it looks like the one I bought but it is a 
trapezoidal tap so it will be 30 degrees and not 29 but because your tapping

Delrin not metal there is a bit of leeway finding the exact correct one is 
almost impossible I looked for 10 years and of course you don’t know till you 
try it that it will work with a possible bad batch out there, I had to do that 
I took a chance and it worked, one last thing the recommended tapping drill

Is a little small for Delrin and one degree out so 7/16 is what I used and it 
allows for the strange cutting properties of the Delrin. But all this is just 
what I would do you all must make up your own minds here is some Delrin I 
tapped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOUW3xblB_4 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOUW3xblB_4_channel=aussiman77181> 
_channel=aussiman77181

 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 2:05 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Split nut tap

 

So here is what I think, 4 threads per inch is 0.25000 of an inch pitch in 
metric that’s 6.350 mm so they might have made the tap at 6mm pitch which is 
4.23 threads per inch and that will never fit our acme lead screws. That’s my 2 
cents worth lol

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 1:44 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Split nut tap

 

Here you go curt 
https://www.rolledthreads.com/what-is-the-difference-between-acme-and-trapezoidal-threads

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Split nut tap

 

Hey Bill

 

Its been a while, I have two Acme screw taps (5/8-4 and One 5/8-8 tap) My first 
tap was a home made tap. 

I used a short piece of an Legacy Acme screw to make the tap. the other I 
bought on the web. some years back. (I wasn't aware there were a different 
thread angle. I guess I just got lucky?)

 

I was wondering if these home made split nuts made by Tim P. could be 
re-molded. or if it would be a waist of time?

 

HEY. Tim P.  If you like, Send me the plastic, and I can try to cut them for 
you. 

I know that taps that I own fit my Legacy. If you can send me the part, I will 
tap it and send it back to you.  

Send me a private E-mail at curt.geo...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com>   and I will GIVE you the mailing info.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 08:34:39 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

I don’t know if I could find them again at the time I showed everybody the 
right one but I didn’t get much

Interest so I didn’t bother keeping track only you me and curt bought them if I 
remember

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:00 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Split nut tap

 

Curt he simply needs a tap like ours so it matches the acme thread. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:34 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Tim

 

Your problem doesn't sound right?

Can you explain what is happening with these split nuts? Or perhaps show a 
photo of your set-up? 

 

I would really like to help you. but I need to know/see the problem...

 

Dose the split nut fit the shaft if you lay it on the acme screw?  Perhaps it 
was cut slightly off???

 

more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 04:29:45 PM EST, Tim Porter 
mailto:imatheb...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hi Folks

 

I had two pair of split nuts made using a standard 5/8”-4 acme tap and for some 
reason it doesn’t quite fit the lead screw.  I have checked it near the end of 
the shaft where there is no chance of wear.  It’s like the lead is off a few 
thousands of an inch or the thread width of the tap is just a little too big.  
Driving me bonkers.  An

RE: Split nut tap

[bulkeley]

So here is what I think, 4 threads per inch is 0.25000 of an inch pitch in 
metric that’s 6.350 mm so they might have made the tap at 6mm pitch which is 
4.23 threads per inch and that will never fit our acme lead screws. That’s my 2 
cents worth lol

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 1:44 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Split nut tap

 

Here you go curt 
https://www.rolledthreads.com/what-is-the-difference-between-acme-and-trapezoidal-threads

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Split nut tap

 

Hey Bill

 

Its been a while, I have two Acme screw taps (5/8-4 and One 5/8-8 tap) My first 
tap was a home made tap. 

I used a short piece of an Legacy Acme screw to make the tap. the other I 
bought on the web. some years back. (I wasn't aware there were a different 
thread angle. I guess I just got lucky?)

 

I was wondering if these home made split nuts made by Tim P. could be 
re-molded. or if it would be a waist of time?

 

HEY. Tim P.  If you like, Send me the plastic, and I can try to cut them for 
you. 

I know that taps that I own fit my Legacy. If you can send me the part, I will 
tap it and send it back to you.  

Send me a private E-mail at curt.geo...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com>   and I will GIVE you the mailing info.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 08:34:39 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

I don’t know if I could find them again at the time I showed everybody the 
right one but I didn’t get much

Interest so I didn’t bother keeping track only you me and curt bought them if I 
remember

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:00 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Split nut tap

 

Curt he simply needs a tap like ours so it matches the acme thread. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:34 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Tim

 

Your problem doesn't sound right?

Can you explain what is happening with these split nuts? Or perhaps show a 
photo of your set-up? 

 

I would really like to help you. but I need to know/see the problem...

 

Dose the split nut fit the shaft if you lay it on the acme screw?  Perhaps it 
was cut slightly off???

 

more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 04:29:45 PM EST, Tim Porter 
mailto:imatheb...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hi Folks

 

I had two pair of split nuts made using a standard 5/8”-4 acme tap and for some 
reason it doesn’t quite fit the lead screw.  I have checked it near the end of 
the shaft where there is no chance of wear.  It’s like the lead is off a few 
thousands of an inch or the thread width of the tap is just a little too big.  
Driving me bonkers.  Anyone had issues with making new half nuts?

 

Thanks. 

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RE: Split nut tap

[bulkeley]

Here you go curt 
https://www.rolledthreads.com/what-is-the-difference-between-acme-and-trapezoidal-threads

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Split nut tap

 

Hey Bill

 

Its been a while, I have two Acme screw taps (5/8-4 and One 5/8-8 tap) My first 
tap was a home made tap. 

I used a short piece of an Legacy Acme screw to make the tap. the other I 
bought on the web. some years back. (I wasn't aware there were a different 
thread angle. I guess I just got lucky?)

 

I was wondering if these home made split nuts made by Tim P. could be 
re-molded. or if it would be a waist of time?

 

HEY. Tim P.  If you like, Send me the plastic, and I can try to cut them for 
you. 

I know that taps that I own fit my Legacy. If you can send me the part, I will 
tap it and send it back to you.  

Send me a private E-mail at curt.geo...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com>   and I will GIVE you the mailing info.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 08:34:39 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

I don’t know if I could find them again at the time I showed everybody the 
right one but I didn’t get much

Interest so I didn’t bother keeping track only you me and curt bought them if I 
remember

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:00 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Split nut tap

 

Curt he simply needs a tap like ours so it matches the acme thread. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:34 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Tim

 

Your problem doesn't sound right?

Can you explain what is happening with these split nuts? Or perhaps show a 
photo of your set-up? 

 

I would really like to help you. but I need to know/see the problem...

 

Dose the split nut fit the shaft if you lay it on the acme screw?  Perhaps it 
was cut slightly off???

 

more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 04:29:45 PM EST, Tim Porter 
mailto:imatheb...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hi Folks

 

I had two pair of split nuts made using a standard 5/8”-4 acme tap and for some 
reason it doesn’t quite fit the lead screw.  I have checked it near the end of 
the shaft where there is no chance of wear.  It’s like the lead is off a few 
thousands of an inch or the thread width of the tap is just a little too big.  
Driving me bonkers.  Anyone had issues with making new half nuts?

 

Thanks. 

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RE: Split nut tap

[bulkeley]

It wont work curt sorry bin it and start again only a couple of threads at the 
start will be right all the rest will be loose so it will wear out quick

Knowing the Chinese they probably made the tap cutting a metric pitch instead 
of a USA threads per inch and that will make it come out wrong but unless you 
measure it properly the average person might not pick it up so there might be a 
whole batch of bad tapes out there China is not renowned for high quality 
products.

 

Bill

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Split nut tap

 

Hey Bill

 

Its been a while, I have two Acme screw taps (5/8-4 and One 5/8-8 tap) My first 
tap was a home made tap. 

I used a short piece of an Legacy Acme screw to make the tap. the other I 
bought on the web. some years back. (I wasn't aware there were a different 
thread angle. I guess I just got lucky?)

 

I was wondering if these home made split nuts made by Tim P. could be 
re-molded. or if it would be a waist of time?

 

HEY. Tim P.  If you like, Send me the plastic, and I can try to cut them for 
you. 

I know that taps that I own fit my Legacy. If you can send me the part, I will 
tap it and send it back to you.  

Send me a private E-mail at curt.geo...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com>   and I will GIVE you the mailing info.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 08:34:39 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

I don’t know if I could find them again at the time I showed everybody the 
right one but I didn’t get much

Interest so I didn’t bother keeping track only you me and curt bought them if I 
remember

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:00 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Split nut tap

 

Curt he simply needs a tap like ours so it matches the acme thread. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:34 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Tim

 

Your problem doesn't sound right?

Can you explain what is happening with these split nuts? Or perhaps show a 
photo of your set-up? 

 

I would really like to help you. but I need to know/see the problem...

 

Dose the split nut fit the shaft if you lay it on the acme screw?  Perhaps it 
was cut slightly off???

 

more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 04:29:45 PM EST, Tim Porter 
mailto:imatheb...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hi Folks

 

I had two pair of split nuts made using a standard 5/8”-4 acme tap and for some 
reason it doesn’t quite fit the lead screw.  I have checked it near the end of 
the shaft where there is no chance of wear.  It’s like the lead is off a few 
thousands of an inch or the thread width of the tap is just a little too big.  
Driving me bonkers.  Anyone had issues with making new half nuts?

 

Thanks. 

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Re: Split nut tap

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hey Bill
Its been a while, I have two Acme screw taps (5/8-4 and One 5/8-8 tap) My first 
tap was a home made tap. I used a short piece of an Legacy Acme screw to make 
the tap. the other I bought on the web. some years back. (I wasn't aware there 
were a different thread angle. I guess I just got lucky?)
I was wondering if these home made split nuts made by Tim P. could be 
re-molded. or if it would be a waist of time?
HEY. Tim P.  If you like, Send me the plastic, and I can try to cut them for 
you. I know that taps that I own fit my Legacy. If you can send me the part, I 
will tap it and send it back to you.  Send me a private E-mail at 
curt.geo...@yahoo.com  and I will GIVE you the mailing info.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 08:34:39 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
I don’t know if I could find them again at the time I showed everybody the 
right one but I didn’t get much

Interest so I didn’t bother keeping track only you me and curt bought them if I 
remember

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:00 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Split nut tap

  

Curt he simply needs a tap like ours so it matches the acme thread. 




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:34 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


Hello Tim

  

Your problem doesn't sound right?

Can you explain what is happening with these split nuts? Or perhaps show a 
photo of your set-up? 

  

I would really like to help you. but I need to know/see the problem...

  

Dose the split nut fit the shaft if you lay it on the acme screw?  Perhaps it 
was cut slightly off???

  

more latter.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 04:29:45 PM EST, Tim Porter 
 wrote: 

  

  

Hi Folks

  

I had two pair of split nuts made using a standard 5/8”-4 acme tap and for some 
reason it doesn’t quite fit the lead screw.  I have checked it near the end of 
the shaft where there is no chance of wear.  It’s like the lead is off a few 
thousands of an inch or the thread width of the tap is just a little too big.  
Driving me bonkers.  Anyone had issues with making new half nuts?

  

Thanks. 

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RE: Split nut tap

[bulkeley]

I don’t know if I could find them again at the time I showed everybody the 
right one but I didn’t get much

Interest so I didn’t bother keeping track only you me and curt bought them if I 
remember

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:00 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Split nut tap

 

Curt he simply needs a tap like ours so it matches the acme thread. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:34 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Tim

 

Your problem doesn't sound right?

Can you explain what is happening with these split nuts? Or perhaps show a 
photo of your set-up? 

 

I would really like to help you. but I need to know/see the problem...

 

Dose the split nut fit the shaft if you lay it on the acme screw?  Perhaps it 
was cut slightly off???

 

more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

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mailto:imatheb...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hi Folks

 

I had two pair of split nuts made using a standard 5/8”-4 acme tap and for some 
reason it doesn’t quite fit the lead screw.  I have checked it near the end of 
the shaft where there is no chance of wear.  It’s like the lead is off a few 
thousands of an inch or the thread width of the tap is just a little too big.  
Driving me bonkers.  Anyone had issues with making new half nuts?

 

Thanks. 

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Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

Curt he simply needs a tap like ours so it matches the acme thread.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:34 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Tim
>
> Your problem doesn't sound right?
> Can you explain what is happening with these split nuts? Or perhaps show a
> photo of your set-up?
>
> I would really like to help you. but I need to know/see the problem...
>
> Dose the split nut fit the shaft if you lay it on the acme screw?  Perhaps
> it was cut slightly off???
>
> more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 04:29:45 PM EST, Tim Porter <
> imatheb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Folks
>
> I had two pair of split nuts made using a standard 5/8”-4 acme tap and for
> some reason it doesn’t quite fit the lead screw.  I have checked it near
> the end of the shaft where there is no chance of wear.  It’s like the lead
> is off a few thousands of an inch or the thread width of the tap is just a
> little too big.  Driving me bonkers.  Anyone had issues with making new
> half nuts?
>
> Thanks.
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Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Tim Porter,

Yes those of us that have made split nuts have a special tap we ordered off
Ebay.
I hope Bill chimes in he is the one that helped me find mine. It works
Great.
It's a special pitch too. Bill you there?
Can you explain the thread per inich etc...
i,






Kind Regards,

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Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:29 PM Tim Porter  wrote:

> Hi Folks
>
> I had two pair of split nuts made using a standard 5/8”-4 acme tap and for
> some reason it doesn’t quite fit the lead screw.  I have checked it near
> the end of the shaft where there is no chance of wear.  It’s like the lead
> is off a few thousands of an inch or the thread width of the tap is just a
> little too big.  Driving me bonkers.  Anyone had issues with making new
> half nuts?
>
> Thanks.
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Re: Split nut tap

[Okla Mike (Liltwisted)]

It sounds to me as if the slit nut thread is actually able to fit over 
the lead screw as you would have intended it to do and therefore we are 
dealing with a fit that is too loose.  If the fit is too loose than 
there can only be 3 things that could be wrong.


1. The bottom, un-threaded part of the nut,  is not letting the
   threaded half rest deep enough into the thread.  To check this, set
   the threaded part onto the shaft and then slide the carriage over to
   the split nut and see if the two halves are on the same level.  Best
   scenario will be they are even.  If there is a gap left between the
   top and bottom, you have to start over.  If the overlap each other,
   it is an easy adjustment.  Sand the threaded side until they just
   barley line up and almost slide over each other.
2. When you threaded the split nut, if you used a drill to turn the tap
   and then reversed it to get it back out, you could have wiped out
   part of the threads and now you are stuck with a loose fit. 
   Instead, tap it by hand and then continue the tap through and not
   back it up.  If you want to use a drill press to make sure you are
   going straight, only go part way and finish it by hand.
3. The tap, even though it is 5/8-4 it may have a different thread
   configuration.  That would be evident in the cut itself, look at if
   there are square corners or if there is any radius relief in them.

Hope this helps.

Mike OK

On 1/21/2024 2:52 PM, Tim Porter wrote:

Hi Folks

I had two pair of split nuts made using a standard 5/8”-4 acme tap and 
for some reason it doesn’t quite fit the lead screw.  I have checked 
it near the end of the shaft where there is no chance of wear.  It’s 
like the lead is off a few thousands of an inch or the thread width of 
the tap is just a little too big.  Driving me bonkers.  Anyone had 
issues with making new half nuts?


Thanks.
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RE: Split nut tap

[bulkeley]

It could be the tap there are different 5/8 by 4 acme taps out there the angle 
of the teeth of the tap can vary a bit making

It not quite fit one is 29 degrees and the other is 30 degrees. Acme (29-degree 
angle)  threads are used much more commonly in the United States while the 
closely related trapezoidal thread form (30-degree angle) is preferred in 
Europe. 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Porter
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 7:52 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Split nut tap

 

Hi Folks

 

I had two pair of split nuts made using a standard 5/8”-4 acme tap and for some 
reason it doesn’t quite fit the lead screw.  I have checked it near the end of 
the shaft where there is no chance of wear.  It’s like the lead is off a few 
thousands of an inch or the thread width of the tap is just a little too big.  
Driving me bonkers.  Anyone had issues with making new half nuts?

 

Thanks. 

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Re: Split nut tap

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hey there Tim.
ONE question,  If you put your new split nut on the Legacy Acme screw. dose it 
fit the threads? if so then see if the plastic was cut square to your machine's 
holder. My guess is the cut is off, so it will not line up. If this is the 
case. you can re-shape with a sander to get your split nut aligned with your 
machine to make it work.
C.A.G. 
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Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
  Hello Tim
Your problem doesn't sound right?Can you explain what is happening with these 
split nuts? Or perhaps show a photo of your set-up? 
I would really like to help you. but I need to know/see the problem...
Dose the split nut fit the shaft if you lay it on the acme screw?  Perhaps it 
was cut slightly off???
more latter.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 04:29:45 PM EST, Tim Porter 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi Folks
I had two pair of split nuts made using a standard 5/8”-4 acme tap and for some 
reason it doesn’t quite fit the lead screw.  I have checked it near the end of 
the shaft where there is no chance of wear.  It’s like the lead is off a few 
thousands of an inch or the thread width of the tap is just a little too big.  
Driving me bonkers.  Anyone had issues with making new half nuts?
Thanks. 

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Re: Split nut tap

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello Tim
Your problem doesn't sound right?Can you explain what is happening with these 
split nuts? Or perhaps show a photo of your set-up? 
I would really like to help you. but I need to know/see the problem...
Dose the split nut fit the shaft if you lay it on the acme screw?  Perhaps it 
was cut slightly off???
more latter.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 04:29:45 PM EST, Tim Porter 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi Folks
I had two pair of split nuts made using a standard 5/8”-4 acme tap and for some 
reason it doesn’t quite fit the lead screw.  I have checked it near the end of 
the shaft where there is no chance of wear.  It’s like the lead is off a few 
thousands of an inch or the thread width of the tap is just a little too big.  
Driving me bonkers.  Anyone had issues with making new half nuts?
Thanks. 

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Split nut tap

[Tim Porter]

Hi Folks

I had two pair of split nuts made using a standard 5/8”-4 acme tap and for 
some reason it doesn’t quite fit the lead screw.  I have checked it near 
the end of the shaft where there is no chance of wear.  It’s like the lead 
is off a few thousands of an inch or the thread width of the tap is just a 
little too big.  Driving me bonkers.  Anyone had issues with making new 
half nuts?

Thanks. 

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Re: Legacy split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Dan, I better have my daughter spell ck for you. She is studying German
lol.
Sprechen Sie deutsch?
Daughter approved lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 8:55 AM Dan Krager  wrote:

>
> German sneaked in:  zu früh alt, zu spät klug   Truth for life.
> DanK
> On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 10:46:23 PM UTC-4 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Can I slide some German in there lol. or Minnne sotan as Mac would imply.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 5:29 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> onya Dan you sound like a fair dinkum true blue skippy lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Dan Krager
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 12 June 2022 8:00 AM
>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>> *Subject:* Re: Legacy split nut tap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good find, Tim.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wanted to bust out my new Australian language skills taught to me by my
>>> son who is exposed to how English is spoken throughout the world. Bill
>>> might be heard to say "Goo donyam ate", which is Aussie English for "good
>>> on ya mate".  LOL!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Love Australian expressions and accents!  OK, ya forced me If you
>>> hear an Aussie saying "rise up late", he's just talking about razor blades.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> DanK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 5:43:28 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>>>
>>> Good for you Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That looks to be a good tool .  The one that bought a few years back was
>>> quite a bit more then what you found your for.  My hat is off to you. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 11, 2022, 02:13:20 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
>>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well only 3 weeks from ordering a tap on E-bay they come in.
>>>
>>> very high quality machining and very well packaging.  I am impressed.
>>>
>>> thanks to Bill's find.
>>>
>>> Was around $32.20 with shipping, and that's as reasonable as you find.
>>>
>>> 5/8 X 4 tpi right hand thread.
>>>
>>>  These taps will allow you tap new Delrin Split nuts for your Legacy's.
>>>
>>> Delrin is available several different outlets and one of the guys will
>>> chime in
>>>
>>> with links to it.
>>>
>>> Not telling anyone what to do but LOM does not make anymore split nuts I
>>> think
>>>
>>> I bought the last one lol,  so I suggest you check on these to keep your
>>> LOM running
>>>
>>> accurately.
>>>
>>> check out the pix.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim J Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
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Re: Legacy split nut tap

[Dan Krager]

German sneaked in:  zu früh alt, zu spät klug   Truth for life.
DanK
On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 10:46:23 PM UTC-4 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

> Can I slide some German in there lol. or Minnne sotan as Mac would imply. 
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 5:29 PM  wrote:
>
>> onya Dan you sound like a fair dinkum true blue skippy lol
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Dan Krager
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 12 June 2022 8:00 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Re: Legacy split nut tap
>>
>>  
>>
>> Good find, Tim.  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Wanted to bust out my new Australian language skills taught to me by my 
>> son who is exposed to how English is spoken throughout the world. Bill 
>> might be heard to say "Goo donyam ate", which is Aussie English for "good 
>> on ya mate".  LOL!  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Love Australian expressions and accents!  OK, ya forced me If you 
>> hear an Aussie saying "rise up late", he's just talking about razor blades. 
>>   
>>
>>  
>>
>> DanK 
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 5:43:28 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>>
>> Good for you Tim
>>
>>  
>>
>> That looks to be a good tool .  The one that bought a few years back was 
>> quite a bit more then what you found your for.  My hat is off to you. ;-)
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Saturday, June 11, 2022, 02:13:20 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Well only 3 weeks from ordering a tap on E-bay they come in. 
>>
>> very high quality machining and very well packaging.  I am impressed.
>>
>> thanks to Bill's find. 
>>
>> Was around $32.20 with shipping, and that's as reasonable as you find. 
>>
>> 5/8 X 4 tpi right hand thread. 
>>
>>  These taps will allow you tap new Delrin Split nuts for your Legacy's. 
>>
>> Delrin is available several different outlets and one of the guys will 
>> chime in
>>
>> with links to it. 
>>
>> Not telling anyone what to do but LOM does not make anymore split nuts I 
>> think
>>
>> I bought the last one lol,  so I suggest you check on these to keep your 
>> LOM running
>>
>> accurately. 
>>
>> check out the pix. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Tim J Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
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Re: Legacy split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

Just got to keep er going Bill
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 6:02 PM  wrote:

> If you like our slang Dan cop a load of these, (means have a look at these
> songs)
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfmHPF5qoV0_channel=JohnWilliamsonTV
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf2GTDeN0Xk_channel=JohnWilliamson-Topic
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqgENQLwT1I_channel=JohnWilliamsonTV
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN7QkX3RRmU_channel=JohnWilliamson-Topic
>
>
>
> you probably wont have a clue what he is singing about
>
> but this is old Australia like when I was young we are a dying breed I’m
> afraid
>
>
>
> enjoy Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Dan Krager
> *Sent:* Sunday, 12 June 2022 8:00 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy split nut tap
>
>
>
> Good find, Tim.
>
>
>
> Wanted to bust out my new Australian language skills taught to me by my
> son who is exposed to how English is spoken throughout the world. Bill
> might be heard to say "Goo donyam ate", which is Aussie English for "good
> on ya mate".  LOL!
>
>
>
> Love Australian expressions and accents!  OK, ya forced me If you hear
> an Aussie saying "rise up late", he's just talking about razor blades.
>
>
>
> DanK
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 5:43:28 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
> Good for you Tim
>
>
>
> That looks to be a good tool .  The one that bought a few years back was
> quite a bit more then what you found your for.  My hat is off to you. ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 11, 2022, 02:13:20 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Well only 3 weeks from ordering a tap on E-bay they come in.
>
> very high quality machining and very well packaging.  I am impressed.
>
> thanks to Bill's find.
>
> Was around $32.20 with shipping, and that's as reasonable as you find.
>
> 5/8 X 4 tpi right hand thread.
>
>  These taps will allow you tap new Delrin Split nuts for your Legacy's.
>
> Delrin is available several different outlets and one of the guys will
> chime in
>
> with links to it.
>
> Not telling anyone what to do but LOM does not make anymore split nuts I
> think
>
> I bought the last one lol,  so I suggest you check on these to keep your
> LOM running
>
> accurately.
>
> check out the pix.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Tim J Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
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Re: Legacy split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

Can I slide some German in there lol. or Minnne sotan as Mac would imply.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 5:29 PM  wrote:

> onya Dan you sound like a fair dinkum true blue skippy lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Dan Krager
> *Sent:* Sunday, 12 June 2022 8:00 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy split nut tap
>
>
>
> Good find, Tim.
>
>
>
> Wanted to bust out my new Australian language skills taught to me by my
> son who is exposed to how English is spoken throughout the world. Bill
> might be heard to say "Goo donyam ate", which is Aussie English for "good
> on ya mate".  LOL!
>
>
>
> Love Australian expressions and accents!  OK, ya forced me If you hear
> an Aussie saying "rise up late", he's just talking about razor blades.
>
>
>
> DanK
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 5:43:28 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
> Good for you Tim
>
>
>
> That looks to be a good tool .  The one that bought a few years back was
> quite a bit more then what you found your for.  My hat is off to you. ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 11, 2022, 02:13:20 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Well only 3 weeks from ordering a tap on E-bay they come in.
>
> very high quality machining and very well packaging.  I am impressed.
>
> thanks to Bill's find.
>
> Was around $32.20 with shipping, and that's as reasonable as you find.
>
> 5/8 X 4 tpi right hand thread.
>
>  These taps will allow you tap new Delrin Split nuts for your Legacy's.
>
> Delrin is available several different outlets and one of the guys will
> chime in
>
> with links to it.
>
> Not telling anyone what to do but LOM does not make anymore split nuts I
> think
>
> I bought the last one lol,  so I suggest you check on these to keep your
> LOM running
>
> accurately.
>
> check out the pix.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Tim J Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
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Re: Legacy split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

Thank you Sir

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 5:10 PM  wrote:

> Well done tim
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> timjz...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, 12 June 2022 4:07 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Legacy split nut tap
>
>
>
> Well only 3 weeks from ordering a tap on E-bay they come in.
>
> very high quality machining and very well packaging.  I am impressed.
>
> thanks to Bill's find.
>
> Was around $32.20 with shipping, and that's as reasonable as you find.
>
> 5/8 X 4 tpi right hand thread.
>
>  These taps will allow you tap new Delrin Split nuts for your Legacy's.
>
> Delrin is available several different outlets and one of the guys will
> chime in
>
> with links to it.
>
> Not telling anyone what to do but LOM does not make anymore split nuts I
> think
>
> I bought the last one lol,  so I suggest you check on these to keep your
> LOM running
>
> accurately.
>
> check out the pix.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Tim J Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: Legacy split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

yeah funny Dan, lol, aye!
We have to thank Bill for the find and they only had a couple left in
stock.
Super excited to try it but have not really got any Delrin, I have some
UMHW or white self healing plastic,
I thought about trying but???
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 5:00 PM Dan Krager  wrote:

> Good find, Tim.
>
> Wanted to bust out my new Australian language skills taught to me by my
> son who is exposed to how English is spoken throughout the world. Bill
> might be heard to say "Goo donyam ate", which is Aussie English for "good
> on ya mate".  LOL!
>
> Love Australian expressions and accents!  OK, ya forced me If you hear
> an Aussie saying "rise up late", he's just talking about razor blades.
>
> DanK
>
> On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 5:43:28 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Good for you Tim
>>
>> That looks to be a good tool .  The one that bought a few years back was
>> quite a bit more then what you found your for.  My hat is off to you. ;-)
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Saturday, June 11, 2022, 02:13:20 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Well only 3 weeks from ordering a tap on E-bay they come in.
>> very high quality machining and very well packaging.  I am impressed.
>> thanks to Bill's find.
>> Was around $32.20 with shipping, and that's as reasonable as you find.
>> 5/8 X 4 tpi right hand thread.
>>  These taps will allow you tap new Delrin Split nuts for your Legacy's.
>> Delrin is available several different outlets and one of the guys will
>> chime in
>> with links to it.
>> Not telling anyone what to do but LOM does not make anymore split nuts I
>> think
>> I bought the last one lol,  so I suggest you check on these to keep your
>> LOM running
>> accurately.
>> check out the pix.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Tim J Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
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RE: Legacy split nut tap

[bulkeley]

If you like our slang Dan cop a load of these, (means have a look at these 
songs)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfmHPF5qoV0 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfmHPF5qoV0_channel=JohnWilliamsonTV> 
_channel=JohnWilliamsonTV

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf2GTDeN0Xk 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf2GTDeN0Xk_channel=JohnWilliamson-Topic> 
_channel=JohnWilliamson-Topic

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqgENQLwT1I 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqgENQLwT1I_channel=JohnWilliamsonTV> 
_channel=JohnWilliamsonTV

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN7QkX3RRmU 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN7QkX3RRmU_channel=JohnWilliamson-Topic> 
_channel=JohnWilliamson-Topic

 

you probably wont have a clue what he is singing about 

but this is old Australia like when I was young we are a dying breed I’m afraid

 

enjoy Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Dan Krager
Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2022 8:00 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Legacy split nut tap

 

Good find, Tim.  

 

Wanted to bust out my new Australian language skills taught to me by my son who 
is exposed to how English is spoken throughout the world. Bill might be heard 
to say "Goo donyam ate", which is Aussie English for "good on ya mate".  LOL!  

 

Love Australian expressions and accents!  OK, ya forced me If you hear an 
Aussie saying "rise up late", he's just talking about razor blades.   

 

DanK 

 

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 5:43:28 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Good for you Tim

 

That looks to be a good tool .  The one that bought a few years back was quite 
a bit more then what you found your for.  My hat is off to you. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, June 11, 2022, 02:13:20 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com 
<mailto:timjz...@gmail.com>  mailto:timjz...@gmail.com> > 
wrote: 

 

 

Well only 3 weeks from ordering a tap on E-bay they come in. 

very high quality machining and very well packaging.  I am impressed.

thanks to Bill's find. 

Was around $32.20 with shipping, and that's as reasonable as you find. 

5/8 X 4 tpi right hand thread. 

 These taps will allow you tap new Delrin Split nuts for your Legacy's. 

Delrin is available several different outlets and one of the guys will chime in

with links to it. 

Not telling anyone what to do but LOM does not make anymore split nuts I think

I bought the last one lol,  so I suggest you check on these to keep your LOM 
running

accurately. 

check out the pix. 

 

Kind regards,

 

Tim J Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

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RE: Legacy split nut tap

[bulkeley]

onya Dan you sound like a fair dinkum true blue skippy lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Dan Krager
Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2022 8:00 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Legacy split nut tap

 

Good find, Tim.  

 

Wanted to bust out my new Australian language skills taught to me by my son who 
is exposed to how English is spoken throughout the world. Bill might be heard 
to say "Goo donyam ate", which is Aussie English for "good on ya mate".  LOL!  

 

Love Australian expressions and accents!  OK, ya forced me If you hear an 
Aussie saying "rise up late", he's just talking about razor blades.   

 

DanK 

 

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 5:43:28 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Good for you Tim

 

That looks to be a good tool .  The one that bought a few years back was quite 
a bit more then what you found your for.  My hat is off to you. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, June 11, 2022, 02:13:20 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com 
<mailto:timjz...@gmail.com>  mailto:timjz...@gmail.com> > 
wrote: 

 

 

Well only 3 weeks from ordering a tap on E-bay they come in. 

very high quality machining and very well packaging.  I am impressed.

thanks to Bill's find. 

Was around $32.20 with shipping, and that's as reasonable as you find. 

5/8 X 4 tpi right hand thread. 

 These taps will allow you tap new Delrin Split nuts for your Legacy's. 

Delrin is available several different outlets and one of the guys will chime in

with links to it. 

Not telling anyone what to do but LOM does not make anymore split nuts I think

I bought the last one lol,  so I suggest you check on these to keep your LOM 
running

accurately. 

check out the pix. 

 

Kind regards,

 

Tim J Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

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RE: Legacy split nut tap

[bulkeley]

Well done tim

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of timjz...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2022 4:07 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Legacy split nut tap

 

Well only 3 weeks from ordering a tap on E-bay they come in. 

very high quality machining and very well packaging.  I am impressed.

thanks to Bill's find. 

Was around $32.20 with shipping, and that's as reasonable as you find. 

5/8 X 4 tpi right hand thread. 

 These taps will allow you tap new Delrin Split nuts for your Legacy's. 

Delrin is available several different outlets and one of the guys will chime in

with links to it. 

Not telling anyone what to do but LOM does not make anymore split nuts I think

I bought the last one lol,  so I suggest you check on these to keep your LOM 
running

accurately. 

check out the pix. 

 

Kind regards,

 

Tim J Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

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Re: Legacy split nut tap

[Dan Krager]

Good find, Tim.  

Wanted to bust out my new Australian language skills taught to me by my son 
who is exposed to how English is spoken throughout the world. Bill might be 
heard to say "Goo donyam ate", which is Aussie English for "good on ya 
mate".  LOL!  

Love Australian expressions and accents!  OK, ya forced me If you hear 
an Aussie saying "rise up late", he's just talking about razor blades.   

DanK 

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 5:43:28 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

> Good for you Tim
>
> That looks to be a good tool .  The one that bought a few years back was 
> quite a bit more then what you found your for.  My hat is off to you. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, June 11, 2022, 02:13:20 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Well only 3 weeks from ordering a tap on E-bay they come in. 
> very high quality machining and very well packaging.  I am impressed.
> thanks to Bill's find. 
> Was around $32.20 with shipping, and that's as reasonable as you find. 
> 5/8 X 4 tpi right hand thread. 
>  These taps will allow you tap new Delrin Split nuts for your Legacy's. 
> Delrin is available several different outlets and one of the guys will 
> chime in
> with links to it. 
> Not telling anyone what to do but LOM does not make anymore split nuts I 
> think
> I bought the last one lol,  so I suggest you check on these to keep your 
> LOM running
> accurately. 
> check out the pix. 
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Tim J Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
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Re: Legacy split nut tap

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Good for you Tim
That looks to be a good tool .  The one that bought a few years back was quite 
a bit more then what you found your for.  My hat is off to you. ;-)
C.A.G.
On Saturday, June 11, 2022, 02:13:20 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com 
 wrote:  
 
 Well only 3 weeks from ordering a tap on E-bay they come in. very high quality 
machining and very well packaging.  I am impressed.thanks to Bill's find. Was 
around $32.20 with shipping, and that's as reasonable as you find. 5/8 X 4 tpi 
right hand thread.  These taps will allow you tap new Delrin Split nuts for 
your Legacy's. Delrin is available several different outlets and one of the 
guys will chime inwith links to it. Not telling anyone what to do but LOM does 
not make anymore split nuts I thinkI bought the last one lol,  so I suggest you 
check on these to keep your LOM runningaccurately. check out the pix. 
Kind regards,
Tim J ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

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